[WSG] Thursday drinks in Sydney

2004-04-08 Thread Lindsay Evans

Hi everyone,

Due to the lack of a Sydney meeting this evening, a few of us regulars are
planning to hold our own little get-together, discussion will include (among
other things):
 - Just what constitutes a 'standard' drink
 - The accessibility of the bar area
 - Usability of the bathroom facilities

Where: Ship Inn, Circular Quay
(http://www.whereisthepub.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=77)
When: 6:30pm, AEDST

If you haven't had the (mis)fortune of meeting anyone from the list before,
then I'll be the one wearing the MXDU 2003 t-shirt  jeans, and most likely
have a pint of Guinness in my hand :)

So if you happen to be in the Sydney CBD this evening, then come and join
us!

--
 Lindsay Evans.
 Developer,
 Red Square Productions.

 [p] 8596.4000
 [f] 8596.4001
 [w] www.redsquare.com.au

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Re: [WSG] Footer on the very bottom of the viewing port

2004-04-08 Thread Chris Blown
Hey Mike,

Check here http://scott.sauyet.name/CSS/Demo/FooterDemo2.html

Regards
Chris Blown
http://hinterlands.com.au

On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 17:01, Mike Kear wrote:
 I want to have a footer stuck to the bottom of the browser window, but
 if the window reduces in size, the footer goes over the top of other
 page content. 
 
 What I'd like to do is have the footer stick to the bottom of the
 browser, except if it collides with other page content, which will
 push it down below the bottom of the viewing port and have a vertical
 scroll bar appear.
 
 Is this possible with CSS?  I know it's done with tables, because
 that's how this site is now, but I want to get rid of these tables.
 
 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 AFP Webworks, 
 Windsor, NSW, Australia.
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Re: [WSG] CENTERING SITE WRAPPER PROBLEMS.

2004-04-08 Thread Jackie Reid



Thanks all... I have fixed the problem with your 
help,

Jackie ReidMock Orange Web Site Development1st Floor92 Victoria 
StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 4035

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Leo J. O'Campo 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] CENTERING SITE  
  WRAPPER PROBLEMS.
  Jackie the info in this pdf file is just what you need.
  
  

  LeoOn Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 12:59 AM, Jackie Reid 
  wrote:
  Hi all...I 
have a couple of problems here that i dont seem to be able to nut out, any 
help would be greatly appreciated if there is anyone around on the day 
before the easter break.Firstly 
the site centers just fine in ie but is aligned left in firefox...why is 
this so?Secondly 
and more confusing, I have the site contained in a wrapper but in firefox 
the wrapper doesnt wrap,it doesnt seem to contain any of the elements 
that I have put in there. (if you look in firefox the wrapper is the little 
white bit at the top that is supposed to fill the whole site) Looks fine in 
ie again.If 
i display it as table-cell; it seems to work but thats not widely 
supported is it?site: 
http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.htmlcss: 
http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/css/juganaut.cssJackie 
ReidMock Orange Web Site Development1st Floor92 Victoria 
StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 
4035[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: [WSG] GLITCH WITH MARGINS

2004-04-08 Thread Chatham, Will
Total up all of your widths and margins of you left and right columns, and
you will see that they equal more than the width of your wrapper id.

The right columns falls below the left if you narrow the browser window as
it is.  Once you add more margin space, it's probably lowering the threshold
at which point it wraps, which led you to notice it.

Hope that helps

Will Chatham

oOo
www.willchatham.com
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Re: [WSG] ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? in Win IE6?

2004-04-08 Thread Tonico Strasser
Christopher M Kelly wrote:

Hello!  I was just beginning to read through the W3C's docs on XHTML 1.1 and
noticed the following example they provide of an XHTML 1.1 strict document:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en 
  head
titleVirtual Library/title
  /head
  body
pMoved to a href=http://vlib.org/;vlib.org/a./p
  /body
/html
While they do state the XML declaration is not required, they urge its use.

My questions is: doesn't the XML declaration send IE6 (Windows) into quirks
mode if it's present?  It seems like I read that recently.  Can anyone
verify?
Yes it does, create a testcase to see it yourself.

Example:

#testdiv {
  width: 100px;
  padding: 10px;
  background-color: green;
}
The green rectangle should be 120px in standards mode.

