Re: [wp-testers] Suggestion for 3.0
+1, as they say. Same for the header image - would be nice to be able to select images you have already uploaded. Might be more of a plugin than core thing, though. -- Les Bessant l...@lcb.me.uk Losing it[1] - http://losingit.me.uk/ My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 10 May 2010, at 22:35, Carol Carneiro wrote: Hello I am relatively new to WP and I already love it. Today I've downloaded 3.0 beta to try the default theme and found this out: - when I go to the new Appearance-Background page, I can upload an image to be part of the background. I did that many times to try different backgrounds - I noticed that every time I upload an image, it goes to my media collection, which is good - when I was done choosing the best background for me, I noticed that there's no option to grab an image that is already in the Media collection. This in my opinion is not nice, cause I have to upload the file again. - what it worse is that when I upload the file again, it uploads also to the Media collection again, with another name. So, here's a suggestion to have the Appearance-Background section offer a way to grab an image that is already in the Media collection. Thanks Carol Carneiro ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Menu editing - page not fully loading
Time to delurk again. I've been working with the Alpha on a couple of test sites. One is a small one with just a couple of posts, on my standard web hosting, the other is a copy of my live site (over 4,000 posts), running on MAMP. On rev 13845, the menu editing page works fine on the small site, but fails to complete loading on the larger one. It stops rendering after the Add custom links box - no page footer, and the Page Options link doesn't work. I've looked at the source of the rendered pages, which was, err, interesting. In the (hidden) div for Add an Existing Post, it appears to be loading not just post titles (which could lead to a moderately large page), but the whole content of the post, which will rapidly lead to an insanely large page (the working site comes to over 300kb, the non-working one dies without rendering the DIV in question. Seems to be affecting a number of people: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/379231 -- Les Bessant l...@lcb.me.uk ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Hook for editing posts / pages AND text Widgets
Yup, me too. Don't know how I'd missed it before. Blogged and tweeted, so, h, at least three people will have read about it ;-) -- Les Bessant l...@lcb.me.uk Losing it[1] - http://losingit.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 26 May 2009, at 06:53, Tim and Farah Jones wrote: Thanks for pointing it out, Dan, I probably never would have known about it otherwise; and thanks Scribu for writing it, I love that plugin! On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Dan Milward d...@instinct.co.nz wrote: Done last night: http://www.instinct.co.nz/front-end-editor/ I also tweeted about it and got quite a positive response. d On 26/5/09 12:59 AM, scribu wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Dan Milwardd...@instinct.co.nz wrote: Haha!!! I'm starting to wonder if you're marketing it correctly to us plebs on the other side of the world. I'm going to make a blog post about it now - it's my way of contributing :P Also we're about to make an Encyclopaedia type site using your Plugin coupled with WP Wiki... sorry Media Wiki but you loose ;P Looking forward to reading it. :) The guys behind WP Wiki were also trying to make their plugin compatible with Front-end Editor. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] And we're gold...
Marvellous. Great work by the devs, painlessly upgraded from RC2. Love the new interface (so much so that I took the unprecedented step of upgrading my live site when RC1 was released) -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://losingit.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 10 Dec 2008, at 23:32, Kim Parsell wrote: As of changeset 10186, WordPress 2.7 has been tagged and is now an official release. http://trac.wordpress.org/changeset/10186 Kim ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Error with media.php
I've been getting the same on the Crazy Horse branch... -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://losingit.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:43:53 +0100, Rob Sked [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've just downloaded the lastest SVN copy of Wordpress, and when I get to my dashboard, I'm getting the following error: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_SL in /nfs/c02/h03/mnt/30625/domains/skeddy.net/html/wp-admin/includes/media.php on line 70 The rest of the site (from a users point of view) works fine. Rob http://skeddy.net ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers -- ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Cross-references Plugin needs testing
Installed and working. I'll play some more over the next week or so, and I'll let you know if I find any problems. -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 19 Jul 2008, at 18:04, Francesc Hervada-Sala wrote: Hello all, I've just uploaded to the plugin repository a new beta version of my plugin Cross references, which allows you to refer to other postings/pages on your blog and get a list of related posts at the end of each post and page. In these new release you can refer to posts by slug or by ID and there are some new tools such as a table rebuild and a complete deinstall. It would be great if someone would test it! http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/cross-references-plugin.1.3-beta2.zip Best regards, Francesc ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Publish date does nothing
Just tested, and it worked for me - I set a post's date and time to the previous day, saved it, and the change worked as expected. -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 30 Mar 2008, at 14:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to report this a couple times since RC1 but my emails never reached the tester list, so here we go again. In 2.5 I can't get the published date to change at all. Once the post has been published clicking edit on the date, changing it and then hitting save keeps the old publish date/time. This feature does not work for me at all. Can someone reproduce? - Josh ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Publish date does nothing
Confirmed. Editing minutes only then clicking Save has no effect on saved timestamp. -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 30 Mar 2008, at 16:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok i just tested some more, changing day works, changing hour works, changing just the minute does not. Can someone else test trying to change just the minutes. Just tested, and it worked for me - I set a post's date and time to the previous day, saved it, and the change worked as expected. -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 30 Mar 2008, at 14:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to report this a couple times since RC1 but my emails never reached the tester list, so here we go again. In 2.5 I can't get the published date to change at all. Once the post has been published clicking edit on the date, changing it and then hitting save keeps the old publish date/time. This feature does not work for me at all. Can someone reproduce? - Josh ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] broken link at wordpress.org home page
