[WiX-users] Patching Base Versions
I had a question about whether a feature is supported and haven't seen any WiX documentation that really answers my question. Basically I was curious as to how patches could be installed and supersede each other based on the base used to create the patch. For example if I have Product v1.0.3 directly. I can create a patch for Product v1.0.3 using it as a base and patching to Product v1.0.4. My question is, would I be able to install a patch created using the base Product v1.0.1 which patches to Product v1.0.4, and successfully install it on Product v1.0.3. Currently this is effort is failing with a message saying the program to be upgraded may be missing or the upgrade patch may update a different version of the program. I'm not sure if this is because I have a problem with the patch or if this just isn't supported by WiX. If this is supported by WiX, what would be the best way to go about doing it? Thanks in advance, Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/Patching-Base-Versions-tp5127849p5127849.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] Patching Base Versions
I had a question about whether a feature is supported in WiX or not. I haven't seen any WiX documentation that really answers my question. Basically I was curious as to how patches could be installed and supersede each other based on the base used to create the patch. For example if I have Product v1.0.3 directly. I can create a patch for Product v1.0.3 using it as a base and patching to Product v1.0.4. My question is would I be able to install a patch created using the base Product v1.0.1 which patches to Product v1.0.4 and successfully install it on Product v1.0.3? Currently this effort is failing with a message saying the program to be upgraded may be missing or the upgrade patch may update a different version of the program. I'm not sure if this is because I have a problem with the patch or if this just isn't supported by WiX. If this is supported by WiX, what would be the best way to go about doing it? Thanks in advance, Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/Patching-Base-Versions-tp5127869p5127869.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Windows installer problems when users choose install directory.
Hey Rob, I think I know what you're referring to. The ICE57 error comes up
if you mix per machine and per user data, however this wasn't happening with
the registrykey I was setting for the unadvertised shortcuts. Thanks for
the input though!
Rob Mensching-7 wrote:
Where was the File installed? If it was to a per-machine location then
mixing in per-user stuff (like HKCU registry key) can create interesting
behaviors. Sorry, I don't remember more specifics but I know there is an
ICE
that complains about it. Maybe that will lead to a trail...
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:11 AM, XorPtr reaper4...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey! I think I was able to finally solve this issue which also related so
other issues with alternate patching not working. The reason for all the
trouble seemed to be the use of RegistryKey entries for non advertised
shortcuts in the related components. Original wix for example:
Component Id=Component1 Guid={----}
File Id=File1 Name=My File Vital=yes
Source=$(var.PATH)\Filename.exe
Shortcut Id=Shortcut1 Directory=ProductProgramMenuFolder
Name=File
Name WorkingDirectory=directoryBin
/File
RegistryKey Root=HKCU
Key=Software\Product\NamedDirectory\Uninstall
RegistryValue Value=0 Type=string KeyPath=yes /
/RegistryKey
/Component
To fix the problem I had to remove the registrykey and set the shortcut
as
advertised as follows:
Component Id=Component1 Guid={----}
File Id=File1 Name=My File Vital=yes
Source=$(var.PATH)\Filename.exe
Shortcut Id=Shortcut1 Directory=ProductProgramMenuFolder
Name=File
Name WorkingDirectory=directoryBin Advertise=yes
/File
/Component
In case anyone else out there has a similar issue, after making this
change
everything worked fine!
XorPtr wrote:
This is actually another cry for help on what's probably a related
issue
with installing a patch when users install to an alternate directory.
The
original issue was that when patching our product the patch only works
when the user installs to the default directory, if they choose their
own
the patch does not work. The result of this was due to the patched
files
installing into the default directory rather than the install
directory.
Upon further investigation the same issue also occurs when repairing
the
product if it is installed to a different directory. Removing the
product
has a similar issue in not removing the files unless they're in the
default directory. At this point I'm confident the problem goes beyond
the patch and I'm making a basic mistake with the windows installer,
but
I
have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
Thanks in advance!
Big Jim.
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Re: [WiX-users] Windows installer problems when users choose install directory.
