Re: [xmail] message logging
Hello, It is also possible that someone is sending spam messages directly, not via your mailserver. If you have a spam message, you can usually find out if this is the case by viewing the e-mail headers (often visible in the raw email source). Is your mail server listed in the headers (in a Received: line)? You could try to look into the XMail SMTP logs. Their location depends on the OS. If the spam mails are listed in these logs, something else is sending the emails to your XMail server and your XMail server is forwarding these spam messages. In this case you can find the IP address and possibly username of the sender. Possibly some account information for your mailserver has leaked, or the server may be configured as an open relay. You can also use a tool like wireshark or tcpdump to monitor communications on tcp port 25, which would also tell you if your server is sending spam mails (if it is sending at that moment). I hope this helps. Ivo Op 21-5-2013 16:26, Spyros Tsiolis schreef: Hello all, I have a situation with an installation where someone has managed to get hold of an e-mail address (the boss' actually) and is sending spam to the outside world. To an extend, I've managed to isolate the problem and it seems it's the mail server itself. I still don't know if it's XMail or an anti-spam solution I've adopted since about 2004. I would like to monitor the mail that goes out to the world. Can I do this with XMail ? Do I check the logs ? Which logs ? I've never done this before, so I would be greatful to any help. thank you, spyros I merely function as a channel that filters music through the chaos of noise - Vangelis ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Send mail through the XMail SMTP service
Hi Eelko, XMail does normally forward non-local e-mails to external SMTP servers. A more likely cause of your problem is that your ISP is blocking outbound access to SMTP ports to prevent spam. Try this: telnet smtp.gmail.com smtp, if that doesn't connect, that's your problem. If it does connect, your internet IP address is likely to be on dynamic IP blacklists, so your mail could easily disappear in spamfilters. A solution could be to configure your ISP's smtp server as a smart host (DefaultSMTPGateways) in XMail. Ivo Op 17-6-2012 19:45, Eelko schreef: Hello, I have a question about the configuration of XMail. I setup the XMail server for the domain home.lan. I created some users (eg. te...@home.lan and te...@home.lan) and I am able to send emails between these accounts. Now I wanna send an email from one of these test account to some internet email address, let's say my gmail account. Unfortunately XMail doesn't automatically forward the email to the gmail smtp server. How can I accomplish that XMail forward all email which cannot be delivered locally? BTW, the server can access the Internet and nslookup smtp.gmail.com gives a valid answer. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance, Eelko. ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Email all local accounts?
Hi, I don't think this is directly supported. You can generate a list of e-mail addresses from the mailusers file, for example using this command on linux: cat mailusers.tab | sed -n 's/^\([^]*\)\t\([^]*\)\t.*$/\2@\1/p' You could write the output to a file and pass it to sendmail using the --rcpt-file option. -- Ivo Op 18-11-2011 16:37, Fred schreef: Hey guys, Quick question; is there a way to broadcast an email to all XMail accounts on a single server? I need to inform everyone, about 800 accounts, that I will do hardware maintenance this week-end. Thanks ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] POP3 session getting stuck because of missing newline
Op 27-7-2011 14:44, Davide Libenzi schreef: On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, Ivo Smits wrote: However, even if the problem was caused by my antispam solution, I think that a crippled spool file should not break the POP3 session. Would it make sense to you to add a check to XMail to detect missing newlines (as well as incorrect end-of-message markers) while sending a message via POP3 (or SMTP)? This is certainly a corruption induced by mail handlers poking within the XMail internal spool files. SPAM messages are just like every other message, and they get properly terminated by newlines. A missing newline is no different from any other form of corruption, which, whatever handlers are piled up directly poking into the XMail internal spool, are not supposed to generate. A fix in whatever thing causing the issue is more likely a better place, isn't it? I agree that it is, and this is where I will (try to) fix the problem. However, I really think it would be better if XMail had some small checks on the data it sends to the POP3 client. Right now, a single corrupted spool file (for any reason) results in permanently broken SMTP sessions, with sometimes no proper notification and no easy way to diagnose and fix. Consider it as a feature request. Thanks for your great software. -- Ivo ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
[xmail] POP3 session getting stuck because of missing newline
Hello Davide, Sometimes my POP3 client (Mozilla Thunderbird) does no longer receive new messages from my XMail server. Some investigation shows that when the client attempts to retrieve (RETR) a particular e-mail, and XMail sends the message, the end-of-message marker is NOT on a line by itself, but rather added onto the last line of the message. It appears that the spool file for this particular message does also not have a newline at the end of the file, while other messages do. I think that this might be related. I am not sure why sometimes such an e-mail has no newline at the end of the file. This particular e-mail was SPAM, and was modified by SpamAssassin (with some helper script to deal with the XMail header). This might have stripped off the newline. However, even if the problem was caused by my antispam solution, I think that a crippled spool file should not break the POP3 session. Would it make sense to you to add a check to XMail to detect missing newlines (as well as incorrect end-of-message markers) while sending a message via POP3 (or SMTP)? I'm running XMail 1.27 from the Debian repository. -- Ivo ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Sendmail
Try this: bin/sendmail -fFROM_MAIL_ADDRESS --xinput-file /tmp/test TO_MAIL_ADDRESS (input, not imput - it will not understand and try to read the email from the console) Ivo Op 4-10-2010 17:55, Sergio C. schreef: I'm having a trouble with xmail sendmail program. After exporting MAIL_ROOT, I running this command from MAIL_ROOT directory: bin/sendmail -fFROM_MAIL_ADDRESS --ximput-file /tmp/test TO_MAIL_ADDRESS At this point the shell is hold. If I digit . (dot) and return, the prompt become ok but no message is sent. The xmail debug output is (after . imput): ErrCode = -55 ErrString = Invalid spool file Unable to load spool file /var/MailRoot/spool/1/7/mess/1286201189044.ad452b90.2f19.2b.gordian SMTP-Error = 554 Error loading spool file ErrCode = -55 ErrString = Invalid spool file Unable to load spool file /var/MailRoot/spool/14/10/mess/1286201189032.ad452b90.2f19.2a.gordian SMTP-Error = 554 Error loading spool file LMAIL [00] file processed: /var/MailRoot/spool/local/1286201187000.12102.gordian Filter run: Sender = FROM_MAIL_ADDRESS Recipient = TO_MAIL_ADDRESS Filter = /var/MailRoot/filters/av_filter/av_filter.sh Retcode = 0 SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = SMTP_SERVER. SMTP = telsey.out From = FROM_MAIL_ADDRESSt To = TO_MAIL_ADDRESS My environment is: Ubuntu server: 9.04 XMail server: 1.27 Thank you Bye. Sergio bh -- Io uso formati standard http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=43485 ed aperti http://www.odfalliance.org/. Per piacere, non obbligarmi ad usare formati proprietari come Microsoft Word od Excel.® Per leggere gli eventuali allegati: www.openoffice.org http://it.openoffice.org/ Per gli utenti di Microsoft Office® clicca qui http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter/ ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
[xmail] E-mail messages not stored as frozen after SMTP error 552
One of my XMail servers (MX1) is configured to forward (user mailproc.tab, SMTPRELAY) messages for a certain user to another XMail server (MX2). The second xmail server (MX2) returned a few EFULL SMTP errors (mailbox storage allocation was exceeded), resulting in MX1 sending bounce messages, just as expected. However, I can not find the undelivered messages anywhere; not in any of the spool/froz or Maildirs, even though XMail is configured not to delete failed messages. Is this behavior intended? Did I miss anything? Both servers are running the latest Debian XMail package, version 1.27. Best regards, and thank you for this great piece of software, Davide! Ivo Smits ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Large Queue Of Tempfails
I think you could use a filter to fix this. You can easily install a custom (shell/php/perl/whatever)script in the POST-RCPT filters and reject anything you don't like. Ivo Op 1-4-2010 20:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu schreef: On 1 Apr 2010, at 19:45, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: At any given time I have about 100 mails destined to go nowhere due to forged mail setting off a challenge, because the MX record is just . or sometimes dev.null. It would be nice if such errors were detected immediately. When these mails are in the queue, any new mail arriving by SMTP is delayed quite noticeably. Is there anything I can do about this except find /var/xmail/MailRoot/spool ! -type d -delete from time to time? Would it be possible to deal with new mail received by SMTP first, then the stuff in rsnd directories? The command above would be a really bad idea, as it'd nuke the spool :) On top of that, if you do that when XMail is running, you are going to mess up with it, since you are removing content from within its domain. At the moment you'd need to do it externally, by parsing the spool. But if you want to remove stuff from it, you better stop XMail before, and clean all the associated files inside the spool. Yep, XMail stopped by first touching MailRoot/.shutdown and waiting for the file to disappear for a few seconds. Then the above command, after checking that the files are only slog/* and rsnd/*, i.e., mails being retransmitted which I know I didn't send. The directories are left alone. Then restart, and it's snappy again. I will look at increasing the number of queue threads if it keeps happening. Cheers, Sabahattin ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
[xmail] Re: POP3 Logging
I think that 1.25 is included with Debian Testing. Unfortunately I don't know if it's actively being maintained (1.22 had been in there until recently!). Usually it's quite possible to mix packages of stable and testing distributions, you may, however, have to upgrade more packages (libraries) to the testing branch. Ivo - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:59 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: POP3 Logging On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jayson Keidel wrote: I'm using 1.22-5 the version that comes with the stable release of Debian That feature came with 1.25: http://www.xmailserver.org/ChangeLog.html#jan_3__2008_v_1_25 - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems
You could try to log the SMTP conversation beteen your server (XMail AND the other one) and the hotmail server. Maybe we can find something in there? You could use tcpdump (tcpdump -s 10240 tcp port 25). This won't be very useful however, when you use TLS. Ivo - Original Message - From: max toro q [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems Davide, I totally agree that Hotmail drops the messages, but I don't have that problem when I use Postfix. Can you think of a reason for that? 2008/3/21, Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, max toro q wrote: I don't think it's a SPF issue. I have another server with Postfix running, and all messages that I send to Hotnail through that server are delivered. But with Xmail messages get lost almost always. Lost? I doubt. Dropped by Hotmail, likely. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: how to reject catch-all mails
Hello Rico, You should not use a catch-all e-mail address or alias. Just make sure that only the e-mail addresses and aliases you really use exist on the server and everything else will be rejected automatically. Ivo - Original Message - From: Rico Hehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: [xmail] how to reject catch-all mails Hello, how can I configure XMail to reject mails for an account that doesn't exists on my server? For example I get spam mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I don't have such an account. And this email for a not existing account I like to reject. because I get thousands of spam mails every day to different domains I have but mostly to accounts I doesn't have on my server. Rico - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25 is out
