Re: [WSG] New site: something for vegans
Using FF1.0.3, WinXPsp2, 1280x1024. On the FAQ page, last question, the link, when i mouseover this, it only becomes a link in a very small area (i.e. not over it but just above it). All the other links I tried work correctly. Do vegans make better lovers? They think so. (www.newveg.av.org). Ben. On 4/21/05, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all ;o) Requesting a site check as well as design comments/suggestions... www.vfme.com Off-list responses encouraged, but if it's an issue you think everyone would benefit from please post on-list. BTW: if anyone wants to contribute a recipe, that would be great too! Many thanks, Richard ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Ben Hamilton - Director, Wallis Hamilton Industries Pty Ltd Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://wallishamilton.com/about/ Telephone 0410 460 333 (Australia) +61 410 460 333 (Internationally) Building web sites that work http://wallishamilton.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New site: something for vegans
I think it's to do with your image http://www.vfme.com/images/bgFooter.gif overlaying it. I'd look at adding a bit of padding to the bottom of the content. Ben. On 4/21/05, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's really bizzare, ben. Thanks for pointing it out - I'll look into it... - Original Message - From: Ben Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] New site: something for vegans Using FF1.0.3, WinXPsp2, 1280x1024. On the FAQ page, last question, the link, when i mouseover this, it only becomes a link in a very small area (i.e. not over it but just above it). All the other links I tried work correctly. -- Ben Hamilton - Director, Wallis Hamilton Industries Pty Ltd Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://wallishamilton.com/about/ Telephone 0410 460 333 (Australia) +61 410 460 333 (Internationally) Building web sites that work http://wallishamilton.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Blockquote or Q?
On 4/19/05, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways that is what blockquote was meant to refer to. I your situation I would use div id='sidebar' blockquote pI am seldom attracted to books of this genre.p pThis author was recommended by a friend, and I couldn't put it down!/p /blockquote cite Cole Kuryakinbr San Francisco /cite /div The only issue with the blockquote is that it can't contain plain text, it has to be in a p or something, but if you don't like the extra margin the p gives, you can just do Should the cite be outside the blockquote? or should it be inside? or either? i.e. blockquoteptext/p/blockquotecitetext/cite or blockquoteptext/pcitetext/cite/blockquote Ben.
Re: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi Rob For a compromise http://www.lionsq3.asn.au the tab key reveals the skip links. Very nice. I also like what Molly has done http://www.molly.com/ Use the tab key - 2nd tab -- Ben Hamilton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hamilton.id.au/?:-) Need a web site hosted? I was fed up with the poor service I was getting and decided that I could do better. Here it is: http://dynamicwebhosting.com.au/?referrer=emailsighidau ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fixed pixel fontsize - resizable font size
Neerav wrote:
Im doing a bit of pro bono work at the moment and not having ever used
fixed font sizes, was wondering if there are any percentage or em
equivalents or formulas to convert from:
FONT-SIZE: 11px;
etc
to more accessible font size units
The Kubrick template at http://binarybonsai.com/kubrick/ has a css file
that says:
code
body {
font-size: 62.5%; /* Resets 1em to 10px */
/code
I don't know where he got that conversion from tho.
Ben.
