Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
Personally I think this is just another Microsoft attempt at trying to enforce what it believes the Standards should be. I too, spent several minutes trying to fix problems in ie8, when my wife noticed the main business's site not displaying properly, then she noticed the compatibility button next to the address bar in ie8 and it all worked fine. Tatham Oddie wrote: Tee, IE8 is shown as a Windows Update. If you're in Uninstall or Change Programs, make sure you have Show Updates ticked at the top of the window. Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 4:02 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Nick Hodge wrote: A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Hi Nick, I switched back to Classic View thinking to make the screenshots, but all the problems I saw before I switched to Vista View are gone. Not sure if it was some residues from IE7 I am absolute those problems are real, not my imaginations as I actually spent some 10 minutes trying to fix one page by adding a It IE8 Conditional comment, when it didn't work as it should as I know my CSS code, I started looking for other possible cause, however switching to Vista View was quite accidental because IE8 looks exactly like IE7 in the classic view and I couldn't find the Compatibility Mode on the toolbar. I would have uninstalled IE8 to run another test to see if I can see those problem again, but I can't find how to uninstall IE8. In the Control Panel Uninstall or Change Program, I can't see IE8. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
Would you mind sending me the link so I can take a look and diagnose why it is not rendering properly without compatibility view? Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Eyemax Studios Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2009 3:37 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode Personally I think this is just another Microsoft attempt at trying to enforce what it believes the Standards should be. I too, spent several minutes trying to fix problems in ie8, when my wife noticed the main business's site not displaying properly, then she noticed the compatibility button next to the address bar in ie8 and it all worked fine. Tatham Oddie wrote: Tee, IE8 is shown as a Windows Update. If you're in Uninstall or Change Programs, make sure you have Show Updates ticked at the top of the window. Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 4:02 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Nick Hodge wrote: A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Hi Nick, I switched back to Classic View thinking to make the screenshots, but all the problems I saw before I switched to Vista View are gone. Not sure if it was some residues from IE7 I am absolute those problems are real, not my imaginations as I actually spent some 10 minutes trying to fix one page by adding a It IE8 Conditional comment, when it didn't work as it should as I know my CSS code, I started looking for other possible cause, however switching to Vista View was quite accidental because IE8 looks exactly like IE7 in the classic view and I couldn't find the Compatibility Mode on the toolbar. I would have uninstalled IE8 to run another test to see if I can see those problem again, but I can't find how to uninstall IE8. In the Control Panel Uninstall or Change Program, I can't see IE8. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
You can have a look, it's www.studiojunkyard.com I would be more inclined to fix it, when have time hehe. Been building sites for a good time now, so it would be just a matter of taking the time and looking properly to solve it in a minimilist way. Tatham Oddie wrote: Would you mind sending me the link so I can take a look and diagnose why it is not rendering properly without compatibility view? Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Eyemax Studios Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2009 3:37 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode Personally I think this is just another Microsoft attempt at trying to enforce what it believes the Standards should be. I too, spent several minutes trying to fix problems in ie8, when my wife noticed the main business's site not displaying properly, then she noticed the compatibility button next to the address bar in ie8 and it all worked fine. Tatham Oddie wrote: Tee, IE8 is shown as a Windows Update. If you're in Uninstall or Change Programs, make sure you have Show Updates ticked at the top of the window. Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 4:02 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Nick Hodge wrote: A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Hi Nick, I switched back to Classic View thinking to make the screenshots, but all the problems I saw before I switched to Vista View are gone. Not sure if it was some residues from IE7 I am absolute those problems are real, not my imaginations as I actually spent some 10 minutes trying to fix one page by adding a It IE8 Conditional comment, when it didn't work as it should as I know my CSS code, I started looking for other possible cause, however switching to Vista View was quite accidental because IE8 looks exactly like IE7 in the classic view and I couldn't find the Compatibility Mode on the toolbar. I would have uninstalled IE8 to run another test to see if I can see those problem again, but I can't find how to uninstall IE8. In the Control Panel Uninstall or Change Program, I can't see IE8. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
