Re: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles
Lachlan Hardy wrote: Chris Stratford wrote: So its incorrectly loading the media for SCREEN... and wont load CSS from one method either... This is fairly typical of small-screen devices. Since most web developers don't use CSS properly yet, and many of those who do don't create handheld CSS, browser developers for small-screen devices have had to work out hacks to attempt to make the site conform to their requirements Applying the wrong one if the correct one isn't available I understand, but I can't imagine that it would be so hard to at least check for a handheld style sheet before applying the screen one. Would browser sniffing work? If so, which agents aren't well behaved (and are there any which are)? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles
Patrick, I have an interest in this too. I coded a site (valid XHTML v1.0 strict) at the weekend that works in IE from v3+ and Netscape from v2+. It should have been fine on a PDA but it crashed the browser (Internet Explorer). And that's before I add any J/S functionality. Today I've requisitioned a Compaq iPAQ with testing in mind. Any guidance would be appreciated. I shall be interested in the remarks made here. mike 2k:)2 ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles
I have a NEC e616 3Mobile.
I am in the process of loading that page for you...
But it seems that its not working at the moment... :)
hehehe
Ahhh actually its working
...
Waiting...
Damn thsi cruddy 3 reception...
...
...
ok reception lost again..
hold on a second...
moving the fone around and doing another refresh...
ahhh I got reception again...
the 3 page loaded...
ok entering the URL now :)
...
Waiting...
...
Ahhh wrong APN selected...
Changing that now...
Reset the fone again...
ok...
getting reception...
going to the 3 page again...
:)
...
sorry about this.
3 service for you!
OK THE PAGE LOADED!
DONE!
Ok
well it looks something like this:
handheld
media type test
screen
link media="screen"... not
applied.
style media="screen"... not
applied.
@import url("whatever.css") screen; not applied.
@media screen {... not
applied.
handheld
link media="screen"... not
applied.
style media="screen"... not
applied.
@import url("whatever.css") screen; not applied.
@media screen {... not
applied.
Although that might not come out ok, so here is what happened.
My NEC e616 implemented every style import...
EXCEPT the 3rd test...
For both media's...
So its incorrectly loading the media for SCREEN...
and wont load CSS from one method either...
the @import seems not to work...
ANYWAY!
hope that helped!
There goes $0.22 cents or something :P
LOL...
IF you want anything else - let me know!
Patrick Griffiths wrote:
I'm attempting to find out what support browsers on mobile devices such
as PDA's and phones have for the "handheld" media type.
Has anyone got any of experience of this?
I've supplied a bit of background info here:
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/55.php
And if anyone with a web-ready PDA or phone could let me know what
results they get with this test page...
http://www.htmldog.com/test/handheld.html
...I would be eternally grateful.
Patrick
Patrick Griffiths (PTG)
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/
http://www.htmldog.com
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Re: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles
Chris Stratford wrote: So its incorrectly loading the media for SCREEN... and wont load CSS from one method either... the @import seems not to work... This is fairly typical of small-screen devices. Since most web developers don't use CSS properly yet, and many of those who do don't create handheld CSS, browser developers for small-screen devices have had to work out hacks to attempt to make the site conform to their requirements That's probably not clarifying matters, but I've only had one coffee today so I won't be firing on all cylinders yet... Anyway, read this : http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/04/12/index4a.html It taught me everything I ever needed to know about small-screen dev Cheers, Lachlan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