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Re: [WSG] Centering
Paul wrote:
Hi hope this isn't too simple a question but what am I missing in
trying to get the menu_table to center on this
page...http://www.kinggeorgev.ca/test_1.php
Thanks,
Paul
Paul Gauci
Director, Internet Development
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#menu_table {
position:relative;
width:788px;
border: solid 1px;
height: 13px;
margin:auto; /* added line */
}
works in FF1.0.2
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Re: [WSG] Hidden Content
Google do remove pages from their index. Current case in point is WordPress. Andre Torrez http://notes.torrez.org/ was the first to note that links to the articles (168,000 of them!) delare/delwere hidden on the Wordpress homepage using negative positioning with CSS. See http://www.waxy.org/archive/2005/03/30/wordpres.shtml for more. Ben. Kay Smoljak wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:46:23 +0100, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't actually believe that CSS styling will make any difference to search engine ranking. These robots spend enough time trawling through the HTML content. It would be time wasted to cross reference the content against: visibility, display, colours used, z-index and positioning. You can see what search engines request by looking at your log files. They've never requested my css files. However, I read somewhere a Google staff member said something like we reserve the right to index css files or not which means they may start in the future. Does anyone actually know of a page barred, blacklisted or banned by Google? I somehow doubt they ever do. They do ban sites - it happened to one of my clients (although nothing to do with css) and it took about eight months of campaigning to get the site included again. However, the biggest risk is your competitors - if I see a site spamming a search engine I report it. Many people do the same, and there *have* been cases of the engines taking action. -- Ben Hamilton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hamilton.id.au/?:-) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] problem mixing stucture and content
Perhaps this: code poemClass aptent taciti sociosqu qad litora torquent,lineend/lineend per conubia nostra/q per inceptos hymenaeos./poem /code Ben Alan Trick wrote: But the whole point of it is to have the data properly formated in an xml document so I can do fun stuff with xsl and stylesheets :). Line breaks won't cut it. Alan Trick Rob Mientjes wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:26:47 -0500, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the following lines of fake poetry: Class aptent taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent, per conubia nostra per inceptos hymenaeos. Now consider making a xml document out of it, where you had some elements for structure like poem and line; and some elements for content markup like q and others. So how would you format it? (Assuming keeping the quote and lines are both need to be the appropriate elements and style is not important, yet) Fake the PRE element. It automatically tosses new lines on new lines, unlike the usual element. Also, inline elements can go multi-line in PRE. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Ben Hamilton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hamilton.id.au/?:-) Web site hosting: http://dynamicwebhosting.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Standards compliant site, clients wants to make updates themselves
Bert Doorn wrote: However, I get many prospects who want to update sites themselves. In many cases, these are very small businesses with just one or two people, none of which have any idea about (x)HTML. Most of them have very small budgets, so they can't afford a complete CMS type setup (and it's not the kind of thing I can supply) and they tend to only want a small site (a few pages) for next to nothing. What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups (or forgetting about standards)? Regards I've found using Textpattern to be fairly successful in keeping client updated sites valid. -- Ben Hamilton http://wallishamilton.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] GMail... Terrible!
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: -Original Message- From: Gary Menzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Explan to me why GMail has to make it's product accessible to everyone? To continue evolving into a society that treats everybody equally, there is no reason why companies should not TRY to make their websites as accessible as possible, considering the little amount of effort required. I can understand if companies do not fulfil all the different priorities, but we can at least try, hey? And quoting the laws about discrimination wont cut it. They have the right to shoot themselves in the foot and lose all the users who can't access their FREE site because of all the other alternatives. I don't even have to quote legal issues - it's a matter of moral. It's not a legal issue or a moral issue. If it was, then the insurance companies that ONLY insure over 50's drivers would HAVE to be ACCESSIBLE to everyone. They aren't. Good on-em. Freedom and diversity. If there are alternatives that are accessible, then it's a business decision. If as Gary pointed out, they have a monopoly, that disadvantages people, that then becomes a issue. But Gmail isn't in that ball park. Ben. PS Personally, I think it would a wise and smart move on google's part to make it accessible, but I don't feel that they HAVE TO. -- Ben Hamilton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hamilton.id.au/?:-) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Help - newbie
Paul wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) and where should I start for tips on accessibility and standards compliance. Thanks for any help. Paul I use textpad and love it. syntax highlighting, lots of features I have used, more I haven't. http://www.textpad.com/ Free with a startup nag, pay to remove the nag. right click on the file, view in browser (firefox w/developer extentsions) and vailiate it there. -- Ben Hamilton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hamilton.id.au/?:-) emarketing, seo, web development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Styling a href with CSS
I got annoyed with links not being what I expected. And started to figure a way to let people know where links on my site are going to take them by using CSS to put an icon after the hyperlink, dependant upon it's type. The results, at this stage, are here: http://wallishamilton.com/code/ext-links-example.html (validates) The CSS file: http://wallishamilton.com/code/screen.css doesn't validate, I get the error Combinator *= between selectors is not allowed in this profile or version Combinator ^= between selectors is not allowed in this profile or version Is there another way, any pointers would be appreciated. Of course the simple answer may be to simply use a different DTD. But I'm trying hard to switch to strict. Ben Hamilton. http://wallishamilton.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Styling a href with CSS
I've tried what Amit has suggested, but the main problem is that I get a
CSS validation error.
