CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-09-03 Thread David Dawes
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/09/03 17:21:17

Log message:
   419. Add a missing xf86UnblockSIGIO() call to xf86InstallSIGIOHandler()
(#5839, NetBSD PR xsrc/22668, Yorick Hardy).

Modified files:
  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/:
sigio.c 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.16  +2 -1  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/sigio.c

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Modify the data structures for each client record [PLS HELP]

2003-09-03 Thread Kannes Hor
hi, all. I need to add the client's process ID to the record, so that i can 
use this in my scheduler part Can anyone tell me which file i need to 
modify? Thanks

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Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Egbert Eich wrote:
Bryan W. Headley writes:
  Egbert Eich wrote:
  
   
   As you said a HID device is more or less unidirectional. Therefore
   you won't be able to detect from the device interface that something
   is wrong. The HID interface itself would have to provide QoS.
   Anyway QoS would not be part of XI but would be implemented in the
   HW messaging extension. 
   
  
  Under Linux it is. Under BSD and Solaris (I think), you have read/write 
  to USB devices.
  
  But if you do a read() from the device and the syscall errors out, 
  that's an issue the X Driver can report. If the X driver expects 
  relative coordinates but for some reason is receiving absolute 
  coordinates, that's reason to issue a report.

Are you sure? 
We'd have to check why the read would error out. It would do so
if the device was closed because it was removed. That's a normal 
event when a device is hot pluggable. If XI supports removing of
devices it would just notify the XClient of the removal.
The coordinate issue is a device - driver compatibility problem.
Do we want to report this to the client, or is it sufficient to
tell the user about the problem in the log file.
It *could* be a hotplug issue. But assume it's not: is it worth issuing 
a message somewhere? You say yes, because you'd put it in a log file 
somewhere. I agree, but think that giving the message the opportunity to 
pop up on a driver message monitoring app to be more enterprise friendly.

My problem with log files is that they're generally put into a directory 
only the administrator can read. You've just made the product more 
expensive to support/maintain...

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Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Egbert Eich wrote:
Bryan W. Headley writes:
I do understand the 'the battery in the cordless mouse is getting low'
message. This would better live in the hardware messaging, ie. the
successor of todays xf86misc extension.
Ah! You're concerned about which layer supports the messaging. I'm not 
as concerned with that, as I am that the facility exists. Although, the 
more we put similar functionalities into different layers, the harder it 
is for a developer to be aware of all of them. For example, a 
communication layer between the client and the driver should not be in 
the both the input layer and the misc layer, it should be in a single 
layer (somewhere) and be capable of communicating with all drivers.

  Don't forget, the same select() loop also receives X events and you 
  don't want the server to appear sluggish while dealing with non-core 
  events. So yeah, spawning a thread to deal with them is not a bad idea.
  

How much traffic do you expect? 

I don't expect much at all. But I don't want to detract from X's core 
message dispatch functionality...

   
   Right. That's what we need a registry for.
  
  I think your registry would know how to identify hardware and determine 
  the correct drivers to load.
  
  But are you also suggesting that it knows how to ask the NVidia driver 
  for its video resolution (e.g., it prefers a message in string format 
  like, reso?, whereas the CT driver might use a different message?)

That's why we need a registry. And I don't like string messages
either. This is the current ad hoc implementiaton. 
You are at the point in time where a cohesive attribute - token 
dictionary could be defined and the drivers standardized to understand 
them in messages. In a world of anarchy, a termcap-like dictionary is 
appropriate.

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Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Egbert Eich wrote:

  I dropped Jim Gettys a note, asking him about his involvement with 
  XInput. If he's not working on it anymore, maybe he can pass some of his 
  ideas and we can incorporate that. And if he is, great. The more the 
  merrier.

Right.
No reply from Jim yet. Either he's not interested or I got thrown into 
his junk email filter. Much like your email did -- don't know why. Need 
a Bayessian debugger to watch it's decision tree... :-)

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DRI and Silicon Motion

2003-09-03 Thread Cheshire Cat Fish
I am investigating supporting DRI and OpenGL for the Silicon Motion driver.
I'm new to both of those, so some of these may be newbie sounding questions.
1) I have the  OpenGL code from the Windows 2000 Silicon Motion driver.  Can 
this code be mostly used as is?  Or will the Linux code be entirely 
different?

2) In the DRI Users Guide, section 3.2-Graphics Hardware, Silicon Motion is 
not listed as currently being supported.  Is this still the case? Is anyone 
working on this?  Or am I starting from scratch?

3) How big of a task am I looking at here? Since I alrady have the Win2k OGL 
code to base my work on, it seems to me it shouldn't be too hard to drop 
that code in and hook it up to DRI.  A few weeks maybe?  Or am I missing 
something fundamental?

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Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-03 Thread Egbert Eich
Bryan W. Headley writes:
  Egbert Eich wrote:
   Bryan W. Headley writes:
 Egbert Eich wrote:
 
  
  As you said a HID device is more or less unidirectional. Therefore
  you won't be able to detect from the device interface that something
  is wrong. The HID interface itself would have to provide QoS.
  Anyway QoS would not be part of XI but would be implemented in the
  HW messaging extension. 
  
 
 Under Linux it is. Under BSD and Solaris (I think), you have read/write 
 to USB devices.
 
 But if you do a read() from the device and the syscall errors out, 
 that's an issue the X Driver can report. If the X driver expects 
 relative coordinates but for some reason is receiving absolute 
 coordinates, that's reason to issue a report.
   
   Are you sure? 
   We'd have to check why the read would error out. It would do so
   if the device was closed because it was removed. That's a normal 
   event when a device is hot pluggable. If XI supports removing of
   devices it would just notify the XClient of the removal.
   The coordinate issue is a device - driver compatibility problem.
   Do we want to report this to the client, or is it sufficient to
   tell the user about the problem in the log file.
  