Davice, How about (read-only) rsync? I think rsync is even better than HTTP HEAD. I can host (another) mirror in The Netherlands, but only if you need one. Ivo - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Davide Libenzi xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:03 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25 is out On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Filip Supera wrote: Bonjour Davide, Maybe Mihai will sort this out. All other mirrors but Italy, Netherland and Eye-Catcher are showing 1.25. Italy is still showing 1.22. May be you have to speak Italian to the webmaster. Should not be a big problem :-) I'm really not the kind of guy that likes to beg for things like this ;) If the mirror is no more up to date, I'd rather prefer to drop it. I understand. What are the requirements to become a XMail mirror ? If you want to have one in France, I think I can help. Honestly, to me, it bothers more when mirrors are not properly maintained, than not having them at all. A mirror requires a software that does proper sync (proper == use HTTP HEAD instead of downloading each time everything) once or twice a day, and an hostname for me to put as www.XX.xmailserver.org - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: problem with gmail
Maybe glst is dropping the connection when google doesn't expect it to be dropped.. Can you try without glst? - Original Message - From: Matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:52 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: problem with gmail The firewall is a Zyxel Zywall5 and the problem occoured aprox. 14 days ago and we haven't touched the firewall in any way for at least couple of months.I have also come to this conclusion but then it must be something on the way from google to our ISP. From every available network I could try EHLOcommand works just fine. Mail from other well known public providers works normal. Rob Arends pravi: Gut feel says there is a firewall (appliance?) that is forcing a limited set of SMTP commands. Like HELO, but not EHLO. The Cisco PIX does this if you have 'fixup smtp' on. Just turn it off. It will also allow authenticated SMTP too then. If not a FW, then dunno!! Rob :-) _ It might look like I'm doing nothing, but on a cellular level, I'm quite busy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matic Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] problem with gmail Hi, we have a problem with sending mail from gmail accounts to ourserver. Here is a delivery report from gmail: - Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical details of permanent failure: TEMP_FAILURE: Connection was dropped by remote host (SENT_EHLO) - There is no entry in log for this connection (which is kind of logical since the connection was presumably dropped before any useful data)T We are only using glst. Any ideason how to threat this problem? Matic - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the bodyof a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the bodyof a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Links --- 1 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 mailto:xmail@xmailserver.org 4 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre16
Why?? I think that most end users don't understand what the failure report actually says. Even the header line contains a message ID, while the original Subject means much more to the end user. Ofcourse, the more detailed information is important for tracing problems, but it is also important that the user knows that his e-mail will not arrive (or that it has just been 'delayed', so they don't have to retry). The detailed information can then be attached after a clear explanation of the problem, e-mail addresses and subject of the message. This information can easily be taken from the message by using `grep` from a shellscript. Besides that, I think that some administrators would like to have the reports in their own language. Ivo - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre16 On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: Hello Davide, While looking at your code, I noticed a mistake, in QueueUtils.php... the function name QueUtBuildErrorRespose .. should be respoNse I think? ;) Thank you, changed. I was actually looking for a way to edit error reports... I have suggested this before, but I would like to have your opinion.. Why? - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: eMail NOT automatically being requeued?
From David's email: -Qt timeout, -Qi ratio, -Qr nretries. Your server was set to retry 0 times... yes.. that's probably the problem.. Ivo - Original Message - From: Hal Dell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: eMail NOT automatically being requeued? Francis wrote: Sure, 4xx error codes should allways be considered as they are, = temporary errors, so the sending mta should retry according to it's own normal scheduling retry process. I noticed some other mta on the web changing some specific 4xx error to 'fatal' when received in particular places in the smtp session (after = some specific commands even if rfc says it's o to send this 4xx error at = this place). Could it be the case for xmail when sending ? I didn't check the code too :) I tried looking at the code and could NOT follow it. Anyone an expert at the xMail code base? David Lord wrote: I don't understand the NotifyTryPattern option -- is this in hours? None of the docs I found describe this in detail. These are simply the queue retry counts at which a notification email is sent to both postmaster and user that the email is still queued. By default xmail makes 32 retries but only slowly increases time between retries from initial period of 480 seconds set by commandline options -Qt timeout, -Qi ratio, -Qr nretries. It's probably not a good idea to change from defaults. Here is my command line: -Mr 6 -Pt 300 -Pl -Pw 5 -Ph -PI x.x.x.x:110 -PX 50 -St 300 -SI -SI x.x.x.x:25 -SI x.x.x.x:8291 -SX 50 -Sr 25 -Qn 50 -Qr 0 -Ql -Ct 300 -Cl -CI x.x.x.x:6017 -CX 4 -Ln 50 -Ll I was using XMailInstaller to config the command line -- could -Qr 0 be the problem? I update my command line to: -Mr 6 -Pt 300 -Pl -Pw 5 -Ph -PI x.x.x.x:110 -PX 50 -St 300 -Sl -SI x.x.x.x:25 -SI x.x.x.x:8291 -SX 50 -Sr 25 -Qn 50 -Ql -Ct 300 -Cl -CI x.x.x.x:6017 -CX 4 -Ln 50 -Ll I tired looking for a new version of XMailInstaller and all I could find is the save V0.0.2.0 from 2000! Thanks, Hal Dell Managing Partner ePodWorks.net, Inc. PO Box 22 Willow Grove, PA 19090 +1-215-830-0662 (phone) +1-215-913-6894 (cell) +1-866-549-4652 (fax) Need Support send eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre16
Hello Davide, While looking at your code, I noticed a mistake, in QueueUtils.php... the function name QueUtBuildErrorRespose .. should be respoNse I think? ;) I was actually looking for a way to edit error reports... I have suggested this before, but I would like to have your opinion.. I would like to create the error report from an external application (shellscript, php, binary, ...), like with the other filters. I think XMail could just set the environment variables (From, To, Time, original message filepath, error file path, ...) and then run the script. If the script returns code 0, XMail processes it's standard output (or some other file) and sends it to the administrator and sender. If the script returns any other code, it may send it's own reports using the local mailer (sendmail). In this case XMail shouldn't process the script's output. Using shellscript, php, perl or whatever, the administrator can easily write his own error reports. I've been looking at your error-handling code (in QueueUtils.cpp), and think that this should be possible to implement. I don't know c++ very well, but if you're not interested, I may try to implement it myself ;) Ivo - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: [xmail] 1.25-pre16 Here's -pre16 with the fixes for the problems (yep, more of them) found by David Lord: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre16.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre16.win32bin.zip - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Fw: Re: 1.25-pre14
Oops, sent from wrong account... Sorry Davide... Original message: Grm... I was just wondering why the pre14 link didn't work anymore! :p Anyway, pre15 has just replaces exim4 on my virtual colocated server... with valid reverse DNS name! Unfortunately, still no luck in sending emails to hotmail. Messages from my server to my hotmail account still end up in the Spam box, only replies to e-mail messages sent from hotmail (ifentified by the References header), arrive... Ivo - Original Message - From: Francesco Vertova [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org; xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14 At 21.19 10/06/07, Davide Libenzi wrote: I made pre15 with some new -M* options. You can select if to use only IPV4, only IPV6, IPV4 if present or IPV6, IPV6 if present or IPV4. It defaults to the former at the moment. For those wishing a clickable link: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre15.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre15.win32bin.zip Ciao, Francesco - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
Davide, I've been experimenting with IPv6 (using 6to4), some addresses are not reachable over 6to4, at least telnet and firefox retry over IPv4 after a (too big) delay. I think XMail should do this too, and also needs an option to completely disable (sending over) IPv6 to prevent delays on systems that don't have IPv6. Ivo - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14 On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: Hello, The problem is probably in both MX'es having an IPv6 () record: C.secondary-mx.co.uk. 60 IN 2001:8b0:0:81::51bb:510d I think XMail only tries the 'best' address it finds for each MX. The IPv6 address is ofcourse preferred over the IPv4 one. Davide: how about an option (command line) to completely turn of (at least) sending of emails over IPv6? That's *very* likely the reason. I need to find a solution for that. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
Hello, The problem is probably in both MX'es having an IPv6 () record: C.secondary-mx.co.uk. 60 IN 2001:8b0:0:81::51bb:510d I think XMail only tries the 'best' address it finds for each MX. The IPv6 address is ofcourse preferred over the IPv4 one. Davide: how about an option (command line) to completely turn of (at least) sending of emails over IPv6? Or does the RFC tell you to try IPv4 if IPv6 doesn't work? Sounds fine to me :) Ivo - Original Message - From: David Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14 On 31 May 2007, at 12:32, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007, David Lord wrote: I used same commandline as for pre11. From your original post I understood that the IPV6 options were only needed if there was an active IPV6 connection which I no longer have working. -Md -Mr 168 -Pl -Pw 12 -Sl -Ql -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 -Yl -Fl -Cl -Ll -Yi 1380 -Lt 19 It could be the 1 hr outage yesterday has caused some problem with mail delivery to lordynet.me.uk but I've not seen reports of this. DNS-stuff indicates higher priority MX is giving 550 response to a valid user. That looks like it may be a different problem though. I'll ask on isp's irc channel. My pre14 is running w/out problems at xmailserver.org. I disabled IPV6 options because GLST is not working ATM. But it ran fine with GLST disabled for a while (modulo some SPAM messages getting through :) Another thing to keep in mind, is that, if your parse IP addresses emitted by XMail (with IPV6 options enabled), IPs are in IPV6 format. Connections coming though a mapped IPV4 network will have the format: :::XXX.YYY.WWW.ZZZ Yes but I don't have any form of IPV6 connectivity, native or via a tunnel or otherwise. That doesn't stop host lookups from returning ipv6 addresses to queries which does cause me some problems where applications don't have a -4 option. With pre11 I don't see any problem. With pre14 I only seem to have a problem with delivery to my lordynet.me.uk domain which always gives the ErrCode = -3 Network kernel error. On switching back to pre11 all the still queued failed emails go out ok. freezone.co.uk mail is handled by 10 mx1.freezone.co.uk. freezone.co.uk mail is handled by 10 mx2.freezone.co.uk. mx1.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.13 mx1.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.18 mx1.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.28 mx2.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.14 mx2.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.15 mx2.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.16 lordynet.me.uk mail is handled by 30 tertiary-mx.co.uk. lordynet.me.uk mail is handled by 20 C.secondary-mx.co.uk. C.secondary-mx.co.uk has address 81.187.81.13 C.secondary-mx.co.uk has IPv6 address 2001:8b0:0:81::51bb:510d tertiary-mx.co.uk has address 81.187.30.42 tertiary-mx.co.uk has IPv6 address 2001:8b0:0:30::51bb:1e2a When I get a lot of extra time I'll reconfigure firewall so I can use the spare to send emails and Pegasus to use the spare as smarthost. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: IPV6
Hello Davide,
Somehow it fails to compile. Don't ask me why.. The system does support IPv6
(and even has IPv6 connectivity, if the tunnel isn't down...)