Tee, IE8 is shown as a Windows Update. If you're in Uninstall or Change Programs, make sure you have Show Updates ticked at the top of the window. Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 4:02 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Nick Hodge wrote: A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Hi Nick, I switched back to Classic View thinking to make the screenshots, but all the problems I saw before I switched to Vista View are gone. Not sure if it was some residues from IE7 I am absolute those problems are real, not my imaginations as I actually spent some 10 minutes trying to fix one page by adding a It IE8 Conditional comment, when it didn't work as it should as I know my CSS code, I started looking for other possible cause, however switching to Vista View was quite accidental because IE8 looks exactly like IE7 in the classic view and I couldn't find the Compatibility Mode on the toolbar. I would have uninstalled IE8 to run another test to see if I can see those problem again, but I can't find how to uninstall IE8. In the Control Panel Uninstall or Change Program, I can't see IE8. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
Eyemax Studios wrote: Personally I think this is just another Microsoft attempt at trying to enforce what it believes the Standards should be. The beta program lasted for quite some time, you could have provided feedback if you thought they were deviating from actual standards. I too, spent several minutes trying to fix problems in ie8, when my wife noticed the main business's site not displaying properly, then she noticed the compatibility button next to the address bar in ie8 and it all worked fine. Presumably it was pre-hacked to work with IE7, so it is unsurprising the switching to IE7 compatibility mode would resolve any issues. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
For the record, the problem that I was having seems to be limited to one installation - everyone else who has tested this has had no issues, so I am going to assume that there _isn't_ anything wrong with my code until proved otherwise. Mike -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Tatham Oddie Sent: 07 April 2009 07:34 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode Would you mind sending me the link so I can take a look and diagnose why it is not rendering properly without compatibility view? Tatham Oddie http://tath.am *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
Eyemax Studios wrote:
You can have a look, it's www.studiojunkyard.com I would be more
inclined to fix it, when have time hehe.
Well, it definitely isn't what Microsoft believes the Standards should
be. All KHTML/WebKit and Presto browsers agree with IE8 (in Standards
mode), and only Gecko browsers and older IE are missing the
points/standards.
Neither IE's old 'hasLayout' bug nor the particular margin-collapse
behavior in Gecko can be relied on in IE8 and the other browsers. The
'hasLayout' bug is gone in IE8 (in Standards mode).
Try adding/changing to...
.content1, .content2{margin-bottom: 0;}
.home{padding-top:110px;margin-left:90px;background:transparent;}
* html .home{margin-top:110px; /* IE6 */}
*:first-child+htmlbody .home{margin-top:110px; /* IE7 */}
...for that particular page, and all browsers will line up - in
accordance with standards.
Doesn't prevent your page from looking a bit broken when subjected to
font resizing in all browsers though, I'm afraid.
regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
On Apr 6, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Tatham Oddie wrote: Tee, IE8 is shown as a Windows Update. If you're in Uninstall or Change Programs, make sure you have Show Updates ticked at the top of the window. Tatham Oddie http://tath.am Hi Tatham, THanks for this info. I did find out how to uninstall IE8 by posting question to another listserv. Couldn't see the same problem after a reinstallation on IE8 under Classic View setting. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Nick Hodge wrote: A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Hi Nick, I switched back to Classic View thinking to make the screenshots, but all the problems I saw before I switched to Vista View are gone. Not sure if it was some residues from IE7 I am absolute those problems are real, not my imaginations as I actually spent some 10 minutes trying to fix one page by adding a It IE8 Conditional comment, when it didn't work as it should as I know my CSS code, I started looking for other possible cause, however switching to Vista View was quite accidental because IE8 looks exactly like IE7 in the classic view and I couldn't find the Compatibility Mode on the toolbar. I would have uninstalled IE8 to run another test to see if I can see those problem again, but I can't find how to uninstall IE8. In the Control Panel Uninstall or Change Program, I can't see IE8. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: tee wrote: Sorry for my ignorant, is IE8 out? Yes, as of March 19th. Keep an eye on a site like this... http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/ ...and you'll at most only be a few days off regarding new releases. Georg, thanks. I have developed a work fatigue symptom that I don't want to deal with any beta version of browsers until they finally arrived. Strange that Microsoft is a bit shy with the new release because I have not been prompted to update the browser each time I turned on the PC. None of my clients' sites that I have access to their analytics, show IE 8 stats, except mine. Good news is, all sites are rendering properly as I expected them be, except one that the jQuery slide show is showing the exact problem as I saw in IE6 and 7. A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:58 AM, tee wrote: Strange that Microsoft is a bit shy with the new release because I have not been prompted to update the browser each time I turned on the PC. None of my clients' sites that I have access to their analytics, show IE 8 stats, except mine. Good news is, all sites are rendering properly as I expected them be, except one that the jQuery slide show is showing the exact problem as I saw in IE6 and 7. A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Oh, forgot to kudos the IE8 team, that I find the page load performance is on par with Safari :) tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson Sent: 25 March 2009 18:03 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Gunlaug S?rtun wrote: The start html tag is missing in your page - you have doctype directly followed by head. That should make no difference. The HTML, HEAD and BODY tags are optional. -- Thanks to everyone. Firstly, that was an embarrassing mistake. And it _was_ a mistake - I had the closing tag in there, but my build process has got messed up somewhere down the line. As an aside, does anyone know what is _supposed_ to happen if you close an optional tag that you didn't explicitly open? I am working on trying to narrow things down, but at the moment it looks like that was the problem, though I am seeing slightly different behaviour today. Will get back to you all once I am certain about my facts. I was aware of the X-UA-Compatible thing, but have no intention of going down that route: I have no way of knowing whether my code is compatible with IE9 or not, so how can I decide which mode it should render in next year? (As you can all see, I'm not too sure whether it is compatible with IE8, and this page doesn't like previous versions much either.) Regards, Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
Oh, forgot to kudos the IE8 team, that I find the page load performance is on par with Safari :) It's actually on par with Firefox 3 - running six parallel downloads per url. Safari and Opera should do slightly better running 8 concurrently. But either way it's far better than the original HTTP specification of 2 (IEv6 and v7). IEv8 also promises to no longer stall for the download of link's and script's. Should provide a marked improvement. mike foskett http://websemantics.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: 26 March 2009 15:40 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:58 AM, tee wrote: Strange that Microsoft is a bit shy with the new release because I have not been prompted to update the browser each time I turned on the PC. None of my clients' sites that I have access to their analytics, show IE 8 stats, except mine. Good news is, all sites are rendering properly as I expected them be, except one that the jQuery slide show is showing the exact problem as I saw in IE6 and 7. A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Oh, forgot to kudos the IE8 team, that I find the page load performance is on par with Safari :) tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** This is a confidential email. Tesco may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not Tesco. Tesco Stores Limited Company Number: 519500 Registered in England Registered Office: Tesco House, Delamare Road, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire EN8 9SL VAT Registration Number: GB 220 4302 31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
I was aware of the X-UA-Compatible thing, but have no intention of going down that route: I have no way of knowing whether my code is compatible with IE9 or not, so how can I decide which mode it should render in next year? (As you can all see, I'm not too sure whether it is compatible with IE8, and this page doesn't like previous versions much either.) - This was why I suggested using a value of IE=8 rather than edge, as discussed on ALA - http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype There are drawbacks as Georg mentioned but it seems the safest option to me. We are supplying all of our sites with an http header from the server of IE=8, if we want to change a particular site to a different rendering mode (to get into quirks mode for example) we add the meta tag which overrides the http header. Seems to be working a treat and avoids compatibility view entirely. James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: tee wrote: Sorry for my ignorant, is IE8 out? Yes, as of March 19th. Keep an eye on a site like this... http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/ ...and you'll at most only be a few days off regarding new releases. Georg, thanks. I have developed a work fatigue symptom that I don't want to deal with any beta version of browsers until they finally arrived. Strange that Microsoft is a bit shy with the new release because I have not been prompted to update the browser each time I turned on the PC. None of my clients' sites that I have access to their analytics, show IE 8 stats, except mine. Shy no; more careful. Forcing major version updates on day 1 is generally risky. Security updates are treated differently. More info on Windows Update plans for IE8: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/01/06/ie8-blocker-toolkit-available-today.aspx Good news is, all sites are rendering properly as I expected them be, except one that the jQuery slide show is showing the exact problem as I saw in IE6 and 7. A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Professional Geek, Microsoft Australia *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