  It *could* be a hotplug issue. But assume it's not: is it worth issuing 
  a message somewhere? You say yes, because you'd put it in a log file 
  somewhere. I agree, but think that giving the message the opportunity to 
  pop up on a driver message monitoring app to be more enterprise friendly.
  

One could argue that any serious condition that is reported in the log
should also get reported by to interested clients. So far XFree86
doesn't know many such events. Most error conditons happen during 
startup where you have no option but to log them.

  My problem with log files is that they're generally put into a directory 
  only the administrator can read. You've just made the product more 
  expensive to support/maintain...
  

A lot of error conditions can only be fixed by the administrator.
Can you come up with a really good real life example?
I suppose 'Battery Low' would be one.

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Re: DRI and Silicon Motion

2003-09-03 Thread Ian Romanick
Cheshire Cat Fish wrote:

I am investigating supporting DRI and OpenGL for the Silicon Motion driver.
I'm new to both of those, so some of these may be newbie sounding 
questions.

1) I have the  OpenGL code from the Windows 2000 Silicon Motion driver.  
Can this code be mostly used as is?  Or will the Linux code be 
entirely different?
Depending on licensing issues attached to the code you have and how you 
want to distribute it, you may be able to use a lot or a little.  All of 
the existing open-source drivers are based on Mesa, and the whole build 
process for 3D drivers in XFree86 is built on that.  I suspect, but am 
in no position to say for sure, that any contributed drivers would 
have to conform to that.  Porting the existing driver to use Mesa would 
probably be a lot of work, but it shouldn't be insurmountable.

If you want to basically use your existing code as-is, you can port it 
to just interface with the XFree86 libGL.so.  That would be a much 
smaller task, but it would leave you on your own (pretty much) to 
support and distribute the driver.  I don't think it would get included 
in an XFree86 release.  There's also the issue of the license that may 
be attached to the existing code, but as I'm neither a lawyer or an 
official XFree86 maintainer I'm in no position to comment.

2) In the DRI Users Guide, section 3.2-Graphics Hardware, Silicon Motion 
is not listed as currently being supported.  Is this still the case? Is 
anyone working on this?  Or am I starting from scratch?
This hardware is not supported and I know of nobody that is working on it.

3) How big of a task am I looking at here? Since I alrady have the Win2k 
OGL code to base my work on, it seems to me it shouldn't be too hard to 
drop that code in and hook it up to DRI.  A few weeks maybe?  Or am I 
missing something fundamental?
There are way too many variables to be able to accurately answer that 
question (see my answer to your first question). :)

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Arch specific optimizations?

2003-09-03 Thread emmanuel ALLAUD
  Hi all,
in the thread about RENDER extension, it has beem
mentionned that XFree was performing much slower (ie 2
or 3 times slower) than imlib2 (sorry I don't really
remember in which tasks). The reason seemed to boil
down to the fact that imlib2 has arch specific asm
instructions (I think mostly for x586 via MMX or SSE
or whatever) for certain crucial functions.
My question is why not do that also in XFree
(borrowing/adapting codes from images manipulation
libs)?
By choosing carefully the functions to optimize (that
would mean only a few small function so that the
maintainance is as easy as possible) we should avoid
too much mess, keeping portability by using the old
functions for arches with no specific optimizations.
Does that sound reasonnable?
Bye
Manu

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Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Joe Krahn wrote:
I agree that device messages should all be in one place. There are
messages to and from the user, as well as to and from the device.
Hope I wasn't dancing on anyone's toes

So, if all of this will be an XINPUT expansion, this discussion
would be better off in the little-used XINPUT list.
There is such a list? Where?

As for control type names, Atoms make a lot of sense, because they
readily expandable, unlike integer enumerators as used in HID.
It also seems to me that the current Atom managing code would
be a reasonable place to create some sort of registry.
Atoms, enumerations, outright strings... I'm not too concerned either 
way, I only advise taking the opportunity to standardize the vocabulary 
behind the control name fields, lest we get caught in a mire. We're sort 
of there already, insofar as clients trying to infer too much meaning 
from existing XINPUT callback structs will get punished.

Just because I like to incite riots, if it turns out we send XML 
messages back and forth, I won't be too hot  bothered about it. (Now, 
duck!)

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Mosue double click interval

2003-09-03 Thread Ping Cheng
Title: Message



Is there a call to 
get/set the mouse double click interval?

Ping


Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Egbert Eich wrote:

A lot of error conditions can only be fixed by the administrator.
Can you come up with a really good real life example?
I suppose 'Battery Low' would be one.
That's the easiest one for everyone to grasp. Let's see: problems with 
the input device (it didn't accept programming/switch mode commands we 
asked for). I'm trying to think what would be a less-than-disasterous 
but still inconvenient situation for a video card to report...

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Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Egbert Eich wrote:
Bryan W. Headley writes:
  Egbert Eich wrote:
   Bryan W. Headley writes:
   I do understand the 'the battery in the cordless mouse is getting low'
   message. This would better live in the hardware messaging, ie. the
   successor of todays xf86misc extension.
  
  Ah! You're concerned about which layer supports the messaging. I'm not 
  as concerned with that, as I am that the facility exists. Although, the 
  more we put similar functionalities into different layers, the harder it 
  is for a developer to be aware of all of them. For example, a 
  communication layer between the client and the driver should not be in 
  the both the input layer and the misc layer, it should be in a single 
  layer (somewhere) and be capable of communicating with all drivers.

The problem is that different layers have different views of things.
As we already found out the XI may view every pen of a tablet as a
different device while the driver considers the tablet as one device
as it communicates with it. I don't want to put things into a specific
layer which don't belong into its level of abstraction.
True, and that's a whole other set of problems. At least, in your 
example, everything is in the XI layer, if not in the individual driver. 
I'm more worried about an XI layer that talks to its drivers, but 
there's also a layer in Misc that does the same thing, but perhaps 
supercedes the XI layer, but all of that has been replaced by something 
in a third layer.