It seems to be back now -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 29 Mar 2008, at 16:52, Francesc Hervada-Sala wrote: Hi, at the home page there is a cite from de development blog From the Blog WorwPress 2.5 WordPress 2.5, the culmination of six months of work by the WordPress community, people just like you. The improvements in 2.5 are numerous, and almost entirely a result of your feedback: multi-file uploading, one- click plugin upgrades, built-in galleries, customizable dashboard […] This title link is broken, there is not such a post right now at the dev blog. Regards -- Francesc Username: hervada ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] AW: Write Page
On 28 Mar 2008, at 03:34, Matt Mullenweg wrote: Matt Moore wrote: The new way is terrible. Every single post has a category or a tag, and putting the input for them off the screen makes for too many posts in 'uncategorized.' I'm going to buy you one of those little new-fangled mouses with the wheels in the middle. That kind of response isn't going to help convince people It's been argued by several people that having to scroll down where they didn't before is a reduction in usability. These points, when made clearly and politely, have been largely ignored. I'm not really surprised that people are now becoming frustrated and describing the new write page layout as terrible. Most of the other UI changes are just different - it's too early to describe them as better or worse, but the considered opinion of people who make a lot of posts is that removing most of the useful functions from the sidebar and putting them below the fold[1] is a step backward. [1] I'm really surprised about Happy Cog being in any way responsible for this - Zeldman has always seemed to have much more useful ideas... Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Center
On 28 Mar 2008, at 13:15, Mark Styles wrote: That's a very good point. I maintain a blog for a local club, the members of which are not technologically savvy. They stay quiet most of the time, but when I approach people and ask for feedback on the site, the biggest complaint I've had is that the Write Post page is too busy, or too complicated. I have a feeling when those users see the 2.5 interface they will be much happier. This new version is pandering to the average joe user who just wants to write stuff to the detriment of geeks like us, but sometimes we have to take a back seat. Or better, make the page configurable. Or have a basic page and an advanced page. There is no need to make software harder to use for people who know what they are doing so that beginners/novices/whatever can be less confused. Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] AW: Write Page
On 28 Mar 2008, at 13:16, Charles E. Frees-Melvin wrote: I have posted a suggestion on trac, that might be a middle ground for 2.6. http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/6433 Yup. Something along those lines would be good. Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] AW: Write Page
On 28 Mar 2008, at 15:01, Matt Mullenweg wrote: Les Bessant wrote: It's been argued by several people that having to scroll down where they didn't before is a reduction in usability. These points, when made clearly and politely, have been largely ignored. I'm not really surprised that people are now becoming frustrated and describing the new write page layout as terrible. Okay, let me not ignore it, and state as I have in half a dozen other emails that I do not think having to scroll to enter a category is a reduction is the overall usability of the page. I think Andrew's email describes well what the (apparently) silent majority of people have expressed in their feedback, that the primary thing they want to do on the write page is *write*. Categories, tags, etc are things that are generally written after the post (and we'll even be able to auto-suggest them based on the post content in the future, removing even more friction), as it's difficult to know how to tag something before it exists. All design is a series of tradeoffs. The tradeoff here is that an assumed larger set of both power and novice users look at the new admin screen and say ooh, less clutter, fewer distractions, easier uploading while a smaller set says where are my categories? and then scrolls down two clicks and sees them. The second group either learns to scroll down a bit after writing a post, or installs a plugin to tailor their experience to their suiting. I haven't mentioned categories specifically in any post - my main disagreement with the new layout is the loss of the ability to customise it for the way *I* work. I've no wish to force my own particular requirements on anyone else, and WP has previously allowed me the flexibility to set things up in a way that suits me. I like being able to make more use of the width of my screen, but I can understand that not everyone wants that. I know you have a personal antipathy to options, and I can understand that an excess of options can lead to confusion, weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth (the Day Job involves technical support...). What I'm getting round to is that I do appreciate the efforts being made to make WP better. And yes, I will persevere with using 2.5. Can't guarantee I'm ever going to like it, though. Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Center
On 27 Mar 2008, at 06:41, DD32 wrote: The feedback given will be what steers the UI changes, Theres been a remarkably small number of complaints about the width from what i've seen, which means most people who have been testing dont mind that much. Most feedback on the changes have been positive, So its either people like it, They dont care, or they dont complain. Or that the people with objections made them some time ago, in detail, and found that their concerns fell on deaf ears, so stopped talking about it. To be fair, HappyCog( http://www.happycog.com/ ) did put a fair ammount of effort into the new design, And based it around a lot of user research, Put together some wireframe mockups of a better interface, And piece by piece, the Devs have done a great job of implementing the changes, and improving WP in so many other ways at the same time. Ah yes, user research. Rather like the interface changes Microsoft put in Office 2007. I believe the idea is to make software easier to use *for people who've never seen it before* while making it harder for people who make more advanced use of it. The parallel is remarkably close: Office (pre 2007) allowed users to have as many customised toolbars as they wanted, and to put them where they wanted, without having to do anything advanced. Office 2007 makes this impossible without add-ons WP (pre 2.5) allows users to drag and drop items on the sidebar to put them in the order that makes sense for them (including plugin items). WP 2.5 removes almost everything from the sidebar, and does not allow reordering of the items it pushes below the fold. This might be easier for people with a particular workflow, but makes it *harder* for others. WP 2.5 also includes the ability for Plugins to overrule the Admin theme all together, So i'd expect to see a few spinoffs which improve upon the current design, If the changes are popular enough, then i'm sure Devs would consider pulling those changes into the core. Once you've used the 2.5 admin for awhile, Its much comfier, if you've just changed over from the old interface, then its going to take some time to get your grips on it, As expected. I've been using it. I still think the split of the menu into two with some bits over to the right is illogical and arbitrary. With wide screens it's even more annoying. Not annoying enough to be unusable, but still not good. All i'm trying to say, Is give it a chance before writing it off entirely. There'll allways be people who do *not* want to change, I don't object