Re: [Xastir] get-NWSdata failure
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019, Dan Srebnick wrote: I just grabbed the latest code from git and compiled, then was able to run the script. It works fine with the exception of one file it cannot find. Updated in Git by Tom. Thanks! BTW: Nobody will see any weather alerts from me until I gain a new upstream feed. I've been working to get that for the last few weeks and am in contact with someone about it. Shouldn't be too long. Another guy does part of the weather alerts, I do the other part, using entirely different feeds and mechanisms between the two of us. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] get-NWSdata failure
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019, Dan Srebnick wrote: I just grabbed the latest code from git and compiled, then was able to run the script. It works fine with the exception of one file it cannot find. I'll give it a look-see later today. I'm usually the one that fixes this stuff. Yes, you need to run the latest Git version of the script every time as the files available from NWS change pretty often. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir sierial port lock
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Jason KG4WSV wrote: why? nothing good can come from simultaneous access. On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:43 AM Danny ZS6XOX wrote: Hey guys, Is there a way I can disable Xastir's lock on the serial port (lockfile)? Exactly what I was thinking. Perhaps you're not using a serial port with Xastir but Xastir is trying to use one anyway? In that case you go to Interface, Interface Control, select the interface in question select Properties, disable "Activate on Startup". -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net U.S. Weather Alerts: Firenet.aprs2.net, port 14580, filter "t/n e/WE7U-WX" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
I've noticed a lot of people these days only do/recognize top-posting, so I'm
going against my better nature and top-posting this comment.
1) Which "author" are you talking about? We have many developers (16 at last
count), plus a whole lot of users who answer questions on the mailing list. If a
non-developer answers a question so much the better! Many users know a whole lot more
about using the program than some developers do plus it frees up developer time for other
activities.
2) Check the email thread to see if responses have gotten hidden that you never
read:
2a) Many people (including me) by default respond AFTER your text or
intersperse our answers in-between your questions. Many email packages hide
those responses underneath a little line that you have to click on to see.
2b) If multiple responses came in since you last checked your inbox and you're
in threaded mode, you probably only see the most recent response. You need to
dig a little to see all of them.
Personally I use GMail, tell it NOT to thread, but then do most of my email
work inside Alpine on Linux: I'm not on the web-based or phone-based email
except in rare circumstances. I don't miss any responses due to threading and
no interspersed responses are hidden.
For more info, see below, plus read other messages that may have been hidden
from you due to threading.
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, Steve Rogers wrote:
Believe David Ranch answered your message and broke down your errors on kpc3+
Kd5mkv
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From: Xastir on behalf of MJ Inabnit
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:23 AM
To: xastir@lists.xastir.org
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Kantronics DiGi help
Why hasn't the author replied? This is VERY important info for newbies
LIKE ME!
Thanks for the assist. I'll keep this email as a reference as I plug
along on our diginodes.
73
j
On 11/26/18 8:50 AM, David Ranch wrote:
Hello Danny,
I am helping a friend of mine EX0CK from Kyrgistan setup an iGate
(EX0CK-1 with a Kantronics KPC-3 v8.2) which seems to be working well
with Xastir, or at least it is beaconing and is visible on
www.aprs.fi. However, we are trying to also setup a DiGiPeater in the
same area (EX0CK-10 with a Kantronics KPC-3+ v9.1 ) just as a
digipeater for a project we are working on. The KPC-3+ is standalone
and is not interfaced with any software. We want EX0CK-1 (KPC-3
connected to Xastir) to be an iGate and EX0CK-10 (KPC-3+) to be a
digipeater only.
For the EC0CK-1 digi, what paths do you want it to support? WIDE1-1
only? WIDE2-1 and WIDE1-1 only?
Next, can you send us a copy of the packet string that the EX0CK-10 is
beaconing out that you're hoping to see on APRS.FI (via EX0CK-1)? You
can use various tools to inspect your string to make sure it's ok such as:
#example from
https://aprs-python.readthedocs.io/en/stable/parse_formats.html
#
sudo pip install aprslib
python
import aprslib
aprslib.parse("FROMCALL>TOCALL:!4903.50N/07201.75W-Test /A=001234")
quit ()
## EX0CK-10 Standalone digi (KPC-3+)###
. . .
LTP
1 APN382 VIA WIDE2-2
2 APN382
3 APN382
4 APN382
These look wrong as I would expect this to be "APN391" for your KPC3+
v9.1 TNC. Seems you mistakenly cut and pasted from a different TNC.
MYCALL EX0CK-1 0
Why is there a space in there? You should read the recommended APRS
configuration setup from WB4APR -
http://www.aprs.org/kpc3/kpc3+WIDEn.txt . Specifically, you ideally put
a LOCATION name in there like "BISHKEK"
MYALIAS WIDE1-1
This is wrong. Per the above URL, set this to something useless like NONE
MYDROP 0
MYNODE EX0CK-1 0
Why is there a space in here as well?
PACLEN 0
Not sure why you overrode the default of 128 bytes here though I don't
think it will hurt you
TXDELAY 18
Are you sure this is enough time for your radio to key up? Until you
get things working 100%, I would recommend to set this to something
conservative like 30 (aka.. 300ms)
UIDIGI ON WIDE1-1
Are you sure you don't want to support WIDE2-1 as well?
--David
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Re: [Xastir] Send message function broken on Ubuntu Linux?
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: Well I'll be darned! I had no idea that worked. Yes, I was able to pase into the message text box that way. However the CTRL-X, CRTL-C, and CTRL-V keys all work in the rest of my ubuntu applications. We had to hack into the event stream many years back to catch a bunch of events and process them ourselves. I'm sure we didn't fully implement handling/pass-through of events we didn't care about at the time. It could be way back when that this broke (many years ago) unless this is a recent thing for you. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Windows ate my homework! Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] constant warnings in term after update and ipv6 might be partially broken again
Warning: Name: create_appshell text_input2 Class: XmTextField Charater '\260' not supported in font. Discarded I seem to remember such messages from several years back. I'll search through my email archives to see if there was a solution. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Send message function broken on Ubuntu Linux?
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: Even when things are working normally, cut/Paste don't work in xastir on Ubuntu using CTRL-X, CTRL-V, so I wouldn't expect them to work for Dave. I don't ever use control-x/control-v. Is that a Windows thing? What about copying/pasting with the mouse buttons, the Linux/Unix way? Select with the left button, paste with the middle button (or both buttons if you don't have a middle). -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Send message function broken on Ubuntu Linux?