How this will turn out in the end is probably not so much a matter of
implementation but of discipline and coordination.
Yes! But also documentation, both in terms of self-documenting code and 
the manuals in the ./doc directory. (Because, whoever looks at docs? :-)

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Re: [I18n] Compose files.

2003-09-03 Thread Ivan Pascal
   Hi,

 So currently, the Xlib keyboard customization (including compose) all exists 
 on the client side, but the XKB customization (not including compose) exists 
 more on the server side. You want to allow end-users (sitting in front of the 
 Xserver) to be able to configure the compose on the client side. You end up 
 with a similar problem as the Xkb stuff described above, where the client 
 side only has a filename for it's key to the database, but limited ability to 
 send real data.

No, those problems are a bit different.
First of a client side *has* ability to load a file (as a compiled keymap)
into a server.
But most important thing is that when one client has chosen right name(s)
and sent them to a server and server has found and loaded those files then
all clients just get the map from the server independently on where they are
running.  In this case the server distributes a complete map that is enough
for an applications work.

But if the server distributes a *name* of Compose file only (and each client
has to find and read this file from its local directory tree) there is not
guaranty that each client machine has such file.

 However, Locale Independance sounds like it would be fairly easy to implement 
 and have the added benefit of removing one of the keyboard configuration 
 methods.

What do you mean with one of the keyboard configuration methods?

 I imagine that would reduce the frustration of users. However, I 
 don't totally understand your explaination here:
 
  If the result of a compose rule ia a keysym only Xlibhas to convert it to a
  string according to the current locale in the way used for usual key
  press/release events.  It this case one compose files can be used for
  different locales and depends on a keybord map only.
 
 It seems like you're saying that instead of using a locale, the compose config 
 would be chosen as a result of the keymap chosen. If that's true, that sounds 
 like a great solution to the Locale problem.

I didn't mean the compose file will be chosen automaticaly with the keymap
choice.  I just meant the compose file choice *depends* on keyboard layout
choice.  And a user will have the same compose rules for different locales
(it's quite real situation if one uses C locale for some applications and
en_US.UTF-8 for others).

 Unless per-user customization is really, really pressing, I wouldn't add it 
 outside of the ideal Xkb solution.
 
 What do you think?

I think I will anyway. :-)

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Re: [I18n] Compose files.

2003-09-03 Thread Ivan Pascal
  Hi,

Vasilis Vasaitis wrote:
  The second substitution would allow user to add currently used files into own
  custom Compose file without care where that file is actually placed.
 
   No objections here. Just don't forget to add at least another
 substitution, %%, which produces a literal %, for completeness' sake.

Already done.  I didn't mention it as an obvious thing. :-)

  In finally a most doubtfull part: how to specify needed Compose file.
  Now I made an environment variable XCOMPOSEFILE which value should be a name
  (with a path) of Compose file.  But I realize it is unhandly for users.
  Any ideas are welcome.
 
   Hm, how about simply checking for the presence of ~/.Xcompose and
 using it instead of the locale dependent file? In that case, this file
 would have to include the system wide ones instead of the other way
 round, so perhaps the substitutions you've proposed wouldn't be really
 needed.

I thought about it.  But I think it isn't much better than an environment
variable.  In one case you have to write a string into your profile
file (set the variable) and in another case you have to make a file in
your home directory and write some lines there.  And both cases are unhandly
for configuring utilities. :-(

Anyway I can implement both.  In this case I think the variable should have
bigger priority because if one wants to change compose rules for application
only (or apply different rules for different applications) it would be easer
to use the environment variable for such task.

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Re: [XFree86] OT: image manipulation

2003-09-03 Thread Frank Murphy
 I take a screenshot with xwd -root  bla.rgb
 How can I convert this rgb file to a png, jpeg ...
 Not using gimp but a cli tool ..

Not really an XFree86 question, but look at ImageMagick
(http://www.imagemagick.org)

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Re: [XFree86] xwd question

2003-09-03 Thread Matthieu Herrb
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  Hello,
  I take a screenshot with xwd -root  bla.rgb
  How can I convert this rgb file to a png, jpeg ...
  Not using gimp but a cli tool ..

Use 'convert' from Imagemagick 
http://www.simplesystems.org/ImageMagick/

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[XFree86] Graphics Problem(in RedHat-9)

2003-09-03 Thread Pronab Bhattacharyya
Respected sir,

I am studying  B.E(in IT) under Calcutta
University,Kolkata

In my PC had Red Hat-7.3. and then i have upgraded it
to RedHat-9.

Lastweek i was doing work in root envirnment and have
not shutdown my pc properly .Nexday when i have 
started my pc in Linux environment i did not get
graphical mode.

My pc is Pentium-iii with mercury motherboard and
monitor is Samtron-56V.

I have also used the following command

$startx
$ XFree86 -configure
$XFree86 -xf86config/root/XF86Config.new

but it gives some error like

[drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* space 65520 wanted 65528

[drm:i810_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup
XIO:fatal IO ERROR 104(connection reset by peer) on X
server :0.0
after  0 request (0 known processed) with 0 events
remaining.

I have atached the complete output with this mail.
I hope you will give proper solutions othewise i will
not use Linux in
graphical mode.

 

We are frequently facing this problem in our hostel

Using your LiFY cd can we do any solution ?

Thanking you

Yours faithfully

Pronab Bhattacharyya

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Re: [XFree86] dual heads/single card help please

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Eric J Bowser wrote:
Is ther a complete option list for radeon  mergedfb available
anywhere?  There doesn't seem to be a man page...
The radeon MergedFB mode is identical to the SiS one. Quite a lot of 
information about this mode can be found on 
www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml

From what I see in your config, it doesn't seem like mergedfb supports
different resolutions on each display.  I don't mind running the same
If you mean display mode - yes

sync and depth, but I need different resolutions on each display.  Also,
is it possible to layout the monitors using absolute statements?
(instead of RightOf, LeftOf, etc.)
Numerical? No. - Well, not yet.

