[WSG] APC Article on Web Standards
Has anyone read the opinion article in APC Magazine regarding Web Standards? (I haven't) It gets a brief mention here: http://www.apcmag.com/apc/v3.nsf/dir/latest Apparently its a bit scathing of them, but not having read it I can't really comment. -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just came across this... http://www.scotconnect.com/webtypography/index.php Nick * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] APC Article on Web Standards
Cameron Adams wrote: Has anyone read the opinion article in APC Magazine regarding Web Standards? (I haven't) Now I have. Page 26 (for Aussies and Kiwis on the list). Guy by the name of David Emberton in the Opinion section. He's touted as a professional web developer, and has written a couple of books about Flash. Basic line... Web standards were created by intellectuals, they don't work, the browser wars are over, MS doesn't care, the disabled are used as a moral lever to get us to adopt web standards but the real world/market doesn't care. He is prepared to admit that XHTML and CSS have been 'at least moderately successful', but points out that SMIL, MathML, SVG and other W3C projects are pretty much dead in the water. Reading between the lines... 'I tried it, couldn't get it to work, and I want my life back'. -Hugh * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] APC Article on Web Standards
Hi I wonder what the disabled would have to say about that. The very word disabled is a label stuck on people that a society deem to be deficient in some way, sourced from the term bad ability' - it's a disabling effect. I'd hate to be called a lever, it would be very disabling. And of course, the people described below could never be part of the real world, could they? Of course it's our job to break down the barriers imposed by technology and ignorance and give/promote access to all which is done by promoting and using a base standard of code. It's very special, given that when I saw Emberton presenting at Flashkit01 he was having trouble using a laptop that was not running his preferred OS. Accessibility, anyone? Regards James Hugh Todd wrote: Cameron Adams wrote: Has anyone read the opinion article in APC Magazine regarding Web Standards? (I haven't) Now I have. Page 26 (for Aussies and Kiwis on the list). Guy by the name of David Emberton in the Opinion section. He's touted as a professional web developer, and has written a couple of books about Flash. Basic line... Web standards were created by intellectuals, they don't work, the browser wars are over, MS doesn't care, the disabled are used as a moral lever to get us to adopt web standards but the real world/market doesn't care. He is prepared to admit that XHTML and CSS have been 'at least moderately successful', but points out that SMIL, MathML, SVG and other W3C projects are pretty much dead in the water. Reading between the lines... 'I tried it, couldn't get it to work, and I want my life back'. -Hugh * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] APC Article on Web Standards
Hugh ditto on between the line... Biased people who use such comments against reasons for standards they do not understand or care about, are myopic at best. They couldn't see a fly, if it landed on their nose. ;-) Leo On Tuesday, March 23, 2004, at 08:05 PM, Hugh Todd wrote: Cameron Adams wrote: Has anyone read the opinion article in APC Magazine regarding Web Standards? (I haven't) Now I have. Page 26 (for Aussies and Kiwis on the list). Guy by the name of David Emberton in the Opinion section. He's touted as a professional web developer, and has written a couple of books about Flash. Basic line... Web standards were created by intellectuals, they don't work, the browser wars are over, MS doesn't care, the disabled are used as a moral lever to get us to adopt web standards but the real world/market doesn't care. He is prepared to admit that XHTML and CSS have been 'at least moderately successful', but points out that SMIL, MathML, SVG and other W3C projects are pretty much dead in the water. Reading between the lines... 'I tried it, couldn't get it to work, and I want my life back'. -Hugh * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