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, David A Aitcheson wrote: Warning: Name: create_appshell text_output2 Class: XmTextField Character '\260' not supported in font. Discarded. David Flood reported these as well, and I'm seeing them too. Most likely a result of the changes I did to get the Greek language added, or those just prior. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Position data from Xastir not accepted by Yaesu FTM-400 or Direwolf
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: Thanks Tom, I have updated to the new version. Glad to know there was a reason for that strange behavior and that it has been fixed. Yea, thanks! Sometimes oddnesses creep in but hopefully get caught quickly. Sorry I missed one. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS in Search and Rescue: http://we7u.wetnet.net/search_and_rescue.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Greek Language
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, Curt, WE7U wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, Curt, WE7U wrote: Looks like I jumped the gun as the encoding is incorrect. Hopefully more to come later. More has come: https://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Languages Got Greek working! I had one instruction wrong regarding xfontsel on the web page. Updated it. You must quit that program to get it to pass the selected font back to Xastir. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Greek Language
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, Curt, WE7U wrote: Looks like I jumped the gun as the encoding is incorrect. Hopefully more to come later. More has come: https://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Languages Got Greek working! -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Greek Language
Looks like I jumped the gun as the encoding is incorrect. Hopefully more to come later. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." - unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." - WE7U. Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Greek Language
Thanks to Konstantina Stamopoulou we now have a Greek language file in Xastir! I integrated that into the Xastir Git version on Github. Feel free to test and report back. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Position data from Xastir not accepted by Yaesu FTM-400 or Direwolf
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: Can you explain what you mean by "third party packet?" The packet I'm showing here is generated by xastir when I go to the interface menu and click "transmit now." Look up "APRS101.pdf". Third-party packets are explained in there. If you want to know about APRS protocol the above document as well as some of the addendums (only on web pages for those) by Bob Bruninga, WB4APR, are required reading. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Position data from Xastir not accepted by Yaesu FTM-400 or Direwolf
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: [0.6] KW4TOM>APX211,WIDE2-2:KW4TOM>APX211,TCPIP*:=3023.43NT08705.80W<0x0d> I may be misinterpreting the output format of direwolf but it looks to me like there's an extra set of addresses represented as text in the body of the message. Thus the body starts with the 'K' of KW4TOM whereas it should start with the APRS data type ID of '=' Yeah, looks like a corrupt third party packet. I think there should be a } after the first : That matches the error message, too. Hmm, interesting. So that means Xastir is generating a corrupt packet. Any idea why? I think I've come to that conclusion as well. Saw this: http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2017-October/064877.html Which looks like Direwolf is complaining about the first character after the first ':', which is a 'K' in this case. It looks like a third-party packet that is malformed. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Position data from Xastir not accepted by Yaesu FTM-400 or Direwolf
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: OK, I updated to 1.5, but still get the same error. Did you try adding a space at the start of your comment yet? You've got the "73" part of your comment butting up against the PHG numbers, so it probably thinks the PHG is invalid. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Position data from Xastir not accepted by Yaesu FTM-400 or Direwolf
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: I had noticed that the position information for my Xastir digi wasn't showing up in my mobile (FTM-400). Today I was playing around with DireWolf and noticed the "Unknown message type K" error. Is this something I have set wrong in my Xastir config? Strangely enough, when i create map objects and transmit their location, the location info works just fine. Here's the error message I saw in DireWolf KW4TOM audio level = 45(22/9) [NONE] | [0.6] KW4TOM>APX211,WIDE2-2:KW4TOM>APX211,TCPIP*:=3023.43NT08705.80W to all! Gulf Breeze Digi/iGate<0x0d> Unknown message type K, Xastir The unusual things I see are the 'T' where the '/' or '\' should be between latitude and longitude (didn't consult the spec to see whether that was valid or what it means), and the "PHG" is too long... I think you need a space between the PHG numbers and the comment. I don't know why it says "Unknown message type K", as the only K's I see are in the callsigns. Ah, consulted the spec: 'T' is an alpha overlay, so that part should be good. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Berkeley DB header files/shared library file do NOT match!
The code is in xastir/src/map_cache.c:map_cache_init() Notice there that debug level 5 will dump out the two strings it is comparing. Start Xastir from an xterm with "-v 5" and report back to us what the two strings say on your system. It might make sense there to always print out the two strings if/when the warning is printed. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Berkeley DB header files/shared library file do NOT match!
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, David Ranch wrote: I just noticed when I start Xastir from the terminal, I see: * WARNING * Berkeley DB header files/shared library file do NOT match! Disabling use of the map cache. Header file: Berkeley DB 4.7.25: (September 22, 2015) Library file: Berkeley DB 4.7.25: (March 22, 2017) * WARNING * These should be the important packages: db4-4.7.25-22.el6.x86_64 db4-devel-4.7.25-22.el6.x86_64 Maybe Centos is getting confused between the db4 and compat-db42? This is on Xastir 2.0.9 (old I know). Interesting. I wonder if the code in Xastir is keying off the version-and-date string instead of just the version string. I added that check because w/o it Xastir was falling over when the Berkeley DB header files and .so didn't match. Ideally the check code should just be looking at that "4.7.25" number. I'll check into this. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Tom Russo wrote: Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. That's really funny! I think I'll use that. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: Some old and really bad nightmares still begin with, "It's just Perl". I'll see about loading it up, and adding a dongle. Should be straightforward at home. There _may_ be others on the Xastir list that know a little Perl and can help... Perl: The first write-only language? -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate wrote: I've gotta carve out a few more minutes for Xastir. You guys are having too much fun. Hmmm. I can hack the code to just track CAP aircraft, can't I? Yea, I don't know why not... It's just Perl. Should be super-simple to do with a regex. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Usage Pages: http://we7u.wetnet.net/usage.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Viewing real-time Aircraft and Ships w/Xastir
The Wiki page about viewing real-time positions of aircraft and ships has been revamped. There should be enough detail to easily replicate what Ken (n7ipb) and I have been doing for a while, including screenshots of the equipment required, snapshots of the Xastir displays, and a script to make it easy to start everything up. http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships Enjoy. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] wx data and stream to map
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, k4xtt wrote: port 14580 sends me absolutely nothing. Filter or no filter Because you need to enable transmit and transmit so the servers know where you are (for the range filter). You also need a filter in the config for that server. My filter against the Firenet servers is: s//Q -s//a -s//0 t/n -pGAGE-6 o/STEAM/UP844 e/WE7U-WX b/K6RPT* m/800 You should be able to put "m/800" in the box in Xastir, transmit once (or wait for Xastir to), and start seeing packets come in. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] wx data and stream to map
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, vea12bore wrote: Don't know what to think. My weather stream is getting into the aprs net stream as viewed on findu, but is not showing up at all on my map in Xastir. Here's what is supposedly going out: K4XTT>APRS,TCPIP*,qAC,CWOP-2:@172110z3836.00N/07846.00W_196/002g007t081r000p039P038b09677h68.WD 190 Is there anybody with ideas as to why it is not showing up on the map, and I have my call and verification number correctly entered. I'm thinking that I'm not getting in the stream from aprs servers. No filters set on the server interface and using "second.aprs.net 10152" What should I be looking for, and thanks in advance You should see your own Xastir station on it's map. Check your "Station -> Filter Data" and "Station->Filter Display" menus. If the above _is_ your Xastir station then it's probably just those local filtering settings. You say the K4XTT station above is not appearing in Xastir: Should I assume that it is a different station than the Xastir station? If the weather station is a separate station and you're not seeing it on the Xastir map, it could be because: * You need a range filter in Xastir or some other filter to pull it in from the servers. * You're using a range filter in Xastir but not transmitting your location so the servers don't know what's in range of your Xastir station. * You're using a range filter in Xastir but the weather station is not within the range of where you said Xastir was located. * Some other filter is in place but not performing as you intended when you wrote it. * Filter Display or Filter Data settings are wrong for what you're trying to view. Those are what I can think of in short order. Server-side Filter Commands. You use these against port 14580 instead of 10152: http://www.aprs-is.net/javaprsfilter.aspx 10152 is a full feed. Most people use the filtered port instead these days to reduce the amount of traffic they're pulling down, often with a range filter. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net U.S. Weather Alerts: Firenet.aprs2.net, port 14580, filter "t/n e/WE7U-WX" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Weather Stations
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, Michael Picco wrote: I too run the Vantage Pro 2, however, mine connects to a Raspberry Pi 2, which send data to NWS as well as Weather Underground, then my own serial connection to a 2-meter rig which reports to APRS. All the info to do this was found online. It just depends on how much reporting you want to do. Just curious, does anyone run the ADS-WS1 weather station from ArgentData? https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=135 -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] path question
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, mlhpub wrote: Thanks for this interesting explanation with the origin of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 (usefull with old APRS materials). Yea, he did a good job. Jason: Take a look at the latest page and clean up anything that is technically wrong or that I messed up while formatting/editing. Feel free to send changes to me if you don't have Wiki write access. I don't remember who does/doesn't have it. http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:PATHS -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] path question
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, Jason KG4WSV wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:55 AM Curt, WE7U wrote:
Can I turn all of your message into a Wiki page on Xastir.org? Would be cool to
point people at the link. Might help quite a few over the coming years.
Sure. Feel free to make the first wiki update as you go and fix my
typos, like there's an "nd" instead of "and" and WIDE should have been
WIDE1-1 (or RELAY, not sure what I was thinking).
First cut. Feel free to edit.
I changed a couple of "WIDE" entries, added "RELAY", added the historical note.
