[X2go-dev] discussion on newly released NXv3.5 packages and X2go on pkg-x2go-devel
Hi all, for those being able to contribute (and not subscribed to pkg-x2go-devel on Alioth), I would like to make you aware on a discussion thread around newly released NXv3.5 sources in relation to X2go. Thread: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-x2go-devel/2011-May/thread.html Latest NX 3.5 release http://www.nomachine.com/download.php Ubuntu is probably about to use these new NX libs for X2go in Ubuntu. The current approach is also to make nxagent itself work with X2go (which might not be what we want, as x2goagent has been patched by Alex quite a bit already). The Ubuntu developer, Stéphane Graber, who is really keen to get X2go into Oneiric, is very co-operative and interested in X2go / Python-X2go. His objective is to keep everything (X2go Git, Debian, Ubuntu etc.) compatible, assure that patches are shared and that the code base is in sync, etc. But still, we (x2go-dev upstream) have to find a disposition on the dual-upstream issue around NX libs. In x2go-upstream we have to discuss if our nx* packages in Git are actually a hijack (as NoMachine still seems to be active around NX 3.5). Due to the latest NXv3.5 release by NoMachine there now exists a dual-upstream situation... This should have been avoided and now has to be dealt with. Currently, I see two possibilities (for X2go into Debian without bringing up namespace issues), but I might be lacking sight here: 1. We make X2go work with NoMachine's NX 3.5 (complemented through a patchset provided by X2go, this patchset may not break NX functionality - qtnx, freenx, etc., but improve functionality with X2go). 2. We really fork NX libs, nxproxy (as already happened with x2goagent). That would mean a renaming of libraries and also Git projects etc, e.g.: x2goproxy, x2gocomp, x2gocompext, x2gocompshad. Please stay tuned around this topic and contribute to the discussion, if possible. Thanks Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 GnuPG Key ID 0xB588399B mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpUIrslBQxGY.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] discussion on newly released NXv3.5 packages and X2go on pkg-x2go-devel
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 17:48 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 17:25:03 (CEST), Mike Gabriel wrote: Currently, I see two possibilities (for X2go into Debian without bringing up namespace issues), but I might be lacking sight here: 1. We make X2go work with NoMachine's NX 3.5 (complemented through a patchset provided by X2go, this patchset may not break NX functionality - qtnx, freenx, etc., but improve functionality with X2go). I think this is the way to go 2. We really fork NX libs, nxproxy (as already happened with x2goagent). That would mean a renaming of libraries and also Git projects etc, e.g.: x2goproxy, x2gocomp, x2gocompext, x2gocompshad. This is the option to stick the head in the sand. let's at least try Option #1. I agree - John ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] discussion on newly released NXv3.5 packages and X2go on pkg-x2go-devel
I sent the e-mail below to fix the misunderstanding on both mailing-lists but forgot to set the right sender and so got stuck in the moderation queue :) Since then, Mike clarified the confusion but here it's anyway. On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 17:25 +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: Hi all, Hi! for those being able to contribute (and not subscribed to pkg-x2go-devel on Alioth), I would like to make you aware on a discussion thread around newly released NXv3.5 sources in relation to X2go. Thread: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-x2go-devel/2011-May/thread.html Latest NX 3.5 release http://www.nomachine.com/download.php Ubuntu is probably about to use these new NX libs for X2go in Ubuntu. The current approach is also to make nxagent itself work with X2go (which might not be what we want, as x2goagent has been patched by Alex quite a bit already). The Ubuntu developer, Stéphane Graber, who is really keen to get X2go into Oneiric, is very co-operative and interested in X2go / Python-X2go. His objective is to keep everything (X2go Git, Debian, Ubuntu etc.) compatible, assure that patches are shared and that the code base is in sync, etc. Bad timing, I just sent an e-mail to pkg-x2go-devel about this :) It was actually a typo I made this morning. I don't plan on having nxagent and x2goagent compatible. They already have a different name so they can perfectly co-exist in the archive. X2goagent is from my point of view a clear fork of nxagent, so it's fine to have both. What I'm currently working on is getting python-x2go in the archive, which means updating its dependencies: - nxproxy - nxcomp I have test packages for these two including all the changes from x2go, the new upstream release and remaining patches from Debian. But still, we (x2go-dev upstream) have to find a disposition on the dual-upstream issue around NX libs. As mentioned in my last e-mail (just a few minutes ago), my problem is with: - nxcomp - nxcompext - nxcompshad - nxproxy Where we have two upstreams for the same code. x2go would have to choose to either fork the code and rename them to x2go* or maintain a patchset on top of NoMachine's code that maintainer can use in their packages. In x2go-upstream we have to discuss if our nx* packages in Git are actually a hijack (as NoMachine still seems to be active around NX 3.5). Due to the latest NXv3.5 release by NoMachine there now exists a dual-upstream situation... This should have been avoided and now has to be dealt with. Currently, I see two possibilities (for X2go into Debian without bringing up namespace issues), but I might be lacking sight here: 1. We make X2go work with NoMachine's NX 3.5 (complemented through a patchset provided by X2go, this patchset may not break NX functionality - qtnx, freenx, etc., but improve functionality with X2go). 2. We really fork NX libs, nxproxy (as already happened with x2goagent). That would mean a renaming of libraries and also Git projects etc, e.g.: x2goproxy, x2gocomp, x2gocompext, x2gocompshad. Please stay tuned around this topic and contribute to the discussion, if possible. Thanks Mike ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev -- Stéphane -- Stéphane Graber Ubuntu developer http://www.ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] discussion on newly released NXv3.5 packages and X2go on pkg-x2go-devel
Hi guys, On Fr 20 Mai 2011 18:53:51 CEST John A. Sullivan III wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 17:48 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 17:25:03 (CEST), Mike Gabriel wrote: Currently, I see two possibilities (for X2go into Debian without bringing up namespace issues), but I might be lacking sight here: 1. We make X2go work with NoMachine's NX 3.5 (complemented through a patchset provided by X2go, this patchset may not break NX functionality - qtnx, freenx, etc., but improve functionality with X2go). I think this is the way to go 2. We really fork NX libs, nxproxy (as already happened with x2goagent). That would mean a renaming of libraries and also Git projects etc, e.g.: x2goproxy, x2gocomp, x2gocompext, x2gocompshad. This is the option to stick the head in the sand. let's at least try Option #1. I agree - John +1 by me, as well. Heinz? Alex? (I know, Heinz is offline at the weekend, so we may not expect an answer before Monday night...). Greets, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 GnuPG Key ID 0xB588399B mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpb4yVy0zF0y.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] NX bug: AltGr gets stuck when pressed once
On Thu, 19 May 2011 17:31:18 +0200 Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de wrote: hi all, today i have encoutered this bug with X2go: http://www.nomachine.com/tr/view.php?id=TR02H02327 What can be done about this The workaround mentioned in the bug report also works (the one recommending to loose focus on NX session window). I am on Arch - both the client and the x2go server. Regards, Milan -- http://www.milan-knizek.net/ About linux and photography (Czech only) O linuxu a fotografování (pouze česky) ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
