[WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Joyce Evans
Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far:

 

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html

 

So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal navigation
links do not center but rather move to the right so that I don't see the
full Contact link.

 

In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div.
There is some additional white space (from the background color).

 

Could anyone please help.  I seem to do fine with CSS when the navigation is
vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when the navigation is
horizontal.

 

Thank you,

Joyce

 

 



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[WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

I am out of office until Tue 13th August and will respond to your email on my 
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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Ryan Moore
In your CSS

change to this:

#nav ul {
margin: 0px 35px 0 35px;
padding: 5px 0 0 0;
text-align: center;
}

this works in FF 2 but note it has not been tested in IE.

RM

On 8/10/07, Joyce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far:



 http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html



 So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal navigation
 links do not center but rather move to the right so that I don't see the
 full Contact link.



 In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div.
 There is some additional white space (from the background color).



 Could anyone please help.  I seem to do fine with CSS when the navigation
 is vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when the navigation
 is horizontal.



 Thank you,

 Joyce





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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

I am out of office until Tue 13th August and will respond to your email on my 
return.

Best Regards,
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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

I am out of office until Tue 13th August and will respond to your email on my 
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Best Regards,
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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread E Michael Brandt

For the mneimanlogo image

img{display:block} should do it.


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Joyce Evans wrote:

Thanks so much for the information to make this appear correctly in FF 2!

 

Now if someone has a clue why the page header div won’t sit right on top 
of the nav div but rather splits (showing some of the white background) 
while viewing in IE6, that would be great!


 


Joyce



*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
*On Behalf Of *Ryan Moore

*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2007 12:35 PM
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

 


In your CSS

change to this:

#nav ul {
margin: 0px 35px 0 35px;
padding: 5px 0 0 0;
text-align: center;
}

this works in FF 2 but note it has not been tested in IE.

RM

On 8/10/07, *Joyce Evans* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far:

 

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html 
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html


 

So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal 
navigation links do not center but rather move to the right so that I 
don't see the full Contact link.


 

In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div.  
There is some additional white space (from the background color).


 

Could anyone please help.  I seem to do fine with CSS when the 
navigation is vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when 
the navigation is horizontal.


 


Thank you,

Joyce

 

 



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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

I am out of office until Tue 13th August and will respond to your email on my 
return.

Best Regards,
Ruairi



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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Add to Ryans change in the css below, that you have no spaces in the code
for the header like this:

div id=pageHeaderimg
src=http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/images/mneiman_logo.jpg;
alt=Melissa Neiman width=700 height=143 //div

Then I think you should be good to go

  Regards
   ~Veine

 In your CSS

 change to this:

 #nav ul {
 margin: 0px 35px 0 35px;
 padding: 5px 0 0 0;
 text-align: center;
 }

 this works in FF 2 but note it has not been tested in IE.

 RM

 On 8/10/07, Joyce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far:



 http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html



 So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal
 navigation
 links do not center but rather move to the right so that I don't see the
 full Contact link.



 In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div.
 There is some additional white space (from the background color).



 Could anyone please help.  I seem to do fine with CSS when the
 navigation
 is vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when the
 navigation
 is horizontal.



 Thank you,

 Joyce





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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Joyce Evans
And I should include the asterisk (*) as part of the code you gave me below?
Thank you.

 

Joyce

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Moore
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:22 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

 

Hi Joyce,

While this may/may not help resolve your issue, i recommend adding this to
the beginning of your stylesheet.

* {
padding:0;
margin:0;
}

it will set the default margins and padding for all elements to 0.  You
would then have to specify margins and paddings for all elements, it gives
you more control over the layout as some browsers are known to have
different default margins and paddings for elements. 

RM

On 8/10/07, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Joyce Evans wrote:
 http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html

 So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal 
 navigation links do not center but rather move to the right so that I
 don't see the full Contact link.

Add...
ul {padding: 0;}
...to zero out Gecko's defaults on that list. 

Nothing prevents that menu from getting skewed from font resizing though.

 In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav
 div. There is some additional white space (from the background 
 color).

Add...
#pageHeader img {display: block;}
...to override the 'display: inline' default for that image.

regards
Georg
--
http://www.gunlaug.no  http://www.gunlaug.no 


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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

I am out of office until Tue 13th August and will respond to your email on my 
return.