Still needs to be "prettied-up" with headings and the like but the basic info
is there:
https://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:PATHS
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Re: [Xastir] path question
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, Jason KG4WSV wrote: An AX.25 path is called "source routing" in general networking terminology. Can I turn all of your message into a Wiki page on Xastir.org? Would be cool to point people at the link. Might help quite a few over the coming years. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Client Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] path question
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: Is there a good explanation of paths and how they work in APRS someone could refer me to? I see bits and pieces out there, but nothing comprehensive tat explains it from the ground up. How about this for a start? http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=Paths For the most part you've got WIDE1-1 that signifies one hop in all directions from -either- a home digipeater -or- a mountaintop digi, and WIDEn-N higher than one, which will get you digipeated by only a mountaintop digi. Put them together for a mobile and you get: WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 For a base station perhaps WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2, or WIDE3-3. Gives you three hops in all directions using your neighbor and the mountaintops, or just the mountaintops, depending on how well you get out and whether you need that "assist" up to the mountaintops. I think around here (Western WA) a lot of people run WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 or just WIDE2-2 for home stations, as the coverage is pretty good and you don't usually need to go three hops. If you see anything online that talks about RELAY or WIDE (without the n-N portion) ignore it as it's many years too old. We haven't used those in decades. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] path question
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018, MJ Inabnit wrote: I have an Igate running APRX and has my TNC connected to it. On Mondays, I run a short APRS check in net, so I fire up xastir to qsl each check-in. However, I would like to send a qst prior to the net to remind locals nearish to check in, hence my desire to ensure once I send out a qst, it will at least get routed through my Igate. In Xastir you set your outgoing RF path on the particular interface connected to the radio/TNC. I have also had issues when using xastir where local hams in range of my Igate didn't get the packets via the aprs servers which can be rather frustrating. Inet traffic to RF is typically messages, ack's, and nak's, -only- if the station they're heading to has been heard by that particular Igate within the last hour on RF. Anything else heading to RF from Inet would require additions to the nws-stations.txt file in Xastir. Note that it can be used for more than just sending weather alerts to RF. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS in Search and Rescue: http://we7u.wetnet.net/search_and_rescue.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] path question
On Mon, 27 Aug 2018, MJ Inabnit wrote: I have xastir running via internet connect, however, I would like to figure out a path so it would push packets to my Igate with a wide path of 2-2 to make it over the mountain. Is there a way to do that? Need more data. Is your igate a separate bit of S/W, or the same instance of Xastir? What packets are you wanting to send over the mountain? Your own packets from Xastir? Other packets? -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Gating weather data to RF
On Mon, 27 Aug 2018, Alejandro Arroyo wrote: I have a station running xastir for several years now (HP1COO). I also have a weather station (not APRS compatible) that sends data using my callsign (HP1COO-13) to CWOP. This data is visible on aprs.fi. Is there a way to configure xastir to forward the weather data from this station to RF? I only want to forward to RF metereological data of the area. I read this might be done configuring the file nws-stations.txt ? If you do a grep for "nws-stations.txt" in the Xastir main directory you'll find info in ChangeLog and README about it. That might lead you to read a bit more igate.h/igate.c as well, depending on how curious you get and what you want to do. If the packet is already gated to APRS-IS (sounds like it's not) then with the correct entries in that file Xastir may be able to gate them to RF. Since you're sending them only to CWOP right now, it may not be possible. Others may be able to answer whether you can (or should) connect to APRS-IS -and- CWOP with Xastir at the same time. If that's a reasonable thing to do, then you might be able to gate them to RF using this method. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Windows ate my homework! Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Added to Git: U.S. Tiger WMS Maps
On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Ken Koster wrote: I have the same issue Tom does, and no amount of tweaking of the transparent line in the .geo file makes it work. Then it could be a Graphicsmagick/Imagemagick issue I suppose. Which one are you running? GM for me. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." - unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." - WE7U. Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Added to Git: U.S. Tiger WMS Maps
On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Tom Henderson wrote: Looks great! However, I can't get the borders to overlay any other map. The transparency doesn't seem to be working. Yea, was working for me, but the .geo for that one may have to be re-worked for different depths of displays and such. I have U.S. Counties and State Boundaries Shapefiles I can use as well. No issues with transparency 'cuz they are vector maps. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Added to Git: U.S. Tiger WMS Maps
I added these files to Git this week: USTigermap.geo USTigermapBorders.geo Remember the Tigermap server we used to have? This is the new equivalent. They are useful for U.S.-based mapping and come from U.S. Census Bureau's data. I made the background of the 2nd one transparent so it will overlay the first and give you county/state borders. Since they come from two different servers I couldn't get borders on the first one alone. These should work great with map-caching as well. They'll install into /usr/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/ I'm in the middle of removing the code for the old Tigermap server (now defunct) and for Tiger/Line files (they switched to ESRI Shapefile format now). Unfortunately Tiger/Line and SDTS are both in the GDAL section of code and I can't get SDTS files to work anymore. Once I sort that out I'll commit those changes and Xastir will be a bit leaner. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] iGate function
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018, Peter Mallett wrote: Anyhow, the radio side is working as I think it should, the inet port is working as it should I believe and in both places I have the Inet > Radio and Radio > inet buttons pressed. Now, I do not get any traffic sent from inet to the radio port, this is without the station being heard on inet otherwise it wouldn`t be rebroadcast on radio. First, there are definitely two places to enable: One under File->Config and one under the the Interface menu and specific radio interface you're using. Next: Xastir will only gate messages and ACK's/NAK's through to the radio side by default, and only if the particular station was heard on THAT radio interface. If you want to gate specific other packets through, check out the "nws-stations.txt" file in section 7 of the README file distributed with Xastir. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS: Where it's at! http://www.xastir.org Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] ?APRSD queries reporting all rx trafic including adsb, ais...
On Fri, 22 Jun 2018, F1MHV wrote: ?Bonjour? Gilles, Don?t stop-it but may be there is way to restrict the adsb forward from YAAC to xastir, or? I thought you had the adsb-rx connected directly to Xastir as per http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships Agreed, don't stop it! I wrote the ADS-B and AIS scripts which convert the other protocols to APRS packets and inject them on Xastir's UDP port. It may be a bit tricky figuring out how to mark them as "special" so the APRS query ignores them. It probably should be looked at to see whether it's possible. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS in Search and Rescue: http://we7u.wetnet.net/search_and_rescue.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] rtl_ais
On Wed, 30 May 2018, Menga wrote: For running ais.pl, in the head comment, it is written the script: ./ais.pl boats [--pipe] [?logging] I changed boats with my callsign, then I enabled server ports in Xastir. The script was executed correctly without the previous error on the passcode, and the program was waiting for messages to send, without time out (time out appeared if the server ports were not enabled). Conclusions: in the script ?boats? is a placeholder for the callsign, the server port on Xastir has to be enabled to guarantee the communication. Contrary to my belief, no cross control is performed from the callsign in Xastir and the passcode in ais.pl, but directly from the data in the script. I?m not on the sea to receive AIS messages, but I think that the program now works. Use "boats" as the callsign. That triggers Xastir -not- to gate any of the data on. Use "planes" or "p1anes" as the callsign for the ads-b stuff, same reason. The passcode for each can be discovered in the usual way. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] rtl_ais
This howto file here: http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships I added more to that page, including examples. Might help you get going. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] rtl_ais
On Tue, 29 May 2018, Menga wrote: In fact I followed the comments on top of the file ais.pl. I was able to compile and run the ais decoder rtl_ais, I executed xastir, but when I started, with a script, ais.pl I get the answer: Received NACK from Xastir: Callsign/passcode don't match? My callsign is written in the running instance of Xastir, and the passcode is passed by the script to ais.pl. BTW my callsign and passcode are well tested because I use them in other APRS programs. I read: ais.pl creates a UDP server at localhost:10110 for the ais decoder, decodes AIS sentences, creates APRS packets and send them to Xastir's server port (2023) via UDP. I even created in Xastir a new internet interface localhost:2023, but I receive always the same answer from ais.pl. Did you do "Interface"->"Enable Server Ports" in Xastir? That enables Xastir's port 2023. If so, it could be a firewall that is preventing them from talking. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." - unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." - WE7U. Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Any ideas for Xastir
