Re: [WSG] Discussion Threading
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: Are there any mail clients that will automatically thread discussions? I use news groups regularly and comparatively the discussion list is very annoying and cumbersome. Mozilla Thunderbird. View Sort by Threaded Note: When somebody doesn't 'Reply to' a post (meaning, they just hit 'New' and copy the Subject, the msg will not show threaded. But for the most part, people in the know do this. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] AOHell
On 9/28/04 7:08 PM Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: AOL browser is uses the IE engine, does it not? Yes. Most home users using Windows would still be using the IE driven version of the AOL browser (not sure about Mac). One thing worth considering when developing for AOL is the way it handles images. Over slower connections AOL will convert the JPG format into the more compressed ART file format for faster download speeds. IE by itself doesn't do this, of course. So, it's not enough just to say just test in IE, since it's rendering engine is IE, which I once thought. That approach comes with a caveat. You have to actually test on an AOL account to really see any affect of this (or any other) behavior (versus just running a local AOL browser, which I did for years). For the type of sites most members of the list are building (XHTML/CSS with optimized imagery, etc.), I doubt it's much different. But every time I visit my mother-in-law (she 60), and I want to sneak away and check the golf scores, Dominey's Flash-based jpg import at the top of pga.com/openchampionship/2003/ or /2004 doesn't render. Never has. But I still get the scores (which are good ol' html). -Tim ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] AOHell
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: If you're really, really committed (or just masochistic) to testing it, but want to avoid having to actually get an AOL account, you can also run your own server http://www.aolserver.com/ and do testing on your local setup under true battle conditions...either that, or you have an secret desire to delve into Tcl development ;) I stand corrected on this point! Thanks for the tip, Patrick. I'll look into this. -Tim ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] aDesigner
Has anyone had a chance to try IBM's aDesigner, and if so, what are your thoughts? Tim * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Tim Berners-Lee - Keeping Web Universal
Stephanie wrote: There are next page and prev page links further down as well as a 1 | 2 link -- but -- those don't work either if you don't have javascript enabled. I was really just trying to point out some mainstream coverage of what is probably familiar to most on the list--not to draw attention to the shortcomings of the site. There is a tinge of irony to reporting about Keeping the Web Universal on a site that *requires* Javascript. While we're on the subject, I don't think this approach degrades gracefully without JS (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). To their defense, this is a rather dated design, going back several years...at least that's how long I remember reading it. It predates any significant Web standards movement, I think. The Clippings feature has always been a really nice way to save a quick list of what you want to read, in case you're interrupted or don't have time at the moment (which was nice prior to the days of RSS feeds). To me, that feature would still be consistent with a standards-based approach because it's a nice-to-have/nice-to-use. But the this site requires javascript (especially just to navigate an article) is a no-go, IMO. Tim * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Tim Berners-Lee - Keeping Web Universal
Thought this might interest the group: http://www.iht.com/articles/525584.html * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Flow from bottom?
russ weakley wrote:
One method - not tested but in theory:
Place the content inside a container, and apply absolute positioning to the
container:
#contaner {position: absolute; left: 20px; bottom: 20px;}
The container will set at the bottom of the viewport or its containing box
and the content will flow up rather than down.
Russ
I was lurking and took the liberty of trying this, and the content
indeed stuck to the bottom of it's container. However, once the window
was resized smaller (vertically), a scollbar would not appear. So the
top-most content moved up and cut off at the top of the browser. Any
ideas on how to prevent the top content from cutting off?
-Tim
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