[WSG] imode and chtml

2004-08-30 Thread scott parsons
Hey there, so...
does anyone have any experience with chtml and in particular imode?
We are currently looking into what we need to do to make a site we have 
made work well on imode...
The site is valid xhtml 1.0 and I am wondering what will happen if we 
just let the imoders use that site. Which would be invalid chtml of 
course, because of extra tags (label for example) and attributes (title 
in an image for example)

I'm really a fan of sending the same content to all users on whatever 
devices, but don't want it to make someones phone explode (joke, go on 
laugh...)

We currently support a number of handheld devices which can view html 
and xhtml (including older pocket pc handhelds) but now we are being 
asked by our clients about imode.

So, comments anyone?
s
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RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?

2004-08-30 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El dom, 29-08-2004 a las 00:49, Seona Bellamy escribió:
 Thanks for the help, guys. I've gone with the dl as suggested by
 Mordechai, and the script that was in Zeldman's book (sorry, Mordechai, but
 it seemed like a slightly simpler, more flexible way of doing it - or maybe
 it's just that I've combed through it so often that I actually understand
 what it does!).

 The script, for those who don't have the book, is as follows:
 
 function toggle(targetID) {
   if (document.getElementById) {
   target = document.getElementById(targetID);
   if (target.style.display == none) {
   target.style.display = ;

Shouldn't that be 
target.style.display = block;

?




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RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?

2004-08-30 Thread Seona Bellamy
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  The script, for those who don't have the book, is as follows:
  
  function toggle(targetID) {
  if (document.getElementById) {
  target = document.getElementById(targetID);
  if (target.style.display == none) {
  target.style.display = ;
 
 Shouldn't that be 
   target.style.display = block;

Err... which one? The first one or the second one?

Confuzzled,

Seona.

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RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?

2004-08-30 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El lun, 30-08-2004 a las 09:49, Seona Bellamy escribió:

  
  Shouldn't that be 
  target.style.display = block;
 
 Err... which one? The first one or the second one?
 
 Confuzzled,

My fault entirely, i trimmed a little too happily :)

The second one, as if the display is set to none you most likely want to
toggle it to block 


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RE: [WSG] Can someone help me figure out some semantic mark-up, please?

2004-08-30 Thread Seona Bellamy
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 Behalf Of Manuel González Noriega
   
   Shouldn't that be 
 target.style.display = block;
  
  Err... which one? The first one or the second one?
  
  Confuzzled,
 
 My fault entirely, i trimmed a little too happily :)
 
 The second one, as if the display is set to none you most likely want to
 toggle it to block 

Hmm OK, I'll try that. As I said before, I got the code from a book, so
I don't fully understand why it does what it does. :)

Cheers,

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[WSG] Is the W3C confused!? XHTML HTTP specs contradict each other

2004-08-30 Thread Jason Grunstra
When validating an XHTML strict page the form method attribute gives an
error back explaining that it is case sensitive and needs to be either
get or post

Example:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2F209.200.68.105%2Fform_method_UC.htmcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=%28detect+automatically%29ss=1verbose=1

And here are results after fixing the case-sensitive verb:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2F209.200.68.105%2Fform_method_LC.htmcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=%28detect+automatically%29ss=1verbose=1

But the W3's own specs say that the HTTP verbs ARE INDEED Case Sensitive
and need to be all caps!! Here:
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/Methods.html


What gives?!? Which Spec is right? XHTML or HTTP?


On IIS using method verbs of the wrong case can result in an error Bad
Request (Invalid Verb)

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828726


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Re: [WSG] .pdf files

2004-08-30 Thread Laura Carlson
What is the best practice for .pdf files?
The University of Minnesota has an accessibility standard for PDFs that 
I try to follow.