to change per se, I object to functionality being removed in the name of making things easier. There'll be people claiming the old interface is better, and *nothing* will change their minds, In the specific case of the Write page, and for my specific purposes, the old interface is superior. Easy configuration is good. Those 3 groups of people are expected, Theres people who absolutely hate the old interface, Theres people who liked it, but found it cumbersome, or felt it was time for a change, and theres people who loved it. And people who were neutral about it, because it just worked, and therefore blended into the background. Point is, nothing much has changed, its just the people may have switched group. The Write page has changed enormously. So, If someone doesnt like a current design choice, Voice it, get it known, Who knows, Fluid width might be back in 2.5.1 Fluid width is less of an issue for me than the mangling of the Write page, but I think it should be there - let the user choose how wide the interface is. This is where web-based apps generally score. Perhaps a solution for the Write page would be a basic, fixed- layout, minimal page for beginners and a more advanced, configurable page for more experienced users (is it my imagination, or did WP used to do that?). Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Center
On 27 Mar 2008, at 22:43, Matt Mullenweg wrote: The true test of the release is how usage and adoption of WordPress changes after 2.5 (what people do), especially after people have had a few days to settle into the new feel of things, which I truly believe is a step forward. Much of the negative feedback is coming from people who've been working with 2.5 over weeks or even months... We didn't always make the safest choices, but we made the best ones. Some things will be uncomfortable to people who have been using WP for years, but I'm confident over time there'll be less and less friction. Best choices is always going to be a matter of opinion and perspective. Experience suggests that people can get used to things that are awkward and uncomfortable to use. This doesn't mean that the changes that they're adapting to are for the better. Finally, we do have a history of doing things that everyone hated or screamed bloody murder at the time, and were honestly painful to get feedback for, but ended up being good long-term decisions, like introducing the theme system or WYSIWYG. WYSIWYG is optional. Those of us who either don't like it, or have no use for it, can easily disable it. This is consistent with WP being nicely configurable to suit the user's needs. The fixed vs fluid width is easily addressed by a plugin. But the change to the write page makes no sense to me, and as you've seen from the comments here, I'm not alone. Making changes that disturb people isn't necessarily bad, but taking away functionality and choices is. Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Mr Add Image To Post..
| I'll try and contact Ryan and see if I can get the plugin updated or | take over it's maintenance. | I sucessfully got in contact with Ryan and have now taken over maintenance. I have pushed out a small update which should fix this as version 1.5 and will look at further improvements in the future. It should be available for upgrade in all your 2.5 blogs :-) westi Excellent news - thanks :) Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: avatar settings (was Image uploader problems and other 2.5 unpolish)
On 23 Mar 2008, at 03:58, Doug Smith wrote: Show avatars: None G PG, G R, PG, G X, R, PG, G Or maybe Show avatars rated at or below: Don't show G PG R X I like the way the second one reads, but I wonder if there is widespread enough understanding of the sequence of movie ratings outside of the English speaking audience. Or indeed outside the US - other English-speaking countries use different systems... -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Mr Add Image To Post..
On 23 Mar 2008, at 12:25, Peter Westwood wrote: As I said in an earlier thread. This message is from the nonce check code but no nonces are used by WordPress here. The previous poster found it was caused by a contact form plugin. Please try with all plugins disabled. Cheers westi - -- Peter Westwood Confirmation of that - I had Ryan Duff's old WP-Contact plugin active, and had the same result. -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Mr Add Image To Post..
On 23 Mar 2008, at 22:28, Peter Westwood wrote: I'll try and contact Ryan and see if I can get the plugin updated or take over it's maintenance. That would be great - when it behaves, it's nicely useful -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Title= versus Alt=
On 21 Mar 2008, at 09:31, DD32 wrote: It depends on the browser as to what is shown. Alt seems to generally be shown as alternate text, not as a hover over. The title arrtibute is used for on-hover tooltips. Be nice for both to be added. +1 for that, for maximum browser compatibility. Alt is used for hover over in IE6 and below, and that still accounts for a huge percentage of web users. While using title is more correct, we should account for what people are actually using... -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Visit Site link in safari
On 21 Mar 2008, at 14:02, Frank Helmschrott wrote: Hi, seems like the Visit site link isn't working with safari 3.1 / mac osx 10.5.2. Works for me (revision 7448) And please: could anyone plese remove that silly old-fashioned target=_blank in there? We're all able to click cmd/ctrl/middlemouse whatever to open i a new windows or tab, aren't we? I hate it when software tries to tell me where i have to open my links ;-) +1 for that - it opens a new window, which I don't need or want. A new tab, I could live with... -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Title= versus Alt=
On 21 Mar 2008, at 20:22, Matt wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for that, for maximum browser compatibility. Alt is used for hover over in IE6 and below, and that still accounts for a huge percentage of web users. While using title is more correct, we should account for what people are actually using... IE7 also uses alt as a hover too. IE8 doesn't. Thanks - I didn't have an IE7 installation to check! -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Save and Continue Editing Button
Add me to that... -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ On 20 Mar 2008, at 21:06, Robert R. Marsh, SJ wrote: +1 I often edit pages in particular and it is very irritating to have to save, return to the edit, preview, etc. Rob http://rmarsh.com Message: 1 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:51:26 + From: Dave Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi, ok a bit more info on what I am doing and why I think we need an Auto-Save or Save and Continue Editing button in W 2.5. Because of the way I use WP I re-edit posts and pages days/weeks/ months even years after their original publish date. This is because I like to update the content, usually with related links to external sites. When I edit a post I like to quickly check everything is ok before moving on to the next post. In WP 2.3 I have 2 window (tabs) open in my browser - one where I edit the post, then click Save and Continue Editing and the other window (tab) for previewing the changes. After editing a post in 2.5 I only have a Save option, which takes me back to the list of posts. I think you can see why a Save and Continue button would be useful, not only for me, but anybody wishing to edit or re-edit posts. Hope that helps - any questions, please let me know. David Churchill ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Bookmarklet - is it gone forever?