Best Regards,
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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Joyce Evans
Thanks to all!  Everything works now.
 
Joyce

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gunlaug Sørtun
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:08 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

Joyce Evans wrote:
 http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html

 So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal
 navigation links do not center but rather move to the right so that I
 don't see the full Contact link.

Add...
ul {padding: 0;}
...to zero out Gecko's defaults on that list.

Nothing prevents that menu from getting skewed from font resizing though.

 In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav
 div. There is some additional white space (from the background
 color).

Add...
#pageHeader img {display: block;}
...to override the 'display: inline' default for that image.

regards
Georg
-- 
http://www.gunlaug.no


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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Joyce Evans
Good stuff!

 

Thanks!  Sorry about all of the thanks, but you guys are amazing.  I just
learned a lot!

 

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:19 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

 

Hi Joyce,

 

Try defaulting all the element margin and padding settings to zero. You can
do this by adding the following to your CSS file:

 

* {

MARGIN: 0;

PADDING: 0;

}

 

This should take care of the Mozilla problem. Also, I noticed you have white
text over a grey background image for your navigation menu. For people who
have their images turned off, this will end up as white text on a white
background. Try setting the BACKGROUND-COLOR: #999; in #nav to fix this.

 

Regards,

Kepler Gelotte

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joyce Evans
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:22 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

 

Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far:

 

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html

 

So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal navigation
links do not center but rather move to the right so that I don't see the
full Contact link.

 

In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div.
There is some additional white space (from the background color).

 

Could anyone please help.  I seem to do fine with CSS when the navigation is
vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when the navigation is
horizontal.

 

Thank you,

Joyce

 

 


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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

I am out of office until Tue 13th August and will respond to your email on my 
return.

Best Regards,
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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

I am out of office until Tue 13th August and will respond to your email on my 
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Best Regards,
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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread rdoyle
Hi,

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Best Regards,
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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Ryan Moore
Hi Joyce,

While this may/may not help resolve your issue, i recommend adding this to
the beginning of your stylesheet.

* {
padding:0;
margin:0;
}

it will set the default margins and padding for all elements to 0.  You
would then have to specify margins and paddings for all elements, it gives
you more control over the layout as some browsers are known to have
different default margins and paddings for elements.

RM

On 8/10/07, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joyce Evans wrote:
  http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html

  So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal
  navigation links do not center but rather move to the right so that I
  don't see the full Contact link.

 Add...
 ul {padding: 0;}
 ...to zero out Gecko's defaults on that list.

 Nothing prevents that menu from getting skewed from font resizing though.

  In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav
  div. There is some additional white space (from the background
  color).

 Add...
 #pageHeader img {display: block;}
 ...to override the 'display: inline' default for that image.

 regards
 Georg
 --
 http://www.gunlaug.no


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RE: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Joyce Evans
Thanks so much for the information to make this appear correctly in FF 2!

 

Now if someone has a clue why the page header div won't sit right on top of
the nav div but rather splits (showing some of the white background) while
viewing in IE6, that would be great!

 

Joyce

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Moore
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:35 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

 

In your CSS

change to this:

#nav ul {
margin: 0px 35px 0 35px;
padding: 5px 0 0 0;
text-align: center;
}

this works in FF 2 but note it has not been tested in IE.

RM

On 8/10/07, Joyce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far:

 

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html 

 

So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal navigation
links do not center but rather move to the right so that I don't see the
full Contact link.

 

In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div.
There is some additional white space (from the background color).

 

Could anyone please help.  I seem to do fine with CSS when the navigation is
vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when the navigation is
horizontal.

 

Thank you,

Joyce

 

 


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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Joyce Evans wrote:

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html



So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal
navigation links do not center but rather move to the right so that I
don't see the full Contact link.


Add...
ul {padding: 0;}
...to zero out Gecko's defaults on that list.

Nothing prevents that menu from getting skewed from font resizing though.


In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav
div. There is some additional white space (from the background
color).


Add...
#pageHeader img {display: block;}
...to override the 'display: inline' default for that image.

regards
Georg
--
http://www.gunlaug.no


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[WSG] css problem - navigation bar

2005-06-15 Thread hunter_c




Hi
I realise you may all 
become frustrated with first time web site 
developers' problems, but please know that I'd really appreciate any 
help you may be able to provide. 


