Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Loads and views fine for me with ie5 and ie6 sp1 on win2k -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Michael Kear wrote: Ive looked and Ive looked, and I cant see whats the matter here.. When this page loads in IE, the body content of the page doesnt appear. However when you put another window over the top and come back to it, there the content is. Its loading ok, as a vew source will testify, but it doesnt display. Can anyone see whats wrong? The page validates as xhtml1.0 strict and the CSS validates too. Ive tinkered around with the divs and nothing seems to fix the problem. I suspect its another one of those stupid little things that stares me in the face but I just cant see it. Anyone? The page is at http://mezzanines.com.au/aboutus.htm Cheers Mike Kear AFP Webworks Windsor, NSW, Australia http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Oh! Well what about this page that's doing the same thing for me http://mezzanines.com.au/index2.cfmThat page also h as all the content there, because when you select it shows up, but seems to be white text on white background, despite what the CSS says. Cheers Mike Kear -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neerav Sent: Sunday, 28 March 2004 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page?? Loads and views fine for me with ie5 and ie6 sp1 on win2k -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Michael Kear wrote: I've looked and I've looked, and I can't see what's the matter here.. When this page loads in IE, the body content of the page doesn't appear. However when you put another window over the top and come back to it, there the content is. It's loading ok, as a vew source will testify, but it doesn't display. Can anyone see what's wrong? The page validates as xhtml1.0 strict and the CSS validates too. I've tinkered around with the divs and nothing seems to fix the problem. I suspect its another one of those stupid little things that stares me in the face but I just can't see it. Anyone? The page is at http://mezzanines.com.au/aboutus.htm Cheers Mike Kear AFP Webworks Windsor, NSW, Australia http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Try replacing the graphic - I had a similar thing happen today - image in a header viewed fine in all other browsers and evenen Mozilla on other computers. But would not display for the life of me on the one machine. I even replaced and upgraded Mozilla to 1.6 from 1.5 to no avail - rebooting didn't work either - finally I just re-uploaded the image and poof there it was - weirdest thing but it worked! Brian -Original Message- From: Neerav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page?? Loads and views fine for me with ie5 and ie6 sp1 on win2k -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Michael Kear wrote: I've looked and I've looked, and I can't see what's the matter here.. When this page loads in IE, the body content of the page doesn't appear. However when you put another window over the top and come back to it, there the content is. It's loading ok, as a vew source will testify, but it doesn't display. Can anyone see what's wrong? The page validates as xhtml1.0 strict and the CSS validates too. I've tinkered around with the divs and nothing seems to fix the problem. I suspect its another one of those stupid little things that stares me in the face but I just can't see it. Anyone? The page is at http://mezzanines.com.au/aboutus.htm Cheers Mike Kear AFP Webworks Windsor, NSW, Australia http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
John Evans wrote: @page Section1 {size: 595.3pt 841.9pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.emailstyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } Why do people send this junk to a mailing list? Why doesn't the mailing list software strip it out? -- Surely God would not have created such a being as man to exist only a day! No, no, man was made for immortality. President Abraham Lincoln Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Michael Kear wrote: Ive looked and Ive looked, and I cant see whats the matter here.. When this page loads in IE, the body content of the page doesnt appear. However when you put another window over the top and come back to it, there the content is. Its loading ok, as a vew source will testify, but it doesnt display. Can anyone see whats wrong? The page validates as xhtml1.0 strict and the CSS validates too. Ive tinkered around with the divs and nothing seems to fix the problem. I suspect its another one of those stupid little things that stares me in the face but I just cant see it. Anyone? The page is at http://mezzanines.com.au/aboutus.htm Cheers Mike Kear AFP Webworks Windsor, NSW, Australia http://afpwebworks.com hi michael just want to confirm that i'm getting the same problem with your page. IE6, WinXP SP1 justin * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Unsubscribing will fix it Felix. P Why do people send this junk to a mailing list? Why doesn't the mailing list software strip it out? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
AH YES!!! Thank you to Manuel González Noriega and Jason Turnbull. You both diagnosed it correctly, and with your help I've fixed the problem. It was indeed that bug that was causing the problem. I had read that note before, but it didn't mean much to me at the time, not having experienced the problem. Which leads me to another point ... we have a LOT of reading material here and I know that all of Russ's emails with the subject some light reading will contain lots and lots of useful stuff. The trouble is, its not always immediately of use, and later on when it is needed, I can never put my finger on the article again to put it to use. Is anyone giving any consideration to cataloguing all those articles? Perhaps an index on a web page or something? It would be good to be able to turn up an article mentioned here on the list 3 months ago by searching somewhere. Perhaps part of the WSG site. If not on that site, I'd be happy to provide SQLServer and ColdFusion and web space for the purpose. Cheers Mike Kear -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel González Noriega Sent: Sunday, 28 March 2004 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page?? El dom, 28-03-2004 a las 11:08, Michael Kear escribió: Ive looked and Ive looked, and I cant see whats the matter here.. When this page loads in IE, the body content of the page snip You are not alone, it's a well known IE bug. Thankfully it's solvable too http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