For PDF documents that cannot be converted to speech output that is 
readable by assistive technologies, and other PDF documents that cannot 
be converted to speech output accurately I convert them to alternate 
formats and provide other info. In order to do this for each PDF 
document I provide:

  1. The information in an alternative accessible format: RTF, HTML, 
or text format.
  2. A link to the appropriate plug-in.
  3. A link to an accessibility plug-in or conversion site.
  4. An alternative means of obtaining the information.
  5. When feasible, information to be down-loaded shall be made 
available in a variety of file types.

For number 1 above if the PDF content is also in a Word file someplace 
convert it to an RTF. If it isn't convert it to HTML at the Acrobat 
accessibility site:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/access_simple_form.html

For number 2 and 3 above use something like the following bit of HTML 
for the PDF warning:

pPlease note this is a Portable Document Format (PDF) acrobat file. 
If you do not have Acrobat you can a 
href=http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html;download the 
Arroba viewer/afrom Adobe. This download is for people who do not 
have Acrobat installed on their computers. It allows you to open and 
view a abbr title=portable document formatPDF/abbr file. 
Additional Adobe free tools are available to assist visually impaired 
users at a href=http://access.adobe.com/;access.adobe.com/a. If 
you need further assistance obtaining the information contained in 
these abbr title=portable document formatPDF/abbr files please a 
href=contact.htmlcontact us/a/p

For number 4 post contact info (phone number/email).
For number 5 above *if* a Word document is available post it also.
One of the major problems with PDF concerns accessibility issues 
associated with the document format, but this is only part of the 
problem. Even when users have the technology required to access 
information presented in this format, there can be content elements 
which have not received appropriate treatment to support accessibility 
(like using structural formatting for headings, etc. or text 
equivalents for images).

For more information see the PDF Articles, in the Accessibility Section 
of the Web Design Reference Site:
http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/accessibility#plugins

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Re: [WSG] Is the W3C confused!? XHTML HTTP specs contradict each other

2004-08-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... 
 What gives?!? Which Spec is right? XHTML or HTTP?
 

Both. In XHTML you tell browser which method to use in lowercase, 
and then it is browser's duty is tu make sure it sends apropriate HTTP
headers to server in uppercase.

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Re: [WSG] Links to Anchors in Scrolling Divs

2004-08-30 Thread Jeffery Lowder
Hi Shane
You might get some ideas from here
http://www.squidfingers.com/code/dhtml/?id=divscroller2

Cherrs
Jeff


On 31/8/04 5:16 AM, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a new site I am doing that calls for a scrolling div similar to
 the scrollable div found at http://www.oddend.com/blog/
 My concern is that I need to link to anchors in the scrolling div from
 a nav-bar outside the scrolling div.  Is that possible?
 
 Also (I should know this), if a page scrolls horizontal instead of
 vertically, can you link to a anchor horizontally way right on a page
 or only vertically down the page?
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Shane Helm
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[WSG] Web Standards Developer Job

2004-08-30 Thread Luke Moulton
At the risk of being slightly OT, it's good to see that finally big
business are hiring Web Standards Developers (although I wonder who's
hiring - Microsoft Australia perhaps?):

http://mycareer.com.au/jobseeker/job/viewjob.aspx?jobid=2699588j_o=web+
standards+developerj_l=melbournej_ag=hudsonfrom=jobalertalertid=1224
61

I have been informed that this position is going to be filled quickly!

Luke Moulton

GO4 Multimedia
Web Design  Graphic Design
www.go4.com.au






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[WSG] Position absolute and centering

2004-08-30 Thread Hugh Todd
Can anyone elucidate this conundrum?
I'm wanting to centre a horizontal navigation bar at the bottom of my 
header block, but I fear this is not possible. (In case anyone wonders 
why I would want to do this, I want it to expand upwards rather than 
downwards if the text is resized.)

One of the difficulties I've encountered is that I can't centre the 
navigation bar using 'margin: 0 auto' if I set the navigation bar to 
'position: absolute'. If I set the margin to, say, '0 30%' it moves 
into position just fine, but the 'auto' doesn't seem to do the trick. 
(Obviously I'm not using IE to test this.)

Anyone know what's going on here?
And, even better, does anyone have a solution?
-Hugh
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