On Tue, 29 May 2018, Jason KG4WSV wrote: And not to start a religious war, but as a coding style should that be 7L instead of 7l to avoid confusion with 71 if one isn't paying close enough attention? grep "l\;" *.c Finds 300+ instances of it, some of which are constant definitions. Someone better with regex at the command-line could add (0-9)+ prior to the 'l' and eliminate a bunch of them. Of course searching for 'l' doesn't work at all. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Any ideas for Xastir
On Tue, 29 May 2018, Jason KG4WSV wrote: And not to start a religious war, but as a coding style should that be 7L instead of 7l to avoid confusion with 71 if one isn't paying close enough attention? Yes. Feel free to change it anywhere you see it. I find it non-obvious when 'l' is used. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Any ideas for Xastir
On Thu, 24 May 2018, F1MHV wrote: 2- Message timer Other stations, digi or igate, are sometimes slow to react facing Xastir which retry a message quickly after the first sent. I noticed this "aggressive" behavior especially with slow links (300bds HF). Can we imagine an adjustable timer for this parameter ? Because it looks progressive when retries are growing (APRS specs ?), 3 steps could be possible : - quite - normal - aggressive In src/messages.c I found this: // Start at 7 seconds for the interval. We set // it to 7 seconds in output_message() above. // Double the interval each retry until we hit // 10 minutes. Keep transmitting at 10 minute // intervals until we hit MAX_TRIES. // Double the interval between messages message_pool[i].next_time = message_pool[i].next_time * 2; The "next_time" value is the number of seconds we add to the current time before retrying. It is initially set to 7l (that's an 'L'), plus there's a reset command that can get the message kick-started again by kicking off an immediate transmit and again setting next_time to 7l (that's an 'L'). As a quick fix you could go in and change the "7l" to something larger if you want to slow things down for 300 baud HF stuff. Of course recompile/reinstall afterwards. Search for: messages.c:kick_outgoing_timer() messages.c:output_message() If you're interested in messing with the max time between retries of 10 minutes, just search for "next_time" in messages.c and you'll find that too. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] rtl_ais
This howto file here: http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Display_Aircraft_and_Ships Says info on how to use each script (AIS and ADS-B) is in the header of each script. "less ais.pl" will get you there. Glad you got it going! It's definitely fun to see Ships and Airplanes (if you have two dongles) on the screen at the same time as APRS stuff. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." - unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." - WE7U. Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] compiling and installing xastir using git on aRaspberri pi
On Thu, 24 May 2018, Menga wrote: Thanks to everybody, with your help I got it. Now I'm back in business Excellent. Good to hear! -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS: Where it's at! http://www.xastir.org Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] compiling and installing xastir using git on aRaspberri pi
On Thu, 24 May 2018, Curt, WE7U wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2018, Menga wrote: 6) Running aclocal... ./bootstrap.sh: 15: ./bootstrap.sh: aclocal: not found 5) Running autoheader... ./bootstrap.sh: 18: ./bootstrap.sh: autoheader: not found 4) Running autoconf... ./bootstrap.sh: 21: ./bootstrap.sh: autoconf: not found 3) running automake... ./bootstrap.sh: 25: ./bootstrap.sh: automake: not found Go look up each error message w/Google. Install the correct packages on the Rpi so that it can find the aclocal, autoheader, autoconf, and automake commands. The installation notes here may help you: http://xastir.org/index.php/Installation_Notes#Raspbian -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] compiling and installing xastir using git on aRaspberri pi
On Thu, 24 May 2018, Menga wrote: 6) Running aclocal... ./bootstrap.sh: 15: ./bootstrap.sh: aclocal: not found 5) Running autoheader... ./bootstrap.sh: 18: ./bootstrap.sh: autoheader: not found 4) Running autoconf... ./bootstrap.sh: 21: ./bootstrap.sh: autoconf: not found 3) running automake... ./bootstrap.sh: 25: ./bootstrap.sh: automake: not found Go look up each error message w/Google. Install the correct packages on the Rpi so that it can find the aclocal, autoheader, autoconf, and automake commands. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Any ideas for Xastir
On Sat, 19 May 2018, MLHPUB wrote: May I suggest 3 ideas for Xastir after few years of use ? 1- Queries It should be great if Xastir could answer APRS queries (?aprsh or ?aprsd for instance, and others). These are really usefull to test stations capabilities especially on HF (or other bands of course) when propgation is good ! Some queries are implemented in src/db.c:process_directed_query() and process_query(). Others could be implemented there fairly easily if someone had the time/desire to do so. I don't have the time right now but perhaps someone else will pick this up. 2- Message timer Other stations, digi or igate, are sometimes slow to react facing Xastir which retry a message quickly after the first sent. I noticed this "aggressive" behavior especially with slow links (300bds HF). Can we imagine an adjustable timer for this parameter ? Because it looks progressive when retries are growing (APRS specs ?), 3 steps could be possible : - quite - normal - aggressive As I recall Xastir does an exponential backoff on message ack's up to a max delay. The initial delay is optimized for 1200-baud simplex links but it quickly backs off: There shouldn't be many transmissions before it backs off sufficiently for any link speed. I'm not sure another scheme is warranted here but that initial delay could perhaps be made changeable. It would require several files to be changed including the GUI. 3- Data and messages views Data view and messages view are really usefull to monitor trafic but I think date and time informations are missing. How about add this in a short field for each line on these monitor windows ? Seems reasonable as long as the windows don't get extended horizontally much. Alternately could throw timestamps in on another line above them and not extend the window. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Help with Maps
On Tue, 8 May 2018, Joseph Chiarelli wrote: I didn?t realize that ?Online? selects everything. As you both suspected, it was the mapquest-aerial and mapquest ones giving the issue. Playing further, i think i need to go with the Offline maps. I thought it saved the online maps to cache, but it seems to download the tiles everytime i move the map around. Well... Kind'a. Try using the arrow keys to move around and picking particular zoom levels using the pageup/pagedown keys and you'll stick to tiles you've downloaded before. If you deviate from that the map caching gets lost and tries to pull in new ones. You can also set a map bookmark for a starting position/zoom level so that you can get back into the tiles if you accidentally stray. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS in Search and Rescue: http://we7u.wetnet.net/search_and_rescue.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Help with Maps
On Tue, 8 May 2018, Joseph Chiarelli wrote: I selected Map Chooser and selected online as https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcmhu3ulrsqzgvp/Screenshot%202018-05-08%2016.17.55.png?dl=0 From what I read, Mapquest Developer Network dropped http support in lieu of https. I just don?t see how to configure the URL for mapquest. Or maybe thats not possible ? Don't select the line titled "Online". That selects EVERYTHING in that directory, some of which might work, some not. You want to pick one line below that only. Since they're raster maps they'll just pile on top of each other and you'll just see the last one loaded otherwise, plus you'll get the added timeouts from the ones that don't work. Try them one at a time and see which works for you. As one other person said the Mapquest server may not be available to us anymore. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Windows ate my homework! Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Help with Maps
One of my favorite maps at the moment is Tigermaps in Shapefile format. Those are not online maps though: I download the areas of interest, then don't need the 'net. Xastir renders Shapefile-format maps very quickly. They are vector maps, so scale nicely also. I haven't checked whether we're set up for the latest-latest Tigermaps as far as Xastir dbfawk files to go with them. Hah! Just checked and I'm running Tiger-2008 maps on this machine. Guess that's not the latest! Looks like 2017 is the latest: https://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/tiger.html -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Help with Maps
On Tue, 8 May 2018, Joseph Chiarelli wrote: I need some help with Maps. I selected the online maps and it see some detailed maps display, but I see this error in the console. You selected "the online maps"... How? Sounds like you might have selected the directory instead of the files within, which selects every type of Online map source, working or not, and overlays them all on top of each other. Since the Online map sources are currently all raster-based images, you'll only see the last map loaded. Try expanding your view and trying the map sources one at a time. Figure out which ones work for you and which don't, then only select one of them. They'll load faster that way too. The urls aren?t valid. Is there a spot for other online maps? Xastir has outlived many sources of maps. We can't guarantee that any of the sources are currently valid as they come and go. Yea, you can add your own. Check out README.MAPS or this online version of similar: http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:MAPS You'll find slightly different information in the file and the online version as they're almost never in sync. The one in the Xastir sources would be the most up-to-date. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Intel microcode updates incompatible with some processors and/or Linux kernels
Just a warning: I'm starting to see a few boxes (Ubuntu in this case) that don't come back from a reboot. Intel is updating microcode for Spectre and Meltdown, but some of the Linux kernels have to be tweaked. If you get a mis-match between the microcode and the kernel, on certain processors, you might end up with the same issue. The fix for now is to boot into an older kernel, which hopefully has the older microcode matched with it. I'm seeing it on the Ubuntu 4.13.0-37 and -38 kernels. The fix on two machines so far was to boot into the -36 kernel. bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1759920 Near the end of the bug report a patched kernel was promised in about two weeks. I'd suggest not deleting older kernels for a while so you have them to boot into. I suspect this problem will spread to other Linux distributions so don't think you're safe if you don't run Ubuntu. Note: I don't run it either, I run OpenSUSE and CentOS mostly. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Windows ate my homework! Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Be glad that Xastir moved to GitHub
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018, Kurt wrote: I just gotta learn how to use the danged thing so I can download what I need.Kurt KC9LDH Saw your message today. Went back to your earlier message with the comment above to say this: On the Xastir.org homepage is a "Software" section. First sentence has a link "available via Git". Click on that to go to the Wiki page that explains what to do. It's pretty nice once you get used to the new method. There's a bit more to learn if you're a developer. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net U.S. Weather Alerts: Firenet.aprs2.net, port 14580, filter "t/n e/WE7U-WX" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir-dev] Xastir-qt
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018, Apostolos Kefalas wrote: I have created some Dialogs, like "Default Settings" and "Configure Timing". They do not do something at the moment though. But I am stuck in the "Incoming Data" dialog. Although I have moved the functions that printed the incoming data to the main window, to the incomingdatadialog.cpp and everything is compiling/running without any error from QTcreator I do not see any data printed in the Incoming Data Dialog textBox. I must be doing something wrong with the "connect/signal/slot" mechanism. Any help from the QT experts would be greatly appreciated. I don't know if you'll find any Qt experts here... Only a couple of us have played with the Qt branch so far, and that was a while ago. I hope to get back to playing with it but not for several months yet. You can certainly look at the current working code to see how the signal/slot code was implemented. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net U.S. Weather Alerts: Firenet.aprs2.net, port 14580, filter "t/n e/WE7U-WX" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
Re: [Xastir] Autostart Xastir
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018, Jason Godfrey wrote: If you are using Raspian (or another systemd based distro) using systemd might be a good way to do it. See https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/usage/systemd.md I've written one or two systemd startup scripts now. They are simpler to write by far than init.d scripts. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Autostart Xastir
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018, Jason KG4WSV wrote: On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:38 AM, Tom Henderson <t...@henderson4.us> wrote: Correction: based on time *or system startup.* Which is why it might be a good fit here. As Curt pointed out, the @reboot keyword can be used. That still fails to address the issue of X11 security and access to the server. Plus it adds the additional problem that cron starts early in the boot process, so it could easily be executing your commands _before_ the window manager is started. (As a side note, I suspect this hack of cron is a workaround for the travesty that is systemd.) Agreed on the above. I sent my note about "@reboot" prior to reading the rest of the thread. When I was setting up an Rpi to auto-start things I relied on the window manager features for it rather than CRON. On multiple Ubuntu boxes at work I use the "@reboot" feature of crond to run scripts for setting up GPIB, stuff like that. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Autostart Xastir
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Floyd Rodgers wrote: Read about crontab. Make an entry in the crontab file. There's a special keyword you can use in place of the 5 time/date pieces in your crontab. Replace those five bits with "@reboot" Check your cron man pages to assure it has this keyword. I found it in "man 5 crontab" -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Info
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Tom Russo wrote: That is, unless Curt is just dying to jump in and take this over, in which case he should reassign the bug to himself: You're funny. I'm in final preparations for a multi-hour in-the-field test of my H/W units tomorrow. No time! -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net U.S. Weather Alerts: Firenet.aprs2.net, port 14580, filter "t/n e/WE7U-WX" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir-dev] How many years should we go back? (library compatibility)
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Tom Russo wrote: My proposal is that we shoot for 5 years back. If a library has deprecated a function and a new one replaced it 5 or more years ago, we should be good to replace that section of code with the new function w/o maintaining backwards compatibility with the earlier function call. Any takers on 5 years? Different suggestions? 5 years seems reasonable to me. Some distros are *extremely* conservative and may have long term support versions (staring angrily at RHEL, frex). Any dissenting opinions out there? The code I was thinking of whacking is actually there to support old versions of Magick from over 15 years ago. I think it should be very safe to clean it out. Agreed. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." - unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." - WE7U. Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
[Xastir-dev] ImageMagick vs. GraphicsMagick
Started a thread to get a quick discussion going so answers can be derived soon from it. I much prefer GraphicsMagick over ImageMagick for a variety of reasons. GM is a fork of IM, but is more stable. That being said, I find myself sometimes installing a Linux that doesn't have GM so I pick IM instead, knowing that Xastir will work with either. As for me, I'm willing to take on the burden of installing from source for those cases where the Linux that doesn't have a GM package available. Most people would rather not install from sources though. Will we be putting any burden on users if we force the use of GM and cut out IM support, for those that don't have GM as a standard package? That's about my only concern. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS in Search and Rescue: http://we7u.wetnet.net/search_and_rescue.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
[Xastir-dev] How many years should we go back? (library compatibility)
Watching all this activity from Tom makes me wonder if we should have a quick discussion about how many years we should attempt to maintain compatibility with odd features / odd libraries via #ifdef's? As in we have #ifdef's for various ImageMagick "oopses" so that we can work around problems in the library, but some of these are MANY years back. My proposal is that we shoot for 5 years back. If a library has deprecated a function and a new one replaced it 5 or more years ago, we should be good to replace that section of code with the new function w/o maintaining backwards compatibility with the earlier function call. Any takers on 5 years? Different suggestions? -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
Re: [Xastir-dev] New release coming up soon, old release "regenerated" on Github, call for discussion
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018, Tom Russo wrote: Yesterday I checked and Xastir.org had an IPv6 address returned by DNS queries. Today it does not. Looks like Curt took care of this. Yep. Until I have time to figure out why routing to/fro on IPv6 doesn't work it seemed like the best option. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
Re: [Xastir-dev] New release coming up soon, old release "regenerated" on Github, call for discussion
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, David Brooke G6GZH wrote: With the mention of the wiki I was just having a look at it and it seemed slow - looks like IPv6 routing is broken from me at least traceroute to xastir.org (2001:1868:205::1001) from 2001:8b0:3d7:1:c9ac:a899:bdcb:1d59, 30 hops max, 24 byte packets I've not made a concerted effort to get the site up on IPv6. It has an address, but no specific changes were made to enable/route/firewall IPv6. If I were to put forth effort on that I'd also need to upgrade/config "fail2ban" for IPv6 to keep from getting hassled by script-kiddies. I don't currently have a way to test IPv6 from work or home. Is IPv6 truly needed? -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
Re: [Xastir-dev] New release coming up soon, old release "regenerated" on Github, call for discussion
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Tom Russo wrote: If there is anyone who would like to take on tasks of wiki clean-up (it's pretty stale) and documentation proofreading, please jump on board. If anyone points out particular pages / sections of pages that need updating I can do some. If they contain install instructions for OS'es I don't use I'd rather not touch them 'cuz I'd just do further damage. Sorry I haven't been involved much lately: I'm distracted on other projects right now. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
Re: [Xastir] AX 25 networking kernel warnings --- heads up all AX.25 users Re: Error in Syslog
On Mon, 5 Feb 2018, Jason KG4WSV wrote: without this kernel support, AX.25 becomes just another application. To put this into the simplest terms possible (I'm really good at simple thinking!): If AX.25 has kernel networking support we can often treat it like an ethernet or wireless interface and route packets in/out using completely normal networking software and techniques. A program doesn't have to be modified specifically for AX.25 in order to use it with that interface: I could start up a mail program or a web server and tell it to use that device for instance. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir-dev] Has the IPV6 stuff been merged into the mainline?
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018, Jason Godfrey wrote: It is in mainline. There is a bug I plan on fixing this weekend that might be causing this. Is there any output in the window you run xastir from that seems relevant? Also, is there a tag that David can check out from to bypass this one until it gets fixed? -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir-dev mailing list Xastir-dev@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir-dev
Re: [Xastir] Xastir not digipeating, can't figure out why.
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, Aaron Vogel wrote: I guess I have another, perhaps more fundamental question: how do I control _what_ gets digipeated? For example, if I want it to act as a fill-in and only digipeat WIDE1-1... where would I tell it to do this? If I wanted it to digipeat everything... where would I tell it to do this? You don't. Xastir was not designed to be a wide-area digipeater. It can only function as a fill-in digipeater, digi'ing only on WIDE1-1. If you're seeing packets come in that already have been digipeated on the WIDE1-1 path, Xastir won't digipeat them again. If you want full control over digipeating and want to do something more than what Xastir does, you'll probably want to run Digi_ned to do that. You can run Digi_ned and Xastir at the same time. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] what is the color code for attached devices?
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017, Tom Russo wrote: The code that paints these things isn't something I can locate quickly to see how it works. Perhaps Curt knows where it is and can give a more definitive list of color/type mappings. Hah. Had to search a bit. I've forgotten a lot about the code. src/interface_gui.c:interface_status() Is the start of it. Different symbols selected based on type of port, then the symbol is passed off to: src/draw_symbols.c:symbol() -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] newbie... problems with compiling from source
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017, Tom Russo wrote: It sounds like bootstrap didn't work, because bootstrap is supposed to create configure in the Xastir source tree. Could you post the output of bootstrap.sh and perhaps the output of "ls -lrt" in the top-level Xastir directory? It would probably be good to add a test for "automake", "autoconf", etc into the "update-xastir" script to produce legible instructions to the user. Could request them to install or otherwise make those tools runnable from $PATH... For people new to compiling, or compiling using GNU tools, I'm sure it's confusing. Add to that the complexity of looking through "config.status" to figure out why Imagemagick or Graphicsmagick didn't compile in and you've got some serious befuddled users. Not that any of the above has anything directly to do with this thread, but it's only a single step sideways from the topic. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." - unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." - WE7U. Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Movable zoomanble maps
On Fri, 1 Dec 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: Could you point me to where I can turn on map caching? I’ve looked everywhere and must have missed it. As I recall it has to do with Berkeley DB / Sleepycad DB. You have to have the dblib package and the header package that matches the version number. Sometimes you can get crossed up with a different version number for the library as oppposed to the header package, or get multiple libraries installed and the header package only matches one of them. Try to get only one library and one header package installed. Sometimes you end up with a very old compatibility library package and a newer lib package, plus a header package for the new one: That seems to work. Hope that's not too many words to describe something relatively simple. Ask more to the list if you get into trouble. The main thing is, if you try to remove a package and all of a sudden your package manager says it wants to remove 10-50 packages because of it, don't do it: That's probably the old compatibility package they all depend upon. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Cygwin Users?
On Fri, 1 Dec 2017, Kurt wrote: How about Windows 8 on a TW801 tablet? Possible? I'm no Windows expert, but if it's Windows 8 RT? you might have some trouble getting much to run on it. If it's a more normal x86 processor and Windows 8, I would think some of the earlier (pre-Win10) instructions for Xastir should work to get it running. Hopefully others that know more about Windows will answer with more specifics. The only time I run Windows anymore is off a couple of dual-boot laptops, for programming radios. Most of my radio programming can be done with Chirp on Linux these days, but I still have a few hold-outs. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS in Search and Rescue: http://we7u.wetnet.net/search_and_rescue.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Movable zoomanble maps
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: Thanks for this. I tried what you suggest and like it. The only problem though is that my internet connection is not very fast and zooming and panning when using online maps is not very smooth as a result. I would prefer to use offline maps. I downloaded Ontario-latest.osm.pbf but I imagine one needs to do further processing on that before using it because it does not show up in Map Chooser. I will investigate a bit further using your suggested reading to see how I can implement offline mapping. Make sure you have map caching enabled for one. You must have the correct libraries installed when you compile & use Xastir for that to take effect. It's not a perfect solution, but it helps in some cases. If you want to run totally offline though, don't bother with it and see the next paragraph. You might want to read README.MAPS to see some of the other options available. If you're after vector maps, I'd suggest looking around for OSM extracts in ESRI Shapefile format. Xastir handles those nicely and very fast. I used to use Cloudmade OSM Extracts but I'm not sure whether those are still available. Here's a place you can read about that type of map: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Movable zoomanble maps
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: At present I am using static maps with xastir but am interested if xastir can use zoomable google maps (or similar). I read something on the xastir archive that pointed in a direction but could not find any followup. Could someone please direct me to where I could download such maps. Thanks. I'm using "Online/OSM_tiled_mapnik.geo" maps right now on mine, which are tiled bitmaps rather than vector maps. If you're running one of the later Xastir versions that should work for you also. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Closed-minded about open (-source)... Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Movable zoomanble maps
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: At present I am using static maps with xastir but am interested if xastir can use zoomable google maps (or similar). I read something on the xastir archive that pointed in a direction but could not find any followup. Could someone please direct me to where I could download such maps. Thanks. Sounds like you're asking about vector maps. Yes, Xastir can do quite a few types of map formats. The main problem we've had is that various sources of maps keep drying up. Our project keeps outlasting the maps sources. See this URL: http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:MAPS Or see the README.MAPS that should have come with your Xastir, either in xastir/README.MAPS or /usr/local/share/doc/xastir/README.MAPS -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] FW: xfontsel
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Tom Russo wrote: On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 07:31:13AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <curt.w...@gmail.com> flavor, containing: On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: *) You may need to set "LANG=C" in the shell you start Xastir from. Unfortunately some of the functions in the standard C library are affected by this variable. This changes how Xastir saves/restores values to/from files. If you start Xastir from an xterm this way: LANG=C xastir & It should fix that issue. Or you can set LC_NUMERIC as described here: This guidance is obsolete, as of about 2010. That's when you added code to xa_config.c that forces LC_NUMERIC=C and LANG=C automatically in commit 32e57f0. Thanks. I can't remember 7 years ago. ;-) -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS: Where it's at! http://www.xastir.org Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Maps
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Jason KG4WSV wrote: Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not visible. It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at /usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps . One of the FAQ questions may give you additional hints too: http://xastir.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_don.27t_the_maps_I_installed_show_up_in_the_Map_Chooser.3F -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Usage Pages: http://we7u.wetnet.net/usage.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] FW: xfontsel
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: Sorry, I forgot to add that the terminal window in which I started xastir displays a large number of the following convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too low):4263101696 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:Y out-of-range (too low):4258554496 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too high):161465600 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:Y out-of-range (too high):101212800 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too low):4263101696 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:Y out-of-range (too low):4258554496 convert_from_xastir_coordinates:X out-of-range (too high):161465600 I doublechecked the coordinates for my station and they are correct. Stations are still coming in but the map is not displayed Am I leaving something out? Could be a couple of things: *) You may be too far zoomed out. Xastir spits out a few of these when you're out at world-view. *) You may need to set "LANG=C" in the shell you start Xastir from. Unfortunately some of the functions in the standard C library are affected by this variable. This changes how Xastir saves/restores values to/from files. If you start Xastir from an xterm this way: LANG=C xastir & It should fix that issue. Or you can set LC_NUMERIC as described here: http://xastir.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_can.27t_I_set_my_position_in_Xastir_correctly.3F -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "... you can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We are going to have to make some choices as a society." - Barack Obama "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Maps
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: Thanks for this. Actually I have already made those changes to /usr/local/share and the two maps DO appear in the Map Chooser but when I select either of them all I get is a grey background screen. All the stations are there, just not the map. Other than worldhi.map, I have two other maps in Map Chooser, geogratis.gc.ca and nationalmap.gov, but neither of them give me any map. Make sure Auto Maps is turned off. You may be loading multiple map sets and the last one loaded wins. For raster maps you typically want to only load one. You can then load vector maps on top of it. For vector maps you can load multiples because they don't cover each other up. It could be something else entirely that's causing your problem, but check Auto Maps first. Map -> Enable Auto Maps -> OFF Make sure when you're learning Xastir you only check one map at a time in Map Chooser. Once you get the hang of it you can make map stackups that are more complicated. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] FW: xfontsel
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, Jason KG4WSV wrote: The xastir from the distribution puts stuff in a non-standard place. Your xastir config inherited those non-standard directory entries. now that you have a standard built-from-source xasatir the support files are in the standard place, but your config files (in your home directory, specifically ~/.xastir) still point to the non-standard place. you can use your favorite test editor on ~/.xastir/config/xastir.cnf to search and replace /usr/share/xastir with (I think!) /usr/local/share/xastir and things will probably start working. -or- If you're just getting started and haven't done a lot of Xastir config'ing yet... Delete your ~/.xastir directory, then re-start Xastir. It will rebuild that directory with the correct paths for your new install. You could also rename .xastir to .xastir-save or similar and restart Xastir, then copy bits and pieces from your .xastir-save/* files into your .xastir/* directory as needed. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] FW: xfontsel
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote: x_spider: Can't bind local address Could some processes still be running from a previous run of Xastir? Error: BindingCould some processes still be running from a previous run of Xastir? UDP_Server process died. x_spider: Couldn't set read-end of pipe_udp_server_to_xastir non-blocking Could some processes still be running from a previous run of Xastir? If that wasn't from a previous run, perhaps more than one instance of Xastir is trying to start up? festival_client: connect to server failed festival_client: connect to server failed SayText: Couldn't open socket to Festival SayText: Couldn't open socket to Festival Those are normal if Festival daemon isn't running. XReadBitmapFile() failed: Bitmap not found? /usr/share/xastir/symbols/2x2.xbm XReadBitmapFile() failed: Bitmap not found? /usr/share/xastir/symbols/2x2.xbm I seem to recall that those messages have to do with trying to run Xastir from the src directory and not doing the "make install" first and running Xastir from /usr/local/bin/xastir It seems that the fatal error has to do with the mapping. The gui xastir map does not open and the terminal window just sits there. May again be caused from running Xastir from the src directory. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS: Where it's at! http://www.xastir.org Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir corrupts lxpanel
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017, Bill Dornbush wrote: I just installed Xastir V2.0.9 on a Raspberry Pi running Raspbian Stretch. I installed from sources using K5DAT script. When I run Xastir, after a while, the lxpanel start menu disappears from the screen. I can restart it using "lxpanel -p LXDE-pi" but after a while, it again goes away. Since I started it from the command line, I now got a set of messages. The last message before it disappears is *** Error in 'lxpanel': corrupted double-linked list: 0x009443a8 *** Since this only happens when I run Xastir, I assume this is caused by a bug in Xastir. I am hoping that someone can address and fix this. Check out the thread: "Re: [Xastir] RasPi upgrade continued ..." In the Xastir list archives. Aug 29th through Aug 31st. Looks like there was some discusson but no resolution. Did people switch to a different window manager to solve the problem? -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright Coordinate Converter (Android): http://www.sarguydigital.com ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] International Holiday Today
Start up Xastir today in this manner: xastir -l PirateEnglish & To participate ever so slightly in Talk Like a Pirate Day. "xastir -?" or "xastir -h" will print out the possible command line options. Looks like their web server has reached its limits today: http://talklikeapirate.com/wordpress/ So here's another page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day Oh yea, the language selection is "sticky". To get back to English, exit Xastir, then: xastir -l English & Obviously change the English option to whichever language suits you best (that we provide). Enjoy! -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Macports: last libraries update broke-up Xastir
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, F1MHV wrote: Forgot to mention this error during installation process: bash bootstrap.sh 7) Removing autom4te.cache directory... 6) Running aclocal... 5) Running autoheader... 4) Running autoconf... 3) Running automake... configure.ac:54: installing './compile' configure.ac:50: installing './config.guess' configure.ac:50: installing './config.sub' configure.ac:30: installing './install-sh' configure.ac:30: installing './missing' callpass/Makefile.am: installing './depcomp' Those message are normal if this is the first time you're running bootstrap.sh in this directory. 2) Checking for 'mkinstalldirs'... Not Found Attempting to copy it from system directories' ***ERROR: Couldn't copy the file*** Look at bootstrap.sh, the lines it failed on were: (cp /usr/local/share/automake*/mkinstalldirs . 2>/dev/null) (cp /usr/share/automake*/mkinstalldirs . 2>/dev/null) Yours may not exist on the Mac or may be in yet another directory. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] on Android
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Fred Hillhouse wrote: ShareGPS runs on an Android and may work. I have used it to share over a wireless network (IP:port) to a tablet. "Share NMEA GPS sentences or act as a GPSD compatible server via the following methods: * Bluetooth * TCP/IP (wifi/mobile data) * USB" "Add GPSD compatible server with Share GPS command (see help)" That may be the ticket. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] on Android
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Kurt wrote: I had trouble pulling up an onscreen keyboard and have one of those tiny B/T keyboards for field use and just used a B/T mouse.Yes, it basically won't logout so I minimize it with the "square" button on the lower right of the Android tool bar and then killed it that way. Once the X-server comes up I can't always get to that Android tool bar to those three icons. That's why the power-down/power-up trick for the N7, then I log into Android and the X11 server is still there, but now has the three icons for a few seconds. I click on the middle one, then drag down the notifications bar and I can close the X-server from there. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Usage Pages: http://we7u.wetnet.net/usage.html ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] on Android
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Fred Hillhouse wrote: ShareGPS runs on an Android and may work. I have used it to share over a wireless network (IP:port) to a tablet. If there's a gpsd type of instance that runs on Android, we speak gpsd from Xastir. I'll continue playing with it to see how usable I can make it. Just for demo purposes it's useful to me now. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] on Android
On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Kurt wrote: My thread so I'm thread jacking it! :-) I got Xastir running via an IS link on a Nexus 7 2012 3G and a 2013 LTE. I have it running on the latter one now. They key for me was deleting that remaining root directory after an uninstall, and starting over. http://xastir.org/index.php/Installation_Notes#Android I'd appreciate help in fleshing out the screen resolutions that work best (I know 1900x1200 doesn't, it makes everything too small), how to operate with just a touch-screen, how best to start up and close GNUroot/XSLT/Xastir, etc. I'll add to the Wiki as better ideas come through the list. I don't have a bluetooth keyboard to play with, but have a BT mouse if needed. I'd rather not need it. I couldn't close the X-server when done playing last night, so just shut down the tablet instead. Not the best solution, but it solved the problem. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Babysitting your tracker: http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=ControlOperator ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Anyone get Xastir to.......
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Kurt wrote: Run on GNURoot Debian and Xserver XSDL? GNURoot Debian - Android Apps on Google PlayXServer XSDL - Android Apps on Google Play on top of Android? This sort of reminds me of Xbox on Linux to run WinDoze. These two programs are kind of Wonky but I have them running on a Nexus 7 2013 LTE.Trouble is I need to increase the size of the lower taskbar and get the Synaptic packagemanager to work. I think I can get my scripts in and maps for Xastir. I have some control issues like keyboard and mouse to sort out too. Cripes, just got itgoing last night. I'm not sure if I can get my Bluetooth devices to be recognized on the Debian versionthat runs on top of Lollipop 6.0.1 so Xastir could use the NMEA datastreams (or any datastream for that matter) So, I thought I'd take a shot and if anyone has any pointers they can direct meto I be much obliged. If the program is so rough that Xastir can't work on it to any effect I'd beable to not waste my time on it. Any further progress? I tried a bit during lunch-time. The default DNS servers in GNUroot don't work for me here so I added different ones to /etc/resolv.conf but still can't get "apt-get update" to work. Have tried both GNUroot Debian and GNUroot, the latter with the Wheezy image. I have a N7(2013) LTE with a Google Fi SIM card so should be able to duplicate what you've done so far. I'll be at a ham conference tomorrow and it would be cool to show off to a few people there if I could get it running by tonight. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] non licensed callsign in my area
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Kurt wrote: I remember some 10 years ago when some guy in the area was running around in the Peoria area with a fictitious call off and on over a period of time. Guys posted they were going to track him down and one weekend, the guy was at it again and they went after him. I spent an enjoyable 45 minutes watching on Xastir and the perp eventually stopped at a resturantor gas station where the trackers confronted him. (That takes cojones now and it did then too.) Guy sheepishly said he bought the tracker "second hand" and didn't know it was"illegal". Was advised to get a Tech license. The spurious emissions ceased thereafter. Kurt KC9LDH I find it hilarious that anyone tries doing something illegal using a device that sends out their exact position. As funny as people that post pictures on the internet of illegal activity that shows their face and has their lat/long embedded in the photograph itself. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Anyone get Xastir to.......