I would really like to have IPv6 in XMail..
Btw, I tried to compile on 2 machines (one running Debian/Linux 'Lenny', the
other one running 'Sarge').
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gcc test.c
test.c: In function 'main':
test.c:5: error: storage size of 'ina' isn't known
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat test.c
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/socket.h
int main(void) {
struct sockaddr_in6 ina;
socket(PF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, 0);
ina.sin6_family = AF_INET6;
return 0;
}
- Original Message -
From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:53 PM
Subject: [xmail] IPV6
As I'm adding IPV6 support to XMail, are there any *nix platform not
having IPV6 support?
Linux:Check
FreeBSD:
NetBSD:
OpenBSD:
OSX:
Solaris:
That is, is the program below building and linking fine?
--
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/socket.h
int main(void) {
struct sockaddr_in6 ina;
socket(PF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, 0);
ina.sin6_family = AF_INET6;
return 0;
}
--
My guess is that all of them are OK, but I'd like to double check...
- Davide
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[xmail] Invalid command 'forward' in mailproc: email dropped?
Hello, I've put an invalid command (forward, instead of redirect) in a users mailproc.tab. Today was the first time that anyone actually sent an email to that address. Xmail has sent the following error to the syslog: May 9 16:06:07 LocalHost XMail[1925]: Invalid command forward in file /var/lib/xmail/spool/5/17/mprc/1178719567343.2820668336.23d1.Core But it did NOT notify the remote mailserver that it could not process the mail. I think XMail just dropped the message (I can't find it in the user's mailbox...). The entry in the smtp log: UFO-Net.nl UFO-Net.nl 193.176.144.241 2007-05-09 16:06:07 gw2a.domain-registry.nl thedomain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] S19B77 RCPT=OK 0 UFO-Net.nl UFO-Net.nl 193.176.144.241 2007-05-09 16:06:07 gw2a.domain-registry.nl thedomain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] S19B77 RECV=OK 2981 Is it possible that XMail stored the email somewhere? (No, it's not in the spool, there's no mailbox entry in the mailproc.tab file, and the users mailbox is empty..). Shouldn't xmail return a temporary error to the sending server, so I can fix the error? Or forward the message to the postmaster/system admin, or keep it in the spool? -- Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Hotmail not acceting mail from us
Hello, SenderID (or SPF) can be implemented in a spamfilter, but that is only needed when you want to filter incoming email. To solve the hotmail problem, you only need access to the DNS server for your domain. You have to add a TXT record for your domain name that looks like this: @ IN TXT v=spf1 a mx ?all This allows mail (originating from your domain) from the IPs in ALL 'A' and 'MX' records in your domain. However, this did not help for me, mail is still sent to the spam box or does just disappear :( Some other mailserver rejected the .dsl.ip.tiscali.nl suffix in my reverse-DNS name, hotmail may have the same 'problem'? If you manage to fix this, PLEASE tell me what you did.. :) Also note that hotmail allows mail from senders in your contacts list much faster. Ivo - Original Message - From: Pedro Jaramillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: [xmail] Hotmail not acceting mail from us Hello all, All emails sent to hotmail are not being accepted nor delivered. = Hotmail is asking me to do this: If you are an e-mail sender, you simply need to create an SPF = record and add it to the DNS records of your domain. = The Sender ID Framework SPF Record Wizard (anti-spamtools.org) = walks you through a step-by-step process to create your SPF record. To = perform Sender ID validation, your ISP or system administrator will = need to update to Sender ID=96compliant software. Is xMail a Sender ID=96compliant software?? Sincerely, Pedro A. Jaramillo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Hotmail not acceting mail from us
Tony, They will, but only when asked by fax... I will do that soon :) Ivo - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Hotmail not acceting mail from us Ivo; Will not your ISP change your RDNS data if you ask? Tony - Original Message - From: Ivo Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Hotmail not acceting mail from us Hello, SenderID (or SPF) can be implemented in a spamfilter, but that is only needed when you want to filter incoming email. To solve the hotmail problem, you only need access to the DNS server for your domain. You have to add a TXT record for your domain name that looks like this: @ IN TXT v=spf1 a mx ?all This allows mail (originating from your domain) from the IPs in ALL 'A' and 'MX' records in your domain. However, this did not help for me, mail is still sent to the spam box or does just disappear :( Some other mailserver rejected the .dsl.ip.tiscali.nl suffix in my reverse-DNS name, hotmail may have the same 'problem'? If you manage to fix this, PLEASE tell me what you did.. :) Also note that hotmail allows mail from senders in your contacts list much faster. Ivo - Original Message - From: Pedro Jaramillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: [xmail] Hotmail not acceting mail from us Hello all, All emails sent to hotmail are not being accepted nor delivered. = Hotmail is asking me to do this: If you are an e-mail sender, you simply need to create an SPF = record and add it to the DNS records of your domain. = The Sender ID Framework SPF Record Wizard (anti-spamtools.org) = walks you through a step-by-step process to create your SPF record. To = perform Sender ID validation, your ISP or system administrator will = need to update to Sender ID=96compliant software. Is xMail a Sender ID=96compliant software?? Sincerely, Pedro A. Jaramillo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?
This sounds like hotmail-policy. E-mail that may be spam, can just vanish, even when it has been accepted by their SMTP server, and there was no failure report at all. What can you do about this? I still don't really know. You should at least check that the HELO-domain is valid, does not contain something that looks like your IP address, and points back to the IP of the mailserver. Ivo - Original Message - From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [xmail] Vanishing mails? I have a user who is telling me that they attempted to send email to various places and the emails are simply vanishing. One of the places is to the place they work, and another was to Yahoo. I've looked in my logs, and I see the mail coming into my server (verified by the SMTP logs showing the sender as my local user and the recipient as the remote user), and I see the SMAIL entry showing the mail being delivered by SMTP - but I don't see any way to confirm that the mail was actually delivered to Yahoo or to their work machine. Where would I look to verify delivery? Does the fact that there's an entry in the SMAIL log with delivery method SMTP mean that the delivery attempt to the remote server was successful (meaning that there was no SMTP error generated during the protocol session and there was no DNS lookup or other transmission difficulty - I understand that mailbox delivery on the other side cannot be guaranteed)? Any ideas on where to look would be appreciated. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?