Hey! I think I was able to finally solve this issue which also related so
other issues with alternate patching not working. The reason for all the
trouble seemed to be the use of RegistryKey entries for non advertised
shortcuts in the related components. Original wix for example:
Component Id=Component1 Guid={----}
File Id=File1 Name=My File Vital=yes
Source=$(var.PATH)\Filename.exe
Shortcut Id=Shortcut1 Directory=ProductProgramMenuFolder Name=File
Name WorkingDirectory=directoryBin
/File
RegistryKey Root=HKCU Key=Software\Product\NamedDirectory\Uninstall
RegistryValue Value=0 Type=string KeyPath=yes /
/RegistryKey
/Component
To fix the problem I had to remove the registrykey and set the shortcut as
advertised as follows:
Component Id=Component1 Guid={----}
File Id=File1 Name=My File Vital=yes
Source=$(var.PATH)\Filename.exe
Shortcut Id=Shortcut1 Directory=ProductProgramMenuFolder Name=File
Name WorkingDirectory=directoryBin Advertise=yes
/File
/Component
In case anyone else out there has a similar issue, after making this change
everything worked fine!
XorPtr wrote:
This is actually another cry for help on what's probably a related issue
with installing a patch when users install to an alternate directory. The
original issue was that when patching our product the patch only works
when the user installs to the default directory, if they choose their own
the patch does not work. The result of this was due to the patched files
installing into the default directory rather than the install directory.
Upon further investigation the same issue also occurs when repairing the
product if it is installed to a different directory. Removing the product
has a similar issue in not removing the files unless they're in the
default directory. At this point I'm confident the problem goes beyond
the patch and I'm making a basic mistake with the windows installer, but I
have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
Thanks in advance!
Big Jim.
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Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
Hey Tom, I wanted to thank you for all of your help. I actually was able to figure out the problem and get it fixed. As it turns out it was being caused by a RegistryKey entry for non advertised shortcuts. When I removed the registry key entry and set the shortcuts as advertised everything worked perfectly for repairs, uninstalls, patches, and presumably for future upgrades. The solution surprised me as it doesn't seem to be related. I was wondering if you might know what goes on behind the scenes of the mysterious Windows Installer that could explain why the shortcuts turned out to be causing my problem. Thanks in advance! Big Jim. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Sorry about that just meant any install operation after the initial install. It sounds like WIX_INSTALLDIR is not being updated to the user select install directory during patches/repair/uninstall. If the install directory is being saved in the registry or .ini file you can use the RegistrySearch or IniFileSearch element to set a property. Then you could use that property to set WIX_INSTALLDIR based on whether or not your product is installed. There's also a ComponentSearch element that may be helpful as well. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:59 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Sorry, I'm not familiar with the term maintenance mode and all that it encompasses. I can tell you that the WIX_INSTALLDIR is being defined in the actual code. When running the installer it has a default location which is preset and shows up in the dialog. When the user changes it they do it while running the installer by modifying the text which should reset the WIX_INSTALLDIR property during the installation. If this could be defined as being set/defined in maintenance mode, than yes it is for user-chosen directories. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Is WIXUI_INSTALLDIR being set/defined in maintenance mode? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:28 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Tom, I have the option for users to choose the installation directory from a custom InstallDirDlg.wxs file, basically just copied with a different name, call it MyInstallDirDlg.wxs. The user can either click a button and browse or type the location manually into an edit field. The value gets set to a property defined in my main installer .wxs file as WIXUI_INSTALLDIR. Then in a custom MyWixUI_InstallDir.wxs, I have it publish the SetTargetPath event to value [WIXUI_INSTALLDIR]. By default the directory structure is put in as follows: Directory Id=ProgramFilesFolder Directory Id='ProductFolder' Name='Product' Directory Id=PRODUCTVERSIONFOLDER Name=Version RegistryKey Root=HKCU Key=Software\IWARS\ResearchAndDevelopment\Uninstall RegistryValue Value=0 Type=string KeyPath=yes / /RegistryKey ... components below ... /Directory /Directory /Directory Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, How does the directory for the binaries and docs get set when the user chooses a non-default install directory? It sounds like this isn't happening in any maintenance operations. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:07 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Tom, I managed to get a verbose log of a good and bad uninstall (seemed the easiest place to start.) INSTALLDIR was set properly in both logs. The issue with the uninstall prevents itself with only the data files used by our application being removed. This holds true for the other issues as well, the data files don't seem to be causing a problem. The binary files and documentation for our product remain behind. In both logs their directory data is also the same, which naturally means it works fine when installed to the default directory. There isn't really any key difference between the binary files being installed and the data files. One difference being that all the binary files are being installed under a single component (which I know is a rule violation but the ruling to do it this way is happening above me). I also don't see how it could be contributing to this particular problem. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Try looking at the property dump section of a verbose log and compare the directory table entry values between a good default install and a bad patch/repair/uninstall. INSTALLDIR is has been an issue for me in the past. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
