[WSG] imode and chtml
Hey there, so... does anyone have any experience with chtml and in particular imode? We are currently looking into what we need to do to make a site we have made work well on imode... The site is valid xhtml 1.0 and I am wondering what will happen if we just let the imoders use that site. Which would be invalid chtml of course, because of extra tags (label for example) and attributes (title in an image for example) I'm really a fan of sending the same content to all users on whatever devices, but don't want it to make someones phone explode (joke, go on laugh...) We currently support a number of handheld devices which can view html and xhtml (including older pocket pc handhelds) but now we are being asked by our clients about imode. So, comments anyone? s ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?
El dom, 29-08-2004 a las 00:49, Seona Bellamy escribió: Thanks for the help, guys. I've gone with the dl as suggested by Mordechai, and the script that was in Zeldman's book (sorry, Mordechai, but it seemed like a slightly simpler, more flexible way of doing it - or maybe it's just that I've combed through it so often that I actually understand what it does!). The script, for those who don't have the book, is as follows: function toggle(targetID) { if (document.getElementById) { target = document.getElementById(targetID); if (target.style.display == none) { target.style.display = ; Shouldn't that be target.style.display = block; ? -- Manuel trabaja para Simplelógica, construcción web (+34) 985 22 12 65http://simplelogica.net escribe en Logicola http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Manuel González Noriega The script, for those who don't have the book, is as follows: function toggle(targetID) { if (document.getElementById) { target = document.getElementById(targetID); if (target.style.display == none) { target.style.display = ; Shouldn't that be target.style.display = block; Err... which one? The first one or the second one? Confuzzled, Seona. __ ella for Spam Control has removed Spam messages and set aside Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 16/08/2004 attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?
El lun, 30-08-2004 a las 09:49, Seona Bellamy escribió: Shouldn't that be target.style.display = block; Err... which one? The first one or the second one? Confuzzled, My fault entirely, i trimmed a little too happily :) The second one, as if the display is set to none you most likely want to toggle it to block -- Manuel trabaja para Simplelógica, construcción web (+34) 985 22 12 65http://simplelogica.net escribe en Logicola http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Manuel González Noriega Shouldn't that be target.style.display = block; Err... which one? The first one or the second one? Confuzzled, My fault entirely, i trimmed a little too happily :) The second one, as if the display is set to none you most likely want to toggle it to block Hmm OK, I'll try that. As I said before, I got the code from a book, so I don't fully understand why it does what it does. :) Cheers, Seona. __ ella for Spam Control has removed Spam messages and set aside Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 16/08/2004 attachment: winmail.dat
[WSG] Is the W3C confused!? XHTML HTTP specs contradict each other
When validating an XHTML strict page the form method attribute gives an error back explaining that it is case sensitive and needs to be either get or post Example: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2F209.200.68.105%2Fform_method_UC.htmcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=%28detect+automatically%29ss=1verbose=1 And here are results after fixing the case-sensitive verb: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2F209.200.68.105%2Fform_method_LC.htmcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=%28detect+automatically%29ss=1verbose=1 But the W3's own specs say that the HTTP verbs ARE INDEED Case Sensitive and need to be all caps!! Here: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/Methods.html What gives?!? Which Spec is right? XHTML or HTTP? On IIS using method verbs of the wrong case can result in an error Bad Request (Invalid Verb) http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828726 -Jason http://www.sixside.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] .pdf files