michael.brocking...@bt.com wrote: http://www.calcresult.com/reference/text/unicode-reference.html The rendering of that page is slightly broken (at the moment) in IE6 and IE7 in that the right-hand column overlaps some of the content. What confused me though, was that IE8 insisted on rendering in 'compatibility mode' otherwise known as IE7 mode, even though the rendering is correct when I worked out how to force it into IE8 mode. That page is clearly rendered in IE8 standard mode by default at my end. Check internal settings in IE8 at your end, and make sure you don't mix those two modes. If in doubt, place this meta in page head... meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge / ...and the Compatibility view button will disappear in IE8. The start html tag is missing in your page - you have doctype directly followed by head. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
If in doubt, place this meta in page head... meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge / ...and the Compatibility view button will disappear in IE8. Using meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=8 / will also have the same effect (getting rid of the compatibility view button and forcing standards mode), but may be a bit more stable against future releases of IE. James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:58 AM, michael.brocking...@bt.com michael.brocking...@bt.com wrote: Hi, One of the very first pages that I tested in the released version of IE8 Sorry for my ignorant, is IE8 out? I did a google search, and only see Released Candidate, the IE8 page on MSDN site is abit vague about this. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
tee wrote: Sorry for my ignorant, is IE8 out? Yes, as of March 19th. Keep an eye on a site like this... http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/ ...and you'll at most only be a few days off regarding new releases. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Gunlaug S?rtun wrote: The start html tag is missing in your page - you have doctype directly followed by head. That should make no difference. The HTML, HEAD and BODY tags are optional. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com = Do not reply to the From: address; use Reply-To: Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
James Leslie wrote: Using meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=8 / will also have the same effect (getting rid of the compatibility view button and forcing standards mode), but may be a bit more stable against future releases of IE. But, may also lock documents to IE8's rendering capabilities even if future IE releases can handle more, better - which they should. Not very wise, IMO. You wouldn't choose/advice such a safeguard strategy for any of the other browsers, would you? IE8 does have a few dozen irritating bugs and weaknesses, and is (pretty much) limited to CSS2.1. However, IE8 final is pretty stable and works quite well for all properly built sites, so one can say Microsoft has done an acceptable job. No signs they'll jump off the standards path either now that they've finally got on it, even if they're a little behind the others. What's holding IE8 back now is all those sites that has been safeguarded and tailored to work in earlier IE versions as if there was no tomorrow, and it is about time we stop treating IE as a browser that will be in need of special solutions forever. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
James Leslie wrote: Using meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=8 / will also have the same effect (getting rid of the compatibility view button and forcing standards mode), but may be a bit more stable against future releases of IE. But, may also lock documents to IE8's rendering capabilities even if future IE releases can handle more, better - which they should. Not very wise, IMO. You wouldn't choose/advice such a safeguard strategy for any of the other browsers, would you? IE8 does have a few dozen irritating bugs and weaknesses, and is (pretty much) limited to CSS2.1. However, IE8 final is pretty stable and works quite well for all properly built sites, so one can say Microsoft has done an acceptable job. No signs they'll jump off the standards path either now that they've finally got on it, even if they're a little behind the others. What's holding IE8 back now is all those sites that has been safeguarded and tailored to work in earlier IE versions as if there was no tomorrow, and it is about time we stop treating IE as a browser that will be in need of special solutions forever. 100% agree. Build sites to standards. This will help your design work on Firefox, Chrome, Safari and IE8 Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