That's an interesting idea, I assumed that the windows installer more or less kept track of an original install for repairs, uninstalls, patches, and upgrades which may have been the error in my approach. My installer does not contain a registry key for an installation path. Although I can easily add a registry key to do this I'm not sure how I would make use of it for uninstalls, repairs, and patches though, chiefly how to make them look for that registry key and update their working directory based on it. Do you have any idea how this might be done or perhaps a link to some online resources. I've been searching google to see about how to do this and haven't had much luck so far. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Sorry about that just meant any install operation after the initial install. It sounds like WIX_INSTALLDIR is not being updated to the user select install directory during patches/repair/uninstall. If the install directory is being saved in the registry or .ini file you can use the RegistrySearch or IniFileSearch element to set a property. Then you could use that property to set WIX_INSTALLDIR based on whether or not your product is installed. There's also a ComponentSearch element that may be helpful as well. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:59 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Sorry, I'm not familiar with the term maintenance mode and all that it encompasses. I can tell you that the WIX_INSTALLDIR is being defined in the actual code. When running the installer it has a default location which is preset and shows up in the dialog. When the user changes it they do it while running the installer by modifying the text which should reset the WIX_INSTALLDIR property during the installation. If this could be defined as being set/defined in maintenance mode, than yes it is for user-chosen directories. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Is WIXUI_INSTALLDIR being set/defined in maintenance mode? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:28 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Tom, I have the option for users to choose the installation directory from a custom InstallDirDlg.wxs file, basically just copied with a different name, call it MyInstallDirDlg.wxs. The user can either click a button and browse or type the location manually into an edit field. The value gets set to a property defined in my main installer .wxs file as WIXUI_INSTALLDIR. Then in a custom MyWixUI_InstallDir.wxs, I have it publish the SetTargetPath event to value [WIXUI_INSTALLDIR]. By default the directory structure is put in as follows: Directory Id=ProgramFilesFolder Directory Id='ProductFolder' Name='Product' Directory Id=PRODUCTVERSIONFOLDER Name=Version RegistryKey Root=HKCU Key=Software\IWARS\ResearchAndDevelopment\Uninstall RegistryValue Value=0 Type=string KeyPath=yes / /RegistryKey ... components below ... /Directory /Directory /Directory Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, How does the directory for the binaries and docs get set when the user chooses a non-default install directory? It sounds like this isn't happening in any maintenance operations. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:07 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Tom, I managed to get a verbose log of a good and bad uninstall (seemed the easiest place to start.) INSTALLDIR was set properly in both logs. The issue with the uninstall prevents itself with only the data files used by our application being removed. This holds true for the other issues as well, the data files don't seem to be causing a problem. The binary files and documentation for our product remain behind. In both logs their directory data is also the same, which naturally means it works fine when installed to the default directory. There isn't really any key difference between the binary files being installed and the data files. One difference being that all the binary files are being installed under a single component (which I know is a rule violation but the ruling to do it this way is happening above me). I also don't see how it could be contributing to this particular problem. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Try looking at the property dump section of a verbose log and compare the directory table entry values between a good default install and a bad patch/repair/uninstall. INSTALLDIR is has been an issue for me in the past. Thanks
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
Hey Tom, I have the option for users to choose the installation directory from a custom InstallDirDlg.wxs file, basically just copied with a different name, call it MyInstallDirDlg.wxs. The user can either click a button and browse or type the location manually into an edit field. The value gets set to a property defined in my main installer .wxs file as WIXUI_INSTALLDIR. Then in a custom MyWixUI_InstallDir.wxs, I have it publish the SetTargetPath event to value [WIXUI_INSTALLDIR]. By default the directory structure is put in as follows: Directory Id=ProgramFilesFolder Directory Id='ProductFolder' Name='Product' Directory Id=PRODUCTVERSIONFOLDER Name=Version RegistryKey Root=HKCU Key=Software\IWARS\ResearchAndDevelopment\Uninstall RegistryValue Value=0 Type=string KeyPath=yes / /RegistryKey ... components below ... /Directory /Directory /Directory Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, How does the directory for the binaries and docs get set when the user chooses a non-default install directory? It sounds like this isn't happening in any maintenance operations. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:07 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Tom, I managed to get a verbose log of a good and bad uninstall (seemed the easiest place to start.) INSTALLDIR was set properly in both logs. The issue with the uninstall prevents itself with only the data files used by our application being removed. This holds true for the other issues as well, the data files don't seem to be causing a problem. The binary files and documentation for our product remain behind. In both logs their directory data is also the same, which naturally means it works fine when installed to the default directory. There isn't really any key difference between the binary files being installed and the data files. One difference being that all the binary files are being installed under a single component (which I know is a rule violation but the ruling to do it this way is happening above me). I also don't see how it could be contributing to this particular problem. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Try looking at the property dump section of a verbose log and compare the directory table entry values between a good default install and a bad patch/repair/uninstall. INSTALLDIR is has been an issue for me in the past. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:50 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Thanks for the tip Tom, I'm looking into at least one discrepency that I saw come up after the Orca/patch transform. I'm not sure if it's causing this error or not but chances are it would have caused problems down the road. The second issue you mentioned I was curious about as well. Do you know of anything that could cause a property to be set by the UI and not by repair and uninstall? I could see this happening with registry key entries which shouldn't be the case in my installer, but could you help me to understand what to look for with troublesome UI properties as well? Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, You just open the msi with Orca then choose Transform-View Patch and navigate to the msp and select OK and you'll see the changes in Orca. Since repairs and uninstalls are showing the problem it sounds like some property is getting set by the UI that isn't being re-set during patch/repair/uninstall. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:59 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I definitely reviewed the tables for both my installer msi as well as my patch msp while trying to figure out this problem. I've never heard of applying a patch using orca before though, I took at look but didn't see an obvious way of doing this. Could you let me know how to use orca to apply the patch? Also the issue extends beyond patching to include repairs and uninstalls so I think the problem runs deeper than just how the patch is applied. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, You may have already tried this but sometimes opening the msi and applying the patch with Orca can point out things that are buried in a verbose log like removing a component from a feature during a patch etc. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:00 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories All of the components
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the term maintenance mode and all that it encompasses. I can tell you that the WIX_INSTALLDIR is being defined in the actual code. When running the installer it has a default location which is preset and shows up in the dialog. When the user changes it they do it while running the installer by modifying the text which should reset the WIX_INSTALLDIR property during the installation. If this could be defined as being set/defined in maintenance mode, than yes it is for user-chosen directories. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Is WIXUI_INSTALLDIR being set/defined in maintenance mode? Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:28 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Tom, I have the option for users to choose the installation directory from a custom InstallDirDlg.wxs file, basically just copied with a different name, call it MyInstallDirDlg.wxs. The user can either click a button and browse or type the location manually into an edit field. The value gets set to a property defined in my main installer .wxs file as WIXUI_INSTALLDIR. Then in a custom MyWixUI_InstallDir.wxs, I have it publish the SetTargetPath event to value [WIXUI_INSTALLDIR]. By default the directory structure is put in as follows: Directory Id=ProgramFilesFolder Directory Id='ProductFolder' Name='Product' Directory Id=PRODUCTVERSIONFOLDER Name=Version RegistryKey Root=HKCU Key=Software\IWARS\ResearchAndDevelopment\Uninstall RegistryValue Value=0 Type=string KeyPath=yes / /RegistryKey ... components below ... /Directory /Directory /Directory Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, How does the directory for the binaries and docs get set when the user chooses a non-default install directory? It sounds like this isn't happening in any maintenance operations. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:07 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Tom, I managed to get a verbose log of a good and bad uninstall (seemed the easiest place to start.) INSTALLDIR was set properly in both logs. The issue with the uninstall prevents itself with only the data files used by our application being removed. This holds true for the other issues as well, the data files don't seem to be causing a problem. The binary files and documentation for our product remain behind. In both logs their directory data is also the same, which naturally means it works fine when installed to the default directory. There isn't really any key difference between the binary files being installed and the data files. One difference being that all the binary files are being installed under a single component (which I know is a rule violation but the ruling to do it this way is happening above me). I also don't see how it could be contributing to this particular problem. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, Try looking at the property dump section of a verbose log and compare the directory table entry values between a good default install and a bad patch/repair/uninstall. INSTALLDIR is has been an issue for me in the past. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:50 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Thanks for the tip Tom, I'm looking into at least one discrepency that I saw come up after the Orca/patch transform. I'm not sure if it's causing this error or not but chances are it would have caused problems down the road. The second issue you mentioned I was curious about as well. Do you know of anything that could cause a property to be set by the UI and not by repair and uninstall? I could see this happening with registry key entries which shouldn't be the case in my installer, but could you help me to understand what to look for with troublesome UI properties as well? Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, You just open the msi with Orca then choose Transform-View Patch and navigate to the msp and select OK and you'll see the changes in Orca. Since repairs and uninstalls are showing the problem it sounds like some property is getting set by the UI that isn't being re-set during patch/repair/uninstall. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:59 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I definitely reviewed the tables for both my installer msi as well as my patch msp
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