What OS do you use on your mailserver? You can use tcpdump (on linux) or WireShark (windows and linux) to capture the SMTP session with the remote SMTP server, and see all the response codes and commands from both sides. Ivo - Original Message - From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Vanishing mails? Local mail server configuration is reasonably correct. The HELO domain setting is a valid FQDN and looking up that FQDN gives the IP address of the mail server. I deliver mail from other users to Yahoo (no one else on my server sends email to this particular user's place of business) without problem. I'm just looking for a way to prove that the mail isn't simply vanishing into thin air on *my* server - once I can confirm it successfully left my server, then I can start worrying about what happens to it on the remote server. Ivo Smits wrote: This sounds like hotmail-policy. E-mail that may be spam, can just vanish, even when it has been accepted by their SMTP server, and there was no failure report at all. What can you do about this? I still don't really know. You should at least check that the HELO-domain is valid, does not contain something that looks like your IP address, and points back to the IP of the mailserver. Ivo - Original Message - From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [xmail] Vanishing mails? I have a user who is telling me that they attempted to send email to various places and the emails are simply vanishing. One of the places is to the place they work, and another was to Yahoo. I've looked in my logs, and I see the mail coming into my server (verified by the SMTP logs showing the sender as my local user and the recipient as the remote user), and I see the SMAIL entry showing the mail being delivered by SMTP - but I don't see any way to confirm that the mail was actually delivered to Yahoo or to their work machine. Where would I look to verify delivery? Does the fact that there's an entry in the SMAIL log with delivery method SMTP mean that the delivery attempt to the remote server was successful (meaning that there was no SMTP error generated during the protocol session and there was no DNS lookup or other transmission difficulty - I understand that mailbox delivery on the other side cannot be guaranteed)? Any ideas on where to look would be appreciated. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
Rollernet (http://www.rollernet.us/) can provide you with outgoing SMTP relay services (not free). Your ISP may also provide you with some (usually free) email relay. It may even be possible (I'm not sure about this) to get some static IP address, over a VPN connection. Ivo - Original Message - From: Robert Schiffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS If you are on Verizon DSL they should also provide you with email accounts. If this is so, you could use their mail server as a gateway for your mail server. I've done this in the past with a DSL provider. Edmonds, J.B. wrote: Excuse me if this is a worn out topic but until recently I had no reason to follow this. I am a network admin for a 1500 member non-profit who has run its own web and email server for over 10 years. We recently relocated to a Verizon area in the states that has only DSL available and Static IP is NOT available. We decided to use DynDNS as our solution and it works fine for web services. It works OK for email EXCEPT we cannot deliver mail to AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero customers, as they apparently block dynamic address IP address ranges. If any of you have been, or are in this situation, can you provide me some possible solutions. I have investigated relay via DynDNS and SMTPAUTH but they charge by the recipient and one newsletter distribution a month approaches the cost of having our domain hosted by a commercial provider. I actually considered this option until I see buried in the hosting sites and agreements a disclaimer that they will not guarantee email delivery to AOL and Verizon. We have lots of members with AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero accounts. The obvious solution is to move the server offsite but this doubles the cost of service. Do you have experience with relay service providers and recommendations? JB Edmonds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert Schiffman Director of Technology Lounge Lizard Worldwide, Inc. 620 Johnson Ave. Suite 1B Bohemia, NY 11716 631-563-6165 ext. 21 631-563-6278 (fax) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS / Don't use SPF
Someone pointed out that SPF may cause other problems. A recent example: I ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) tried to email some abuse department, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This address was redirected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] My server delivers my email to MX1.example.com, which redirects the email. MX1.isp.com sees a mail from the IP of MX1.example.com, with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED], it then checks the SPF record for UFO-Net.nl and notices that MX1.example.com is not allowed to send this mail. So probably everyone will end up with a SPF record that tells the other mailserver to just accept email from everywhere (even GMail uses this record!). The only use of SPF may be to skip some resource-expensive checks like spamassassin. Ivo - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS Just notice that using a 'external' relay server (even if it is your = own isp) can also be denies at final destination servers if the external = relay server is not declared in some way to be 'legitimate' to send mails of behalf of the sending domain (I have in mind spf for example). So the relay provider or you will (on dns with spf record for spf = example) have to do some work ... If at this time spf and other 'sender server checks' algo are not = largely used, they will become. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Ivo Smits Envoy=E9 : jeudi 26 avril 2007 15:49 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS Rollernet (http://www.rollernet.us/) can provide you with=20 outgoing SMTP=20 relay services (not free). Your ISP may also provide you with=20 some (usually=20 free) email relay. It may even be possible (I'm not sure about=20 this) to get=20 some static IP address, over a VPN connection. Ivo - Original Message -=20 From: Robert Schiffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS If you are on Verizon DSL they should also provide you with email accounts. If this is so, you could use their mail server as=20 a gateway for your mail server. I've done this in the past with a DSL=20 provider. Edmonds, J.B. wrote: Excuse me if this is a worn out topic but until recently I=20 had no reason to follow this. I am a network admin for a 1500 member non-profit who has=20 run its own web and email server for over 10 years. We recently relocated to a Verizon area in the states that has only DSL available and=20 Static IP is NOT available. We decided to use DynDNS as our solution=20 and it works fine for web services. It works OK for email EXCEPT we=20 cannot deliver mail to AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero customers, as=20 they apparently block dynamic address IP address ranges. If any of you have been, or are in this situation, can you=20 provide me some possible solutions. I have investigated relay via DynDNS and SMTPAUTH but they charge by the recipient and one newsletter distribution a month approaches the cost of having our=20 domain hosted by a commercial provider. I actually considered this option=20 until I see buried in the hosting sites and agreements a disclaimer=20 that they will not guarantee email delivery to AOL and Verizon. We have lots of members with AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero accounts. The obvious solution is to move the server offsite but this=20 doubles the cost of service. Do you have experience with relay service=20 providers and recommendations? JB Edmonds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --=20 Robert Schiffman Director of Technology Lounge Lizard Worldwide, Inc. 620 Johnson Ave. Suite 1B Bohemia, NY 11716 631-563-6165 ext. 21 631-563-6278 (fax) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] =20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?
Ethereal is now WireShark ;) You can filter on the SMTP port (TCP 25), and the right host (MX addresses of yahoo/the other domain). This results in something like (tcpdump / low level ethereal filter): tcp port 25 and (host a.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host b.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host c.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host d.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host e.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host f.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host g.mx.mail.yahoo.com) Ivo - Original Message - From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Vanishing mails? Running Xmail 1.24 on Windows 2000 Server. I have enough traffic that logging all the mail sessions would become quite disk intensive. I think I'd rather pursue other alternatives before resorting to that (if I need to go that route, I can always crank up ethereal and just sit and watch...) Ivo Smits wrote: What OS do you use on your mailserver? You can use tcpdump (on linux) or WireShark (windows and linux) to capture the SMTP session with the remote SMTP server, and see all the response codes and commands from both sides. Ivo - Original Message - From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Vanishing mails? Local mail server configuration is reasonably correct. The HELO domain setting is a valid FQDN and looking up that FQDN gives the IP address of the mail server. I deliver mail from other users to Yahoo (no one else on my server sends email to this particular user's place of business) without problem. I'm just looking for a way to prove that the mail isn't simply vanishing into thin air on *my* server - once I can confirm it successfully left my server, then I can start worrying about what happens to it on the remote server. Ivo Smits wrote: This sounds like hotmail-policy. E-mail that may be spam, can just vanish, even when it has been accepted by their SMTP server, and there was no failure report at all. What can you do about this? I still don't really know. You should at least check that the HELO-domain is valid, does not contain something that looks like your IP address, and points back to the IP of the mailserver. Ivo - Original Message - From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [xmail] Vanishing mails? I have a user who is telling me that they attempted to send email to various places and the emails are simply vanishing. One of the places is to the place they work, and another was to Yahoo. I've looked in my logs, and I see the mail coming into my server (verified by the SMTP logs showing the sender as my local user and the recipient as the remote user), and I see the SMAIL entry showing the mail being delivered by SMTP - but I don't see any way to confirm that the mail was actually delivered to Yahoo or to their work machine. Where would I look to verify delivery? Does the fact that there's an entry in the SMAIL log with delivery method SMTP mean that the delivery attempt to the remote server was successful (meaning that there was no SMTP error generated during the protocol session and there was no DNS lookup or other transmission difficulty - I understand that mailbox delivery on the other side cannot be guaranteed)? Any ideas on where to look would be appreciated. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ...
Heheh.. try [EMAIL PROTECTED] The A record points to 192.168.0.51 and there is no MX... Ivo - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:05 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre06 ... On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Tom Banting wrote: How can you get an A record if the name servers are off line? What am I missing? The only A records you have are for the off line name servers. Doesn't matter. I can see the attempt to deliver to the A-record from the logs. That's enough for me. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time.
Can't you set the client to connect to POP before it sends the e-mail? Microsoft Outlook Express can do this. But I agree that SMTP auth is better :) Ivo - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time. Best way is to tell your messaging client software to 'authenticate' on = smtp sessions. Doing this, smtp sessions are completly independant from pop sessions. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Chris Jones Envoy=E9 : mardi 17 avril 2007 17:49 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Xmail blocks outgoing email after a short time. I have specified Authentication Allowed in the email client. =20 In user tab: RealName Chris Jones HomePage http://enersave.ca; MaxMBSize 3 MaxMessageSize1 SmtpPerms MRV ReceiveEnable 1 PopEnable 1 In the server tab: EnableAuthSMTP-POP3 1 If I try to send an email more than 5 minutes after I check email, it=20 gets blocked. I check the email then I can sent again. How do I=20 specify the length of time between checks so that I can send=20 without checking? Thanks for your ongoing help! Chris Jones Enersave Logistics 14 Oneida Avenue Toronto, ON M5J2E3 Tel. 416 203-7465 Fax. 416 946-1005 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: XP Issue
Do you have all windows updates and service packs installed? You can also try 1.25-pre06 from http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre06.win32bin.zip Replacing the EXE and DLL files should be enough to test (if you want to USE 1.25-pre06, you should change your configuration). Ivo Smits - Original Message - From: Edmonds, J.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: [xmail] XP Issue This past week I built up a new Windows XP workstation and decided to move my Xmail server to it. I am running 1.22 and installed 1.24. I moved or re-created my TAB files, etc. When I went to install the service and run it, I get an error message that the program failed to load. Thinking I had a bad executable, I downloaded the files again and replaced all of the EXE and DLL files in \bin directory. Same error. Doesn't get far enough to generate a log or do anything. I copied the 1.22 xmail.exe file and the service starts perfectly. Replace it with 1.24 and it fails. I have not seen any reports from others with this problem. Any suggestion or help JB Edmonds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Delivery failure report and passwords in log files
I agree with you. But I would really prefer some macro based system, we can
tell the user that we failed to deliver a message, but the user still
doesn't know WHAT message.
