RE: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report
Sacramento, California (CA) Now is the Time for All People to Come Together Pinagigi wi no, thank you, Ellwood T. Woodie Bear http://www.bearrose.com; http://www.thebearbyte.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Email Confidentiality: This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply mail -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 8:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:28:22 -0700, Jim Barricks wrote: And what about Marina Del Rey, CA. :-) Is CA California or Canada? Oh, Looks like California Hmmm... we have 215 members in the USA, but haven't asked about location at any finer granulation. Hands up if you're in California! (and, on the assumption that CA state is a moderately large place - particularly hands up whose in the general Marina Del Rey area?) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Mac IE 5.2 and horizontally presented lis
I'm running into a problem with the presentation of my primary navigation in Mac IE 5.2. [..] http://www.capstrat.com/development/cs2004/template4.html First, try to use div#navigation ul instead of div#nav-primary ul, if that's what you want to control (at least it becomes much easier to read that way ;) and try to indent your code approprietly. Second, I think that your main problem is the lack of a width attribute to your floats. Also IE5/Mac prefer floated items instead of inlined, but that may vary. Try this first and come back if you still encounter problems. cheers, /Anton -- What your body lacks, your head compensates. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] What to do when an External Link won't Validate?
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:48:06 -0600, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An external link to another site doesn't validate (line 40). I get several errors. Did you read the information provided by the validator? The first error picked up by the validator is on Line 40, column 69. cannot generate system identifier for general entity 'CompanyID' The validator then highlights the problem. It's the C in the URL ...?id=90057CompanyID=0... The validator then describes the error. I read it. The bit that jumps out at me is: If you want to use a literal ampersand in your document you must encode it as amp; (even inside URLs!). The validator has diagnosed what the problem is: the unencoded ampersands in the url. It also provides a link that explains why this is an error: http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp Back to the validation results. The following errors are either the same problem, or described as ...usually a cascading error... meaning if the above error was fixed, these others would probably no longer be errors. So to answer your question, Is there anything I can do to make the page validate? I would follow the validator's advice and replace all in the url with amp; and then revalidate the page. And if I had any doubts about this affecting the link, I'd click it and see what happens. -ben * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] What to do when an External Link won't Validate?
Shane,
One way around the problem is to use some _javascript_ and the rel="external" property.
Firstly, here is the _javascript_:
function externalLinks() { if (!document.getElementsByTagName) return; var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a"); for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++) { var anchor = anchors[i]; if (anchor.getAttribute("href") anchor.getAttribute("rel") == "external") anchor.target = "_blank"; } } window.>
Next, alter the a tag to include rel="external" instead of target="_blank".
I use this on my sites,it works fine and it validates.
Hope this helps,
John Fender
Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a site I am working on. All the pages I've created validate except:http://sonze.com/isl/res1.htmlAn external link to another site doesn't validate (line 40). I get several errors. Is there anything I can do to make the page validate or is it a lost cause since I don't control the external site I'm linking to?Thank you in advance.Shane Helm{ sonzeDesignStudio*The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help*
RE: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot Hands up if you're in California! (and, on the assumption that CA state is a moderately large place - particularly hands up whose in the general Marina Del Rey area?) San Diego, CA here...2 hours south of Marina Del Rey. Cheers, Krasy = Krassy Lyakov web.developer web: http://www.krassy.com/ blog: http://www.krassycandoit.com/blah/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report
Hey folks, We don't need on-list confirmations of where you are thanks. If your details are right in the login database then we know. Thanks, Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report
What about a more central USA location like Chicago, IL? On Jul 17, 2004, at 3:08 AM, Peter Firminger wrote: Hey folks, We don't need on-list confirmations of where you are thanks. If your details are right in the login database then we know. Thanks, Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Oh, the humanity!
The voices are telling me that Martin J. Lambert said on 7/16/2004 7:35 AM: I agree with most of what you wrote, but just wanted to address this one point. I used to work for CDNOW before it went under, and can tell you why it isn't a simple site of static pages - there's WAY too much music out there, changing MUCH too quickly, to ever hope to keep up with it manually. That said, there's absolutely no reason why it couldn't be a simple site of database-driven *templates*, each of which adheres to web standards and is accessible to all visitors. I've done it myself, on a site that actually licensed much of AllMusic's content. Yeah, that's what I meant. It's insane without a database. Sorry for being unclear. And I have no deep objection to client-side bling-bling when there's some approximation to a point to it. For instance, a dear friend Cindy Ballreich designed some sites for Ticketmaster that would show you in 3D what the view was like from the seats you were about to buy, buddy Linda Branagan did some product demos in Shout3D where it was like holding the product in your hand, Virtual RealEstate in Germany let you configure your apartment online, and some other friends have done some good things with server-side scripting, DOM, and DHTML all of which clearly added value. And of course, the badgers. But I have yet to discover what the throbbing, shifting, peekaboo list items at allmusic.com add to except to my frustration. I call to mind another site we all know, because there's a message there: zombo.com. The *point* of Zombo is that it's useless. And I suspect most pieces of Flash substitute zombo for value on their websites. If I want to know what Ida's next record after _Will You Find Me_ is, I don't understand why they can't just tell me. But perhaps I'm just an old grouch, hopelessly behind the times. -- Rev. Bob Bob Crispen bob at crispen dot org Ex Cathedra Weblog: http://blog.crispen.org/ Don't ask yourself what the world needs - ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Some links for light reading...
The Practice of CSS Column Design: Boxes in Columns http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=CB7B3 A navbar using lists http://www.westciv.com/style_master/house/tutorials/quick/list_navbar/index. html Learning CSS http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archives/learning_css.php Per-site user stylesheets http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2004/07/15/persite Odeon and All Music Guide http://9rules.com/whitespace/web_experience/odeon_and_all_music_guide.php Bulletproof Slants http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/07/12/bulletproof_slants.html Filtering CSS http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/07/06/filtering-css.html Mac/IE5 support worth it? http://photomatt.net/2004/07/16/mac-ie/ Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: DVD Plaza redesign
FYI -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav N E W D V D P L A Z A --- DVD Plaza has launched an all-new website - if you haven't visited us recently our site is now much faster and boasts new and expanded features in addition to an easier to use layout. http://www.dvdplaza.com.au Please note that our site is now pure XHTML and CSS. This will work great with all standards compliant browsers such as FireFox, Mozilla, Opera, Netscape, Safari, Camino, Konquerer, OmniWeb, etc. Whilst we have implemented tuning, hacks, and JavaScript to force Internet Explorer to work like other browsers (IE is an extremely dated, slow, and crap browser) you must have the latest IE service packs plus JavaScript enabled for this to work. We recommend FireFox as a better alternative. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Trapping margins .. whats that?
Hi Mike, Basically, the margin top of a child element can (theoretically should) poke out the top of the parent element if no border or padding are applied to the parent. To stop this occurring, top border or padding can be applied to the parent and the child's margin is 'trapped' within the parent - not able to poke out the top of the parent element. Make sense? It is explained in more detail at the top of the same page (with demo's): http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=CB7B3 Russ What does it mean to trap the margin? It's unclear to me at least whether it's a good thing or not to 'trap the margin' and what it means when you do. Can anyone explain for me please? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
