RE: [WSG] IE6 not shrinking space at pure dom explorer list trouble

2005-09-22 Thread Paul Bennett
Hi Isabel,

Firstly your request was a *whole lot* for us list members to take in, hence 
the lack of responses.

Secondly, the list is fine for me in IE6 (Windows XP, Service Pack 2).

The list is expanded as the page loads, the script then seems to load which 
collapses the list. The images below the list then move up into the space, just 
as they do in FFox.

What version of IE are you using? Operating system?

Paul
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Re: [WSG] IE6 not shrinking space at pure dom explorer list trouble

2005-09-22 Thread Isabel Santos
Thank you very mutch for the answer Paul, 
I thought it had gone unnoticedin the middle ofall other messages.
Sory I make them so long and confusing.

I think I didn't explain it very well:

Since the thumbnail gallery is absolutely positioned, what goes all the way down until after the previously ocupied by the lists space, is the footer.
It goes so far one doesn't even notices it.

You can see some reduced size screen shots from that page, rendered in Firefox 1.06 and IE6 sp2, at a screen resolution of1280x960px (actually overlaping print screens to show the pages full lenght)at:
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/prinscreens.htm
Thank you abain,

Isabel Santos
On 9/22/05, Isabel Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




The sites test pages is at:
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/(background displaying fine)

http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/galeria/portfolio.htm
(troubled page)
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/default.css(basic css)

http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/standardbrowsers.css
(site wide css)
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/especifica1.css
(pure dom'slist and gallery's css) 
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/pde.js
(pure dom explorers script) 


...
But although for latest Opera and Firefox things get preety well presented, IE seams not to regain the space it saves when the list is shrinked uppon the script loading, so it leaves a continuos spacecorrespondent to the lenght it would ocupye if the list was all opened, and messing up that spaces backgrounds. 

...


thank you very mutch for your time,

Isabel Santos


[WSG] IE6 not shrinking space at pure dom explorer list trouble

2005-09-21 Thread Isabel Santos
(similar message sent to css discuss list)
Hi all,

I'm afraid I've not been able to grab time toreadmost my lists messages during the lasts months, nor to answer any, pardon me please, but I'm getting kind of desperate on this new challenge, so I'm turning on to you :):


I'm designing a site for a graphic company, still in the process of showing up the possibilities to the client, still testing just in IE6 pc, latest Opera and latest Firefox and getting already frustrated for not being able to tame IE.


The sites test pages is at:
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/(background displaying fine)
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/galeria/portfolio.htm(troubled page)
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/default.css(basic css)
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/standardbrowsers.css(site wide css)
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/especifica1.css(pure dom'slist and gallery's css)

http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/lib/pde.js(pure dom explorers script)


The simpler pages are displaying fairly ok, but atthe page
http://unbound.no.sapo.pt/decoder/galeria/portfolio.htmI decided to use an unordered using the pure dom explorer from Christian Heilmann presented at http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/puredom/
, a script I findtruely elegant, and a thumbnail gallery following the example ofStu Nichollsin http://www.webreference.com/programming/css_gallery/index.html
, and things are getting realy messy.

I was able to avoid the absolutly positioned listfrom jumping over the tree pure dom list using a content stretching div bitween them, witch meens if the script isn't loaded, the list comes all the way down before the thumbnail gallery without destroying the structure for the Gello Layout (built uppon the Mike Purvis's genius idea described at 
http://positioniseverything.net/articles/jello-expo.htmlwitchcalls fora relatively positioned wrapper div).

But although for latest Opera and Firefox things get preety well presented, IE seams not to regain the space it saves when the list is shrinked uppon the script loading, so it leaves a continuos spacecorrespondent to the lenght it would ocupye if the list was all opened, and messing up that spaces backgrounds.


I might considera different design, with a diferent kind oflist, eventually one usinghoversbut right now I really intend to solve this issue.

Since I cannot defined a maximum height for the list or any of its wrappers in IE, I presume it is not possible to use css to fix the list after the script is applied. (is this true?) I thought of the Peter-Paul Koch'sstructure used in the Three column stretching article at 
http://www.quirksmode.org/but it seams toundergo the samedifficulty with IE: it stretches, but it doesn't shrinks.
Maybe I could make the script calculate the needed height and pull things up after the domsnodes generation, say like reloading the page without reloading the script or something?(is this remotly possible? I'm still assuming simples styles application wont work.)

IE loads other structures using similar principles quite well; for instance, http://www.alistapart.com/d/eatcake/final.html(let them eat the cake's article) also uses 
style.display:none and style.display:block based functions uppon scripts loading, altoughtat div structures, and I see no extra spaces stretching heights. What am I missing?Does this has anything to do with using a ul?

And finally, is there a valid reason for this not to be working, because of some stupid mistake, or because it is simply incompatible with IE6 pc, period?

Ansiously looking forward for clues,
thank you very mutch for your time,

Isabel Santos