[X2Go-User] X2Go: The Gathering 2014: registration deadline coming near (Sep 18th 2014)

2014-09-17 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi all,


TL;DR; the registration deadline for the upcoming X2Go Gathering  
@Linuxhotel.de (31st Oct - 2nd Nov 2014) is coming close (booking  
accomodation for the event will not be reliably possible beyond 18th  
Sep 2014, which is tomorrow). Read  
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.announce/125 for  
further details.



We'd love to welcome all people at the event, that are interested in  
X2Go, use X2Go, have contributed to X2Go, or have not yet contributed  
to X2Go. We'd be happy to welcome everyone associated to our project  
and look forward to get each others' faces (better).


Please send your questions / registration / accomodation bookings to  
Stefan Baur (X2Go-ML-1 at baur-itcs.de).


If you intend joining us (you really should!!!), please take the time  
to fully read the original announcement post X2Go: The Gathering  
2014 [1] sent out by Stefan Baur.


Thanks and hopefully CU at the event!!!

Mike

[1] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.announce/125

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Re: [X2Go-User] Client and broker authentication

2014-09-17 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Michael,

On  Di 16 Sep 2014 19:56:19 CEST, Michael Gale wrote:


Hello,

When using the broker with Apache and WSGI, it is possible to have the
client perform NTLM authentication against Apache?

That way we can offer single sign-on for our users, we want to authenticate
against an AD server and some clients are Windows desktop machines.

Thanks
Michael


in upcoming release (0.0.3.0) of the broker, there will be an  
https_get authmech. With this authentication mechanism (which you can  
use instead of the pam authmech) you can authenticate against any  
https URL. If the URL returns a 200 http return code, then auth is  
considered as successful, otherwise it is considered as a failure.


With the https_get authmech you can use any Apache2 authencation  
backend to proxy-through broker authentication requests.



Mike

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Re: [X2Go-User] Stopping a session from suspending on disconnect

2014-09-17 Thread Stefan Baur
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(Crossposting/forwarding this to x2go-dev)

Hi guys,

judging from this user feedback, maybe we should change our terminology?
Detach (German: Trennen) seems to be less misleading than
Suspend (German: Anhalten).
At least one of the closed-source, commercial players in the remote
desktop field uses Trennen in its German client software, too.

- -Stefan

Am 17.09.2014 um 12:21 schrieb Martyn Welch:
 Ooh, this is embarrassing...
 
 On 16/09/14 15:41, Stefan Baur wrote: Am 16.09.2014 um 12:01
 schrieb Martyn Welch:
 X2go is generally working well as a replacement (thanks
 guys!), however one complaint that I'm getting from users is
 that x2go suspends sessions on disconnect. Some users have
 graphical tools that they are kicking off to run long tasks
 and want to disconnect, leaving the task to complete (for
 example, over night) without needing the session to be
 maintained. This was the default behaviour in neatx and hence
 the behaviour that the users have come to expect (sessions
 wouldn't suspend on disconnect). Is there any mechanism built
 into x2go to achieve this?
 
 Are you sure your users actually tried that out and aren't just 
 mislead by the expression suspend?  In fact, it is more like
 detach. You detach the X2Go session, and the virtual screen on
 the server remains running, so you can re-attach at any time.
 
 
 I'd had a few guys independently raise this with me and hadn't
 actually tested it (it didn't seem unlikely and the suspend
 terminology made it seem plausible).
 
 A quick test running a loop in a terminal kinda proved that they
 were wrong...
 
 For anyone reading this in the archive, try:
 
 i=0; while [ 1 ]; do echo Count $i; let i=$i+1; sleep 1; done
 
 Leave running and disconnect, log back in after a while, you'll
 see the count has increased proportionally with the time that's
 past. (Or ssh in separately and watch the PID of the sleep
 command increment).
 
 
 Sorry for the noise.
 
 Martyn
 
 I think there was a piece of code that would let you renice
 sessions that were in a detached state, so they take up less CPU,
 but I'm not sure if that made it to a stable release yet.  Mike#1
 might know more.
 
 A full suspend, comparable to a laptop suspend/hibernate, is not 
 something X2Go does.
 
 -Stefan
 
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Re: [X2Go-User] Stopping a session from suspending on disconnect

2014-09-17 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Stefan,

On  Mi 17 Sep 2014 12:26:12 CEST, Stefan Baur wrote:


(Crossposting/forwarding this to x2go-dev)

Hi guys,

judging from this user feedback, maybe we should change our terminology?
Detach (German: Trennen) seems to be less misleading than
Suspend (German: Anhalten).
At least one of the closed-source, commercial players in the remote
desktop field uses Trennen in its German client software, too.

- -Stefan



do have an idea what a bunch of work this would be (code changes over  
code changes to do it properly)?


Let us rather train people in our terminology.

my 2¢
Mike

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Re: [X2Go-User] Stopping a session from suspending on disconnect

2014-09-17 Thread Stefan Baur
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Am 17.09.2014 um 14:29 schrieb Mike Gabriel:

 Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a renice
 feature.

Shouldn't this be made configurable, at least as a server-side global
option?  Some people might rely on their applications running at the
same speed when detached.

- -Stefan

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Re: [X2Go-User] Stopping a session from suspending on disconnect

2014-09-17 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Stefan,

On  Mi 17 Sep 2014 14:32:04 CEST, Stefan Baur wrote:


Am 17.09.2014 um 14:29 schrieb Mike Gabriel:


Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a renice
feature.


Shouldn't this be made configurable, at least as a server-side global
option?  Some people might rely on their applications running at the
same speed when detached.


Sure, it will be (and already is). I am still just simply pondering if  
it shall be on or off by default.


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Re: [X2Go-User] Stopping a session from suspending on disconnect

2014-09-17 Thread Stefan Baur
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Am 17.09.2014 um 14:37 schrieb Mike Gabriel:

 Please also note that in X2Go Server 4.1.0.0 we will have a
 renice feature.
 
 Shouldn't this be made configurable, at least as a server-side
 global option?  Some people might rely on their applications
 running at the same speed when detached.
 
 Sure, it will be (and already is). I am still just simply pondering
 if it shall be on or off by default.

For Debian/Ubuntu: On by default (assuming it's tested enough), and
with a config question of sufficiently high priority that it *doesn't*
install silently when the Debian/Ubuntu default configuration priority
is set, and with a clear explanation what it does and where people
should consider turning it off (batch jobs, number crunching, etc.).

- -Stefan

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