I was playing with the Bookmarklet on WP2.3.3 (as I'm giving Safari 3.1 a proper work out, and I was missing the Firefox Scribefire extension). Its behaviour is a bit borked (opens write page in the same tab rather than a new one), but that's not all that important. Question is, where has it gone in 2.5? I can see some bits in Trac which suggest it's being moved (http://trac.wordpress.org/changeset/ 6903) and then another which suggests it's gone the way of the Dodo (http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3878 ). -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Bookmarklet - is it gone forever?
Apologies if anyone gets this twice - the original seems to have fallen into a black hole... I was playing with the Bookmarklet on WP2.3.3 (as I'm giving Safari 3.1 a proper work out, and I was missing the Firefox Scribefire extension). Its behaviour is a bit borked (opens write page in the same tab rather than a new one), but that's not all that important. Question is, where has it gone in 2.5? I can see some bits in Trac which suggest it's being moved (http://trac.wordpress.org/changeset/6903 ) and then another which suggests it's gone the way of the Dodo (http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3878 ). -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Edit Comment
On 19 Mar 2008, at 18:36, Hohndel, Dirk wrote: On Mar 18, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Mr. Awesome wrote: Nick Momrik wrote: Click on the comment author's name. http://img.skitch.com/20080318-e29heqxek22q4frt6e1ajqscff.jpg This is obviously going to be a problem for users / new users. It's been said already, repeatedly... of course.. but, I still think something like ...plain text that says ( Edit: ) BEFORE the comment titles, post titles, page titles and etc would perhaps be okay? Or, bring back the Edit link some wheres...Heck, even if you made an announcement post about THAT change, users would still most likely be confused out of their gourds... I'll admit that I am puzzled about this. The big new thing about 2.5 is the new user interface - yet with all the great feedback on the serious shortcomings of the new interface I see very little response that makes me comfortable that these issues will be addressed prior to the release. Open Source is all about community - ignoring your community is rarely a smart move. And adding all kinds of usability traps is going to come back and bite you. Just my 2¢ I've added this to http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/6282 This kind of thing was identified as a general problem on the web a long, long time ago[1]. Have people forgotten? See http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/mysterymeatnavigation.html [1] In internet years, that is -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Another non-obvious link
In 2.3.3, at top right of the Dashboard is a clearly visible, underlined link My Profile. This is good - it's obviously a link, and it describes what it does. In 2.5, this wording is gone. Access to your profile is by clicking your name. As the name is not underlined, and isn't significantly distinguished from the Howdy, it's not at all obvious that it's a link at all, much less what it leads to. This is not good. Navigation should not be a guessing game. I've added this to Trac - http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/6282 -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Classic colour scheme borkage
If the Classic colour scheme is selected, the text colour for plugin update information is almost invisible against the background. Max OS X 10.5, both on Firefox 2.0.0.12 and Safari 3.0.4. Screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/2340277487/ Visibility is normal with the Fresh colour scheme. -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] 2.5 Safari Compatibility
On 25 Feb 2008, at 01:01, spencerp wrote: Gene Steinberg wrote: On Feb 24, 2008, at 5:54 PM, Aaron Harun wrote: Hey, IE is a perfectly fine piece of software. I think someone is tipping the bottle pretty hard tonight. IE7 is a perfectly usable browser, with vastly improved standards support. It still has a long way to go, but it bears little resemblance to the horror that was IE6. -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Revision 6727 - New dashboard Firefox only?
From: spencerp [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Blackbourn wrote: As much as everyone would love to, that won't happen. IE6 still has a very large, if not the largest, browser market share. Yeah, it's a sad shame too. Quick, someone from Firefox browser tech support, pose as Microsoft Employee / Techie and provide Firefox upgrades to replace IE upgrades by default... So when people THINK they'll be upgrading to latest Microcrap IE versions they really getting latest Firefox version... have this for all IE versions, automatically upgrading to Firefox regardless of user choice or not... Okay, sorry, woke up in middle of a nice dream... *lays back down again, falls asleep * IE7 should begin to increase its share fairly soon. Windows XP will be getting Service Pack 3 in the next few months, and that will happily install IE7 on a lot more machines than would ever get it if people were left to install it separately. While not all XP users will add the SP, a lot will, which should help with the reduction of IE6's presence. We can then hope for a bit more word of mouth to spread the news further... -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ Message sent using Entourage 2008 on Mac OS X ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] 2.3 and loooooong running queries
I'm putting it down to random weirdness. I haven't had a recurrence so far. Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Handy Sent: 05 October 2007 02:59 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] 2.3 and loong running queries Thought I had it narrowed down to a plugin. I was wrong. After a 36 hour reprieve, the issue returned. I'm now running Default theme and very few plugins. Any thoughts on how to proceed? Of course, it would wait to start up again after I had a nice StumbleUpon burst going... On 10/3/07, Handy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/3/07, Austin Matzko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/3/07, Ryan Boren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless, WP should only do these queries when tag=foo+bar+baz+... is requested. From the query, it looks like someone made a request similar to /tag/ubuntu+how+to+make+your+fonts+smooth+enough+to+drool+over And those aren't tags. Those words were in the title attribute of a broken link (which I've since de-linked. Both times, the query that killed me was using the same where clause (as above). I just noticed I'm dead again, so will be curious to see the where clause of the latest issue. Seemingly WP has confused a search string with a tag intersection. Could one of the plugins be doing that? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] 2.3 and loooooong running queries
Now there's a funny thing.
I had *exactly* the same thing happen to me yesterday. It wasn't breaking
anybody else's site on my host's server[1], but it was using the maximum
number of connections, which made my site die. I have a remarkably similar
log, which I'll provide if it's of any help. I also imported tags from UTW.