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[XFree86] Power management issues when running two X servers

2003-09-03 Thread Sudheer Parameswaran
Hi,
I am running two X Servers (Version: 4.2.99.3-20021230.4, and Intel 845G 
graphics adapter)  on my linux box (Kernel: 2.4.18-14) in different 
screens. I am facing some problems related to power management.

My setup is like this: The first X Server is  running without any window 
manager and second one is running with fvwm. If I keep the first screen 
without doing any activity, the monitor will go to the power save mode 
(In BIOS video power save mode is DPMS)  and I will get a blank screen. 
The problem is that later if I touch on the key board/mouse, the screen 
is not coming back. Instead only the mouse cursor will appear. If I go 
to any other console and come back to this screen, then I will get back  
the entire screen.  If I am running only one XServer, this problem will 
never appear. Other than this, my X server is working well.

I tried by switching off the screen saver option also. But those were 
not helpful. Can anybody advice me  how to fix this?

Thanks in advance,

Sudheer



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[XFree86] The Uncertainty Principle Is Untenable

2003-09-03 Thread ada
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THE UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE IS UNTENABLE

By re-analysing Heisenberg's Gamma-Ray Microscope experiment and the ideal experiment 
from which the uncertainty principle is derived, it is actually found that the 
uncertainty principle can not be obtained from them. It is therefore found to be 
untenable. 

Key words: 
uncertainty principle; Heisenberg's Gamma-Ray Microscope Experiment; ideal experiment 

Ideal Experiment 1

 Heisenberg's Gamma-Ray Microscope Experiment


A free electron sits directly beneath the center of the microscope's lens (please see 
AIP page http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08b.htm or diagram below) . The 
circular lens forms a cone of angle 2A from the electron. The electron is then 
illuminated from the left by gamma rays--high energy light which has the shortest 
wavelength. These yield the highest resolution, for according to a principle of wave 
optics, the microscope can resolve (that is, see or distinguish) objects to a size 
of dx, which is related to and to the wavelength L of the gamma ray, by the 
expression: 

dx = L/(2sinA) (1) 

However, in quantum mechanics, where a light wave can act like a particle, a gamma ray 
striking an electron gives it a kick. At the moment the light is diffracted by the 
electron into the microscope lens, the electron is thrust to the right. To be observed 
by the microscope, the gamma ray must be scattered into any angle within the cone of 
angle 2A. In quantum mechanics, the gamma ray carries momentum as if it were a 
particle. The total momentum p is related to the wavelength by the formula, 

p = h / L, where h is Planck's constant. (2) 

In the extreme case of diffraction of the gamma ray to the right edge of the lens, the 
total momentum would be the sum of the electron's momentum P'x in the x direction and 
the gamma ray's momentum in the x direction: 

P' x + (h sinA) / L', where L' is the wavelength of the deflected gamma ray. 

In the other extreme, the observed gamma ray recoils backward, just hitting the left 
edge of the lens. In this case, the total momentum in the x direction is: 

P''x - (h sinA) / L''. 

The final x momentum in each case must equal the initial x momentum, since momentum is 
conserved. Therefore, the final x momenta are equal to each other: 

P'x + (h sinA) / L' = P''x - (h sinA) / L'' (3) 

If A is small, then the wavelengths are approximately the same, 

L' ~ L ~ L. So we have 

P''x - P'x = dPx ~ 2h sinA / L (4) 

Since dx = L/(2 sinA), we obtain a reciprocal relationship between the minimum 
uncertainty in the measured position, dx, of the electron along the x axis and the 
uncertainty in its momentum, dPx, in the x direction: 

dPx ~ h / dx or dPx dx ~ h. (5) 

For more than minimum uncertainty, the greater than sign may added. 

Except for the factor of 4pi and an equal sign, this is Heisenberg's uncertainty 
relation for the simultaneous measurement of the position and momentum of an object. 

Re-analysis

To be seen by the microscope, the gamma ray must be scattered into any angle within 
the cone of angle 2A. 

The microscope can resolve (that is, see or distinguish) objects to a size of dx, 
which is related to and to the wavelength L of the gamma ray, by the expression: 

dx = L/(2sinA) (1) 

This is the resolving limit of the microscope and it is the uncertain quantity of the 
object's position. 

The microscope can not see the object whose size is smaller than its resolving limit, 
dx. Therefore, to be seen by the microscope, the size of the electron must be larger 
than or equal to the resolving limit. 

But if the size of the electron is larger than or equal to the resolving limit dx, the 
electron will not be in the range dx. Therefore, dx can not be deemed to be the 
uncertain quantity of the electron's position which can be seen by the microscope, but 
deemed to be the uncertain quantity of the electron's position which can not be seen 
by the microscope. To repeat, dx is uncertainty in the electron's position which can 
not be seen by the microscope. 

To be seen by the microscope, the gamma ray must be scattered into any angle within 
the cone of angle 2A, so we can measure the momentum of the electron. 

dPx is the uncertainty in the electron's momentum which can be seen by microscope. 

What relates to dx is the electron where the size is smaller than the resolving limit. 
When the electron is in the range dx, it can not be seen by the microscope, so its 
position is uncertain. 

What relates to dPx is the electron where the size is larger than or equal to the 
resolving limit .The electron is not in the range dx, so it can be seen by the 
microscope and its position is certain. 

Therefore, the electron which relates to dx and dPx respectively is not the same. What 
we can see is the electron where the size is larger than or equal to the resolving 
limit dx and has a certain position, dx = 0. 

