Re: [WSG] What have I missed here?
I'm taking a glance at your page errors and will give you a few points to help you get stuff sorted out./ Line 48 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm#line-48, column 112/: there is no attribute height (explain... http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef) |...llspacing=0 cellpadding=0 height=18| table's height are defined by the total height of it's columns. columns have a height property, tables do not. /Line 92 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm#line-92, column 154/: character is the first character of a delimiter but occurred as data ...=MCTimber / Metal Combination Legs Metal Legs/a/li | Anywhere you want an ampersand to display on a page, it has to be entered using its unicode encoding which is amp; |/Line 150 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm#line-150, column 82/: required attribute alt not specified (explain... http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-missing). |com.au/images/SmallFooterSymbol.jpg/p| All images have to have an alt attribute in xhtml. It's pretty easy to forget to include alt's if you're not always thinking about it. i do it all the time :) /Line 150 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm#line-150, column 86/: end tag for img omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified |au/images/SmallFooterSymbol.jpg/p you didn't close the img tag properly. In XHTML, img tags have to be written up as img src=url alt=alt text / .. if you add a space and slash to the end of your img tags, these errors will go away. same goes for the hr tag you used; needs to be hr / |/Line 152 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm#line-152, column 26/: reference not terminated by REFC delimiter |p align=centercopy 2003 Auslegs, Pitt Town, NSW, Australia/p that's just a run-on mumbo jumbo for you forgot to put a semicolon after the copy |//|| HTH bud -Ryan http://www.theward.net Michael Kear wrote: A are you saying just cos there's 56 teensy weensy little errors that makes a difference Gulp! Yeah. Well by the time I've fixed all those I might just have fixed whatever the problem is. Thanks Peter. Cheers Mike Kear -Original Message- From: Peter Firminger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2003 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] What have I missed here? Hi Michael, First problem is that the page isn't valid. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm Second, the CSS isn't valid. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/style s/auslegs.csswarning=1profile=css2usermedium=all I suggest sorting those issues out first as this will eliminate some of the problems and make troubleshooting easier for others. A doctype is very important as it affects how browsers render the page. Regards, Peter -Original Message- From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 4:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] What have I missed here? I tried using the classic CSS menu from the Uberlink CSS Rollovers: Overview article I picked up on this list. I managed to copy the code and style sheet from that tutorial, and now I want to see how it will work on a site I'm working on. It's a two-level menu setup though, so I want to have the minor level have different style. I've managed to get two levels in the menu ok, but for some reason the first item in the sub-level has all the characteristics of the top level. Can anyone see what I've got wrong in the code? The page is at http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm And the style sheet concerned is at http://auslegs.com.au/styles/auslegs.css The first sub-menu item should be classic turned timber lounge legs - the first item under the Products category. The structure of the menu on the page is: ul liTop level item/li liTop level item/li liTop level item ul liSecond level item/li liSecond level item/li liSecond level item/li /ul /li liTop level item/li ul Is anything wrong with this structure? It works fine on another site I have. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com p.s. I know it looks horrible right now. I want to get this to work then I'll do some pretty graphics for the menus to suit the site. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The
RE: [WSG] What have I missed here?
Hi Michael,
When you output the data from the database, do a replacement on with amp;
so that it doesn't have to be changed in the database.
Not wanting to go too far off topic (it's to do with valid output so I think
it's ok) the way I do this in CF is the following in application.cfm:
cfscript
function OutputFormat(string)
// cleans the output from the database to the page
{
returnstring = Trim(string);
returnstring = Replace(returnstring, '', 'amp;', 'all');
return returnstring;
}
request.OutputFormat = OutputFormat;
/cfscript
Then on the page itself:
#request.OutputFormat(database_field_content)#
P
-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 10:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] What have I missed here?
Thanks Ryan, But I'm working on that page at the moment, and
there's no
telling what you'll see if you look at it now.
I'm not sure about the ampersand. It's a dynamic field
coming form the
client's inventory database and I don't think I'll be asking
him to change
his inventory and invoicing system just so it can please a
web validator.
Maybe I'll just make do with a lesser standard rather than
have him change 4
or 5 of his internal systems. I'll have to think about that.
But thanks a lot for going to the trouble to help. I'll have a go at
tidying up the page and see where I stand after that.
Cheers
Mike Kear
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Christie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2003 9:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] What have I missed here?