Hey Blair-2, I'd be happy to share a log of the installation but unfortunately I'm doing this for a company and I'm not allowed to post the information for a log. I've studied the logs myself during patching and it looks like it doesn't recognize that the install path is different from C:\Program Files\Appname\etc. What it ends up outputting is a list of the files being installed by the patch but each one specifies To be installed; Won't patch; No existing file. If you're interested in a particular portion of the log file I might be able to show you by replacing the product and path information with fictional data so you could see what might be the problem without my violating my company's policies. Thank for all your help so far! Blair-2 wrote: The location that the components you are patching are already installed. Could you share a log that shows it not working in that circumstance? -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories When you refer to the currently installed location, are you referring to the location that my product installs to by default or the location selected by the user. If the latter, then the patch should be installing to that location. Blair-2 wrote: Are your patches MSP files performing either small updates or minor upgrades? If so, the patch application won't let you patch anywhere other than the currently installed location since the keypath of the components can't be changed without a major upgrade. -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:12 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I've been having an issue with my WiX patch which I haven't been able to find any information for. The company I work for wants to give users the freedom to install our product in a directory of their choice. We've given the installer a default directory which can be changed at install time by the user. This has worked fine up until attempting to patch the package. I successfully made a patch which patches the package without problem if it's installed to the default location, however if users choose to install the product in an alternate location and then patch the patch fails because it's still trying to change files on the default location. Any ideas on how I can dynamically set up the patch install location based on where the user installs our product? Thanks in advance. Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p 4102386.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p 4142265.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p4145621.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
All of the components are listed as: Installed: Local; Request: Local; Action: Local. Blair-2 wrote: What does the log say about the component statuses? -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:27 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Blair-2, I'd be happy to share a log of the installation but unfortunately I'm doing this for a company and I'm not allowed to post the information for a log. I've studied the logs myself during patching and it looks like it doesn't recognize that the install path is different from C:\Program Files\Appname\etc. What it ends up outputting is a list of the files being installed by the patch but each one specifies To be installed; Won't patch; No existing file. If you're interested in a particular portion of the log file I might be able to show you by replacing the product and path information with fictional data so you could see what might be the problem without my violating my company's policies. Thank for all your help so far! Blair-2 wrote: The location that the components you are patching are already installed. Could you share a log that shows it not working in that circumstance? -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories When you refer to the currently installed location, are you referring to the location that my product installs to by default or the location selected by the user. If the latter, then the patch should be installing to that location. Blair-2 wrote: Are your patches MSP files performing either small updates or minor upgrades? If so, the patch application won't let you patch anywhere other than the currently installed location since the keypath of the components can't be changed without a major upgrade. -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:12 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I've been having an issue with my WiX patch which I haven't been able to find any information for. The company I work for wants to give users the freedom to install our product in a directory of their choice. We've given the installer a default directory which can be changed at install time by the user. This has worked fine up until attempting to patch the package. I successfully made a patch which patches the package without problem if it's installed to the default location, however if users choose to install the product in an alternate location and then patch the patch fails because it's still trying to change files on the default location. Any ideas on how I can dynamically set up the patch install location based on where the user installs our product? Thanks in advance. Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p 4102386.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p 4142265.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
I definitely reviewed the tables for both my installer msi as well as my patch msp while trying to figure out this problem. I've never heard of applying a patch using orca before though, I took at look but didn't see an obvious way of doing this. Could you let me know how to use orca to apply the patch? Also the issue extends beyond patching to include repairs and uninstalls so I think the problem runs deeper than just how the patch is applied. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, You may have already tried this but sometimes opening the msi and applying the patch with Orca can point out things that are buried in a verbose log like removing a component from a feature during a patch etc. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:00 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories All of the components are listed as: Installed: Local; Request: Local; Action: Local. Blair-2 wrote: What does the log say about the component statuses? -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:27 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Blair-2, I'd be happy to share a log of the installation but unfortunately I'm doing this for a company and I'm not allowed to post the information for a log. I've studied the logs myself during patching and it looks like it doesn't recognize that the install path is different from C:\Program Files\Appname\etc. What it ends up outputting is a list of the files being installed by the patch but each one specifies To be installed; Won't patch; No existing file. If you're interested in a particular portion of the log file I might be able to show you by replacing the product and path information with fictional data so you could see what might be the problem without my violating my company's policies. Thank for all your help so far! Blair-2 wrote: The location that the components you are patching are already installed. Could you share a log that shows it not working in that circumstance? -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories When you refer to the currently installed location, are you referring to the location that my product installs to by default or the location selected by the user. If the latter, then the patch should be installing to that location. Blair-2 wrote: Are your patches MSP files performing either small updates or minor upgrades? If so, the patch application won't let you patch anywhere other than the currently installed location since the keypath of the components can't be changed without a major upgrade. -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:12 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I've been having an issue with my WiX patch which I haven't been able to find any information for. The company I work for wants to give users the freedom to install our product in a directory of their choice. We've given the installer a default directory which can be changed at install time by the user. This has worked fine up until attempting to patch the package. I successfully made a patch which patches the package without problem if it's installed to the default location, however if users choose to install the product in an alternate location and then patch the patch fails because it's still trying to change files on the default location. Any ideas on how I can dynamically set up the patch install location based on where the user installs our product? Thanks in advance. Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102 386p 4102386.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
Thanks for the tip Tom, I'm looking into at least one discrepency that I saw come up after the Orca/patch transform. I'm not sure if it's causing this error or not but chances are it would have caused problems down the road. The second issue you mentioned I was curious about as well. Do you know of anything that could cause a property to be set by the UI and not by repair and uninstall? I could see this happening with registry key entries which shouldn't be the case in my installer, but could you help me to understand what to look for with troublesome UI properties as well? Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, You just open the msi with Orca then choose Transform-View Patch and navigate to the msp and select OK and you'll see the changes in Orca. Since repairs and uninstalls are showing the problem it sounds like some property is getting set by the UI that isn't being re-set during patch/repair/uninstall. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:59 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I definitely reviewed the tables for both my installer msi as well as my patch msp while trying to figure out this problem. I've never heard of applying a patch using orca before though, I took at look but didn't see an obvious way of doing this. Could you let me know how to use orca to apply the patch? Also the issue extends beyond patching to include repairs and uninstalls so I think the problem runs deeper than just how the patch is applied. Thomas Svare wrote: Hello, You may have already tried this but sometimes opening the msi and applying the patch with Orca can point out things that are buried in a verbose log like removing a component from a feature during a patch etc. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:00 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories All of the components are listed as: Installed: Local; Request: Local; Action: Local. Blair-2 wrote: What does the log say about the component statuses? -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:27 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories Hey Blair-2, I'd be happy to share a log of the installation but unfortunately I'm doing this for a company and I'm not allowed to post the information for a log. I've studied the logs myself during patching and it looks like it doesn't recognize that the install path is different from C:\Program Files\Appname\etc. What it ends up outputting is a list of the files being installed by the patch but each one specifies To be installed; Won't patch; No existing file. If you're interested in a particular portion of the log file I might be able to show you by replacing the product and path information with fictional data so you could see what might be the problem without my violating my company's policies. Thank for all your help so far! Blair-2 wrote: The location that the components you are patching are already installed. Could you share a log that shows it not working in that circumstance? -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories When you refer to the currently installed location, are you referring to the location that my product installs to by default or the location selected by the user. If the latter, then the patch should be installing to that location. Blair-2 wrote: Are your patches MSP files performing either small updates or minor upgrades? If so, the patch application won't let you patch anywhere other than the currently installed location since the keypath of the components can't be changed without a major upgrade. -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:12 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I've been having an issue with my WiX patch which I haven't been able to find any information for. The company I work for wants to give users the freedom to install our product in a directory of their choice. We've given the installer a default directory which can be changed at install time by the user. This has worked fine up until attempting to patch the package. I successfully made a patch which patches the package without problem if it's installed to the default location, however if users choose to install
[WiX-users] Windows installer problems when users choose install directory.
