[WISPA] Trade/Sell Redline Backhaul
Guys, we have a short link we need to bring up that is about 3 miles away. I have a Redline AN50 in stock w/ the 24 antennas. I was using this for one of our 15 mile links and it is in fantastic shape. I hate to waste it on such a short link and would rather use a set of TrangoLINK-45's Trango has these on their site for $2,495 with the integrated antennas. If someone would like to buys me a set of these in exchange for the AN50 backhaul or if someone has a set of these in stock that they would like to trade, I will be happy to do so. The backhaul is 5.8. I would really like to run 5.3 on this link and partial to Redline, Trango, and Canopy. So. $2,495 for the backhaul if someone can use it. If I don't hear from anyone on this soon, we'll go ahead and deploy it. Thanks. Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis
I have a building that wants us to perform an RF Radiation Analysis to ensure we aren'tradiating the residents. Anyone know an affordable way to do this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trade/Sell Redline Backhaul
What is the history on the Redline gear and what keys are installed? On 10/23/08, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, we have a short link we need to bring up that is about 3 miles away. I have a Redline AN50 in stock w/ the 24 antennas. I was using this for one of our 15 mile links and it is in fantastic shape. I hate to waste it on such a short link and would rather use a set of TrangoLINK-45's Trango has these on their site for $2,495 with the integrated antennas. If someone would like to buys me a set of these in exchange for the AN50 backhaul or if someone has a set of these in stock that they would like to trade, I will be happy to do so. The backhaul is 5.8. I would really like to run 5.3 on this link and partial to Redline, Trango, and Canopy. So. $2,495 for the backhaul if someone can use it. If I don't hear from anyone on this soon, we'll go ahead and deploy it. Thanks. Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis
To get someone to come out and do that won't be cheap. You might want to try and find some examples of the power levels of each type of device like microwave ovens, cordless phones, cell towers and such and show how they compare to your power levels and the maximum permissible exposure guidelines. That may be enough when you list your specs and those charts to keep you from having to pay someone to do the on site work. I remember doing zoning hearings for different cell towers over the years and our people had made presentation boards with those comparisons. I don't have any of those charts but you might find something on Google. Maximum permissible exposure guidelines should be a good search term. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Dowling Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:09 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis I have a building that wants us to perform an RF Radiation Analysis to ensure we aren'tradiating the residents. Anyone know an affordable way to do this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis
In the back of the Canopy user manual it shows what the FCC Guidelines are... for Canopy gear it has to be installed 5 inches I think away from an area people would normally be in... Find the FCC regs, then do the math to show them what the permissible limits are. I think they will be surprised Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Dowling Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:09 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis I have a building that wants us to perform an RF Radiation Analysis to ensure we aren'tradiating the residents. Anyone know an affordable way to do this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis
I would ask them what a permissible level would be, then I would give them some average levels of exposure due to cell phone and microwave oven leakage (and wireless routers, maybe) showing them to be thousands of times higher than the wisp gear. You could always put up an AP and use a spectrum analyzer to show how much weaker your signal is compared to the residents cell phone. If they cannot cite a level, then an analysis cannot be done. You can cite FCC docs on legal levels of exposure. Also emphasize that cell phone frequencies are centered around maximum biological heating frequencies. Wisp gear is much higher (unless you are using 900 of course). - Original Message - From: Paul Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis I have a building that wants us to perform an RF Radiation Analysis to ensure we aren'tradiating the residents. Anyone know an affordable way to do this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis
Well, that depends on the carrier. There's a lot of 1800 - 1900 MHz cell use out there vs. 800\900 MHz. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis I would ask them what a permissible level would be, then I would give them some average levels of exposure due to cell phone and microwave oven leakage (and wireless routers, maybe) showing them to be thousands of times higher than the wisp gear. You could always put up an AP and use a spectrum analyzer to show how much weaker your signal is compared to the residents cell phone. If they cannot cite a level, then an analysis cannot be done. You can cite FCC docs on legal levels of exposure. Also emphasize that cell phone frequencies are centered around maximum biological heating frequencies. Wisp gear is much higher (unless you are using 900 of course). - Original Message - From: Paul Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis I have a building that wants us to perform an RF Radiation Analysis to ensure we aren'tradiating the residents. Anyone know an affordable way to do this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis
I would expect the FCC having some literature on this. Maybe some sort of comparison to mobile phones? On 10/23/08, Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To get someone to come out and do that won't be cheap. You might want to try and find some examples of the power levels of each type of device like microwave ovens, cordless phones, cell towers and such and show how they compare to your power levels and the maximum permissible exposure guidelines. That may be enough when you list your specs and those charts to keep you from having to pay someone to do the on site work. I remember doing zoning hearings for different cell towers over the years and our people had made presentation boards with those comparisons. I don't have any of those charts but you might find something on Google. Maximum permissible exposure guidelines should be a good search term. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Dowling Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:09 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RF Radiation Analysis I have a building that wants us to perform an RF Radiation Analysis to ensure we aren'tradiating the residents. Anyone know an affordable way to do this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ****Plea for TV Whitespaces Comments!****
Wispa Members and List Users, Yesterday, WISPA filed our Ex Parte Comments for FCC Docket 04-186, Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands Additional Spectrum for unlicensed devices below 900 MHz and in the 3 GHz band. The submission can be found at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdfid_docume nt=6520176838 id_document=6520176838. Please review our comments first. Jack Unger, Steve Coran of Rini/Coran and the entire FCC Committee spent hours lobbying, discussing, researching and writing these comments which encourage unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces which will be opened up in Feb. 2009 due to the Digital TV transition. We owe all of these people many thanks and it is our responsibility to support their efforts by submitting our support through individual comments. While reviewing the comments on the FCC website this morning, it became apparent to me that there is stiff competition from the AV industry against this proposal. I reviewed nearly 300 comments from people all over the US in opposition to this FCC proposal. I did see several which supported the use of these bands for Wireless Broadband but we are heavily outnumbered. There are currently over 30,000 comments filed under this docket. Others see how important this is, our industry needs to understand it as well. It is my responsibility to all of the WISP operators to encourage each of you to file your comments in full support of the WISPA Ex Parte Comments or at least partial support with clarification if you oppose some part of our comments. I will be filing my comments as soon as I finish this email. This is a huge opportunity for each of us to help educate the FCC commissioners on the importance of opening up this valuable spectrum to unlicensed (light licensed) operation for wireless broadband. You can review all comments at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/websql/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.hts?ws_mode=ret rieve_list http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/websql/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.hts?ws_mode=re trieve_listid_proceeding=04-186 id_proceeding=04-186. Please go to http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload?hot_docket=1009000856|04-186|TV+White+S paces http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload?hot_docket=1009000856|04-186|TV+White+ SpacesSend=Continue Send=Continue to file your comments today. The deadline is quickly approaching with the FCC Commissioners set to publicize the rules for these bands on November 4th. It is essential that you take 5-10 minutes out of your busy schedule today or tomorrow to write and file your comments. Rick Harnish President WISPA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ****Plea for TV Whitespaces Comments!****
Rick, Thank you for emphasizing how important it is that WISPs help publicize and build support for our proposal to open up the Television White Spaces for fixed, licensed-lite access. As WISPs write or talk about our proposal it is important that they remember to mention the following points. 1. WISPA is proposing LICENSED-LITE WISP operation. This is different from unlicensed. LICENSED-LITE (like in 3650-3700 MHz band today) is LICENSED. It is NOT UNLICENSED. With LICENSED-LITE, WISPs frequency-coordinate using an FCC database. Unlicensed does not do this today. It is important for every WISP to use the term LICENSED-LITE to clarify that we are not proposing unlicensed. 2. Google/Microsoft/Intel and others are proposing pure unlicensed for everybody. This is NOT what we propose for WISP use because we propose LICENSED-LITE which is frequency-coordinated to eliminate interference between WISPs and TV broadcasters and (YES) even between WISP LICENSED-LITE operators and pure unlicensed operators. 3. Do we OPPOSE PURE UNLICENSED? NO, we do not. Our technical proposal to the FCC allows pure unlicensed (Google/Microsoft/etc.) to ALSO USE the WHITE SPACES but on a non-interfering basis with us. Our proposal suggests two power levels for pure unlicensed - 10 mW (10 milliwatts) and 500 mW (500 milliwatts). At boot-up time, unlicensed base stations with an Internet connection would obtain a clear frequency from the FCC geolocation database. They would authorize every station connected to them to use the same clear frequency. Pure unlicensed users thus would NOT INTERFERE WITH TV BROADCASTERS or WITH WISPS. What about the pure unlicensed devices WITHOUT Internet access who could not use the geolocation database to obtain a clear frequency? Our proposal limits them to 10 mW (10 milliwatts) of transmitter power. This is low enough that it is unlikely that they would cause interference to nearby television receivers or nearby