Re: [WSG] New website launch
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 00:20:04 +0100, Ian Fenn wrote: I've launched my first website using web standards for a client: http://www.housedoctor.co.uk/ Checking the website in browsercam: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=98657 ...it doesn't seem to be rendering quite right in IE5 or IE5.5 in Windows 2000. It's also a bit screwy in Opera 6.0 on the Mac. In Firefox (1.0PR) and Mozilla (1.7.2) on WinXP no horizontal scroll bars appear when the page exceeds the browser window (Opera 7.2.3 and IE6 seem fine). This seems weird to me as the layout uses a fixed width centred div of 700px and html has min-width:700px specified + there's an extra div#mozscroll which is also 700px so the browser really ought to add scrollbars when its width falls below 700px ... or am I misinterpreting min-width? Any ideas anyone? James ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New website launch
This seems weird to me as the layout uses a fixed width centred div of 700px and html has min-width:700px specified + there's an extra div#mozscroll which is also 700px so the browser really ought to add scrollbars when its width falls below 700px ... or am I misinterpreting min-width? Any ideas anyone? James That wort of seems like beating a dead horse right there. If something has width:700px;, declaring min-width:700px; defeats the purpose. min-width is the maximum allowed shrinkage a site will allow with a resized browser window *before* it will not shrink further and adds in scrollbars. To be effwctive in this case, the min-width would need to be a smaller value than 700px. As for div#mozscroll, it doesn't sound absolutely necessary to be there. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New website launch
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:08:29 -0400, Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This seems weird to me as the layout uses a fixed width centred div of
700px and html has min-width:700px specified + there's an extra
div#mozscroll which is also 700px so the browser really ought to add
scrollbars when its width falls below 700px
James
That wort of seems like beating a dead horse right there. If something
has width:700px;, declaring min-width:700px; defeats the purpose.
min-width is the maximum allowed shrinkage a site will allow with a
resized browser window *before* it will not shrink further and adds in
scrollbars. To be effwctive in this case, the min-width would need to be
a smaller value than 700px.
Making html {min-width} smaller (500px) does not help.
As for div#mozscroll, it doesn't sound absolutely necessary to be there.
That's kinda my point (sorry, not being clear!) The page has all these
rules to tell the browser that its size is 700px yet Moz Ffox refuse
to show a horizontal scroll bar where Opera and IE6 do. Is this a
known bug or something more subtle on the page?
James
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Re: [WSG] New website launch
Quoting Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That wort of seems like beating a dead horse right there. If something has width:700px;, declaring min-width:700px; defeats the purpose. Fair point. min-width is the maximum allowed shrinkage a site will allow with a resized browser window *before* it will not shrink further and adds in scrollbars. To be effwctive in this case, the min-width would need to be a smaller value than 700px. As for div#mozscroll, it doesn't sound absolutely necessary to be there. It forces a vertical scrollbar which prevents the page from shifting when it goes beyond one screen. The problem I'm experiencing with the Windows 2000 seems to be related to box model issues with IE5 and IE5.5. I'm on the hunt... -- Ian Fenn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] New website launch
Kay wrote: I created a floating div and stuck them in that - seems to work, but I'm not sure it's the proper way to go! Thanks Kay! For me, removing a div seemed to work... but I'm not entirely sure my css markup is as good as it could be: ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] New website launch
Kay wrote: I created a floating div and stuck them in that - seems to work, but I'm not sure it's the proper way to go! Thanks Kay! For me, removing a div seemed to work... but I'm not entirely sure my css markup is as good as it could be: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=98657 All the best, -- Ian ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] New website launch
Hi Ian, I had a similar problem with my site - I had some tables that refused to display in the proper(desired) placement - they insisted on appearing below the absolutely positioned element - way down the page. I created a floating div and stuck them in that - seems to work, but I'm not sure it's the proper way to go! Kay Murphey Web Manager Dept of Community Services -Original Message- From: Ian Fenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 September 2004 09:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] New website launch Hi, I've launched my first website using web standards for a client: http://www.housedoctor.co.uk/ Checking the website in browsercam: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=98657 ...it doesn't seem to be rendering quite right in IE5 or IE5.5 in Windows 2000. It's also a bit screwy in Opera 6.0 on the Mac. I'd be most grateful for any possible fixes... All the best, -- Ian Fenn http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** This message is intended for the named addressee(s) only. It may be confidential. If you receive this message in error please notify us immediately by return mail and delete the message (and any attachments). Neither the NSW Department of Community Services nor the NSW Department of Ageing, Disability Home Care are responsible for any changes to this message, or the consequences of any changes to this message. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