El dom, 28-03-2004 a las 14:58, Michael Kear escribió: Is anyone giving any consideration to cataloguing all those articles? Perhaps an index on a web page or something? snip Glad you solved your problem. I'd say if you bookmark one or two 'entry points' and surf from there, every useful resource is at most a couple of jumps away. CSS info is pretty well catalogued (in an emergent, decentralized, Web's own way, of course :) My proposed 'starter kit' mini-set of CSS bookmarks http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ http://www.cssvault.com/resources.php -- Manuel González Noriega Simplelógica, construcción web URL: http://simplelogica.net EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TELEFONO: (+34) 985 22 12 65 Logicola es el weblog de Simplelógica http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Yes, its pulled down now Sarah, but thanks for looking. I had a totally different problem with coldfusion at the time I posted that message, so I made a static version of the page. Ive since fixed both the ColdFusion problem and the display issue I was talking about, so I have no need for the static page to litter the site. Ive done some housekeeping and got rid of it. If you want to see the site, the client will probably give me the ok to launch it tomorrow. But the (unlaunched) home page is at http://mezzanines.com.au/index2.cfm The page in question was the about us page, but the problem was also appearing on the home page and several others. Now all gone by using position:relative in the offending divs, thanks to two people on this list who pointed out the problem and also to articles with the solution. Thanks again for being interested enough in my problem to go looking. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Sammis Sent: Monday, 29 March 2004 2:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page?? I'm guessing you've taken the page down to work on it because I'm getting a 404. Sarah On Sunday, Mar 28, 2004, at 01:08 US/Pacific, Michael Kear wrote: http://mezzanines.com.au/aboutus.htm
[WSG] Some links...
BBC Broadcast goes full CSS: http://www.bbcbroadcast.com/ New css layout resources: http://intensivstation.ch/css/template.php Eric Meyer on CSS, just a shiny new tool: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/200403.html#d23t1304 Zeldman launches Happy Cog 3 - his company website revamped: http://www.happycog.com/ Structured tables - a good article on tables: http://www.isolani.co.uk/articles/structuredTables.html While you are there, worth a read are: http://markl.f2o.org/tutorial/tables/Advanced_Tables.html http://moronicbajebus.com/playground/cssplay/reformat-table/ Usability and Fly-Out Menus: http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archives/usability_and_flyout_menus.php Linked to before, but a great read for all developers: http://www.evolt.org/article/I_am_USER_hear_me_roar/4090/60295/index.html Articles on CSS in Finnish anyone?: http://www.2kmediat.com/css/ Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Michael - Iam getting the content but no style, except for one photo towards the bottom of the page. I tried in the latest ofMozilla and IE (PC_XP). Cheers Maureen Beattie Yes, its pulled down now Sarah, but thanks for looking. I had a totally different problem with coldfusion at the time I posted that message, so I made a static version of the page. Ive since fixed both the ColdFusion problem and the display issue I was talking about, so I have no need for the static page to litter the site. Ive done some housekeeping and got rid of it. If you want to see the site, the client will probably give me the ok to launch it tomorrow. But the (unlaunched) home page is at http://mezzanines.com.au/index2.cfm The page in question was the about us page, but the problem was also appearing on the home page and several others. Now all gone by using position:relative in the offending divs, thanks to two people on this list who pointed out the problem and also to articles with the solution. Thanks again for being interested enough in my problem to go looking. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah SammisSent: Monday, 29 March 2004 2:13 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page?? I'm guessing you've taken the page down to work on it because I'm getting a 404.SarahOn Sunday, Mar 28, 2004, at 01:08 US/Pacific, Michael Kear wrote: http://mezzanines.com.au/aboutus.htm
Re: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??
Felix This looks to generated from Outlook Express - it hasn't been sent by a list member. (The guidelines http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm suggest that everyone uses plain text to send email.) You may also be having some trouble rendering the messages with the mail client you seem to be using -- Netscape Navigator Version 2.02 (running on OS/2) Mozilla/2.02 (OS/2; I) (source : http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-client/client.html) Reasonable clients should render the text part of the email only (Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1) if that is how you have it set up. Please direct any responses about this offlist. Cheers James Felix Miata wrote: John Evans wrote: Why do people send this junk to a mailing list? Why doesn't the mailing list software strip it out? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *