[X2Go-User] Newbie question: What is x2go's relationship to VcXsrv?

2015-05-11 Thread David Aldrich
Hi

I use VcXsrv and have just come across x2go.

Please will someone explain if there is any relationship between x2go and 
VcXsrv?

Why might I want to use x2go instead of VcXsrv?

(I work on a Windows 8.1 machine and want to access GUI apps on Linux machines).

Best regards

David

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Re: [X2Go-User] Newbie question: What is x2go's relationship to VcXsrv?

2015-05-11 Thread Stefan Baur
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Am 11.05.2015 um 10:56 schrieb David Aldrich:

 I use VcXsrv and have just come across x2go.

 Please will someone explain if there is any relationship between
 x2go and VcXsrv?

Plain VcXsrv is just that - a plain X server for Windows, that you can
use with any SSH client that supports X forwarding, no change on the
Unix machine required.

For X2Go, you need to install the X2Go server packages on your Unix
(currently: only Linux) machine, else you will be unable to connect to
it using X2GoClient.

X2GoClient for Windows ships with a patched/forked version of VcXsrv,
kindly maintained by Mike DePaulo, informally known on this list as
Mike#2.


 Why might I want to use x2go instead of VcXsrv?

For learning about the advantages of X2Go, I would like to suggest you
visit our Wiki page for beginners:
http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:newtox2go


Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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Re: [X2Go-User] Newbie question: What is x2go's relationship to VcXsrv?

2015-05-11 Thread David Aldrich
Thanks for your explanations. 

Best regards

David

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 Am 11.05.2015 um 10:56 schrieb David Aldrich:
 
  I use VcXsrv and have just come across x2go.
 
  Please will someone explain if there is any relationship between x2go
  and VcXsrv?
 
 Plain VcXsrv is just that - a plain X server for Windows, that you can use 
 with
 any SSH client that supports X forwarding, no change on the Unix machine
 required.
 
 For X2Go, you need to install the X2Go server packages on your Unix
 (currently: only Linux) machine, else you will be unable to connect to it 
 using
 X2GoClient.
 
 X2GoClient for Windows ships with a patched/forked version of VcXsrv,
 kindly maintained by Mike DePaulo, informally known on this list as Mike#2.
 
 
  Why might I want to use x2go instead of VcXsrv?
 
 For learning about the advantages of X2Go, I would like to suggest you visit
 our Wiki page for beginners:
 http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:newtox2go
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 Stefan Baur
 
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Re: [X2Go-User] Newbie question: What is x2go's relationship to VcXsrv?

2015-05-11 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi David,

On  Mo 11 Mai 2015 10:56:35 CEST, David Aldrich wrote:


Hi

I use VcXsrv and have just come across x2go.

Please will someone explain if there is any relationship between  
x2go and VcXsrv?


Why might I want to use x2go instead of VcXsrv?

(I work on a Windows 8.1 machine and want to access GUI apps on  
Linux machines).


Best regards

David


X2Go uses NX technology which requires an XServer on the client-side host.

In X2Go the setup is this:

  o (Windows) client-side: VcXsrv
  o client-side: nxproxy
  o server-side: nxagent (aka x2goagent) (Xserver where the X2Go session
runs in).

X2Go Client bundles VcXsrv and ships it in its installer. As we  
experienced long delays with security fixes in the upstream VcXsrv the  
X2Go project's and the Arctica Project's (working on a remote desktop  
solution write-up from scratch) team chose to maintain its own  
branch/version of VcXsrv [1].


You can use VcXsrv to run local X11 and remote X11 application via the  
normal X11 protocol. X2Go utilizes NX technology, which is used for  
starting remote X11 application, but the NX protocol does several  
things for optimizing the application's smoothness when it comes to  
low bandwidth connections.


Mike

[1] https://github.com/ArcticaProject/vcxsrv
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Re: [X2Go-User] Last Call! X2Go: The Gathering 2015, Registration ends in one week from today!

2015-05-11 Thread Robert Dinse


 Sounds like your'e all having fun, wish I could join but funds and time
don't allow travel at present.

 I recently upgraded both my workstation and server to Ububtu 15.04 and
happy to report X2Go still works on both except that sound is broken on the
server, but I don't think that is an X2Go issue but rather an issue with my
using a different kernel and audio modules not loading.  I'll chase it down
while you're all relaxin' and having fun.

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On Mon, 11 May 2015, Stefan Baur wrote:


Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 22:07:17 +0200
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Subject: [X2Go-User] Last Call! X2Go: The Gathering 2015,
Registration ends in one week from today!

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| X2Go: The Gathering 2015 - 2015-06-19 - 2015-06-21 @ Linuxhotel |
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Hello, everyone!

This is an update on the X2Go: The Gathering 2015 situation.
** Please pay special attention to the sections containing the **
** word UPDATE in capital letters.   **

Registration ends in one week from today!

UPDATE: All beds are booked out by our ten participants!

These are, in alphabetical order:

- - Alonso, Nicolas Arenas (TheQVD)
- - Baur, Stefan (BAUR-ITCS)
- - DePaulo, Michael Swinick
- - Fleten, Kjetil Andre (fleten.net)
- - Gabriel, Mike (DAS-NETZWERKTEAM)
- - Heinold, Henning
- - Martinez, Nito (TheQVD)
- - Moldovan, Mihai (BAUR-ITCS)
- - Pedersen-Cook, Mark (fleten.net)
- - Wicke, Florian (Hetzner)

UPDATE: Thanks to Florian Wicke's employer, Hetzner, we will be able
to cover the accomodation costs of at least 4 participants, and we
will probably spend the remaining money of Hetzner's sponsorship on
food and/or travel expenses.

Also, special thanks to Linuxhotel for jumping in and renewing their
kind offer, as we had originally selected another location that didn't
work out.

If you still want to join us, you have the following options:

- - You can bring your own sleeping bag and sleep on the conference room
 floor (in theory, bringing your own tent and setting it up on the
 lawn should work, too - it has been done before - but if you're
 really that desperate, please *do* tell me in advance that you're
 bringing a tent, so I can check back with the Linuxhotel owners).
- - You can visit us on a day-by-day basis, sleeping elsewhere.
- - UPDATE: You can ask me to be put on a waiting list, in case more
 beds become available.

Regardless of which option you choose:
Please DO contact me at x2go-m...@baur-itcs.de with the
text The Gathering somewhere in the subject and bug me publicly on
the X2Go-Project list if you don't receive a confirmation by e-mail
after a day or two.

For those sleeping elsewhere, there's no such hard deadline as
for the room reservations, but you will need to check in (see
Admission fee below) for our gathering with the Linuxhotel staff, so
please *do* let us know in advance.

*Cost overview*
UPDATE: An overview of the costs, updated for people interested in
taking the sleeping bag or day-to-day approach, is available at:
http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/events:x2go-gathering-2015#cost_overview

*Payment*
UPDATE: You will have to pay in cash *on Saturday morning* - or *upon
arriving at Linuxhotel*, if you're not staying over night.  Sorry, we
can't accept credit cards, debit cards, bitcoins or other forms of
payment for this event - *cash only*.
UPDATE: The only exception to the rule are wire transfers for those
participants wanting to pay in advance.  Also, all payments must be
made in *Euro, not in foreign currencies*.
If you wish to pay in advance, please contact me via E-Mail at
x2go-m...@baur-itcs.de for the SEPA banking details.

*Lunch/Dinner/BBQ*
UPDATE: We have reached critical mass so that we could order
lunch/dinner from Linuxhotel as well, if all participants agree.
Dear participants:
Please let me know whether you would like to
[ ] have lunch served by Linuxhotel on
   [ ] Saturday
   [ ] Sunday
   [ ] both
[ ] have dinner served by Linuxhotel on Saturday
[ ] have dinner at Unperfekthaus on Saturday, like last year
[ ] bring your own food/order pizza/fire up the BBQ whenever you want
I need your answer by 2015-05-18, so I can make the proper
reservations and arrangements!!!

Linuxhotel charges 5 EUR per person and lunch/dinner, however, you can
expect a discount on that 

Re: [X2Go-User] [X2Go-Dev] Last Call! X2Go: The Gathering 2015, Registration ends in one week from today!

2015-05-11 Thread Robert Dinse


 I tested the X2Go client from a Ubuntu 15.04 work station to other 
servers, sound works fine on the client, it is on the server side that it's

broken, and I think that's because of my kernel.  During the update I saw
some modules that were sound related fail to load.  I have a 4.0.0 kernel
where the Ubuntu ships with 3.19.0.  I'll undo that in a bit and see if it
fixes sound on the server, but X2Go client is working fine, sound included,
on Ubuntu 15.04.


It's actually a client problem, I think.

If 15.05 ships libpulse-6 and you're using the release build of X2Go Client,
that's broken.

As a workaround, please try the nightly builds.



Mihai



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Re: [X2Go-User] [X2Go-Dev] Last Call! X2Go: The Gathering 2015, Registration ends in one week from today!

2015-05-11 Thread Mihai Moldovan
On 11.05.2015 10:22 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:
 
   Sounds like your'e all having fun, wish I could join but funds and time
 don't allow travel at present.

I'd actually love to have YOU around. Hope we'll be able to meet up some time.


   I recently upgraded both my workstation and server to Ububtu 15.04 and
 happy to report X2Go still works on both except that sound is broken on the
 server, but I don't think that is an X2Go issue but rather an issue with my
 using a different kernel and audio modules not loading.  I'll chase it down
 while you're all relaxin' and having fun.

It's actually a client problem, I think.

If 15.05 ships libpulse-6 and you're using the release build of X2Go Client,
that's broken.

As a workaround, please try the nightly builds.



Mihai



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