Re: [WSG] Standards and ADS
Jad Madi wrote: Hi Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads? I added a PayPal link to my website but the supplied code snippet isn't valid XHTML so I had to manually alter it. Alan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
Taking a stab in the dark, I'd guess that all you did was change the content type meta to it. Well...that's not the way to do it. It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the article you reference: Oldie but goldie on the subject: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html So does anyone have a link to an article which can tell me how to properly serve up application/xhtml+xml using PHP? Thanks! Alan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the
article you reference:
Oldie but goldie on the subject:
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html
Aeh...where exactly?
It's in the section Accommodating legacy browsers and the PHP code
is:-
?php
if ( stristr($_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT],application/xhtml+xml) ) {
header(Content-type: application/xhtml+xml);
}
else {
header(Content-type: text/html);
}
?
I've been happily using this believing I am serving up XHTML and now,
thanks to your Tools - Page Info tip I find I am not!!
Alan
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[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
Thanks to everyone for all the help, suggestions and links. I've amended the code from http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ to send IE XHTML 1.0 and if anyone wants to borrow it then it can be found at:- http://www.college.gameplan.org.uk/wsg/mimetype.txt Alan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: Is XHTML harmful?
Ian Hickson is _not_ saying XHTML is harmful, he is saying that serving up XHTML with the wrong MIME type is bad. I've read the article and what I don't understand is that if it is so bad why is it acceptable to the Validator? I write my pages in XHTML with a XHTML 1.1 doctype and send the content type as text/html. That's how I was taught (doesn't make it right I know) and it validates. I've tried several methods of sending different headers depending on the browser but have yet to find one that works properly. Alan http://www.gameplan.org.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site critique
Also, when validated I got 105 errors. The bulk of them had to do with MM. Any suggestions appreciated. My first suggestion would be to post a URL :-) Alan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: Why_does_this_floated_text_not_show_up_in_IE?
Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll have another look tomorrow, if someone hasn't already come up with a simple and elegant solution - which they will... Love this list. So do I :-) Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Adding height 1% to #information fixed it without screwing the border. Thanks for your other hints as well. Alan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] meta http-equiv
The correct content type or MIME type for an XHTML document is application/xhtml+xml. Although I might add internet explorer doesn't understand it so you need to determine if the users browser accepts it.You can do this in PHP by writing: : SNIP: The suggested method doesn't work when you go to validate your pages, see the discussion at: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: Proper usage of Blockquote and Cite
Is this the semantically correct way to use these elements? I would end the blockquote AFTER the cite. Alan blockquote pTestimonial or feedback here/p pMore feedback by same person/p citeNN, Occupation/cite /blockquote * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: Hybrid layouts
I think part of this debate is because many developers have years of experience and know all the tricks of getting tables laid out how they want. For someone new, like me, I'm as well to dive straight in and learn CSS rather than worrying about the old way. I'd be interested in your views of my site for the PBM game I play: http://www.gameplan.org.uk (CSS at http://www.gameplan.org.uk/styles/gplan.css) As far as I can tell it looks fine in Mozilla / IE6 / Opera, the tables in the middle column aren't displayed properly in IE5 and it seems to work OK in Lynx, although the main content is a bit far down. Thanks, Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: javascript form submission
I'm going to add an input type=image button which will do the job but, where should I put now the form validation? I mean can I still use the onsubmit event on the input type image and use the same javascript function that there was before or is it everytime better to have the validation on the server-side to have a proper accessible form? Thanks everyone. Do it on the server - I'm sick of sites I can't use becasue they assume javascript will be available. Personally I use PHP on the server. Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: javascript form submission
I am also weak with javascript and no nothing about php. Can you point me to some good URLS and/or books that could help me out? Try http://www.phpfreaks.com to get you started. Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: Site Review and IE5 issue
I'll agree on the W3C icons. A grey or blue would be a better fit for the site. Also need to specify a style for the hover on those images, ridding them of the back background. Thanks. I have now downloaded the old IE Browsers and IE5.* makes a right hash of it with the centre column overlapping the right one even when there is no need. Any ideas anyone? Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: Site Review and IE5 issue
IE 5 Mac or Windows? Windows. Sorry - should have stated that. Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: Site Review and IE5 issue
http://www.gameplan.org.uk Well by taking out the percentage width parameters in the tables and cells it now works on Windows in Mozilla, IE5 and IE6. However that means it doesn't take all the space available to it. I can get it to use all the space (on my screen!) by putting a width in pixels but obviously that's not the way to go. So it looks like an IE5 bug where it's not properly calculating the space available to it in the DIV. Does that sound familiar to anyone? There are quite a few matches on google that look possible and I don't have time to follow them all tonight. I'll be at it again tomorrow but perhaps one of you will know immediately what bug I am hitting? Thanks for all your support. Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: IE5 v Mozilla
table width=100% Thanks - it was originally broken only in IE, hence the title, then I tried to fix it and broke it in both. Now working in both. Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Site Review and some guidance on inheritance please
Rev Bob wrote:- I do have a real comment. I think the color of the W3C icons is beating hell out of your blues. You either need to get rid of them (as in http://www.csszengarden.com/) or do something to give that orange-yellow a context. Thanks - I'll look into that. Don't answer his question. He made the Steelers lose to Cleveland! lol - if you select the NFLBC league you will see the Steelers (coached by me) won and are in fact the defending champions. :-) Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: some guidance on inheritance please
Nick and Cameron, Cheers guys - now working OK. Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Design Philosophy
I have seen some articles on the web that say we shouldn't care about how our web sites look as long as theyuse valid mark up language and separate content from presentation. Personally I want to design web sites that:- 1) Look good in standards compliant browsers. 2) Degrade gracefully in other browsers. 3) Are accessible to other devices (one of my readers uses Internet Television so this is a real practical issue for me). Is this a reasonable philosophy or is there something I have missed in this debate? Alan
Re: [WSG] Design Philosophy
What articles are you referring to? Well there's quite a few but here's one where the basic idea is right but I find it just a tad idealistic:- http://www.westciv.com/style_master/house/good_oil/not_paper/ Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Re: Design Philosophy
That article was written in 1999 as an intervention against the printed page paradigm and to get desinegers to transition to CSS. Sorry if I picked a bad example - have been reading a lot the last few days! Justin French Thanks for the feedback and encouragement Justin. Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] IE5 v Mozilla
Can anyone tell me what causes the table under Latest Results not to take the whole 100% width of the div?? http://www.gameplan.org.uk/ http://www.gameplan.org.uk/styles/gplan.css Thanks Alan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