I'm developing my first 
site - trying to teach myself css - and have 
encountered some browser incompatablity mostly regarding my 
navigation bar that seems to be messing things up. I've tried fiddling 
with the css, but can't seem to resolve the problem. 

My site is at 
http://studentweb.usq.edu.au/home/w0011373/


The navigation bar is just the way I want it on Firefox and Netscape, 
but in IE the submenus don't appear. It uses 'active' and sub active' 
in the css / html. Any ideas on a way around? 


There's also the problem 
of the positioning of the nav bar. In Firefox 
and Netscape it positions where I want it in the container. In IE and 
Opera it positions to the very left, which makes it too close to the 
centre column. I didn't realise this was the problem until I changed 
the background to a different colour to the page background so I 
could see what was happening. Any ideas on how to fix it? 


Here's the css code (external) 
for the nav bar. 



/*style for main navigation 
bar*/


#navlist{
list-style-type: none;
background-color: #ff;
font-family: Courier, 
Courier New, monospace;
font-size: .8em;
text-align:left;
letter-spacing: 1px;
text-decoration: none;
margin-left: 5px;
}




#active:hover li { 
display: block; 
}


#active li { 
display: none; }


#subactive:hover li { 
display: block; 
}


#subactive li { 
display: none; }


#navcontainer
{
top: 0px;
width: 200px;
margin: 0px;
voice-family: \}\;
voice-family:inherit;
width: 120px;
padding-right: 10px;
padding-bottom: 0px;
padding-left: 0px;
padding-top: 0px;
}




#navcontainer a
{
border-top: 2px #dad6ca 
solid;
right: 10px;
color: gray;
width: 120px;
display: block;
padding-top: 5px;
padding-bottom: 5px;}


#navcontainer a:visited
{
color: gray;
background-color: #ff;}


#navcontainer a:active
{
color: red;
background-color: #fbfbae;
}


#navcontainer a:hover
{
color: #FF9900;
background-color: #d0;
}


==

If you can shed light on this, it will really help. I'm quite frustrated at 
the moment at not being able to resolve it by myself, despite many 
many attempts. Any other suggestions for glaringly obvious 
mistakes I've made would be most appreciated. 


Thanks in advance
Carole


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[WSG] CSS problem solving

2004-10-11 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hi all,
I have been noticing more CSS questions coming onto the list. This is all
cool. One of our main aims is to help developers move towards web
standards/best practice.

However, if you are just getting into CSS it might be worth your time
reading a few CSS classic articles:

Position is everything:
1. http://positioniseverything.net/articles/mys-bug.html
2. http://positioniseverything.net/articles/common.html
(Worth reading ALL their articles!)

Mezzoblue
1. http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/03/10/css_problems/
2. http://www.mezzoblue.com/css/cribsheet/

Andy Budd:
1.  
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2003/12/css_crib_sheet_1_gaps_between_verti
cal_nav_elements_in_ie5/index.php
2. 
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2003/12/css_crib_sheet_2_clearing_floats/in
dex.php
3. 
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/02/css_crib_sheet_3_centering_a_div/in
dex.php

I'm sure there are many others...
Thanks
Russ

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RE: [WSG] CSS problem solving

2004-10-11 Thread cssaddict
Hi,
Actually CSS is the main reason I joined here. Since I am teaching
myself how to do all of this, I try to join where the information is
reported to be excellent.

Here is another excellent link for css information.

http://westciv.com/

[cssaddict] aka Debbie


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Re:[WSG] CSS problem solving

2004-10-11 Thread Lyn Patterson




Thanks, Russ - yes, there are some great articles
around and I have printed out so many and bookmarked so many it is
hard to keep track. I find that as a beginner to CSS the main problem
is actually recognising just what each problem is. Sometimes when
something doesn't work as one expects it is hard to know just where to
start the search for what is wrong. Keep reading, I suppose and if that
doesn't turn up an answer, then post here.

Lyn Patterson





Re: [WSG] CSS problem solving

2004-10-11 Thread Trovster
Here are all my resources I use so far...

http://www.trovster.com/resources.html

Still with a lot to sort out...!!