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Kurt wrote: Run on GNURoot Debian and Xserver XSDL? GNURoot Debian - Android Apps on Google PlayXServer XSDL - Android Apps on Google Play on top of Android? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gnuroot.debian=en "GNURoot Debian provides a method for you to install and use Debian and its associated applications/packages alongside Android." "This does NOT require root." https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=x.org.server=en "X Window System / X11 server for Android, complete and fully functional. You may use it to stream applications from your Linux PC, or to launch Linux installed on your Android (installing Linux is done via separate app)." -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Anyone get Xastir to.......
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Kurt wrote: Run on GNURoot Debian and Xserver XSDL? GNURoot Debian - Android Apps on Google PlayXServer XSDL - Android Apps on Google Play on top of Android? This sort of reminds me of Xbox on Linux to run WinDoze. These two programs are kind of Wonky but I have them running on a Nexus 7 2013 LTE. Interesting. I haven't heard of any of those programs, but do have a Nexus 7 2013 LTE on a Google Fi data card. Not sure I have time to play with that stuff right now though. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." - unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." - WE7U. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] RasPi upgrade continued ...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Jason KG4WSV wrote: On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Curt, WE7U <curt.w...@gmail.com> wrote: Just a thought: I wonder if this could be Linux getting into memory starvation due to Xastir using up a lot of memory. Don't think so - for me it happens immediately when xastir starts. No interfaces configured, not so much as a gps. Ok. Sounds more like a buggy window manager then. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net U.S. Weather Alerts: Firenet.aprs2.net, port 14580, filter "t/n e/WE7U-WX" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] RasPi upgrade continued ...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, F1MHV wrote: To put 1 more stone in the garden, running Pi 3 and Raspian 8 Jessie, launching Xastir sometime the top menu bar disappear but desktop?s icons are remaining. Just a thought: I wonder if this could be Linux getting into memory starvation due to Xastir using up a lot of memory. Can happen if you run Xastir on an internet feed with no filters, storing all the station data takes memory! When Linux gets into memory starvation it starts killing processes randomly to free up memory. It could certainly kill whatever process does the top menu bar, but it could also kill anything else in memory. _If_ that's the problem, it can be minimized by putting a radius filter in for the server connection, something like "m/500", which will cut down the memory Xastir uses due to keeping track of far fewer stations. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Client Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_capabilities.html ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] RasPi upgrade continued ...
On Tue, 29 Aug 2017, David Ranch wrote: If you can't copy/paste that into an email, try to take a picture of that and send the image to the list. Except that images won't go through the list. Can post the image up somewhere else and send a link to the list though. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Device Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_device_capabilities.html ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Help with permissions
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Rob Noll wrote: This setup is located in my pickup and as such does not always have internet access. The Raspberry Pi does not have a real clock, and therefore if it is started without internet access, the date and time are incorrect. This results in an invalid timestamp on my packets, which results in them not showing on aprs.fi. It appears I can attempt to solve this in a number of different ways - set the SUID bit on the Xastir binary so Xastir can set the system time; set up GPS software that will masquerade as an NTP server allowing the Pi to set the clock from the GPS itself; run a batch script at startup to manually read the GPS and set the system time; configure Xastir to use the "fixed station" option so it does not send a time stamp; figure out which command Xastir uses to set the time and configure the Pi to allow any user to use that command. Speaking as one of the ones that massaged the code to make SUID safer in Xastir, I'd say you're pretty safe using that. Yes, it does allow Xastir to do things as root, but Xastir will drop to normal user privileges most of the time and then just go to root privileges for a short time to access ports or to do a few special commands. Also: If you aren't giving wifi access to your Rpi while you're driving around, there's no way for someone to hack in to mess with things, and they can't try to take advantage of SUID root programs that way. Now if you're driving around with an open Wifi allowing people to connect, you might want to shut that down. Xastir does a significant time jump using this technique. May cause havoc with other things, may not. Another option is to run gpsd on the box, connect Xastir to gpsd, and see about running ntp against gpsd. With this scheme you'll get slow transitions in time to keep things in sync. You may have to play with it a bit to make sure it can do faster transitions towards the current time if you're using it mobile: The transitioning might not be fast enough for you. Note: I haven't done this method so there may be some gotcha's in it, but it's worth considering. It allows sharing the GPS with as many devices as want to use it. At the moment, my solution is to set the SUID bit on the Xastir binary. This is allowing Xastir to set the system time and seems to solve my problem. However, I'm unclear as to whether this is an excessive security risk and/or a bad method of doing things. One Xastir page mentions that this method is necessary to use an AX.25 server, but another page mentions in capital letters not to run Xastir as root. I do not know if setting the SUID bit is the same as running it as root but it seems like it would be. It's not the same as running it as root. When you run Xastir as root it is always running as root, every file it creates ends up owned as root. It's a bad idea. Running SUID root allows Xastir to run as a normal user most of the time, and only revert to root for fractions of a second when truly necessary. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net "Debating an anti-gunner is like debating an arachnophobe about the importance of spiders in the ecosystem." -Stephen Wright ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Xastir mailing lists
I was getting hit with an email every 6 seconds last week, so locked down Postfix and Mailman to make it stop. Something about 3500 new messages in my inbox overnight didn't make me happy. The mail was getting injected into Xastir.org so that's where I did the lockdown. This morning I reduced some of the restrictions in Postfix and mail started coming through. Unfortunately I couldn't firewall off a few addresses as the mail was coming from many IP's and they kept changing. Xastir.org is using 4 different blackhole lists now, whereas it wasn't using any before. That should help in the future, at least once a spammer is known. Please let me know if things aren't working for you. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS Client Capabilities: http://we7u.wetnet.net/aprs_capabilities.html ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Device 0 errors with Xastir-Pi
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Steve Grantham wrote: I am getting Device 0 errors for no apparent reason. And I don't seem to be receiving data packets in Xastir, even though the yellow LED illuminates when the radio receives packet transmissions. This is a Pi3 with a TNC-Pi (the newer version TNC-Pi with mounting holes..) The TNC-Pi and transceiver are transmitting packets that do get digipeated though... Any ideas about this? Kill Xastir, then check whether other Xastir processes are still running. Sounds like you might have gotten two running at once. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net Windows ate my homework! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS radar overlay
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017, Chris Pitre wrote: It was an add in for uiview called nwsget. What it did was overlayed the nws radar image on the uiview map, providing that you were using mapping software from precision mapping. Which I was. The nws enable feature is turned on and I was viewing the alerts on the map when we had severe storms come thru on Friday. The nws url was changed and now that add on is useless. Roger. It's the use of the term "radar" that was confusing me. It sounds like you want the NWS alert areas lighting up. Yes, Xastir can do that. You need to be running the latest Xastir from Git (compiled yourself), and run the "get-NWSdata" script as root to snag the datafiles. That script should be in /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts directory once you've compiled/installed the latest version of Xastir. FWIW: I'm one of the two people generating the APRS packets that light up those alerts. I generate maybe half of the types, another guy generates the others. -- Curt, WE7U.http://we7u.wetnet.net APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