The only tagging plugins I have are Click Tags and Tag Managing Thing,
neither of which (AFAIK) have any interaction with displayed pages.
In my case, it appeared to be dying while looking at a single image page
generated by WPG2. I don't entirely understand the query, but it looked like
it was trying to do something taggy with every word in the description of
the photograph. After a friendly exchange of emails with Dreamhost support,
I've disabled WPG2 for the time being, and the site is back up. I was going
to look into this at the weekend, when I'll have more time, but since
Handy's had the same issue, I thought it was worth mentioning it.
[1] Ah, I see we're both on Dreamhost...
Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Handy
Sent: 03 October 2007 04:29
To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com
Subject: [wp-testers] 2.3 and loong running queries
Help me Obi-wan{s), you're my last hope...:-)
I upgraded to 2.3 over the weekend. Seemed to go smoothly enough. I
imported my UTW tags and went native for tagging.
Twice now I've managed to clobber MySQL with endless queries that use
up my
max_user_connections. I'm on shared hosting and my host is not
amused...
They sent me a snippet of the query, but it must be one that's
programmatically built as I sure can't turn anything like it up with
grep.
The query is below for reference (check those joins and the where
clause!).
I've yet to determine if this is core or plugin related. This
evening,
when it clunked on me I did have two tagging plugins enabled:
* Advanced Tag Entry: http://www.poplarware.com/tagplugin.html
* WP 2.3 Related Posts:
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-23-related-posts-plugin/
I didn't write any posts today, so that would presumably excuse the
first.
But the second doesn't seem to generate anything like what's below
either
(as far as I can tell). I monitored the mysql processlist most of the
day
and never saw any spikes, so I'm a bit bemused as to what triggers this
in
the first place.
Any suggestions on how best to track this down? I'm a bit stumped at
the
moment.
--
Here is the query, below that the top of the show processlist; in
mysql.
#
# Query_time: 77983 Lock_time: 0 Rows_sent: 0 Rows_examined: 0
SELECT SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS wp_posts.* FROM wp_posts LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr0 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr0.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt0 ON (tr0.term_taxonomy_id =
tt0.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term0 ON (tt0.term_id = term0.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr1 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr1.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt1 ON (tr1.term_taxonomy_id =
tt1.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term1 ON (tt1.term_id = term1.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr2 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr2.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt2 ON (tr2.term_taxonomy_id =
tt2.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term2 ON (tt2.term_id = term2.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr3 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr3.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt3 ON (tr3.term_taxonomy_id =
tt3.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term3 ON (tt3.term_id = term3.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr4 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr4.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt4 ON (tr4.term_taxonomy_id =
tt4.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term4 ON (tt4.term_id = term4.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr5 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr5.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt5 ON (tr5.term_taxonomy_id =
tt5.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term5 ON (tt5.term_id = term5.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr6 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr6.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt6 ON (tr6.term_taxonomy_id =
tt6.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term6 ON (tt6.term_id = term6.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr7 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr7.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt7 ON (tr7.term_taxonomy_id =
tt7.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term7 ON (tt7.term_id = term7.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr8 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr8.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt8 ON (tr8.term_taxonomy_id =
tt8.term_taxonomy_id)
LEFT JOIN wp_terms AS term8 ON (tt8.term_id = term8.term_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_relationships AS tr9 ON (wp_posts.ID = tr9.object_id) LEFT JOIN
wp_term_taxonomy AS tt9 ON (tr9
RE: [wp-testers] Re: 2.3 and loooooong running queries
Thanks - it was just a guess as in my case the crazy infinite query thingy happened on a WPG2 page. I'll happily reactivate it now :) Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ozgreg Sent: 03 October 2007 12:38 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: [wp-testers] Re: 2.3 and loong running queries FYI.. You can take the WPG2 plugin out of the equation we have no tags (yet, that is for the future when we get the API for G2 tags up and running) m2f Gallery2 Embedded Forums (http://www.galleryembedded.com/forums/) m2f ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Zombie Couriers
-- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1]: http://lcb.me.uk/losingit/ My Flickr Pictures: http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Please include a name in your From: . You will find more generous responses when people can identify you as opposed to a throw away email address. Not so easy with the service I use. Ain't gonna happen. As long as the email goes out on a mailman archive, you get Mr. Anonymous. 3. Please provide a subject. Re: wp-testers Digest, Vol 31, Issue 59 is a fast way to have your emails deleted. That was a mistake, and I apologize. 3.1. Once you have a subject don't change it with the next email. Okee-dokee. Soften the tone of your messages. http://foolswisdom.com/dont-beat-up-the-good-people/ Hmm... Methinks a saying about geese and ganders applies here. I do, sincerely apologize if my INITIAL (not subsequent) messages was beating you up. Grumble, grumble. I upgraded 2 sites. One, I upgraded from 2.2.3, the other, I had been keeping up with the betas, as it was still in development. In both cases, the final upgrade nuked the post2cat and link2cat tables, triggering admin errors. In the 2.2.3 upgrade, it also nuked my categories table. Luckily, I always keep my feathers numbered for just such an emergency. I went into my backup and pasted the SQL into phpMyAdmin. It seems to be OK now. Chris This was cranky, and you do deserve an apology: How could you guys not test against this? If you wanna see a REAL verbal beat-down, then I can share some real doozies with you. The rest of the conversation went the way it did because you guys decided on a good defense. One day, you may look back fondly on the guy that only chided you a bit in a mild way. I will say that you have been FAR more polite than most, which is good for you. I am very careful about what I write on these boards. It goes down in my permanent record. I routinely Google prospective staff, and have decided against interviewing some due to their behavior on the 'net. 0. Listen, Research, Do, Talk Don't lecture, participate. This was a funny joke, especially as you felt the need to repeat it (and you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of). This is the first time anyone in the know has actually ever responded to me, and it looks like I had to break bad to get that much. I've been working with WP since Version 1, and I have been on the boards for a couple of years. I ALWAYS have reams of code and detailed explanations when I report issues. This was NOT a spurious report. It was concise and factual; as are all my reports. I will continue to use and extend WP (I'm very, very good at this stuff), but I'll probably refrain from offering any suggestions in the future. I was merely trying to give back to the community. I wish to thank you for an excellent job, but you are right. The kitchen is too hot. I'll stick to the living room. Yours most sincerely, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Zombie Couriers