On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:13:40 +0800, Lyn Patterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks, Russ - yes, there are some great articles around  and I have
 printed out so many and bookmarked so many it is hard to keep track. I find
 that as a beginner to CSS the main problem is actually recognising just what
  each problem is.  Sometimes when something doesn't work as one expects it
 is hard to know just where to start the search for what is wrong. Keep
 reading, I suppose and if that doesn't turn up an answer, then post here.
  
  Lyn Patterson
  


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RE: [WSG] CSS problem solving

2004-10-11 Thread David McDonald
These links have now been added to the Resources section of the Web
Standards Group website, under 'CSS Browser Bugs and Problems' at:

http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat23

There are many more CSS resources here as well:

CSS General Resources: http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat11

CSS Layout Resources: http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat10

CSS Tutorials: http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat24

Also, feel free to add your own links to the Resources pages, as
that's what they're there for.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] CSS problem solving
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:20:01 +1000

Hi all,
I have been noticing more CSS questions coming onto the list. This is
all
cool. One of our main aims is to help developers move towards web
standards/best practice.

However, if you are just getting into CSS it might be worth your time
reading a few CSS classic articles:

Position is everything:
1. http://positioniseverything.net/articles/mys-bug.html
2. http://positioniseverything.net/articles/common.html
(Worth reading ALL their articles!)

Mezzoblue
1. http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/03/10/css_problems/
2. http://www.mezzoblue.com/css/cribsheet/

Andy Budd:
1.  
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2003/12/css_crib_sheet_1_gaps_betwee
n_verti
cal_nav_elements_in_ie5/index.php
2. 
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2003/12/css_crib_sheet_2_clearing_fl
oats/in
dex.php
3. 
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/02/css_crib_sheet_3_centering_a
_div/in
dex.php

I'm sure there are many others...
Thanks
Russ

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Re: [WSG] CSS problem

2004-04-09 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Veine

I do this all the time in Mac. It looks as though your page is working 
now with it in Mac IE5.2. It's all about floating and sizing it 
properly. All Mac IE bugs are usually easy to fix. For the future IMO 
you should design the layout using colored boxes and dummy text until 
you know its right, bug fixes and all, and then add your content. This 
way the content won't be getting in your way.

Leo


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[WSG] CSS problem

2004-04-08 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Hello;

Can someone take a look at this page:
http://vikberg.net/IAMU
 and suggest how I best separate the blue links from the white content 
area so it doesn't 'hog' the line?

  TIA
~Veine
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Re: [WSG] CSS problem

2004-04-08 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Thank you, appreciated :o) However, no solution to my original problem, I 
think the box not expanding is just an oversight on my part not to use 
clearing div's :o)

*Note to self, check out Mac platform too!

   :o)
~Veine
At 02:01 PM 4/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Veine,

Just wanted to let u know that in Mac OSX/IE 5.2 the body copy overflows 
the bottom blue footer bar...

screenshot attached (I know it's small but I didn't want to hog everyone's 
email).

later,
Z
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Re: [WSG] CSS problem

2004-04-08 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Veine

Your left col div is containing your center div you should close the 
the left div before you open the center div ...

e.g

 div class=leftcolleftcol-content/div
 div class=centercenter-content/div
and not

 div class=leftcolleftcol-content
 div class=centercenter-content/div
/div
as you have it now

Leo

On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 06:26  AM, Veine K Vikberg wrote:

Will;

Thanks for the suggestion, I did it and it seems to add a little to 
separate in IE6 WinXP Home at least, however, in NS (Moz RC1) it does 
not,... I am running out of ideas here.

As for the suggestion, note taken and should probably not be h4's but 
I was thinking search engine work ahead of time so to speak, as it 
seems to be indexing way more h4's then lists, I will probably change 
this.

Any other suggestion to see if I can get it to separate?

At 01:23 PM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:

To answer your question directly, add a right margin to your h4 tags 
in your
style sheet:

H4 {margin-right: 10px;}

To answer your question with a suggestion, don't use h4's for your nav
links.  Rather, use an unordered list to gain better control over 
their
display and establish better semantics in your markup:

ul
lilink 1/li
lilink2/li
/ul
For a great example, read A List Apart's Taming Lists at
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/
Will Chatham

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