Quantum mechanics does not 

[XFree86] xserver not starting

2003-09-03 Thread linuxuser user
Sir,

i have problem with  X server, i am attaching the log
files, please help us to solve this problem
expecting a reply.

thanking you 
manu

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XFree86.0.log
Description: XFree86.0.log


XFree86.setup.log
Description: XFree86.setup.log

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-72) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 23 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-11smp i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com
 
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.18-14 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red 
Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Wed Sep 4 13:35:50 EDT 2002 
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(++) Log file: /dev/null, Time: Sat Aug 30 13:08:37 2003
(++) Using config file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

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This can be found in the log file /dev/null.
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IS(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI.
Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
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ages.
This can be found in the log file /dev/null.
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[XFree86] Re: Switching virtual Terminals under Linux

2003-09-03 Thread Achim Flammenkamp
 So I like to know how do a job (init or whatever priviliged script it needs)
 choose one specific vt?? for the physical console.
Have a look at 'man chvt'.

achim
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[XFree86] Re: Re: Thank you!

2003-09-03 Thread interclient
Thank you for e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is an auto generated message, please do 
not respond to this mail.

If your email is concerning a presales or installation question  regarding 
InterClient, please create a case at 
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If your email is concerning an issue of how to use InterClient, please contact 
developer support in your local region. For  information on US support offerings 
please see 
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If your email is concerning a potential bug you may have found in InterClient, please 
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[XFree86] Some_Problems_Using_Xfree4.3_Radeon9000m

2003-09-03 Thread BELLU ALBERTO


Hi, for me is impossible to use something different from 
Vesa drivers, I don't understand the problem, 
but is possible that XFree can't read configurations 
availables from the video card.

I specify the environment :

Asus 5830
Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz
Mobility Radeon 9000 (rv or rt250)  64 MB video ram
Mandrake 9.1 or 9.2 RC1 (ken)
(Kernel 2.4.22-1)
newsgroups are a bit caotic, 
I can't find the right solution.
Is a problem related to DRI drivers?
TIA


ForXfreeOrg_Radeon9000m.tar.gz
Description: application/gzip


Re: [OT] Viruses (was Re: [XFree86] unsubscribing.)

2003-09-03 Thread jayjwa+referer-news
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:54:26 +0100
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] Viruses (was Re: [XFree86] unsubscribing.)

 I have heard it argued that Man is a virus...

 -Oli


H Spreading under its own power, replication
I know some people that are infectious and I'd bet they carry a
malicious payload to boot

(Sorry, enough OT, I'll get back in line now *sigh*  Let's see- where
were we? Oh yeah, Xservers)


-jayjwa Reg. Linux user #207147 PGPKey: http://atr2.ath.cx/jayjwa.asc
Spambox: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --  4 Spammers: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just Plain Sad! http://atr2.ath.cx/bad-and-sad.html
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[XFree86] Your inquiry regarding a possible positions with Maxim Pharmaceuticals

2003-09-03 Thread MaximJobs
Thank you for your inquiry regarding employment opportunities at Maxim
Pharmaceuticals.  
We are carefully reviewing your qualifications for any current open
positions and we 
will contact you directly if there is an appropriate match.  

Once again, thank you for your interest in Maxim.  We wish you success in
your future career endeavors.

Warm regards,

Maxim Pharmaceuticals
Human Resources
8899 University Center Lane, Suite 400
San Diego, CA  92122


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[XFree86] NEW GENERATION HANDSFREE CARKIT'

2003-09-03 Thread fd
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 the other road users' life. General opinion agreed that driving with hand-held
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RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Miles Roper wrote:

 restest
 XResQueryExtension failed
 

   If X-Resource doesn't show up in the list of extensions that
xdpyinfo prints out, your server doesn't have support for the 
X Resource extension built in.  I believe XFree86 4.3 and newer build 
this by default (just make World without modifying anything).


Mark.

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[XFree86] server crash

2003-09-03 Thread Eric Henry
Hi,
  I just compiled 4.3.0 for my Alpha (RH Linux 6.1). When attempting to 
start the server (after first running XFree86 -configure), I got a 
server crash with signal 11. (Relevant files are attached.) Any hope 
that this has an easy interpretation?

Many thanks,
Eric Henry
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Section ServerLayout
Identifier XFree86 Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  dri
Load  dbe
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  speedo
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/mouse
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option HWcursor  # [bool]
#Option PciRetry  # [bool]
#Option SyncOnGreen   # [bool]
#Option NoAccel   # [bool]
#Option ShowCache # [bool]
#Option Overlay   # [str]
#Option MGASDRAM  # [bool]
#Option ShadowFB  # [bool]
#Option UseFBDev  # [bool]
#Option ColorKey  # i
#Option SetMclk   # freq
#Option OverclockMem  # [bool]
#Option VideoKey  # i
#Option Rotate# [str]
#Option TexturedVideo # [bool]
#Option Crtc2Half # [bool]
#Option Crtc2Ram  # i
#Option Int10 # [bool]
#Option AGPMode   # i
#Option AGPSize   # i
#Option DigitalScreen1# [bool]
#Option DigitalScreen2# [bool]
#Option TV# [bool]
#Option TVStandard# [str]
#Option CableType # [str]
#Option NoHal # [bool]
#Option SwappedHead   # [bool]
#Option DRI   # [bool]
#Option MergedFB  # [bool]
#Option Monitor2HSync # [str]
#Option Monitor2VRefresh  # [str]
#Option Monitor2Position  # [str]
#Option MetaModes # [str]
Identifier  Card0
Driver  mga
VendorName  Matrox Graphics, Inc.
BoardName   MGA 2064W [Millennium]
BusID   PCI:0:7:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection


XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.2.5-22 alpha [ELF] 
Build Date: 03 September 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Wed Sep  3 13:22:13 2003
(++) Using config file: /root/XF86Config.new
(==) ServerLayout XFree86 Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor 

[XFree86] Serious business - Make $500,000 in six months gtyrt

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas Wilson
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[XFree86] Sua mensagem não pôde ser entregue

2003-09-03 Thread iGMailer
ESTE EMAIL É AUTOMÁTICO.
POR FAVOR, NÃO RESPONDA, POIS ELA NÃO SERÁ LIDA.

