Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote

2011-10-12 Thread Heiko Oberdiek
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:02:21PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote:

 Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks

Provided in the minimal package `capt-of'. The feature is also available
in the maximal package `caption'.

The danger in mixing floats and non-floats is that the numbering
might get out of order, because the floating algorithm does not know
about the non-floats.

Yours sincerely
  Heiko Oberdiek


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[XeTeX] IPA characters

2011-10-12 Thread Hendrik Maryns

Hi,

I found http://www.tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2004-December/001574.html, 
but it isn’t answered.


So here a new try: I want to use some IPA characters in my document.  I 
can paste them in directly, it aren’t that much.  But they show up blank.


I tried tipa, but didn’t get that to work either, and XeTeX is not 
mentioned in the manual.


minimal example:

\documentclass{scrartcl}

\usepackage{fontspec}

\begin{document}

\emph{oma} eerder als een ‘korte a’ /ɑ/ uitgesprok

alfabet bestaan daar reets tekens voor: ŋ, x, œ.
verschillen: in Haarlem zou dat eerder ŋ, χ en œy

\end{document}

Solutions are welcomed with eternal gratitude.

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Re: [XeTeX] IPA characters

2011-10-12 Thread Herbert Schulz

On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Hendrik Maryns wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I found http://www.tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2004-December/001574.html, but it 
 isn’t answered.
 
 So here a new try: I want to use some IPA characters in my document.  I can 
 paste them in directly, it aren’t that much.  But they show up blank.
 
 I tried tipa, but didn’t get that to work either, and XeTeX is not mentioned 
 in the manual.
 
 minimal example:
 
 \documentclass{scrartcl}
 
 \usepackage{fontspec}
 
 \begin{document}
 
 \emph{oma} eerder als een ‘korte a’ /ɑ/ uitgesprok
 
 alfabet bestaan daar reets tekens voor: ŋ, x, œ.
 verschillen: in Haarlem zou dat eerder ŋ, χ en œy
 
 \end{document}
 
 Solutions are welcomed with eternal gratitude.
 
 Cheers, H.
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Howdy,

Use a font that has those characters defined; the default font used with 
fontspec is Latin Modern which doesn't have those defined.

%%!TEX TS-program = xelatex
%%!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
\documentclass{scrartcl}

\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Linux Libertine} % added
\begin{document}

\emph{oma} eerder als een ‘korte a’ /ɑ/ uitgesprok

alfabet bestaan daar reets tekens voor: ŋ, x, œ.
verschillen: in Haarlem zou dat eerder ŋ, χ en œy

\end{document}

Good Luck,

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Re: [XeTeX] IPA characters

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Dyballa

Am 12.10.2011 um 16:28 schrieb Hendrik Maryns:

 I want to use some IPA characters in my document

What you also need is to use a font for printing these IPA characters that 
actually has them! Not all fonts have them. The fontspec default font, Latin 
Modern, does not. Linux Libertine O/Linux Biolinum O, the GNU Free Fonts, STIX 
General, XITS, Times New Roman have them.

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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote

2011-10-12 Thread Tobias Schoel

Am 11.10.2011 23:19, schrieb Zdenek Wagner:

2011/10/11 Tobias Schoelliesdieda...@googlemail.com:



Am 11.10.2011 21:20, schrieb Karljurgen Feuerherm:


Hello Ross,


On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at  3:15 PM, in message



(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't


legal


in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?

The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go


onto?


Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied


to that.

Ok--will try that.


Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you


know


that it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes


your


LaTeX source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing


that you


may need to do.


Well--ideally I don't really want it to float, I want it *right there*.
I'm still learning the finer points of these things, but I see your
point :)


If you don't want it to float, don't use a floating environment like
\begin{table}. Just leave it out. (And think twice about centering the
tabular.)


Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks
how to do it but imagine what happens if there is no space for the
whole table on the page. You will have to invent some additional text
above the itemization list in order to put a few items and the table
to the next page. Just one item plus the table would look very ugly.
Do you really want to do that? I would rather think a bit more about
the document structure.


I don't know, what functionality of captions you need. For only text 
below (or above) the tabular, there are simple methods such as 
multicolumn or a surrounding tabular or a minipage / parbox.


For more specific functionality you should really think about what the 
purpose and structure of this table in this document are. Maybe, letting 
it flow is better suited.


Generally speaking: before forcing LaTeX to do something, it doesn't 
naturally support, think about adapting to LaTeX's way.






ciao

Toscho



Thanks!