Sorry about that - webmail misbehaving -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1]: http://lcb.me.uk/losingit/ My Flickr Pictures: http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ Les Bessant -- Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1]: http://lcb.me.uk/losingit/ My Flickr Pictures: http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] New tag entry plugin
Works, and might just do the job for now - but personally, I'd like to have less on the posting page. Insertion and deletion of tags from a simple drop-down is all that I need there. Adding a new tag can be done by typing it into the existing box, so that's simple. A management page where tags can be deleted from the db, renamed, merged, etc would be useful. Thanks :) Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Hodgdon Sent: 19 September 2007 00:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: [wp-testers] New tag entry plugin We have had a few discussions recently on Hackers and Testers WP lists about tag functionality in the core of WordPress. As I mentioned in at least one of my previous posts, I needed more functionality for defining tags than the core WP implementation of tags allowed for on the post editing screen. In my case, it was specifically in order to handle multi-lingual tags (e.g. need to be able to enter the tag's slug directly rather than generating from the tag name, which contains language tags). Someone else also requested the ability to choose tags from ones previously used on other posts. So, I've created the first pass at an Advanced Tag Entry plugin, which adds a section to post edit screens. It works fine for me in the current bleeding-edge WP 2.3; I haven't tested with any of the RC zips specifically, but it should be fine. Feature list and download at: http://poplarware.com/tagentryplugin.html Thanks in advance for any comments you can supply! --Jennifer -- Jennifer Hodgdon Poplar ProductivityWare * www.poplarware.com Web Databases/Scripts * Modeling/Analysis/Palm OS Software ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Re: wp-testers Digest, Vol 31, Issue 26
http://codex.wordpress.org/Plugins/Plugin_Compatibility/2.3 Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dalka Sent: 16 September 2007 13:11 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: [wp-testers] Re: wp-testers Digest, Vol 31, Issue 26 Thank you to you all regarding your efforts to make Wordpress 2.3 stable and wonderful. I have yet to see much chatter about plugin compatibility, which as you know is why many bloggers are still on the 2.0 series. I'm myself am still on 2.1 because the popular podpress plugin has issues with 2.2. Can someone show me a list of the plugins that have been tested and certified to work in 2.3? These are the ones I'm concerned about are in this post. http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/08/28/wordpress-23-beta-1/ Thank you for your attention to this important issue. - Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Tags function request
I'd like to play with that - or any plugin that will do that job. Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Staines Sent: 05 September 2007 00:26 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Tags function request I wrote a plugin to do this tonight if you'd like to take a look and give it a test? regards Andy On 10:38 PM | Tue 4 Sep 07, at 10:38 PM | 4 Sep 07, Mark Jaquith wrote: On Sep 4, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Mariusz C. wrote: Will it be possible to adapt a function to the tag-function that suggest previously used tags, when writing posts? We're trying to refrain from adding a whole bunch of tags features at first, but this would certainly make an excellent plugin. -- Mark Jaquith http://markjaquith.com/ Covered Web Services http://coveredwebservices.com/ WordPress Ninja @ b5media Inc http://b5media.com/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] 2.3 Release Timeline
Yes please! Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dougal Campbell Sent: 24 August 2007 17:48 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] 2.3 Release Timeline I'd like to once again champion my ticket #4176 for the Reactivate All Plugins feature for WP 2.3. -- Dougal Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dougal.gunters.org/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Wordpress UTC Time
Most obviously, that not everyone's server lives in the same timezone that they do. For instance, my site lives on a server in California, while I'm in the UK. I set my site to display in my local time, and if it automagically set itself forward an hour when clocks changed in the US, I'd be irritated. Less technical people than me would be baffled, and the support forum would be deluged with questions about why WordPress doesn't know what time it is. Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Herren Sent: 22 March 2007 05:13 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Wordpress UTC Time THis is probably a naive question... What does wordpress have to do anything with time at all? Why doesn't it just read the underlying system clock, which already handles the daylight savings time changes? What am I missing? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Add comments to the posts will drop custom field of the posts?
Sounds similar to a problem with Ultimate Tag Warrior[1], which has much the same effect. The plugin will need to be updated [1] http://www.neato.co.nz/archives/2007/01/17/ultimate-tag-warrior-31415926/ Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paveo Chen Sent: 26 January 2007 18:35 To: wp-testers Cc: darkcanuck Subject: [wp-testers] Add comments to the posts will drop custom field of the posts? Hi,I upgraded my WordPress to 2.1,everything goes right but the post keywords.I use Jeromes Keywords plugin to add keywords to my posts,it works fine in my WordPress 2.0.7,when I upgrade to 2.1,the plugin seems working properly,I still can see the keywords in my posts.But,add comments to the posts will drop any keyword of the posts (the keyword row will be deleted from the wp_postmeta table)!I don't know why and need some one's help.Thanks for any suggestion. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Change of behaviour of smilie translations and WP-Grins
Following up on my own post...
A small modification to wp-grins so that it adds spaces around the tags
inserted means that the current translation behaviour will work in new posts
and comments.