This is actually another cry for help on what's probably a related issue with installing a patch when users install to an alternate directory. The original issue was that when patching our product the patch only works when the user installs to the default directory, if they choose their own the patch does not work. The result of this was due to the patched files installing into the default directory rather than the install directory. Upon further investigation the same issue also occurs when repairing the product if it is installed to a different directory. Removing the product has a similar issue in not removing the files unless they're in the default directory. At this point I'm confident the problem goes beyond the patch and I'm making a basic mistake with the windows installer, but I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Thanks in advance! Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Windows-installer-problems-when-users-choose-install-directory-tp4141782p4141782.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
When you refer to the currently installed location, are you referring to the location that my product installs to by default or the location selected by the user. If the latter, then the patch should be installing to that location. Blair-2 wrote: Are your patches MSP files performing either small updates or minor upgrades? If so, the patch application won't let you patch anywhere other than the currently installed location since the keypath of the components can't be changed without a major upgrade. -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:12 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I've been having an issue with my WiX patch which I haven't been able to find any information for. The company I work for wants to give users the freedom to install our product in a directory of their choice. We've given the installer a default directory which can be changed at install time by the user. This has worked fine up until attempting to patch the package. I successfully made a patch which patches the package without problem if it's installed to the default location, however if users choose to install the product in an alternate location and then patch the patch fails because it's still trying to change files on the default location. Any ideas on how I can dynamically set up the patch install location based on where the user installs our product? Thanks in advance. Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p 4102386.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p4142265.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
My MSP files are performing small hotfix updates to correct a couple of bugs. Thanks for informing me about that restriction. Is there a workaround you can think of because I'm pretty much stumped on this one. Blair-2 wrote: Are your patches MSP files performing either small updates or minor upgrades? If so, the patch application won't let you patch anywhere other than the currently installed location since the keypath of the components can't be changed without a major upgrade. -Original Message- From: XorPtr [mailto:reaper4...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:12 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories I've been having an issue with my WiX patch which I haven't been able to find any information for. The company I work for wants to give users the freedom to install our product in a directory of their choice. We've given the installer a default directory which can be changed at install time by the user. This has worked fine up until attempting to patch the package. I successfully made a patch which patches the package without problem if it's installed to the default location, however if users choose to install the product in an alternate location and then patch the patch fails because it's still trying to change files on the default location. Any ideas on how I can dynamically set up the patch install location based on where the user installs our product? Thanks in advance. Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p 4102386.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p4106619.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] Patching problems with alternate directories
I've been having an issue with my WiX patch which I haven't been able to find any information for. The company I work for wants to give users the freedom to install our product in a directory of their choice. We've given the installer a default directory which can be changed at install time by the user. This has worked fine up until attempting to patch the package. I successfully made a patch which patches the package without problem if it's installed to the default location, however if users choose to install the product in an alternate location and then patch the patch fails because it's still trying to change files on the default location. Any ideas on how I can dynamically set up the patch install location based on where the user installs our product? Thanks in advance. Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Patching-problems-with-alternate-directories-tp4102386p4102386.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Uninstalling patch removes application files.
I ended up figuring this out on my own, it looks like the installer became corrupted somehow so rebuilding the patch from scratch corrected the issue. Not sure what caused the corruption though. Big Jim. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Uninstalling-patch-removes-application-files-tp4058882p4102402.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