Não foi possível entregar a sua mensagem.
O destinatário não recebeu a sua mensagem. Veja a seguir a descrição do
motivo.


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[XFree86] S3/3026 support

2003-09-03 Thread Greg



I am currently using version 4.2.0 and understand 
that the latest 4.3.0 supports cards with the S3/TI3025, but not the TI3026 
ramdac. Card is a diamond stealth 64 VRAM. What is the best way to proceed with 
this card? Has anyone located a driver or way to work with the 3026 
chip?


Re: [XFree86] new to linux, please help with X

2003-09-03 Thread James Cherry
I'm no X-pert, but aren't AGP devices always on bus 1:0:0?

I'd say you have more than one graphics device.. does your A7N8X have an integrated 
nic or
something? I'd look it up but I'm too lazy.

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 On Tue, 02 Sep 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Hi, I just installed redhat 9 (regular desktop mode) and I cant get X server to 
 work.  I am
running
 on a custom built computer that includes an ATI Radeon 9500 Pro AGP card, Asus A7N8X 
 Deluxe
 motherboard, a 80 gb hard drive (hdc), another 160 gb hard drive (hdd), sony 
 dru-510a dvd/cd +/-
r/rw
 (hda), and a lite-on cd-rw (hdb), and I am using an old NEC A700 monitor.
 
 I primarily use the first hard drive (hdc), I use its first partition for windows XP 
 Pro and I
used
 its last partition to install RH9 on.  I've added a picture (17.1 kb) of my 
 partitioning program
to
 give you an idea of what my partitions look like.
 
 When I took a look at /var/log/Xfree86.0.log, these are the following errors that I 
 received...
 
 (WW) RADEON:  no matching device section for instance (BUSID PCI:3:0:1) found
 (EE) RADEON(0):  no valid mode found for this DFP/LCD
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
 
 Fatal Server Error:
 no screens found
 
 I would have added what my /etc/X11/XF86Config file says, but I dont know how to 
 copy the file
onto
 my floppy disk drive so that I can look at it through windows.  I HAVE emacs'ed it 
 successfully
 though.
 
 I have tried everything that I found online including
 XFree86 -configure
 XFree86 -config
 redhat-config-xfree86
 redhat-config-xfree86 reconfig
 
 none of those have worked for me, what now??
 
 If anybody has any ideas of what I should do next, please explain the process 
 thoroughly because
I
 dont know anything at all about linux.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 
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[XFree86] Fatal server error .............

2003-09-03 Thread Syed Moiz Ali
I am getting an error 

Fatal server error:
no screens found

When I try to run Mandarake Linux 9.0 in graphical
mode
Please help me in getting to know the solution for 
this problem. I went to xfree86.org website but was
not able to identify which file to download...
There is a lot of confusion as I am new to Linux.

Thanking you in advance
Moiz

Log file :
XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 3 September 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your
card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version
before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-23mdkenterprise
i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==)
default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II)
informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not
implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Wed Sep
 3 18:46:20 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout layout1
(**) |--Screen screen1 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor monitor1
(**) |   |--Device device1
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard1
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) XKB: model: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(WW) Option XkbOptions requires an string value
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device Mouse1
(**) FontPath set to unix/:-1
(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(**) Option AllowMouseOpenFail
Using vt 7
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or
directory)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x,
mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2560 card 8086,2560 rev
01 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,2562 card 8086,4c59 rev
01 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,24c2 card 8086,4c59 rev
01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,24c4 card 8086,4c59 rev
01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,24c7 card 8086,4c59 rev
01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,24cd card 8086,4c59 rev
01 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card , rev
81 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24c0 card , rev
01 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24cb card 8086,4c59 rev
01 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,24c3 card 8086,4c59 rev
01 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,24c5 card 8086,0302 rev
01 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1057,5608 card 1057, rev
00 class 07,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL:
0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL:
0x06 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1  0xd000 - 0xd0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[1] -1  0xd400 - 0xd4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[2] -1  0xd800 - 0xd8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[3] -1  0xdc00 - 0xdcff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0xff80 - 0xff8f (0x10) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0xe6a0 - 0xe6af (0x10) MX[B]
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL:
0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory 

[XFree86] XFree86 digest: {X Remotely? HOWTOs, docs, FAQs?}

2003-09-03 Thread jayjwa+referer-news
XFree86 Fans,

Here is the situation: I've a friend in another state that I'd like to let
use my Xserver/clients (I don't even know if this is the right term for
this, basically, just to allow him to run the X-apps I have on my server
at his machine from his place, in another state.) He is using some form of
Windows, most likely XP. He already has a general account here (this
machine), and is trustworthy; I wouldn't mind him using these apps so
security is not really an issue, at least in that respect.

I've heard this can be done and have read (some of, the ones I thought
may contain relative info) the docs that come with my Slackware-Linux
distro (i.e. /usr/doc/Linux-HOWTO's ). I think it involves using a 'host'
command and exporting the display? I've also heard this uses alot of
bandwidth, but would it still be practical (I've only got a regular
modem)? Or maybe this is just a bad idea all-around? Also, back when I
used Windows, I found an app. called XThin and another, XSecure Pro,
both made by Labtam Inc. that supposedly make connecting a Windows
machine to a Linux/UNIX machine an easy job. I've used it to FTP  telnet.
It comes with it's own XServer (and also a NFS server, xclock, xkill,
mwm,etc,etc...), although I never used it to connect to a Linux
machine while I was running it back then. I still have this app., zip'ed
up and available for FTP to him if it should be of any use.

