Re: [WSG] SEO - price

2005-01-31 Thread David R
dotcompals wrote:
Hello friends, 
I want to give out some of my websites for SEO(search
engine iptimization). Can I know what is the market rate
for SEO per site  what will be time frame to get the
results. 
regards
SEO doesn't really exist
...As far as any real gains go, the most you can do to an existing 
template is add appropriate title=, alt=, and meta / elements

SEO companies that claim massive increases in search results actually 
create link-farms to your site that give you plenty of googlejuice, 
fortunately Google's cottoned on to this plan and linkfarms no-longer 
have the desired effect they used to.

The only way to create true SEO is to have a site built from scratch 
with accessibility, standards compliance, and best practice compliance.

Okay... there is a way you can cheat, using any given server-side 
technology to show/hide a region to the Googlebot that contains more 
relevant information

...However, Googlebot is known to trawl the web with the IE6 UI string 
and they compare returned results (supposedly), so I don't really 
recommend said action.

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Re: [ADMIN] thread closed Re: [WSG] SEO - price

2005-01-31 Thread David R
Lea de Groot wrote:
This is offtopic
Can I ask anyone with something to add to reply offlist?
But you'd all figured that out already, hadn't you? ;)
Lea
Whops... I just got this message after I sent a reply to the thread
Sorry!
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RE: [WSG] SEO - price

2005-01-31 Thread Mike Pepper
List moderators:

I know this subject has been deemed OT but statements like 'SEO doesn't
really exist' need refuting.

SEO does exist as an internet profession. It has nothing to do with
spamdexing but is a process of best practice to promote web pages and sites
to the search engines, directories and internet media.

SEO is now subsumed in SEM - search engine marketing - and encompasses a
range of skills designed to legitimately elevate and drive traffic to sites.

I know, I am an SEM.

Stating SEO doesn't exist is akin to saying standards-based development
doesn't exist.

Mike Pepper
Accessible Web Developer
Internet SEO and Marketing Analyst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.visidigm.com

Administrator
Guild of Accessible Web Designers
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David R wrote:

SEO doesn't really exist

...As far as any real gains go, the most you can do to an existing
template is add appropriate title=, alt=, and meta / elements

SEO companies that claim massive increases in search results actually
create link-farms to your site that give you plenty of googlejuice,
fortunately Google's cottoned on to this plan and linkfarms no-longer
have the desired effect they used to.

The only way to create true SEO is to have a site built from scratch
with accessibility, standards compliance, and best practice compliance.

Okay... there is a way you can cheat, using any given server-side
technology to show/hide a region to the Googlebot that contains more
relevant information

...However, Googlebot is known to trawl the web with the IE6 UI string
and they compare returned results (supposedly), so I don't really
recommend said action.

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[ADMIN] thread closed Re: [WSG] SEO - price

2005-01-30 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:11:12 -0800 (PST), dotcompals wrote:
 I want to give out some of my websites for SEO(search
 engine iptimization). Can I know what is the market rate
 for SEO per site  what will be time frame to get the

This is offtopic
Can I ask anyone with something to add to reply offlist?
But you'd all figured that out already, hadn't you? ;)

Lea
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Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/
Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web 
Design
Brisbane, Australia
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