WISPs. As WISPs talk up our proposal (or those parts that they agree with) I hope they will remember to: a) Use the term LICENSED-LITE. b) Use the term GEOLOCATION DATABASE to eliminates interference between TV broadcasters, LICENSED-LITE WISP operators and pure unlicensed wireless devices. c) Mention that our proposal allows pure unlicensed operators to also operate without causing interference. d) Mention that our proposal DOES NOT NEED OR USE SENSING. Sensing is the technology that the FCC has been testing to see if it can allow unlicensed devices to operate without causing interference. Sensing is not technologically mature yet and so it can not be used currently as a reliable way to prevent interference. Thank you again for your email Rick. I hope all WISPs will realize that we need their help to talk about and promote our LICENSED-LITE TV White Space proposal. Our proposal will help them survive as WISPs now and in the future. Sincerely, Jack Unger Chair - WISPA FCC Committee Rick Harnish wrote: Wispa Members and List Users, Yesterday, WISPA filed our Ex Parte Comments for FCC Docket 04-186, Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands Additional Spectrum for unlicensed devices below 900 MHz and in the 3 GHz band. The submission can be found at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdfid_document=6520176838 http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdfid_document=6520176838. Please review our comments first. Jack Unger, Steve Coran of Rini/Coran and the entire FCC Committee spent hours lobbying, discussing, researching and writing these comments which encourage unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces which will be opened up in Feb. 2009 due to the Digital TV transition. We owe all of these people many thanks and it is our responsibility to support their efforts by submitting our support through individual comments. While reviewing the comments on the FCC website this morning, it became apparent to me that there is stiff competition from the AV industry against this proposal. I reviewed nearly 300 comments from people all over the US in opposition to this FCC proposal. I did see several which supported the use of these bands for Wireless Broadband but we are heavily outnumbered. There are currently over 30,000 comments filed under this docket. Others see how important this is, our industry needs to understand it as well. It is my responsibility to all of the WISP operators to encourage each of you to file your comments in full support of the WISPA Ex Parte Comments or at least partial support with clarification if you oppose some part of our comments. I will be filing my comments as soon as I finish this email. This is a huge opportunity for each of us to help educate the FCC commissioners on the importance of opening up this valuable spectrum to unlicensed (light licensed) operation for wireless broadband. You
Re: [WISPA] [FCC Committee] ****Plea for TV Whitespaces Comments!****
As one of the active FCC committee members doing this work, I would like to point out some important things that have taken place in the last few weeks. The WISPA Licensed-Lite proposal has gained support in full or a large part by the following organizations and brought them to the table to talk with us: MSTV, - They represent ABC (and Disney), CBS, NBC (and General Electric), FOX and PBS. They also represent many of the wireless microphone users. This group has huge influence at the FCC and in congress. FiberTower Sprint T-Mobile Rural Telecommunications Group CompTel The momentum is as high as ever been for our organization. The media is going to start using the buzz word Licensed-Lite. If all WISP's could at least file comments to the FCC that say I am Joe WISP and I support the WISPA Licensed-Lite proposal that would make a big difference. We need to keep the momentum going, numbers and voices count. Not only as an industry organization, but as independent operators. PLEASE FILE COMMENTS WITH THE FCC. Time is running out before the meetings and the commissioners minds get made up. They need time to formulate their own thoughts and position on the topic. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:32 AM To: 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Motorola Canopy User Group' Cc: 'WISPA Board Members List'; 'WISPA's FCC Committee' Subject: [FCC Committee] Plea for TV Whitespaces Comments! Wispa Members and List Users, Yesterday, WISPA filed our Ex Parte Comments for FCC Docket 04-186, Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands Additional Spectrum for unlicensed devices below 900 MHz and in the 3 GHz band. The submission can be found at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdfid_documen t=6520176838. Please review our comments first. Jack Unger, Steve Coran of Rini/Coran and the entire FCC Committee spent hours lobbying, discussing, researching and writing these comments which encourage unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces which will be opened up in Feb. 2009 due to the Digital TV transition. We owe all of these people many thanks and it is our responsibility to support their efforts by submitting our support through individual comments. While reviewing the comments on the FCC website this morning, it became apparent to me that there is stiff competition from the AV industry against this proposal. I reviewed nearly 300 comments from people all over the US in opposition to this FCC proposal. I did see several which supported the use of these bands for Wireless Broadband but we are heavily outnumbered. There are currently over 30,000 comments filed under this docket. Others see how important this is, our industry needs to understand it as well. It is my responsibility to all of the WISP operators to encourage each of you to file your comments in full support of the WISPA Ex Parte Comments or at least partial support with clarification if you oppose some part of our comments. I will be filing my