I guess what I'm asking is: 1.) how can I set this up (or where to look
for a good example of this- docs, faqs, howto's, or whatever) 2.) Can
this package (the XThin or XSecure ones referred to above) make this
easier for him or myself; how? and 3.) should I attempt this? (i.e.-
anyone done this kind of thing themselves or better yet, have knowlege of the
XThin  XSecure packages and know how to set them up/connect them?
Any help'd be great, even if it's a pointer to a doc or howto on the
subject. Also, if this is just not a good idea or way of doing this I'd
rather hear that than try and fail- I guess he (my friend) can stick with
non- X applications if he has to. It's just that he is great with images
and I'd like him to be able to use programs like the GIMP to create
graphics for our web pages, Quanta for writing HTML, or even smaller
utilities that would just be nice to have around, like xclock, emacs,
xcalc, Nedit, or xclipboard.
The documentation I've found isn't so hot on this subject. For
reference, the home page of the XThin  XSecure apps is
http://www.labtam-inc.com.
Thanks,
-jay


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[XFree86] kill the x server

2003-09-03 Thread Lars Kerbler
i have to kill my xserver, i dont know the name of the server because its 
starts by system. 
xkill -display asks for a display name,but  i dont know it.
i´m using suse linux 8.2.
XFree86 -version: 
XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: SuSE Linux [ELF] SuSE
Build Date: 17 March 2003
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Re: [XFree86] XFree86 digest: {X Remotely? HOWTOs, docs, FAQs?}

2003-09-03 Thread Alan Coopersmith
jayjwa+referer-news wrote:
Here is the situation: I've a friend in another state that I'd like to let
use my Xserver/clients (I don't even know if this is the right term for
this, basically, just to allow him to run the X-apps I have on my server
at his machine from his place, in another state.) 
That is running X clients from your machine displaying onto his X server.
(X servers manage the mouse, keyboard and display.  X clients connect to
 the X server to access those devices.)
I guess what I'm asking is: 1.) how can I set this up (or where to look
for a good example of this- docs, faqs, howto's, or whatever) 
Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO: http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html

For more info about X servers for Windows see the list on Kenton Lee's website
at http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.html
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Re: [XFree86] new to linux, please help with X

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, James Cherry wrote:

 I'm no X-pert, but aren't AGP devices always on bus 1:0:0?
 

   No, they aren't.

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RE: [XFree86] kill the x server

2003-09-03 Thread marcelmourguiart
Go to console mode ( [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[f1] )
enter as root
and put init 3 thats kill your X
them put init 5 and startx.

Marcel
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Subject: [XFree86] kill the x server
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 22:52:47 +0200


i have to kill my xserver, i dont know the name of the server because its

starts by system. 
xkill -display asks for a display name,but  i dont know it.
i?m using suse linux 8.2.
XFree86 -version: 
XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: SuSE Linux [ELF] SuSE
Build Date: 17 March 2003
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Re: [XFree86] XFree86 digest: {X Remotely? HOWTOs, docs, FAQs?}

2003-09-03 Thread remove-this-part_jayjwa+refSept303pmail
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

 jayjwa wrote:
  Here is the situation: I've a friend in another state that I'd like to let
  use my Xserver/clients (I don't even know if this is the right term for
  this, basically, just to allow him to run the X-apps I have on my server
  at his machine from his place, in another state.)

  I guess what I'm asking is: 1.) how can I set this up (or where to look
  for a good example of this- docs, faqs, howto's, or whatever)

 Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO: http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html

 For more info about X servers for Windows see the list on Kenton Lee's website
 at http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.html


Thanks, I'll check those out. Now it makes more sense- as to what the
functions of the various parts of the Window's XThin package are for. It
seemed strange to have an Xserver that nothing was connecting to!



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Re: [XFree86] [PATCH] [BUG] [REREPORT] fontconfig.pc

2003-09-03 Thread Rene Rebe
Hi,

On: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:16:13 -0400,
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:26:27PM +0200, Rene Rebe wrote:
 
 as mentioned weeks ago, current XFree CVS does not install a
 fontconfig.pc anymore (it did up to 4.3.99.6 or so when the fontconfig
 merge happend).
 
 This time a patch is attached (hereby relicensed to BSD, X11 whatever
 you like - as usual).
 
 In my personal project I would do it cleaner - but it is in the
 XFree86-way like implemented in Xcursor and Xft.
 
 Well, not quite -- there's no reason to duplicate files already in the
 source tree as your patch does, or to hardcode values that are defined
 elsewhere.  That's not usually the XFree86 way.

Ah yes those do not have an seperate .pc - but still:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/xc/lib$ find -name config-subst
./Xft/config/config-subst
./fontconfig/config/config-subst
./Xcursor/config-subst

and the difinitions what to SUBST in the Imakefile.

 Anyway, I've committed a fix for this problem, based on what was in
 XFree86 4.3 (rather than relicensing the GPL'd version you sent :-).
 
 Just a suggestion regarding licensing of patches: The best way to avoid
 all possible confusion is to make the licensing unambiguous.  I often
 go straight to the patch attachments, and that only has a GPL on it.

Ok  - the next time I rip it off before ...

I there a better way to send patches? [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be a
/dev/null target (mostly get lost) - and on this list I normally also
do not get responses ...

 Thanks for your report.

Thanks for fixing it.

 David

Sincerely yours,
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[XFree86] Help

2003-09-03 Thread Rafael Spotto
  Somebody could help me about this log?


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Re: [XFree86] [PATCH] [BUG] [REREPORT] fontconfig.pc

2003-09-03 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 12:16:19AM +0200, Rene Rebe wrote:

I there a better way to send patches? [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be a
/dev/null target (mostly get lost) - and on this list I normally also
do not get responses ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is still monitored.  There's
also bugs.xfree86.org.  Security-related issues should go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], which is also actively monitored.