Files are here:
http://wallishamilton.com/code/amit-1.html
http://wallishamilton.com/code/amit-1.css
These probably better demonstrate the vailidation issue (less
surrounding clutter).
How can I use a method similar to these, that validates?
Ben.
Amit Karmakar wrote:
a[href^=mailto:;] {
background: transparent url('path/to/aemail.gif') 100% 50% no-repeat;
padding-right: 10px;
}
div.content a[href^=http:] {
background: transparent url('path/to/aoutside.gif') 100% 50% no-repeat;
padding-right: 10px;
}
div.content a[href^=http://yourwebsite.com;],
div.content a[href^=http://www.yourwebsite.com;] {
background: inherit;
padding-right: 0px;
}
This might help?
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:29:35 +1000, Ben Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got annoyed with links not being what I expected. And started to
figure a way to let people know where links on my site are going to take
them by using CSS to put an icon after the hyperlink, dependant upon
it's type.
The results, at this stage, are here:
http://wallishamilton.com/code/ext-links-example.html (validates)
The CSS file:
http://wallishamilton.com/code/screen.css
doesn't validate, I get the error
Combinator *= between selectors is not allowed in this profile or version
Combinator ^= between selectors is not allowed in this profile or version
Is there another way, any pointers would be appreciated.
Of course the simple answer may be to simply use a different DTD. But
I'm trying hard to switch to strict.
Ben Hamilton.
http://wallishamilton.com/
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Re: [WSG] Styling a href with CSS
Terrence Wood wrote: if you are using the w3c validator, try the advanced settings and validate against the css3 profile. Which is where your selector comes from, see: http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/CR-css3-selectors-2003/ http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css3uri=http%3A//wallishamilton.com/code/amit-1.html validates fine. Thanks Terrence, simply a matter of validating against the correct CSS type, CSS3. :-) thanks. Ben. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Duplicate navigation?
Thanks Neerav, via the link you gave, I found http://www.wdvl.com/Internet/ContentManagement/server_side.html to quote part of it (talking about SSI) A preferable solution is one where the entire page is generated by a single process, preferably a process which is persistent - it starts running when the server is started, rather than being run again each time the page is viewed. FastCGI, ASP, Server-side Java, PhP and ColdFusion are examples of technologies which are better for building a fully dynamic site. Since my server supports PHP, I'll follow that route. Thanks, Ben. Neerav wrote: As long as you use classes and not id's for the div and content within it, than its easy to display it twice using a server side include - http://www.wdvl.com/Authoring/SSI/ Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Ben Hamilton wrote: Hi all, I'm wondering if this is possible: to have content inside of a div displayed in two places on my page? That is, to specify some content once only, but have it display twice on a single page? Is it possible? If so, is it sematicly correct? My use for this is navigation. It would mean I could specify my navigation in one place i.e. div id=navigation.../div and have it display once under my branding at the top of the page, and again at the bottom of the page, using a class to change the way it displays. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Duplicate navigation?