If we could use a shell script (or other external application), like the
filters (pass rcpt-to and from addresses, original message filename, xmail
log filename as command line arguments), we could do anything we want.
Just 'echo' any text, include plain text files using 'cat' ('type' on
windows), on unix/linux: use 'grep' to include the original subject in the
error message, add date/time/whatever.
This may also be easier to implement than a template/macro parser.
Ivo
- Original Message -
From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:22 PM
Subject: [xmail] Re: Delivery failure report and passwords in log files
Keep in mind not all final users are :
- english speaking :)
- use a 'isp' as they 'postmaster', and large isp rarely take time to
explain any error, at least free of charge.
A simple way to 'personalize' the bounces/ndr/... could be :
Each time Xmail have to send a bounce/ndr/... it searchs for a text file
in
a subdir (mailroot/errors/ ?) :
- if it found a EEE.txt file with EEE = error code, use its content as
start
of the mail/error report
- if not, find a more generic file EE.txt (like 55.txt for 55x errors) and
if found , use its content as start of the mail/error report
- if not, find a more generic file E.txt (like 5.txt for 5xx errors) and
if
found , use its content as start of the mail/error report
- if none is found, use a generic.txt file if exist as start of the
mail/error report
- if none found, use none :)
Finally append 'standard xmail' infos at bottom.
Simple and fast no ?
Enhancements could then be use of macros in the text files to insert
original infos, like sender, receiver, real final, send host name or ip,
...
(use same macros as filters ? so little code to write ?)
Its just a suggestion :)
Francis
-Message d'origine-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13/04/07 20:42
Objet: [xmail] Re: Delivery failure report and passwords in log files
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Ivo Smits wrote:
Davide (and all other list members ofcourse),
Is it possible to change the Delivery failed email?
I really like all those details (return codes, timestamps), but the
average
end user probably had no idea what the mail is about.
It would be nice if I could change at least the first part of the
message,
best would be to use some template with special tags to include
from/to
addresses.
If that is difficult, why not make XMail run a simple shell script
with some
arguments that creates a failure report? :)
By the way, does XMail still show plain passwords in POP3 and CTRL
logs? and
is it possible to only show the encrypted/no password at all in the
logs?
A delivery failure report is only partially for the user. It is supposed
to give the more info as possible to the postmaster when the user ping
them about the error.
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[xmail] Re: Delivery failure report and passwords in log files
I completely agree on that. The information should definately be there. But I would like to be able to control at least the first part of the message, just a simple message, including some basic info, so that the end user can understand what is happening (and for example knows that it is only a temporary failure, which is not really clear now). I'd also like the subject of the original message to be included in the subject/first lines of the report. Anyway, if we could use an external application (or shellscript), like we can use filters (command line arguments...), we could do whatever we want. Please think about it :) Oh, By the way, does XMail still show plain passwords in POP3 and CTRL logs? and is it possible to only show the encrypted/no password at all in the logs? Thank you! Ivo - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Delivery failure report and passwords in log files On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: Davide (and all other list members ofcourse), Is it possible to change the Delivery failed email? I really like all those details (return codes, timestamps), but the average end user probably had no idea what the mail is about. It would be nice if I could change at least the first part of the message, best would be to use some template with special tags to include from/to addresses. If that is difficult, why not make XMail run a simple shell script with some arguments that creates a failure report? :) By the way, does XMail still show plain passwords in POP3 and CTRL logs? and is it possible to only show the encrypted/no password at all in the logs? A delivery failure report is only partially for the user. It is supposed to give the more info as possible to the postmaster when the user ping them about the error. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Delivery failure report and passwords in log files
Hello Ana Paula, That may work indeed, but it would be the worst (performance.. ?) way to do so, and it's also more difficult to modify a email message than it is to write a new one (from a shellscript). Ivo - Original Message - From: Ana Paula Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Delivery failure report and passwords in log files Hi, To create a custom Delivery failed you need to create a simple script to change the email, with filters.post-data.tab or other. Combine filters.post-data.tab with Local Mailer (http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#xmail_local_mailer). Ana Paula On 4/13/07, Ivo Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davide (and all other list members ofcourse), Is it possible to change the Delivery failed email? I really like all those details (return codes, timestamps), but the average end user probably had no idea what the mail is about. It would be nice if I could change at least the first part of the message, best would be to use some template with special tags to include from/to addresses. If that is difficult, why not make XMail run a simple shell script with some arguments that creates a failure report? :) By the way, does XMail still show plain passwords in POP3 and CTRL logs? and is it possible to only show the encrypted/no password at all in the logs? Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre05 ...
http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rr.html: IPv6 address, code 28. Used for storing an IPv6 128-bit address associated with a domain name. Defined in RFC 3596. The code 28 looks like it refers to an IPv6 record, indeed. XMail should just drop this answer, unless XMail supports IPv6 or there is no A record available, then it may (should?) log the error. Ivo - Original Message - From: Ana Paula Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:15 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre05 ... Hi again, I have upgrade to 1.25-pre05, the debug mode returning some times: Unknow DNS record type 28 Sorry for my ignorance, but this is related with IPv6 ? http://rfc.net/rfc1886.html Ana Paula On 4/10/07, Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org wrote: Here it is 1.25-pre05: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre05.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre05.win32bin.zip I reverted the thread stack code. For ppl using Linux+NPTL, the best solution to avoid the 350 threads cap on 32 bit systems is to do a `ulimit -s 128` (I out it in the xmail startup script). In pre05 I made the DNS error message to became a message level, and hence do not show up in the Event Log. The big change remains the DNS lookup code. On @xmailserver.org is working like a charm so far. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre04 ...
Most likely, you (or one of your users) is trying to send email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or someone is sending mail TO you from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You could try to temporary disable the CheckMailerDomain, and check your
SMTP logs to see who is trying to send mail related to pellicano.biz.
Ivo
- Original Message -
From: Ana Paula Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: [xmail] Re: 1.25-pre04 ...
I agree, but i have thousand of entrances of this, all for
pellicano.biz, all after and immediately after the upgrade. I only
running 1.25-pre04 for 30 minutes.
Ana Paula
On 4/10/07, Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Ana Paula Fernandes wrote:
Hi,
I using 1.25-pre02 without problem, i have upgrade to 1.25-pre04 and
my Event Log has full with this:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: XMail
Event Category: None
Event ID: 0
Date: 09/04/2007
Time: 23:17:00
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( XMail ) cannot be
found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote
computer. The following information is part of the event: Maximum DNS
query depth 32 exceeded ('pellicano.biz')
..
Correct behaviour. Try:
$ dig pellicano.biz mx +trace +all
[after a very long list]
dig: too many lookups
== Broken DNS
- Davide
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[xmail] Re: ENODNS Error
It looks like returns.bulk.yahoo.com has ONLY MX records, no A records... ; DiG 9.3.4 returns.bulk.yahoo.com IN A ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33585 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;returns.bulk.yahoo.com.IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: yahoo.com. 60 IN SOA ns1.yahoo.com. hostmaster.yahoo-inc.com. 2007040801 3600 300 1814400 600 ;; Query time: 34 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Sun Apr 8 19:36:29 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 101 - Original Message - From: David Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: ENODNS Error On 7 Apr 2007, at 20:08, Don Drake wrote: I don't get it. I just upgraded to 1.24 (more emails on that later), and I'm still getting ENODNS from @returns.bulk.yahoo.com. I just commented out my SmartDNSHost setting and cleared dnscache and it's still occurring. Now that I'm grasping for straws, the from email is quite large (it's 99 characters), would that matter? Just be clear, CheckMailerDomain checks that the 'MAIL FROM:' domain exists (MX or A record) and not the IP/name of the sender? -Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:39 PM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: ENODNS Error On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Don Drake wrote: Sure do: SmartDNSHost 10.1.0.15:tcp,216.86.146.9:udp Then you have to see MX queries, unless they're cached. The *only* way you get into the ENODNS error, if after XMail tried MX queries before and A record after. I normally have CheckMailerDomain disabled and just tried with MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it was accepted. Then enabled CheckMailerDomain and same MAIL FROM: is rejected with 505 Your domain has not DNS/MX entries This is 1.25-pre02. 'host returns.bulk.yahoo.com' gives list of six mx hosts, c1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com etc, and for each of those I see what appears to be an A record. Now I try MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK Now I try MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK Now I disable CheckMailerDomain again. So there is something odd about returns.bulk.yahoo.com. That's about my limit to working out dns issues. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: ENODNS Error
It SHOULD check at the nameservers for yahoo.com, if they return the requested record (MX), the resolver has its answer (which is the case!), if it does not return the requested record type, it should retry at the returned NS records. The DNS IS NOT broken.Sorry, Davide, it really looks like a bug in your code to me ;) I think that your resolver is trying to fetch the NS records for c2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com, which do not exist, and fails, while it should just use the NS records of yahoo.com. Isn't there a way to just use a system resolver function, instead of your own recursive resolver? To see what *should be* going on, try: dig returns.bulk.yahoo.com IN MX +trace ns1.yahoo.com returns: returns.bulk.yahoo.com. 1800IN MX 1 c2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com. returns.bulk.yahoo.com. 1800IN MX 1 c3.bullet.mud.yahoo.com. returns.bulk.yahoo.com. 1800IN MX 1 c4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com. returns.bulk.yahoo.com. 1800IN MX 1 c5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com. returns.bulk.yahoo.com. 1800IN MX 1 c6.bullet.mud.yahoo.com. returns.bulk.yahoo.com. 1800IN MX 1 c1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns3.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns4.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns5.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns8.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns9.yahoo.com. ;; Received 499 bytes from 66.218.71.63#53(ns1.yahoo.com) in 202 ms - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: ENODNS Error On Sun, 8 Apr 2007, Dave Taylor wrote: I have the same ENODNS with xmail 1.21 Interestingly, dnsreport.com for returns.bulk.yahoo.com says: I was unable to get an answer from the parent servers [bulk.yahoo.com], when I tried to find the NS records for returns.bulk.yahoo.com. Could that be the problem? Probably a broken DNS: http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=returns.bulk.yahoo.com. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Receiving Mail multiple times
