Re: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0
Name is still perfectly valid for form elements (inputs, selects, etc), just not for the FORM element itself. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_forms In any case, you should be using DOM scripting (with IDs assigned to the relevant elements and getElementById or similar), which works just fine. Patrick Herrod, Lisa wrote: Looking for opinions on the use of javascript for input control focus and tab index, instead of actually using the 'tabindex' attribute... I understnd that incomplete browser support of tabindex might influence this choice, ie javascript. But this would then force the use of the 'name' attribute which is formally deprecated in xhtml 1.0. I guess it improves accessibility but reduces compliance. Any thoughts? Lisa ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0
Lisa, I've been doing a little work on this subject: Accessible form guidelines. Attaching focus to objects via with JS via the DOM. Accessible expanded help. It's still a work in progress (not that clear) but I'm happy to take critiques, suggestions, improvements, rewordings, e.t.c It'll probably be a couple of months until it's finished. http://www.webSemantics.co.uk/tutorials/form_elements/ Though I'd be hard pressed to recommend tabindex at all. Hope it helps mike 2k:)2 marqueeblink [EMAIL PROTECTED] /marquee/blink http://www.webSemantics.co.uk -Original Message- From: Herrod, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2004 02:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0 Looking for opinions on the use of javascript for input control focus and tab index, instead of actually using the 'tabindex' attribute... I understnd that incomplete browser support of tabindex might influence this choice, ie javascript. But this would then force the use of the 'name' attribute which is formally deprecated in xhtml 1.0. I guess it improves accessibility but reduces compliance. Any thoughts? Lisa ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0
Thanks for that Mike, It's a great page of info! Lisa -Original Message- From: Mike Foskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0 Lisa, I've been doing a little work on this subject: Accessible form guidelines. Attaching focus to objects via with JS via the DOM. Accessible expanded help. It's still a work in progress (not that clear) but I'm happy to take critiques, suggestions, improvements, rewordings, e.t.c It'll probably be a couple of months until it's finished. http://www.webSemantics.co.uk/tutorials/form_elements/ Though I'd be hard pressed to recommend tabindex at all. Hope it helps mike 2k:)2 marqueeblink [EMAIL PROTECTED] /marquee/blink http://www.webSemantics.co.uk -Original Message- From: Herrod, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2004 02:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0 Looking for opinions on the use of javascript for input control focus and tab index, instead of actually using the 'tabindex' attribute... I understnd that incomplete browser support of tabindex might influence this choice, ie javascript. But this would then force the use of the 'name' attribute which is formally deprecated in xhtml 1.0. I guess it improves accessibility but reduces compliance. Any thoughts? Lisa ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0
Thanks Patrick, I'd noticed it was validating with name in form elements other than 'form'. Thanks for the link too ;) Lisa -Original Message- From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] tab index vs java script in xhtml 1.0 Name is still perfectly valid for form elements (inputs, selects, etc), just not for the FORM element itself. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_forms In any case, you should be using DOM scripting (with IDs assigned to the relevant elements and getElementById or similar), which works just fine. Patrick Herrod, Lisa wrote: Looking for opinions on the use of javascript for input control focus and tab index, instead of actually using the 'tabindex' attribute... I understnd that incomplete browser support of tabindex might influence this choice, ie javascript. But this would then force the use of the 'name' attribute which is formally deprecated in xhtml 1.0. I guess it improves accessibility but reduces compliance. Any thoughts? Lisa ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