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[XeTeX] Always bold math

2011-10-12 Thread Tobias Schoel

Hi,

is there a convenient way to tell XeLaTeX to print all math in bold. May 
be a fontspec or unicode-math option or command?


Or a LaTeX-command? \boldmath doesn't work.

Thanks

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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote

2011-10-12 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/12 Tobias Schoel liesdieda...@googlemail.com:
 Am 11.10.2011 23:19, schrieb Zdenek Wagner:

 2011/10/11 Tobias Schoelliesdieda...@googlemail.com:


 Am 11.10.2011 21:20, schrieb Karljurgen Feuerherm:

 Hello Ross,

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at  3:15 PM, in message

 (2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't

 legal

 in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?

 The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go

 onto?

 Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied

 to that.

 Ok--will try that.

 Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you

 know

 that it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes

 your

 LaTeX source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing

 that you

 may need to do.

 Well--ideally I don't really want it to float, I want it *right there*.
 I'm still learning the finer points of these things, but I see your
 point :)

 If you don't want it to float, don't use a floating environment like
 \begin{table}. Just leave it out. (And think twice about centering the
 tabular.)

 Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks
 how to do it but imagine what happens if there is no space for the
 whole table on the page. You will have to invent some additional text
 above the itemization list in order to put a few items and the table
 to the next page. Just one item plus the table would look very ugly.
 Do you really want to do that? I would rather think a bit more about
 the document structure.

 I don't know, what functionality of captions you need. For only text below
 (or above) the tabular, there are simple methods such as multicolumn or a
 surrounding tabular or a minipage / parbox.

 For more specific functionality you should really think about what the
 purpose and structure of this table in this document are. Maybe, letting it
 flow is better suited.

The purpose of \caption is not only to typeset the caption but also
display the number, add the caption to the list of tables (figures)
and allow for cross references. It is defined in the floating
environments only. If you want to have this functionality outside
floating environments, you must cheat LaTeX. Vafa wrote the solution.

 Generally speaking: before forcing LaTeX to do something, it doesn't
 naturally support, think about adapting to LaTeX's way.



 ciao

 Toscho


 Thanks!

 K


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Re: [XeTeX] Always bold math

2011-10-12 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/12 Tobias Schoel liesdieda...@googlemail.com:
 Hi,

 is there a convenient way to tell XeLaTeX to print all math in bold. May be
 a fontspec or unicode-math option or command?

 Or a LaTeX-command? \boldmath doesn't work.

Do you have \boldmath outside math? This works for me, compare the
output of both equations:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\begin{document}
$$\pi r^2 / 4$$

\boldmath
$$\pi r^2 / 4$$
\end{document}


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Re: [XeTeX] IPA characters

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Dyballa

Am 12.10.2011 um 17:40 schrieb Tobias Schoel:

 the character seems not to be included in Latin Modern (standard with 
 fontspec).

Because it's not IPA (LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA, U+0251).

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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote

2011-10-12 Thread Karljurgen Feuerherm
Thank-you to all for the various options, which I plan to pursue, but
have not yet been able to do. Much appreciated.

Zdenek points to the crux of the matter: since I want the label to
appear in a list of tables, it makes sense to use a table, and make a
few adjustments.

In general, algorithms, being finite, will never do everything the way
one would like them all the time--some times it requires intervention.
The real question is when to intervene and how, not whether to do so.
After all, every extension package at some level offers some
functionality that original (Xe(La(TeX))) wasn't set up for, and so is
doing things other than what was 'originally' natural!

BTW I found the missing character problem. Apparently TeXShop was
picking it up from elsewhere, and that my font was an old version. Once
I put the correct one in place, the problem vanished.

K

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at  5:32 PM, in message
CAC1phyaB3GZs-LO0Urie35Ocw0L4FD3dsRqvSoF8g=tkffb...@mail.gmail.com,
Zdenek
Wagner zdenek.wag...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know, what functionality of captions you need. For only text
below
 (or above) the tabular, there are simple methods such as multicolumn
or a
 surrounding tabular or a minipage / parbox.

 For more specific functionality you should really think about what
the
 purpose and structure of this table in this document are. Maybe,
letting it
 flow is better suited.

 The purpose of \caption is not only to typeset the caption but also
 display the number, add the caption to the list of tables (figures)
 and allow for cross references. It is defined in the floating
 environments only. If you want to have this functionality outside
 floating environments, you must cheat LaTeX. Vafa wrote the
solution.

 Generally speaking: before forcing LaTeX to do something, it
doesn't
 naturally support, think about adapting to LaTeX's way.



 ciao

 Toscho


 Thanks!

 K


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