Maybe it has something to do with *some* specific sender/receiver client software? I have received all your e-mails only once! Maybe your mail client adds some strange header that confuses the mail client of your mailserver-users and John Kielkopf? I'm using Microsoft Outlook Express 6. I recommend to: 1. Find out when it happens (does it depend on the receiver/sender address/software/IP/...) 2. Use a packet monitor (for example Ethereal, which is now called WireShark) 3. Try to send a message that will arrive twice (using what you found in step 1) Ivo - Original Message - From: Aaron Fransen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Receiving Mail multiple times I sure didn't mean to send it 4 times, but it seems like the exact problem I'm talking about! I can see where the quit/delete sequence might be causing a problem so I'm going to rejigger the client app to see if that fixes the problem. The server is running on Windows 2003 (ugh) and there really isn't much else running to interfere with it (MySQL, Apache are the only other apps). Francis: You had mentioned you thought it might be connectivity, however the web client app and the XMail server are running on the same box... On 3/21/07, John Kielkopf john@webifi.com wrote: Davide can correct me if I'm wrong, but the POP3 server shouldn't delete the messages until after the QUIT command is sent. Deleting the message after each retrieval only queues the message for deletion at QUIT. If you're receiving the duplicates in the same POP3 session, then it rules out an early session termination as the cause. Are you positive this is the case? If so, how one single email message in a user's Xmail maildir can turn into duplicate messages in the same POP3 session is beyond me. What OS is your Xmail server running on? What other services are running on the server? Have you tried an older Xmail version? Also, you sent this message the list 4 times. Did you intend this? Aaron Fransen wrote: I've had the issue both with local clients and remote clients running over a very expensive MPLS network, and in all the scanning I've done I can't see any issues with connectivity. File locking? Hm, it's possible, however there's no AV software running on the server (not live, just batched once in a while and not when these problems are happening). In terms of the sequence of events, the mail client I wrote (I can't speak to how Outlook is having the same problem, but with my program I can!) it fetches each email individually then sends the command to the server to delete it, then processes the next message. Maybe I should do it the other way? Process them all THEN go back and delete them? The duplicates happen right away too, not during the next POP3 session; that is, as soon as the user clicks Check Mail he/she'll get duplicates (or triplicates) of the incoming mail immediately without waiting for the next check. On 3/21/07, John Kielkopf john@webifi.com wrote: Things to check: 1) Thoroughly check network connectivity to the mail server from the problem clients. 2) Any possible file locking conflicts? Is there anything running on the server, possibly antivirus software, that might be locking the email in the server's mail directory? Thought of what could be happening here: a) Client retrieves all mail via pop3, marking them for deletion. b) Something on the mail server is still holding the files open for read (on demand AV scanner maybe?) c) Client quits the pop3 session, and the messages marked for deletion are now supposed to be deleted d) Because one of the email messages is locked for read (see: b, above), Xmail is unable to delete files, and gives up. e) Mail has not been deleted, and will be re-downloaded on next pop3 session. Davide would be able to comment on the possibility of 2d happening on Xmail. I have no idea if it could even happen, so I may be way off base here -- but short of a network connectivity issue, I can think of nothing else at the moment. Aaron Fransen wrote: For some folks they receive emails twice, for some it's three times, but not (that I've heard anyways) more than that. An example: Joe Smith comes back from holidays, and has 50 emails sitting there for him. He receives each and every one three times exactly, ending up with 150 new emails in his inbox. Jane Doe checks her email every morning, and most mornings ends up receiving two of every email. Note that it's not selective: If a user is going to have this happen, it's going to every single email they happen to be retrieving at the time. If it's not going to happen, it's not going to happen on ANY of the emails they are retrieving. Aaron On 3/21/07, Hal Dell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tracked
[xmail] Re: Receiving Mail multiple times
Aaron Fransen, What do the (duplicate) emails you/your users receive look like? Are all the headers and times exactly the same, or is there difference? Ivo - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:40 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Receiving Mail multiple times -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de John Kielkopf Envoy=E9 : jeudi 22 mars 2007 16:46 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Receiving Mail multiple times Looking at the headers, it appears Davide's list server received the=20 message once, and duplicated it four times. Why? I don't know. Here's the headers from all 4 duplicated messages: [Header from duplicate #1] Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([64.71.152.41]:36491) by smtp5.mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server] id S5D6862 for john@webifi.com from=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:33:03 -0500 [Header from duplicate #2] Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([64.71.152.41]:36519) by smtp5.mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server] id S5D68A9 for john@webifi.com from=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:41:14 -0500 [Header from duplicate #3] Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([64.71.152.41]:36528) by smtp5.mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server] id S5D68F4 for john@webifi.com from=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:49:49 -0500 [Header from duplicate #4] Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([64.71.152.41]:36548) by smtp5.mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server] id S5D693D for john@webifi.com from=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:58:56 -0500 True here, 4 send from x35.xmailserver.org And it is a 1.25 version (beta) : Received: from x35.xmailserver.org ([127.0.0.1]:36296) by x35.xmailserver.org with [XMail 1.25 ESMTP Server] Perhabs Davide is currnetly trying an new version (pre-03 ?) on it's = prod server ? Strange think is that only you received them fourth ... Francis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Receiving Mail multiple times
- Original Message - From: John Kielkopf john@webifi.com To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:41 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Receiving Mail multiple times Also, you sent this message the list 4 times. Did you intend this? I have received this message (I've had the issue both with local clients...) only once. Ivo Aaron Fransen wrote: I've had the issue both with local clients and remote clients running over a very expensive MPLS network, and in all the scanning I've done I can't see any issues with connectivity. File locking? Hm, it's possible, however there's no AV software running on the server (not live, just batched once in a while and not when these problems are happening). In terms of the sequence of events, the mail client I wrote (I can't speak to how Outlook is having the same problem, but with my program I can!) it fetches each email individually then sends the command to the server to delete it, then processes the next message. Maybe I should do it the other way? Process them all THEN go back and delete them? The duplicates happen right away too, not during the next POP3 session; that is, as soon as the user clicks Check Mail he/she'll get duplicates (or triplicates) of the incoming mail immediately without waiting for the next check. On 3/21/07, John Kielkopf john@webifi.com wrote: Things to check: 1) Thoroughly check network connectivity to the mail server from the problem clients. 2) Any possible file locking conflicts? Is there anything running on the server, possibly antivirus software, that might be locking the email in the server's mail directory? Thought of what could be happening here: a) Client retrieves all mail via pop3, marking them for deletion. b) Something on the mail server is still holding the files open for read (on demand AV scanner maybe?) c) Client quits the pop3 session, and the messages marked for deletion are now supposed to be deleted d) Because one of the email messages is locked for read (see: b, above), Xmail is unable to delete files, and gives up. e) Mail has not been deleted, and will be re-downloaded on next pop3 session. Davide would be able to comment on the possibility of 2d happening on Xmail. I have no idea if it could even happen, so I may be way off base here -- but short of a network connectivity issue, I can think of nothing else at the moment. Aaron Fransen wrote: For some folks they receive emails twice, for some it's three times, but not (that I've heard anyways) more than that. An example: Joe Smith comes back from holidays, and has 50 emails sitting there for him. He receives each and every one three times exactly, ending up with 150 new emails in his inbox. Jane Doe checks her email every morning, and most mornings ends up receiving two of every email. Note that it's not selective: If a user is going to have this happen, it's going to every single email they happen to be retrieving at the time. If it's not going to happen, it's not going to happen on ANY of the emails they are retrieving. Aaron On 3/21/07, Hal Dell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tracked this as much as I can and this is what I've found: At no time do the messages exist on the server twice...they are *only* received twice by the client. It does seem to happen to some people more than others, which leads me to believe it's a double-click the Send/Receive button issue, but when I test it the second request is rejected since the POP server only allows a single connection per individual. Are you sure they are *only* received the eMails twice? NOT more then that? Since, I'm coming into the middle of this eMail exchange in the -- I don't have all of the facts of your situation I had a problem like yours and was caused by the long time standing issues with mail clients on Windows due to the POP3 Tail issue - the symptoms that you state are nearly identical. David created a filter to not allow these messages in the queue. If you don't already have the filter installed I would highly recommend installing it. (Someone on this list may be able to tell the location to download the filter -- I don't see it listed on xmailserver.org -- it was mailed around at the time). POP3 Tail issue is caused by spam and other hacker attempts at DOS targeted at the eMail clients by intentionally corrupting the normal double CR LF at the bottom of the eMail message byte stream. An eMail that is corrupted in this way causes the email client to never complete downloading the eMailbox the mailbox is never cleared and then you get your Emails over and over again. This is a safety mechanism in the client to prevent accidental erasure of eMail messages in the case of a dropped IP connection. I'm not sure this will help you... Let us know... Thanks, Hal Dell Managing Partner ePodWorks.net,
[xmail] Re: Log file output
Wouldn't it be better to just always (sym)link the last smtp-{date}.log to
smtp.log (same for other files ofcourse)? So you don't have to choose...
Ivo
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From: Rob Arends [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: [xmail] Log file output
Davide,
I'm looking at methods of analysing/reporting the xmail logs better.
Really I'd like to get real-time into mysql.
One way is to use a named pipe and another is to just tail a file into
another process.
The tail method doesn't recover well from restarting the conversion
process,
unless it keeps track of records processed.