comments as soon as I finish this email. This is a huge opportunity for each of us to help educate the FCC commissioners on the importance of opening up this valuable spectrum to unlicensed (light licensed) operation for wireless broadband. You can review all comments at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/websql/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.hts?ws_mode=ret rieve_listid_proceeding=04-186. Please go to http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload?hot_docket=1009000856|04-186|TV+White+S pacesSend=Continue to file your comments today. The deadline is quickly approaching with the FCC Commissioners set to publicize the rules for these bands on November 4th. It is essential that you take 5-10 minutes out of your busy schedule today or tomorrow to write and file your comments. Rick Harnish President WISPA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: ****Plea for TV Whitespaces Comments!****
As you file your comments with the FCC. It is important to use LICENSED-LITE when referring to the WISPA Comments. DO NOT use unlicensed as there is a distinct difference. I incorrectly used both terms in my previous email. Please read Jack and Brian's emails as well. They have some good pointers. Thanks, Rick Harnish President WISPA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Teletronics 5.8GHz filters?
Regarding the 5.8GHz '4-pole high Q cavity filter' from Teletronics: Anyone know who stocks them? Anyone know where to get an RP-SMA connector or SMA-plug that fit them? Thanks! Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Teletronics 5.8GHz filters?
Teletronics :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: [WISPA] Teletronics 5.8GHz filters? Regarding the 5.8GHz '4-pole high Q cavity filter' from Teletronics: Anyone know who stocks them? Anyone know where to get an RP-SMA connector or SMA-plug that fit them? Thanks! Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Intorducing New WISPA Vendor Member - 3-dB Networks
Please join me in welcoming Daniel White of 3-dB Networks as a new Vendor Member of WISPA. We look forward to working with Daniel to promote 3-dB Networks through WISPA while we all work together toward building a better industry. We all thank you for your support of WISPA. Below is some information about 3-dB Networks. 3-dB Networks was formed in May of 2008 from the spin off the Value Add Reseller and consulting business of Mesa Networks. Mesa was founded in 2000 with the mission to provide high-speed Internet service in under-served markets by utilizing fixed wireless technologies. Mesa grew to become one of the largest Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISP) in the United States, operating a network of 130 towers and serving over 7,500 customers. In early 2004, Mesa began leveraging its experience to assist other service providers, government entities, and businesses in the design, implementation, and management of their broadband wireless networks. By 2007, this practice accounted for nearly 50% of Mesa's annual revenues. Mesa was recognized by Entrepreneur Magazine as one of the 150 fastest growing U.S. small businesses in 2007. In May of 2008, Mesa merged its ISP operations into that of JAB Broadband, which had already assimilated the majority of the neighboring WISP operators in Colorado and Utah. As part of the merger, Mesa spun off its VAR business so that it could be acquired by a group of Mesa's founders. Now 3d-B is even more focused on helping its customers design, build and maintain broadband wireless networks for WISP's, enterprise, and government networks. We carry many of the leading broadband wireless products in the industry including Motorola Canopy, Dragonwave, Bridgewave, Exalt, and Ruckus Wireless to name a few. Not only can we provide the products at very competitive prices, but we also have engineers with the experience and training to support those products. Our services include design and installation as well as ongoing support, maintenance and monitoring. Please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by visiting http://www.3dbnetworks.com Thanks! Daniel White Technical Sales Manager 3-dB Networks Cell: 303-709-4490Direct:303-376-3764 Fax: 303-648-6828Toll Free: 866-878-5988 AIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8105 West I-25 Frontage Road Suite #8 Frederick, Colorado 80516 www.3dbnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
Hello all Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik routers at the towers, The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for options.. Anything available? Or would I have to make my own? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
http://power.tyco.com or http://www.eltekvalere.com are standard devices we us in our DC installs. J Hodge krugercomm.com 847.961.3105 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to? Hello all Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik routers at the towers, The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for options.. Anything available? Or would I have to make my own? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
You'll need a board with dual power supplies. I believe powerrouter has a model but anything x86 with that feature works :) On 10/23/08, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik routers at the towers, The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for options.. Anything available? Or would I have to make my own? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NOC
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:35:21PM -0400, RickG wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a NOC... http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/images/media/photos/73764g2_hires.jpg Not bad but the CRT's are not impressive. I figure there should be LCD's in their place. -RickG The picture is from 1999. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spammers or not?