Hi all, I'm wondering if this is possible: to have content inside of a div displayed in two places on my page? That is, to specify some content once only, but have it display twice on a single page? Is it possible? If so, is it sematicly correct? My use for this is navigation. It would mean I could specify my navigation in one place i.e. div id=navigation.../div and have it display once under my branding at the top of the page, and again at the bottom of the page, using a class to change the way it displays. Ta, Ben. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] how so I stop all the postings coming to my email box?
Richard Czeiger wrote: no secret handshake?! I'm outta here! ;oP Richard handshake class=secretIt's a standard that only members get :-)/handshake Ben. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] timezone other than GMT+10?
Hi all, I'm working on my own site at the moment. I want to ensure that the php code I've just implemented actually works. On visiting http://wallishamilton.com/ in the righthand side bar, it should say I'm not at work at the moment. If there is someone in a time zone where it is between 9am and 5pm, could you please check it for me? ta. The php code I'm using is code ?php $h=date(H); if ($h=9 and $h = 17) echo Feel free to call or sms me right now.; else echo I'm not at work at the moment.; ? /code -- Ben Hamilton 0410 460 333 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links
The method your using looks similar to the one described on A List Apart
www.a*list**apart*.com/articles/taming*list*s/ ?? or it could have come
from http://glazkov.com/blog/articles/CssPipedList.aspx
I have an example at http://hamilton.id.au/temp/pipedlist.html using
multiple words per item.
Ben Hamilton.
Richard Czeiger wrote:
Sure but this only works on, like, two browsers!
Is there a funckier CSS hack kind of way?
:o)
Richard
- Original Message -
*From:* Kevin Futter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 05, 2004 12:02 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links
For the line wrapping issue, you could try:
whitespace: nowrap;
On whatever element is giving you trouble.
Cheers,
Kevin Futter
On 5/10/04 11:28 AM, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I'm putting together a semantically correct UL of links for my
footer.
I'd like to have them separated by 'pipes' as this is a common
and easily recognised technique.
But the pipes themselves are irrelevant (semantically). So
here's what I've come up with...
ALSO! My one thing is that if the text inside the links is
made up of two or more words, then they get pushed to separate
lines. Is there a way to avoid this without specifying a width
or without putting a 'no broken spaces' between the words?
Can you suggest anything better?
style type=text/css
#footer {
text-align: center;
}
#footer ul li {
display: inline; width: 1px;
margin: auto 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: 1px solid
#00;
line-height: 120%;
}
#footer ul li:first-child { border-left: none; }
/* Not rendered by a few agents, so we'll use the
'footerBorderKill' javascript function switches off the first
child's left border */
/style
div id=footer
ul id =contentLinks
lia href=link1.html title=Link 1
accesskey=1link/a/li
lia href=link2.html title=Link 2 accesskey=2link
with multiple words/a/li
lia href=link3.html title=Link 3
accesskey=3link/a/li
lia href=link4.html title=Link 4
accesskey=4linknbsp;withnbsp;NoBrokenSpaces/a/li
lia href=link5.html title=Link 5
accesskey=5link/a/li
/ul
ul id=validationLinks
lia href=http://validator.w3.org/check/referer;
rel=external title=Check XHTMLxhtml/a/li
lia
href=http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer;
rel=external title=Check CSScss/a/li
lia
href=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/;
rel=external title=View licensecc/a/li
/ul
/div
script type=text/javascript//![CDATA[
// Kills the Left Border on the Footer Navigation
function footerBorderKill() {
myBody=document.getElementById('footer');
myBodyElements=myBody.getElementsByTagName(ul); // Gets all
the UL elements that are children of 'footer'
for( var i = 0; i myBodyElements.length; i++ ) {
myList=myBodyElements.item(i); // Loops through all the ULs
in the footer
myListElements=myList.getElementsByTagName(li); // Gets
all the LI elements that are children of the ULs
myLI=myListElements.item(0); // Gets the first item of the
list of LI elements
myLI.style.borderLeft = 'none'; // And sets its border to
nothing
}
}
window.onload = footerBorderKill;
//]]/script
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