Both require a constant file name to be used (the tail method could check
for new files in the logs folder - I'd rather not)
But I was just wondering if it were possible to have an option on the
cmdline to rotate the log files (current action) or to NOT rotate the log
files.
with -logrotate=no, the files would be 'smtp.log' rather than
'smtp-{date}'
as the date would have no meaning.
(and smail, psync, etc)
In the case of a named pipe, do you see any problem with xmail outputting
to
an existing file that was a pipe?
Or in the case of a single log file being used, one might use the OS's
logrotate tools, do you see any issue with that?
Rob :-)
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[xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug?
- Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug? On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: THat seems ok. How is your AllowNullSender set? I already checked that: AllowNullSender 1 Can you check if this is really associated with Exim trying to send? AUTH=EFAIL:TYPE=LOGIN - Davide When using tail -f on XMail's SMTP log the message comes in right after I execute 'echo bla | sendmail ivo' on the system running exim. (note that it IS working with TLS disabled, so it isn't in the email address or message). The log entries also show the IP of the machine running Exim (192.168.1.2, the machines are connected using an OpenVPN tunnel...): UFO-Net.nlUFO-Net.nl192.168.1.2 2007-03-06 17:02:41 localhost.localdomain AUTH=EFAIL:TYPE=LOGIN 0 UFO-Net.nlUFO-Net.nl192.168.1.2 2007-03-06 17:02:42 localhost.localdomain AUTH=EFAIL:TYPE=LOGIN 0 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug?
- Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug? On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: - Original Message - On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: Hello Davide and other list members, I was trying to use my xmail server as a smarthost (relay) for one of my other servers, which is still using exim4. When exim4 tried to send a message using TLS (EnableSMTP-TLS=1 in xmail's server.tab), it ends up with an error message, in the XMail log files I get: AUTH=EFAIL:TYPE=LOGIN. In Exim4's log file I get: 2007-03-04 16:59:12 1HNt79-0006IG-I4 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM: SIZE=2485: host Core.LAN.UFO-Net.nl [192.168.0.51]: 501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments 2007-03-04 16:59:12 1HNt79-0006IG-I4 Frozen (delivery error message) When I disable TLS (EnableSMTP-TLS=0 in xmail's server.tab) everything is fine. The new exim4 server is allowed to use the XMail server as a relay.. Could this be a bug/missing festure in XMail, or is it exim's fault? Or is it just because I'm using XMail 1.24 and not 25?? Did you setup correctly the server.key and server.cert files? Yes, to verify I just re-created them using the steps described in the manual: $ openssl genrsa 2048 server.key $ openssl req -new -x509 -key server.key -out server.cert It still doesn't work.. Exim is trying to use an AUTH LOGIN to the XMail server?!? I'm not sure what it's trying to do. Exim says it has something to do with the MAIL FROM: SIZE=2485 command, maybe XMail doesn't recognise the SIZE=... part? Ive never seen that before... It's hard (impossible??) to find out what it is really doing, I tried tcpdump to monitor the connection but all I got were some strange characters... (DUH!). Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug?
- Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug? On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: I'm not sure what it's trying to do. Exim says it has something to do with the MAIL FROM: SIZE=2485 command, maybe XMail doesn't recognise the SIZE=... part? Ive never seen that before... It's hard (impossible??) to find out what it is really doing, I tried tcpdump to monitor the connection but all I got were some strange characters... (DUH!). The SIZE parameter after the MAIL_FROM is not a problem. If XMail says it failed an AUTH LOGIN, it means Exim issued an AUTH LOGIN, with invalid credentials. - Davide But why does it return a Syntax error to exim then? (501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments) Shouldn't it tell Exim about an auth failure? Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug?
- Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug? On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug? On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: I'm not sure what it's trying to do. Exim says it has something to do with the MAIL FROM: SIZE=2485 command, maybe XMail doesn't recognise the SIZE=... part? Ive never seen that before... It's hard (impossible??) to find out what it is really doing, I tried tcpdump to monitor the connection but all I got were some strange characters... (DUH!). The SIZE parameter after the MAIL_FROM is not a problem. If XMail says it failed an AUTH LOGIN, it means Exim issued an AUTH LOGIN, with invalid credentials. - Davide But why does it return a Syntax error to exim then? (501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments) Shouldn't it tell Exim about an auth failure? *That* error (empty mail from) is due to your AllowNullSender setting in your server.tab. Unless, the TLS negotiation failed. Can you run XMail in debug mode and see what it spits out on the console? - Davide Did I do something wrong or is this really all there is? :| Core:/var/lib/xmail# XMail -Ms /var/lib/xmail/ -Md -Pl -Sl -Fl -Cl -Ll -Sl SMAIL thread [00] started ---SOME MORE SMAIL THREADS [XMail 1.24 CTRL Server] started [XMail 1.24 CTRLS Server] started [XMail 1.24 POP3 Server] started [XMail 1.24 POP3S Server] started [XMail 1.24 ESMTP Server] started [XMail 1.24 ESMTPS Server] started [XMail 1.24 PSYNC Server] started [XMail 1.24 FINGER Server] started LMAIL thread [00] started LMAIL thread [01] started LMAIL thread [02] started EXIM TRYING TO SEND MAIL SMTP client connection from [192.168.1.2] SMTP client exit [192.168.1.2] SMTP client connection from [192.168.1.2] SMTP client exit [192.168.1.2] EXIM GAVE UP POP3 client connection from [192.168.3.4] POP3 client exit [192.168.3.4] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug?
- Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:43 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug? On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: Did I do something wrong or is this really all there is? :| Core:/var/lib/xmail# XMail -Ms /var/lib/xmail/ -Md -Pl -Sl -Fl -Cl -Ll -Sl SMAIL thread [00] started ---SOME MORE SMAIL THREADS [XMail 1.24 CTRL Server] started [XMail 1.24 CTRLS Server] started [XMail 1.24 POP3 Server] started [XMail 1.24 POP3S Server] started [XMail 1.24 ESMTP Server] started [XMail 1.24 ESMTPS Server] started [XMail 1.24 PSYNC Server] started [XMail 1.24 FINGER Server] started LMAIL thread [00] started LMAIL thread [01] started LMAIL thread [02] started EXIM TRYING TO SEND MAIL SMTP client connection from [192.168.1.2] SMTP client exit [192.168.1.2] SMTP client connection from [192.168.1.2] SMTP client exit [192.168.1.2] EXIM GAVE UP POP3 client connection from [192.168.3.4] POP3 client exit [192.168.3.4] THat seems ok. How is your AllowNullSender set? - Davide I already checked that: AllowNullSender 1 Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] SMTP-TLS bug?
Hello Davide and other list members, I was trying to use my xmail server as a smarthost (relay) for one of my other servers, which is still using exim4. When exim4 tried to send a message using TLS (EnableSMTP-TLS=1 in xmail's server.tab), it ends up with an error message, in the XMail log files I get: AUTH=EFAIL:TYPE=LOGIN. In Exim4's log file I get: 2007-03-04 16:59:12 1HNt79-0006IG-I4 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM: SIZE=2485: host Core.LAN.UFO-Net.nl [192.168.0.51]: 501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments 2007-03-04 16:59:12 1HNt79-0006IG-I4 Frozen (delivery error message) When I disable TLS (EnableSMTP-TLS=0 in xmail's server.tab) everything is fine. The new exim4 server is allowed to use the XMail server as a relay.. Could this be a bug/missing festure in XMail, or is it exim's fault? Or is it just because I'm using XMail 1.24 and not 25?? Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP-TLS bug?
- Original Message - On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: Hello Davide and other list members, I was trying to use my xmail server as a smarthost (relay) for one of my other servers, which is still using exim4. When exim4 tried to send a message using TLS (EnableSMTP-TLS=1 in xmail's server.tab), it ends up with an error message, in the XMail log files I get: AUTH=EFAIL:TYPE=LOGIN. In Exim4's log file I get: 2007-03-04 16:59:12 1HNt79-0006IG-I4 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM: SIZE=2485: host Core.LAN.UFO-Net.nl [192.168.0.51]: 501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments 2007-03-04 16:59:12 1HNt79-0006IG-I4 Frozen (delivery error message) When I disable TLS (EnableSMTP-TLS=0 in xmail's server.tab) everything is fine. The new exim4 server is allowed to use the XMail server as a relay.. Could this be a bug/missing festure in XMail, or is it exim's fault? Or is it just because I'm using XMail 1.24 and not 25?? Did you setup correctly the server.key and server.cert files? Yes, to verify I just re-created them using the steps described in the manual: $ openssl genrsa 2048 server.key $ openssl req -new -x509 -key server.key -out server.cert It still doesn't work.. Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe?