Butch is a vendor member. If you got an email from the list it's an ad that he paid for one way or another. That's one of the ways that WISPA earns it's money. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Paul Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spammers or not? I was pissed when Butch Evans sent his spam from the list. You click a link to unsubscribe, then they send you another e-mail to verify your unsubscription and you have to return the e-mail or click on a link. Double opt-out?!?!?! I just blocked his whole domain in our spam filter for the entire network. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Paul Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I was pissed when Butch Evans sent his spam from the list. You click a link to unsubscribe, then they send you another e-mail to verify your unsubscription and you have to return the e-mail or click on a link. Double opt-out?!?!?! I just blocked his whole domain in our spam filter for the entire network. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Spam is different from UCE (unsolicited email). But I don't normally buy from companies that send me junk mail. On the other hand, how do they get ahold of any of us these days? Tough call sometimes. Of course, they can always PAY for ads on wispa's lists. malron - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Spammers or not? Is it ethical for vendors to search for WISPs on wispdirectory.com and send unsolicited emails to the harvested email addresses? I've been getting advertisements from vendor members through my WISP email addys and aside from a web search for WISPs or this directory, I don't know how they would have gotten those email addys. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] cards
Hi, We are currently using the Compex WLM54-SAG23 cards for customer radios... however, we are having a lot of failures with the cards (due to static, etc.). Has anyone found a better card that is in the same price range? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
Why not use two power supplies, one on the dc jack and the other on the poe connection? -RickG On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik routers at the towers, The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for options.. Anything available? Or would I have to make my own? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NOC
That explains it :) On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Scott Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:35:21PM -0400, RickG wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a NOC... http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/images/media/photos/73764g2_hires.jpg Not bad but the CRT's are not impressive. I figure there should be LCD's in their place. -RickG The picture is from 1999. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
OK guys, don't LOL, I'm just a farm boy, but... Why couldn't you put two power supplies together into one plug, then if one failed the other would do full duty. Would a diode inline on both stop a possible transformer shorting the other out or draining the power from the good one? Can that work? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to? Why not use two power supplies, one on the dc jack and the other on the poe connection? -RickG On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik routers at the towers, The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for options.. Anything available? Or would I have to make my own? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
I am no electrician by any means but I think using both the DC jack and PoE, technically speaking, would freak the board's power supply out. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:33 AM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: OK guys, don't LOL, I'm just a farm boy, but... Why couldn't you put two power supplies together into one plug, then if one failed the other would do full duty. Would a diode inline on both stop a possible transformer shorting the other out or draining the power from the good one? Can that work? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to? Why not use two power supplies, one on the dc jack and the other on the poe connection? -RickG On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik routers at the towers, The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for options.. Anything available? Or would I have to make my own? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
Yes, you could do this You will need to pick the right diode for the job. But what brings this on? I've had almost no PS failures that were not part of some major damage. (lightning, power co. problem... 480V on 110V line) If you are having many PS failures, you might look at the load vs the PS rating. Don't forget the radio cards... CHUCK PROFITO wrote: OK guys, don't LOL, I'm just a farm boy, but... Why couldn't you put two power supplies together into one plug, then if one failed the other would do full duty. Would a diode inline on both stop a possible transformer shorting the other out or draining the power from the good one? Can that work? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to? Why not use two power supplies, one on the dc jack and the other on the poe connection? -RickG On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik routers at the towers, The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for options.. Anything available? Or would I have to make my own? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RTS/CTS
Hi all. I have a MiktoTik RB532A with a XR2 radio card as an AP. About 20 clients attach to this AP, some B, some G. Range varies from 1200FT to 6Miles. All clients d/l from the AP at speeds above 3Mb/s. U/l speeds vary, but cluster around 250Kb/s. This is not good. I need to improve u/l speeds. Has anyone ever reached a consensus on how to use RTS/CTS to improve u/l? Any other ideas would be helpful as well Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