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[XFree86] keystrokes being discarded

2003-09-03 Thread Russell Nelson
Hi.  I'm running CVS_head, at least as of yesterday morning.  When I
run it, everything seems to start up just fine.  I create an xterm and
twm lets me place it where I want.  But ... when I give xterm the
focus, it sees none of my keystrokes.  I can see shift keystrokes via
xev, and I have a keyboard map, or so says xmodmap -pk.  How can I
find out where my keystrokes have gone to?

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[XFree86] Kde doesn't start but XFree is ok

2003-09-03 Thread José Angel Rodríguez Leyva
Greetings,

This is my first post and my first experience with Xfree86. I downloaded 
and compile Xfree86 for first time today. I made all steps and I don't get 
any error during compiling process. I could install and then X server 
start OK, no errors were reported in log file. 

But no desktops starts. When I try to run startx command I got an error 
message telling that can't load libexpat.so module becouse is missing. I 
checked on /usr/X11R6/lib directory and it's there.

I'm working on RedHat 9.0 with previously installed Xfree. 

I have a doubt with gcc3. Is it ok for compiling Xfree? Is it specials
treatments on redhat?

Thanks for your attention.

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[XFree86] mandrake 8.1, brand new nvidia gforce, XFree86 4.3, ...a.out

2003-09-03 Thread Rob



1998 vintage pc with win98, dual boot to 
Linux.

X would not work on this pc because: 1) 64m shared 
ram (cpu and video), 2) mandrake min rqmts were 64m ram plus 2m ram on video 
card. Original video is onboard SiS597/598. (Actually it's the 
desktop application (gnome, kde, etc), it works, it is just so s-l-o-w that I 
would wait for hours for a screen click to respond.)

Bought a video card, Nvidea Gforce4, pci, 64m 
ram. 

No way that I can find to "disable" the onboard 
SiS. (Its not an option in "press F2" during bootup.)

Plugged in the new card anyway, ran micro$oft 
windows98, andnvidea Gforce works fine. (win98 device manager shows 
SiS disabled).

Downloaded, and ran, XFree86 4.3 Xinstall.sh 
-check. (also had extract in same subdirectory).

First error message "...file: command not 
found", then "...string: command not found", then

"object format is a.out"
"a.out no longer supported"

Is a.out a Mandrake 8.1 problem?
 If Mandrake problem - how do I 
fix?
Is a.out a SiS problem?
 If not Mandrake, but is SiS, I 
want to disable SiS anyway, how do Iget past this roadblock?
I also downloaded the nvidea driver. Should I 
skip XFree86 process and jump to nvidea?

Thanks,

robere






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Re: [XFree86] Help

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Vojkovich
   We're missing some context.  That is an error that should never
happen and indicates broken X-server or module code.  What were
you doing that caused that?

Mark.

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Rafael Spotto wrote:

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Re: [XFree86] mandrake 8.1, brand new nvidia gforce, XFree86 4.3,...a.out

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Rob wrote:

 object format is a.out
 a.out no longer supported

   Whatever you were trying to run there, you've got the wrong
binaries.  a.out is an old binary format used in the Linux 1.2
and earlier days.  


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RE: [XFree86] mandrake 8.1, brand new nvidia gforce, XFree86 4.3, ...a.out

2003-09-03 Thread Phil Pritchard



most 
motherboards if not in bios there will be a jumper on 
motherboard
a.out 
is the result of a compile (gcc)


  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of RobSent: 
  Thursday, 4 September 2003 7:24 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [XFree86] mandrake 8.1, brand 
  new nvidia gforce, XFree86 4.3, ..."a.out"
  1998 vintage pc with win98, dual boot to 
  Linux.
  
  X would not work on this pc because: 1) 64m 
  shared ram (cpu and video), 2) mandrake min rqmts were 64m ram plus 2m ram on 
  video card. Original video is onboard SiS597/598. (Actually it's 
  the desktop application (gnome, kde, etc), it works, it is just so s-l-o-w 
  that I would wait for hours for a screen click to respond.)
  
  Bought a video card, Nvidea Gforce4, pci, 64m 
  ram. 
  
  No way that I can find to "disable" the onboard 
  SiS. (Its not an option in "press F2" during bootup.)
  
  Plugged in the new card anyway, ran micro$oft 
  windows98, andnvidea Gforce works fine. (win98 device manager 
  shows SiS disabled).
  
  Downloaded, and ran, XFree86 4.3 Xinstall.sh 
  -check. (also had extract in same subdirectory).
  
  First error message "...file: command not 
  found", then "...string: command not found", then
  
  "object format is a.out"
  "a.out no longer supported"
  
  Is a.out a Mandrake 8.1 problem?
   If Mandrake problem - how do I 
  fix?
  Is a.out a SiS problem?
   If not Mandrake, but is SiS, I 
  want to disable SiS anyway, how do Iget past this 
roadblock?
  I also downloaded the nvidea driver. Should 
  I skip XFree86 process and jump to nvidea?
  
  Thanks,
  
  robere
  
  
  
  


Re: [XFree86] Help

2003-09-03 Thread Rob
I copied all the binaries and subdirectories from XF86.org release 4.3 to a
cd (took about 2 hours).

copied Xinstall.sh (from the common subdirectory) to a temporary directory
under root (/root/jrmtemp).

ran:   sh Xinstall.sh -check   from that temporary directory.

Got an error message saying I needed extract or extract.exe in the same
directory.

found extract in one of the linux-ix86-glibc2x subdirectories (I think
it was 23, I see now that extract is a different size in each of the
subdirectories.)

reran:   sh Xinstall.sh -check

got the a.out message, called for help.

Thanks!


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From: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [XFree86] Help


We're missing some context.  That is an error that should never
 happen and indicates broken X-server or module code.  What were
 you doing that caused that?

 Mark.

 On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Rafael Spotto wrote:

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