Line 34 (the same one that needs to be changed for WP2.0.x, now reads:
$grins .= 'img
src='.get_settings('siteurl').'/wp-includes/images/smilies/'.$grin.'
alt='.$tag.' onclick=grin(\' '.$tag.' \');/ ';
(Spaces inserted before and after $tag in the onlick value.)
Editing old posts and comments that are broken could be fun, though.
Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Bessant
Sent: 16 January 2007 20:03
To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com
Subject: [wp-testers] Change of behaviour of smilie translations and
WP-Grins
Found this behaviour with the betas (it may precede them, but I didn't
look
too closely before).
All posts imported from my live 2.0.x installation into a test site using
2.1.
I have a number of custom smilies, all defined in wp-config.php. As I
often
string several together, not all their translations have spaces in. In
fact,
hardly any do. Most are of the form ':rant:' with the surrounding colons
being enough to ensure they are only translated when I want them to.
This all works as expected in 2.0.x.
In 2.1, I find that translation does not happen unless there are spaces
around the string to be translated. So a smiley at the beginning of a
comment tends not to be translated, two in a row don't get translated, and
those inserted straight after words or punctuation don't get translated.
I found this: http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2444 in trac - I'm not a
coder, so I have little chance of working out what it means, but it looks
like it might be related.
Is this behaviour expected[1] or is it something that can be changed
And on the subject of smilies, the traditional way of using WP-Grins
(http://www.tamba2.org.uk/wordpress/smilies/) doesn't seem doable any
more.
I've looked at the code, but don't have any idea where to start with
finding
where to put the call. I did manage to put the function call into a new
block on the sidebar, but that's not as neat as running them above the
post
form. Suggestions would be useful - I know a lot of people like clickable
smilies
[1] Or by design as Microsoft like to say about annoying features ;-)
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[wp-testers] Change of behaviour of smilie translations and WP-Grins
Found this behaviour with the betas (it may precede them, but I didn't look too closely before). All posts imported from my live 2.0.x installation into a test site using 2.1. I have a number of custom smilies, all defined in wp-config.php. As I often string several together, not all their translations have spaces in. In fact, hardly any do. Most are of the form ':rant:' with the surrounding colons being enough to ensure they are only translated when I want them to. This all works as expected in 2.0.x. In 2.1, I find that translation does not happen unless there are spaces around the string to be translated. So a smiley at the beginning of a comment tends not to be translated, two in a row don't get translated, and those inserted straight after words or punctuation don't get translated. I found this: http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2444 in trac - I'm not a coder, so I have little chance of working out what it means, but it looks like it might be related. Is this behaviour expected[1] or is it something that can be changed And on the subject of smilies, the traditional way of using WP-Grins (http://www.tamba2.org.uk/wordpress/smilies/) doesn't seem doable any more. I've looked at the code, but don't have any idea where to start with finding where to put the call. I did manage to put the function call into a new block on the sidebar, but that's not as neat as running them above the post form. Suggestions would be useful - I know a lot of people like clickable smilies [1] Or by design as Microsoft like to say about annoying features ;-) Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Change of behaviour of smilie translations andWP-Grins
Yes, that seems to be what it's doing. I'll do some more tests to confirm. But this will break things for anyone who puts two smilies in a row if there are no spaces in their definitions. I can see an issue here for a lot of general users who'd either have to Google RDF[1], or wouldn't care what it is. [1] I did. Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 January 2007 00:53 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: RE: [wp-testers] Change of behaviour of smilie translations andWP-Grins Hi, The change to the smiley system was initiated by ticket #1279, because people wanted to be able to use RDF in their blog without it being smilified. During this change we also fixed ticket #2 about smilies not showing if they were the very first thing in a post/comment. I tried a lot of different variations but there were always smilies not transformed that you wanted transformed or smiley-like things that were transformed when you didn't want them to. The current setting gave me the least false positives and false negatives of the settings I tried. In theory the rule I implemented makes something a smiley if it meets 2 of the following conditions (if you see different behavior, you've found a bug): - At the start of a line - At the end of a line - Starts with a whitespace - Ends with a whitespace Cheers, Bas Bosman (Nazgul) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lloyd Budd Sent: dinsdag 16 januari 2007 21:29 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Change of behaviour of smilie translations andWP-Grins On 1/16/07, Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this behaviour with the betas (it may precede them, but I didn't look too closely before). ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Upgrade your WP sites in 5 Seconds
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Layman Sent: 12 January 2007 18:12 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: RE: [wp-testers] Upgrade your WP sites in 5 Seconds OHOHOH! I almost forgot... One neat thing... I realized that with this script and the relative backups it makes of the files and the db, it should be really easy to restore the files to a different directory, then restore the SQLDump to a different database/database name and then change the wp-config in the new directory to point at that new database. SO, in short, you can easily create throw away blogs that you can use to repeatedly test upgrading 2.0.x to 2.1. I'm gonna try this later this weekend. I'll let you know if I come up with an instruction set. Now that is something I'd love to play with :) Les ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Upgrade your WP sites in 5 Seconds
Took life in hands[1] and gave it a try. Only did it on one site so far, and it worked with almost frightening speed. Blog happily running 2.0.6, with no apparent problems so far. That's running on Dreamhost. My knowledge of Bash is minimal, but the code made some kind of sense to me. Thanks for improving on something that was already very useful. [1] OK, I backed up manually and downloaded the backup first :) Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk My flickr pictures - http://flickr.com/photos/lesbessant/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wp-testers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Layman Sent: 05 January 2007 17:17 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: [wp-testers] Upgrade your WP sites in 5 Seconds Since 2.0.6 is released, I've posted my upgrade script on my site. Would any of you testers care to take a look at it and let me know if you see anything that will be unworkable for a *nix hosted site? The url is http://www.TheCodeCave.com/article315 At 323 lines, I'd love an extra dozen pairs of eyes on it and you are the only crew with both the bash and WP experience and a familiarity with the protective steps to take when testing. So, this seems the right place to go, even more so than to WP-Hackers. I'd like to write a webpage that can deliver the script with the customized headers on it, but I'm not going to do that until I am certain the concepts are proved safe. Here's a summary of the new features over the 35 second version: Customizable options at the top of the script Works for unlimited numbers of blogs with just updating the header Optionally performs Web update steps as well Optionally performs backups of all WP related files DISABLED: Performs a Database Backup Backups are to a directory of your choosing suffixed with today's date Can now upgrade blogs in a WordPress directory or any other Respects the tmp directory on your server Can be modified to perform nightly refresh of all blogs from a local tarball Can be customized to retrieve beta releases Can be customized to retrieve from the WP Archive site ___ Brian Layman www.TheCodeCave.com ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Revised Upgrade Instructions
He was being quite straightforward. Early today (UK time), the Codex was down Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Wild-Smith Sent: 26 December 2005 03:47 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Revised Upgrade Instructions I think he was probably taking the piss ;) After all most new users don't look at the codex, or even know it exists, and so that link is going to get posted on the forums sooo much... Probably just giving you some practice! -- Greg Amit Gupta wrote: Podz [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Michael E. Hancock wrote: | http://codex.wordpress.org/User:MichaelH/Revised_Upgrade_Instructions | | What is this Codex of which you speak ? | I see nothing what you don't see? its there alright!! Amit Gupta http://igeek.info/ || http://blog.igeek.info/ http://blog.igeek.info/wp-plugins/igsyntax-hiliter ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] is tiny-mce broken on Camino/Safari or is that mymisconfiguration?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Skelton Sent: 08 December 2005 23:12 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] is tiny-mce broken on Camino/Safari or is that mymisconfiguration? As for forbidden HTML elements such as script and style, I understand that these are being stripped to protect you from malicious authors but I also think that it's going a little overboard. Something of an understatement? The admin (and in a very large number of sites, that's going to be the only user anyway) should be able to decide what is and is not allowed, if there is going to be tag stripping going on. Guaranteed to generate a lot of questions in the forums, too. While having options (even default settings) to make WP easier for less experienced people, those who not only don't know any HTML but don't want to is (generally) a good idea, it's important not to do this at the expense of the users who *do* know what they're doing. Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk/ ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Option removed from 2.0
Unless the default behaviour is: If rich text editor is used: fix tags If rich text editor not used: leave my tags alone, I know what I'm doing (usually) Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Podz Sent: 28 November 2005 19:52 To: Testers Subject: [wp-testers] Option removed from 2.0 I also posted this to the forum: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/50605 In 1.5.2: WordPress should correct invalidly nested XHTML automatically is an Option In 2.0: This option does not exist. ?? P. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Talking of missing options...
Checked out SVN revision 3222. wp-options/options-misc.php no longer has the options for file uploads. Just spent a while looking for the options in the UI and couldn't find them. Did I miss something? Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]Losing it[1] ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Allowed memory size exhausted
Gallery uses ImageMagick, or Gd or NetPBM - whichever is available. It has a configuration option to let the admin decide which tool is used if more than one is on the server. Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Deaton Sent: 24 November 2005 16:38 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Allowed memory size exhausted The best and most common way to do this on *nix and possibly windows to is ImageMagick, atlhough I'm curious if runninga b inary is entirely required. Does anybod know off hand how scripts like Gallery handle this? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Allowed memory size exhausted
Ah, sorry. As far as I can tell, the advice seems to be setting limits in php.ini where you have access to it, otherwise in .htaccess php_value memory_limit [new memory limit] Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Deaton Sent: 24 November 2005 17:36 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Allowed memory size exhausted I was actually talking about the memory limit with GD On 11/24/05, Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gallery uses ImageMagick, or Gd or NetPBM - whichever is available. It has a configuration option to let the admin decide which tool is used if more than one is on the server. Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Losing it[1] - http://lcb.me.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Deaton Sent: 24 November 2005 16:38 To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.com Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Allowed memory size exhausted The best and most common way to do this on *nix and possibly windows to is ImageMagick, atlhough I'm curious if runninga b inary is entirely required. Does anybod know off hand how scripts like Gallery handle this? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers -- --Robert Deaton http://somethingunpredictable.com ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Beta 1 Live
Last time I updated my CVS installation, the version went to 2.0 beta1 Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]Losing it[1] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Humaneasy ConsultingSent: 20 November 2005 17:21To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.comSubject: Re: [wp-testers] Beta 1 Live Because someone told it some time ago. What do you thought? When several ask the same it was not their invention and I don't have the time to search for it now.I only asked because I'm using a 1.6 CVS and would like to know if there is diferences OR if this is the new numbering and I should forget 1.6 OR if this is a parallel development. Some projects do that, you know. Having a stable version that is being upgraded slowly and a more unstable version that is also being under development at the same time for the more corageous.So. What is the case with Wordpress?Thanks in advance. 2005/11/20, Podz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amit Gupta wrote: Shelby Denike [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yeah I am wondering what was with the version jump like that .721.01.21.5so why the assumption that it would be 1.6 ? :)P.___wp-testers mailing listwp-testers@lists.automattic.comhttp://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
RE: [wp-testers] Odd redirect
Does the same with the default theme. Hmmm, wonder what I broke :-) Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]Losing it[1] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les BessantSent: 20 November 2005 19:51To: wp-testers@lists.automattic.comSubject: [wp-testers] Odd redirect Not sure about this one Editing my profile. Click "Update Profile" and it attempts to go to /wordpress/install/, which obviously doesn't exist. Logging out does the same thing. Theme is my home-grown, based on Classic one. I'll try it with some others and see what happens... Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]Losing it[1] ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