Hello Henri, Your mail arrived almost exactly 2 days late. The headers of the mail I received: Received: from psmtp10.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.26]:40559) by x35.xmailserver.org with [XMail 1.25 ESMTP Server] id S218B95 for xmail@xmailserver.org from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:18:13 -0500 Received: from eis (ip565e8273.direct-adsl.nl [86.94.130.115]) by psmtp10.wxs.nl (8.13.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l1RIhcu1012413 for xmail@xmailserver.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:43:38 +0100 It looks like the wxs server kept the mail for those 2 days, that could be because of a very long retry delay (and your glisting), but it shouldn't. I really have no idea why the wxs.nl mailserver would be in a GMT-5 hours timezone, while it is in the Netherlands. Did you have the same problem with incomming mail? If so, it has to be a problem on the wxs.nl mailservers. You could also try the planet.nl (or even hetnet.nl) mailrelay, which should also work for KPN custommers (and may have a better retry policy??). I use Tiscali Business internet for my mailserver, they block (almost) nothing. The same goes for xs4all, but maybe this is not a good reason to switch to another ISP. Ivo - Original Message - From: Henri van Riel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ivo Smits xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe? Hallo Ivo! Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 4:31:59 PM, you wrote: First, for incoming mail to You from the list, I think Davide can = confirm if xmailserver.org mail server have some waiting mail from the list for = you and what is the cause for this 'hold' if any. Second, doing an mx lookup for you domain vriel.nl the response is : vriel.nlMX preference =3D 15, mail exchanger =3D mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl vriel.nlMX preference =3D 10, mail exchanger =3D mail.vriel.nl mailrelay.direct-adsl.nlinternet address =3D 195.121.6.56 mailrelay.direct-adsl.nlinternet address =3D 195.121.6.12 mail.vriel.nl internet address =3D 86.94.130.115 Trying some manual connexions to 195.121.6.12 I see a changed host name = in the response like psmtp10.wxs.nl, psmtp15.wxs.nl, psmtp14.wxs.nl, ... = same thing at 195.121.6.56 AND some host names are on the two ips (if not = all ). So you ISP first use 'load-balancing' by IP on MX host name (not a = problem), then use some physical 'load-balancing' on logical IP. And you said that your first prefered mx don't ear on port 25 (to = implement 'Nolisting' technic ?) This is probably because his ISP is blocking incomming SMTP traffic (I'm using the same ISP...), Using your unavailable MX as primary, and the mail relay of the ISP is a technique to get the mail to your server inside the ISPs network. You're exactly right! I'm not using so-called 'nolisting' by choice, I simply *have to* set it up like this. Can this 'cascade' of technics could cause sender xmail to enter in a = sort of loop on retries in some circonstence ? First think to do is to return to a basic setup, at least 'reactivate' = your primary mx on port 25 to see if delays go away went your server = directly receive the mail. This will point out if the isp setup is generated = some trouble on failed primary mx connexions (volontary or not) related to xmail/glst sender setup. I think he can't listen on port 25 on that IP.. :( For Henri: you may want to try www.rollernet.us , they can forward incomming mail on their MXes to your own mailserver on another port to bypass the ISP block, for free ofcourse :) I *can* listing on port 25 (I am!) but only my ISP's mailrelay server can connect to it. How's that for monogamy! I took your advice Ivo and I've opened an account at rollernet. XMail is listening on two smtp ports now (using a PREROUTING table in iptables) and I've changed the MX records of one of my domains to redirect mail through rollernet. Let's see what happens... If this works I'll change all my accounts and I'll never have to use my ISP's mailrelay server (service?) again! And maybe I'll give GLST another try ;-) Thanks everyone for all your tips and advice! Appreciated! -- Henri. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe?
CLEMENT Francis wrote: -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Henri van Riel Envoy=E9 : lundi 26 f=E9vrier 2007 20:16 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe? Are you sure your server or connexion is not too busy ? I noticed the odd delay too. Funny thing is, your email (the one I am replying to now took 2 and a half minutes to be delivered to my mailbox but I am still waiting on the email you replied to, which I sent this morning 9 am! Obviously it was delivered to the rest of the list (since you replied to it) but it hasn't arrived here yet. So where is it? I'll know when I get it I suppose. Funny your email travels without delay while others seem to get stuck somewhere. Btw, AFAIK, the problem is only with this list. I'm subscribed to several other lists and I don't see any delays there. I have several other accounts (gmail, hotmail, work, etc) and there is never any substantial delay sending from or to those accounts but they all go through my ISP's mailrelay server. GLST is disabled now and I have XMAIL configured to use a maximum of 16 SMTP threads. That should be enough and the server and connection should be able to handle the mail traffic hands down. So what could be the problem? --=20 Henri. First, for incoming mail to You from the list, I think Davide can = confirm if xmailserver.org mail server have some waiting mail from the list for = you and what is the cause for this 'hold' if any. Second, doing an mx lookup for you domain vriel.nl the response is : vriel.nlMX preference =3D 15, mail exchanger =3D mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl vriel.nlMX preference =3D 10, mail exchanger =3D mail.vriel.nl mailrelay.direct-adsl.nlinternet address =3D 195.121.6.56 mailrelay.direct-adsl.nlinternet address =3D 195.121.6.12 mail.vriel.nl internet address =3D 86.94.130.115 Trying some manual connexions to 195.121.6.12 I see a changed host name = in the response like psmtp10.wxs.nl, psmtp15.wxs.nl, psmtp14.wxs.nl, ... = same thing at 195.121.6.56 AND some host names are on the two ips (if not = all ). So you ISP first use 'load-balancing' by IP on MX host name (not a = problem), then use some physical 'load-balancing' on logical IP. And you said that your first prefered mx don't ear on port 25 (to = implement 'Nolisting' technic ?) This is probably because his ISP is blocking incomming SMTP traffic (I'm using the same ISP...), Using your unavailable MX as primary, and the mail relay of the ISP is a technique to get the mail to your server inside the ISPs network. Can this 'cascade' of technics could cause sender xmail to enter in a = sort of loop on retries in some circonstence ? First think to do is to return to a basic setup, at least 'reactivate' = your primary mx on port 25 to see if delays go away went your server = directly receive the mail. This will point out if the isp setup is generated = some trouble on failed primary mx connexions (volontary or not) related to xmail/glst sender setup. I think he can't listen on port 25 on that IP.. :( For Henri: you may want to try www.rollernet.us , they can forward incomming mail on their MXes to your own mailserver on another port to bypass the ISP block, for free ofcourse :) Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe?
Hello Henri, It looks like you haven't got my mail too...? Anyway, you may want to try www.rollernet.us, they provide SMTP relay services for free. They can relay mails sent to their MXes to your mailserver on another port. You cannot combine this with greylisting however, but that won't work in your current configuration either, I think, since all mail is originating from your ISPs mailserver, which I think will be whitelisted, and if not whitelisted, it will redeliver the spammers mail to your server and bypass the graylisting. Ivo - Original Message - From: Henri van Riel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe? You must have some serious mis-configuration, since GLST works flawlessy in all my boxes. Hmmm... could be. My last email to this list took 48 hours to be delivered... Your reply took only 3 minutes though. My setup is a bit strange. My primary MX points to my ip but my isp blocks port 25. So mail can't be delivered directly. My isp forces me to use a mailrelay server that can access my mailserver over port 25. That's my secondary MX. In a way I'm using nolisting as described here http://www.joreybump.com/code/howto/nolisting.html. I'm sure you can remember the thread on this list with that subject. Maybe it's a bad idea to combine nolisting with graylisting...(?) Or maybe my isp's relayserver is just slow or badly configured...(?) -- Henri. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: config files discussion
Jeffrey Laramie wrote: On Tuesday 20 February 2007 12:32, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Dave Henderson wrote: Davide, Thanks for your reply. I can see your points. It was just a question I had as it seems alot of the daemons I use, use the apache style or a single config file method. The daemons also don't lock the files when reading them, they just read them upon startup (of course) and re-read them automatically within a certain period of time (to check for any changes made to them). I suppose both styles have their strengths and weaknesses. In either case, thanks for the reply. I'm not an heavy Apache user (actually, I use thttpd ;) but IIRC Apache is going in the exact opposite direction (splitting configs). In recent openSUSE releases httpd.conf is nothing more than comments and Include statements. All the actual configuration is divided up amongst the Included config files and directories. Most of the user configuration is in vhost containers that each have a vhostname.conf file in the vhosts.d directory. It takes a little getting used to but the design is actually very nice once you see how it works. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what my apache (and UnrealIRCd) config looks like too. But this will definately make updates from the CONTROL interface much harder, probably impossible for Davide. I agree with Francis Clement that it would be easier if most of the current command-line options were in the SERVER.tab or some other config file. Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Send 'delivery failed' report to 'From' address?
I have a website of a friend running on my server. People often register
with incorrect(?) e-mail adresses. I ('MAIL FROM' address) get the failure
report and the website ower ('From' address) gets nothing. The e-mail header
looks like this:
Received: from /spool/local
by UFO-Net.nl with [XMail 1.24 LMAIL Server]
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:26:00 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: example
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: PHP/5.2.0-8
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:25:59 +0100
Is it possible to deliver the report to the 'From' address? (I think
changing the MAIL FROM address is not an option, since at least gmail and
hotmail would reject my email).
Ivo
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[xmail] Mailbox full warning
Hello all, Regarding the mailbox full warning: How about a filter flag that only executes the filter if the users mailbox is full (or over a warning quota) and an argument to pass the current mailbox size? Would be an easy way to implement own mailbox-full notifications, or even cut off the message after 1kb. Ivo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: FW: Re: spam-address.tab size
A coffee shop in the Netherlands is probable something else than it is in your country... ;) As far as I know, coffeeshops usually don't serve coffee over here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffeehouse#Cannabis_coffee_shops) - Original Message - From: Norbert Doeberlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: [xmail] FW: Re: spam-address.tab size Yeah... It's Tuesday and I'll be heading to the coffee shop now. Good thing the liquor store is on the way... :) -Original Message- To: 'xmail@xmailserver.org' Subject: RE: [xmail] Re: spam-address.tab size I must be having a brain fart because I am not following the purpose behind using DNS for this. Spam-address.tab is loaded with email addresses in the format [EMAIL PROTECTED] How does DNS tie into this list? RBL's look for IP addresses, correct? It is Monday and I've only had one cup of coffee... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:50 To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: spam-address.tab size On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Norbert Doeberlein wrote: So how would you go about dumping a file to a local DNS? Is there a link to point me in the right direction? Well, bind has the ability (through a bind library API) to live-update the server by issuing commands. The easiest way is probably to have a script that periodically generates a new zone file, feeds it to bind and restart it. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