I'm taking a glance at your page errors and will give you a
few points
to help you get stuff sorted out./
Line 48
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about
/index.cfm#lin
e-48,
column 112/: there is no attribute height (explain...
http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef)
|...llspacing=0 cellpadding=0 height=18|
table's height are defined by the total height of it's
columns. columns
have a height property, tables do not.
/Line 92
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about
/index.cfm#lin
e-92,
column 154/: character is the first character of a delimiter but
occurred as data ...=MCTimber / Metal Combination Legs Metal
Legs/a/li
|
Anywhere you want an ampersand to display on a page, it has
to be entered
using its
unicode encoding which is amp;
|/Line 150
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about
/index.cfm#lin
e-150, column 82/: required attribute alt not specified
(explain...
http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-missing).
|com.au/images/SmallFooterSymbol.jpg/p|
All images have to have an alt attribute in xhtml. It's pretty easy to
forget to include
alt's if you're not always thinking about it. i do it all the time :)
/Line 150
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about
/index.cfm#lin
e-150, column 86/: end tag for img omitted, but OMITTAG
NO was specified
|au/images/SmallFooterSymbol.jpg/p
you didn't close the img tag properly. In XHTML, img tags
have to be written
up as
img src=url alt=alt text / .. if you add a space and
slash to the end
of your
img tags, these errors will go away. same goes for the hr
tag you used;
needs to be hr /
|/Line 152
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about
/index.cfm#lin
e-152, column 26/: reference not terminated by REFC delimiter
|p align=centercopy 2003 Auslegs, Pitt Town, NSW, Australia/p
that's just a run-on mumbo jumbo for you forgot to put a
semicolon after
the copy
|//||
HTH bud
-Ryan
http://www.theward.net
Michael Kear wrote:
A are you saying just cos there's 56 teensy weensy
little errors that
makes a difference
Gulp! Yeah. Well by the time I've fixed all those I might
just have fixed
whatever the problem is.
Thanks Peter.
Cheers
Mike Kear
-Original Message-
From: Peter Firminger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2003 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] What have I missed here?
Hi Michael,
First problem is that the page isn't valid.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about
/index.cfm
Second, the CSS isn't valid.
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://ausle
gs.com.au/styl
e
s/auslegs.csswarning=1profile=css2usermedium=all
I suggest sorting those issues out first as this will
eliminate some of the
problems and make troubleshooting easier for others. A
doctype is very
important as it affects how browsers render the page.
Regards,
Peter
-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 4:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] What have I missed here?
I tried using the classic CSS menu from
RE: [WSG] What have I missed here?
Yes, '' is reserved for the declaration of XML entity references. As well as doing replacements on dynamic content, you also need to consider this in anchors when linking to scripts that use url variables. eg. a href=/php/forum.php?id=453amp;page=2 Page 2 /a Chris B * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Validated [Virus checkedAU]
You are absolutely right, but Show me and I will remember Teach me and I will learn I don't particularly do well when I have to read a whole page like that, however when someone shows me in a brief sample specific to my problem then I will learn ;-) Thanks anyway, I never thought to click those links, why I don't know?? Taco Fleur * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] XHTML/CSS standards guide
It looks good! I've been writing in XHTML for a year or so now, simply because I heard it was going to replace HTML and I was afraid of being left behind. I've read several tutorials on XHTML before I gave up trying to figure out the difference. Each tutorial seemed to be too vague. Your What Is XHTML tutorial just cleared everything up for me. Thanks! (I joined this group a few days ago. This is my first reply. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right - I just went to reply after reading Ryan's email and here I am, sending this. Hopefully it will work.) - Original Message - From: Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: [WSG] XHTML/CSS standards guide Hey guys, I've been working on writing a learners guide to XHTML / CSS composition and usage which is intended for beginners. It's going to be used to help train new employees that come to work for the design company within my university (http://medialab.jmu.edu). My boss is interested in implementing standards compliance in our produced websites, and it'll be important that people like our graphic designers and new coders know what's going on and start to get in the habit of standards. This will be an ongoing project. As of right now, there are just three pages published. If you have the time and want to give it a breeze through (experts and novice alike) and let me know what's good, what's bad, what's not clear, and what is glaringly incorrect I'd appreciate it :) link: http://web.theward.net/whatisxhtml.html Ryan http://www.theward.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