Tonico

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Re: [WSG] ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? in Win IE6?

2004-04-08 Thread Vlad Alexander \(XStandard\)
Hi Christopher,

No. But you should probably serve up XHTML 1.0 Strict to IE and 1.1 to
Mozilla/FireFox/Opera.  Here is the link on how to do this:

http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=16A6EBD1-9EEC-4611-98C8-C0F6234B9737

Regards,
-Vlad
XStandard Development Team
XHTML 1.1 WYSIWYG editor
http://xstandard.com


- Original Message -
From: Christopher M Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: [WSG] ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? in Win IE6?


 Hello!  I was just beginning to read through the W3C's docs on XHTML 1.1
and
 noticed the following example they provide of an XHTML 1.1 strict
document:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd;
 html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en 
   head
 titleVirtual Library/title
   /head
   body
 pMoved to a href=http://vlib.org/;vlib.org/a./p
   /body
 /html

 While they do state the XML declaration is not required, they urge its
use.

 My questions is: doesn't the XML declaration send IE6 (Windows) into
quirks
 mode if it's present?  It seems like I read that recently.  Can anyone
 verify?

 Thanks!  Great list!  Very informative!

 Christopher Kelly (GM22)
 phone: 309-763-7069
 State Farm Insurance Companies - disAbility Support




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[WSG] CSS problem

2004-04-08 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Hello;

Can someone take a look at this page:
http://vikberg.net/IAMU
 and suggest how I best separate the blue links from the white content 
area so it doesn't 'hog' the line?

  TIA
~Veine
Veine K Vikberg
http://www.vikberg.net
Professional Web Guru


Re: [WSG] CSS problem

2004-04-08 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Thank you, appreciated :o) However, no solution to my original problem, I 
think the box not expanding is just an oversight on my part not to use 
clearing div's :o)

*Note to self, check out Mac platform too!

   :o)
~Veine
At 02:01 PM 4/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Veine,

Just wanted to let u know that in Mac OSX/IE 5.2 the body copy overflows 
the bottom blue footer bar...

screenshot attached (I know it's small but I didn't want to hog everyone's 
email).

later,
Z
Veine K Vikberg
http://www.vikberg.net
Professional Web Guru


Re: [WSG] CSS problem

2004-04-08 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Veine

Your left col div is containing your center div you should close the 
the left div before you open the center div ...

e.g

 div class=leftcolleftcol-content/div
 div class=centercenter-content/div
and not

 div class=leftcolleftcol-content
 div class=centercenter-content/div
/div
as you have it now

Leo

On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 06:26  AM, Veine K Vikberg wrote:

Will;

Thanks for the suggestion, I did it and it seems to add a little to 
separate in IE6 WinXP Home at least, however, in NS (Moz RC1) it does 
not,... I am running out of ideas here.

As for the suggestion, note taken and should probably not be h4's but 
I was thinking search engine work ahead of time so to speak, as it 
seems to be indexing way more h4's then lists, I will probably change 
this.

Any other suggestion to see if I can get it to separate?

At 01:23 PM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:

To answer your question directly, add a right margin to your h4 tags 
in your
style sheet:

H4 {margin-right: 10px;}

To answer your question with a suggestion, don't use h4's for your nav
links.  Rather, use an unordered list to gain better control over 
their
display and establish better semantics in your markup:

ul
lilink 1/li
lilink2/li
/ul
For a great example, read A List Apart's Taming Lists at
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/
Will Chatham

oOo
www.willchatham.com
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 http://vikberg.net/IAMU
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[WSG] Guidelines reminder - attachments/caps

2004-04-08 Thread James Ellis
Hi all

Just a quick reminder that the guidelines for the list are at 
http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm - one of these includes 
a no attachments policy. If you want to send a screenshot to someone 
please do it off list - I'm pretty sure Peter doesn't want to send out a 
345 kb email to 500 people. It's also a kludge to download for those on 
dial-up.

Also, using all CAPS to write a subject line can lead to readability 
problems for some -  try writing the subject as a normal descriptive 
sentence. You may also end up getting weighted towards Nigerian bank 
spam by some types of filtering packages :D

Cheers
James
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