Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-16 Thread Andy Budd
Richard Rutter wrote:
If you want something doing...
A script which uses the DOM to automatically underline the letter of a 
link text which matches its accesskey:
http://clagnut.com/sandbox/dynamic-accesskeys/

Any use? In some ways this could be using JavaScript to increase 
accessibility, or least stop mark-up getting in the way.
Smartass
I hope you're gonna use that for your SkillSwap :-)
Andy Budd
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RE: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Patrick Lauke
Tested with JAWS 4.02, and yes, it reads it as search.
That's not to say, though, that all screenreaders behave this way...
Let me guess...underlines for accesskeys ?

One thing that worries me about doing those sorts of things is that
the result is very...non semantic. Not sure how, say, search
engines would react to seeing Words broken up like that. Would
they still index the word itself, or would they see an S and
earch? (sure, in this case it doesn't make a difference, but
I'm thinking in more general terms, e.g. headings using an image
as an ornate initial or something - search engines would presumably
not recognise the designer's intention - why should they? - and
not see the word as a whole).

Patrick

Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk

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 Here's a quick (and probably stupid) accessibility question regarding 
 screen readers.
 
 labelspanS/spanearch/label
 
 I assume the a screen reader will read this out as Search 
 and not S 
 earch.
 
 
 Andy Budd
 
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Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Richard Rutter
On 15 Jun 2004, at 12:34, Andy Budd wrote:
 I agree with you. It's not the nicest way of doing this. I think 
using the :first-letter pseudo-element selector would probably be a 
better bet.

Much neater, until you need accesskeys for both Search and Services of 
course. I'm sure some clever person could apply the underlining to 
links with accesskeys via the DOM.

Assuming Andy is along the write lines with his span tags (and I see 
no reason why not), the pseudo code might be something like:

for each link in the document {
if link has an accesskey attribute {
split link text at first instance of accesskey value
wrap a span around the accesskey value
recombine the link text
write modified link text back into DOM
}
}
Anyone fancy a bit of fun making that work? Would it actually be useful?
Rich.
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Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Richard Rutter
On 15 Jun 2004, at 17:55, Richard Rutter wrote:
Anyone fancy a bit of fun making that work? Would it actually be 
useful?

If you want something doing...
A script which uses the DOM to automatically underline the letter of a 
link text which matches its accesskey:
http://clagnut.com/sandbox/dynamic-accesskeys/

Any use? In some ways this could be using JavaScript to increase 
accessibility, or least stop mark-up getting in the way.

Rich.
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RE: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Mike Pepper
Hey, that looks interesting, Richard.

You got me thinking. Nice one :o)

Mike Pepper
(thoughtful) Accessible Web Developer
www.seowebsitepromotion.com
www.gawds.org

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On 15 Jun 2004, at 17:55, Richard Rutter wrote:

 Anyone fancy a bit of fun making that work? Would it actually be 
 useful?


If you want something doing...

A script which uses the DOM to automatically underline the letter of a 
link text which matches its accesskey:
http://clagnut.com/sandbox/dynamic-accesskeys/

Any use? In some ways this could be using JavaScript to increase 
accessibility, or least stop mark-up getting in the way.


Rich.

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