[WSG] Oracle/Peoplesoft and accessibility/standard code

[Jesse Rodgers]

Hi,

I am getting the total run around here from developers on 
Oracle/Peoplesoft and I was hoping someone on this list could help. My 
couple questions:


- Does anyone know of an accessible PeopleSoft built application?
- Has the issue of PeopleSoft generated code been an issue or is the 
responsibility that of the company using it?
- Does anyone know if, besides white papers, Oracle/PeopleSoft are 
actually working on standard code that is accessible?

- How customizable is the HTML PeopleSoft spits out?

Thanks ahead of time...

Jesse

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Re: [WSG] Oracle/Peoplesoft and accessibility/standard code

[Jesse Rodgers]

Hey,

Oh the code is horrid. No question. What I am being told is that 
Peoplesoft/Oracle are *working on it* and there is nothing the developer 
using the tools can do.


Drill down into a discussion with a development team and you find out 
that if they do change the way the HTML is then when/if they upgrade 
everything breaks. So I am told.


What I am looking for is a case where: (a) people have an accessible 
deployment or (b) people have been forced to ditch it because of 
accessibility. I am hoping for (a) cause you can't convince a Peoplesoft 
developer that what they are using is essentially a dated tool set that 
is a throwback to 1996... and with the amount they make consulting I can 
see why. According to them: It is all powerful, does all things, nothing 
can handle the loads it does (it chokes on 5000 or less simultaneous 
users) and nothing can touch it.


But really its just a tool that generates SQL and code for the front end 
in a visual authoring environment... There are (or was) a lot of uni's 
using it as they had some big add blitz in the late 90's promising all 
things to all people with regards to admissions, someone must have some 
idea ;)


Jesse

James Ellis wrote:

Hi

You could try running it through HTML tidy... or maybe you could write 
your own frontend to their backend?


Do you have some example pages?

Cheers
James

On 12/3/05, *Jesse Rodgers* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I am getting the total run around here from developers on
Oracle/Peoplesoft and I was hoping someone on this list could help. My
couple questions:

- Does anyone know of an accessible PeopleSoft built application?
- Has the issue of PeopleSoft generated code been an issue or is the
responsibility that of the company using it?
- Does anyone know if, besides white papers, Oracle/PeopleSoft are
actually working on standard code that is accessible?
- How customizable is the HTML PeopleSoft spits out?

Thanks ahead of time...

Jesse


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Re: [WSG] DW 8 standards

[Jesse Rodgers]

It's actually great that Macromedia has been so committed to web standards and 
so responsive to their beta testers. WaSP has made Stephanie Sullivan and Jesse 
Rodgers Dreamweaver Task Force members so they can continue working with MM on 
the standards issue.



Hopefully soon the dwtf will have a site up that goes over some of the 
standards-friendliness of DW 8 and some things to watch for (like the 
Halo design template)...


Are there any stand out issues with DW 8 and standards (rendering, code 
creation, how it validates, etc)?


Jesse

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