What is the best practice for .pdf files? The University of Minnesota has an accessibility standard for PDFs that I try to follow. For PDF documents that cannot be converted to speech output that is readable by assistive technologies, and other PDF documents that cannot be converted to speech output accurately I convert them to alternate formats and provide other info. In order to do this for each PDF document I provide: 1. The information in an alternative accessible format: RTF, HTML, or text format. 2. A link to the appropriate plug-in. 3. A link to an accessibility plug-in or conversion site. 4. An alternative means of obtaining the information. 5. When feasible, information to be down-loaded shall be made available in a variety of file types. For number 1 above if the PDF content is also in a Word file someplace convert it to an RTF. If it isn't convert it to HTML at the Acrobat accessibility site: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/access_simple_form.html For number 2 and 3 above use something like the following bit of HTML for the PDF warning: pPlease note this is a Portable Document Format (PDF) acrobat file. If you do not have Acrobat you can a href=http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html;download the Arroba viewer/afrom Adobe. This download is for people who do not have Acrobat installed on their computers. It allows you to open and view a abbr title=portable document formatPDF/abbr file. Additional Adobe free tools are available to assist visually impaired users at a href=http://access.adobe.com/;access.adobe.com/a. If you need further assistance obtaining the information contained in these abbr title=portable document formatPDF/abbr files please a href=contact.htmlcontact us/a/p For number 4 post contact info (phone number/email). For number 5 above *if* a Word document is available post it also. One of the major problems with PDF concerns accessibility issues associated with the document format, but this is only part of the problem. Even when users have the technology required to access information presented in this format, there can be content elements which have not received appropriate treatment to support accessibility (like using structural formatting for headings, etc. or text equivalents for images). For more information see the PDF Articles, in the Accessibility Section of the Web Design Reference Site: http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/accessibility#plugins Laura ___ Laura L. Carlson Information Technology Systems and Services University of Minnesota Duluth Duluth, MN 55812-3009 http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/webdesign/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Is the W3C confused!? XHTML HTTP specs contradict each other
... What gives?!? Which Spec is right? XHTML or HTTP? Both. In XHTML you tell browser which method to use in lowercase, and then it is browser's duty is tu make sure it sends apropriate HTTP headers to server in uppercase. Regards, Rimantas ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Links to Anchors in Scrolling Divs
Hi Shane You might get some ideas from here http://www.squidfingers.com/code/dhtml/?id=divscroller2 Cherrs Jeff On 31/8/04 5:16 AM, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new site I am doing that calls for a scrolling div similar to the scrollable div found at http://www.oddend.com/blog/ My concern is that I need to link to anchors in the scrolling div from a nav-bar outside the scrolling div. Is that possible? Also (I should know this), if a page scrolls horizontal instead of vertically, can you link to a anchor horizontally way right on a page or only vertically down the page? Thanks in advance, Shane Helm { sonzeDesignStudio ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Ph: 02 9570 9875 Mobile: 0419 350 760 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged and confidential, and are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please REPLY TO the SENDER to advise the error AND then DELETE the e-mail from your system. Any views expressed in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of our organisation. Our organisation does not represent or warrant that the attached files are free from computer viruses or other defects. The user assumes all responsibility for any loss or damage resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files. In any event, the liability to our organisation is limited to either the resupply of the attached files or the cost of having the attached files resupplied ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Web Standards Developer Job
At the risk of being slightly OT, it's good to see that finally big business are hiring Web Standards Developers (although I wonder who's hiring - Microsoft Australia perhaps?): http://mycareer.com.au/jobseeker/job/viewjob.aspx?jobid=2699588j_o=web+ standards+developerj_l=melbournej_ag=hudsonfrom=jobalertalertid=1224 61 I have been informed that this position is going to be filled quickly! Luke Moulton GO4 Multimedia Web Design Graphic Design www.go4.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Position absolute and centering
Can anyone elucidate this conundrum? I'm wanting to centre a horizontal navigation bar at the bottom of my header block, but I fear this is not possible. (In case anyone wonders why I would want to do this, I want it to expand upwards rather than downwards if the text is resized.) One of the difficulties I've encountered is that I can't centre the navigation bar using 'margin: 0 auto' if I set the navigation bar to 'position: absolute'. If I set the margin to, say, '0 30%' it moves into position just fine, but the 'auto' doesn't seem to do the trick. (Obviously I'm not using IE to test this.) Anyone know what's going on here? And, even better, does anyone have a solution? -Hugh ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **