[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
A network capture can confirm 100% if the client tryed to auth or not. Does the problem exist for any of your customers that auth or only some = of them ? In this last case, does they have the same av ? same version ? same = update version ? and can you ask them to try to temporarly disabling outgoing = smtp scan for some hours (remember to close mua, chance av settings, = restart mua) to see if that help ? I suggest this because I remember that sometimes some av updates had = bugs in they 'proxy' depending of the av version and/or after some updates. A = real example in mind : With Norton 2004 Av (I don't remember exact version of updates causing = the trouble), with outgoing smtp scan enabled in the av, trying to do smtp = auth worked only if you explicitly re-enter user login and password in 'smtp auth' dialog box (at least with Outlook/OutlookExpress and = Thunderbird). Av 'proxy' didn't auth at all if you used default option in Outlook/OE to = 'use same login and pass as for pop3'. To be sure to not have auth problems, now our setup procedure is to = allways re-enter the login/pass in smtp auth (set 'use these login/pass for = outgoing smtp auth') in any mua. I never had any more the problem. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=E9 : mardi 9 octobre 2007 23:05 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute Davide, asking users they tell me that the option to autenticate is = marked. How can I be 100% sure that the autentication arrived (or not) here? Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
OK Clement, thanks for your tips and suggetions! I will ask users to re-enter the login/pass in smtp auth. Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, 10 de October de 2007 04:09 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' A network capture can confirm 100% if the client tryed to auth or not. Does the problem exist for any of your customers that auth or only some = of them ? In this last case, does they have the same av ? same version ? same = update version ? and can you ask them to try to temporarly disabling outgoing = smtp scan for some hours (remember to close mua, chance av settings, = restart mua) to see if that help ? I suggest this because I remember that sometimes some av updates had = bugs in they 'proxy' depending of the av version and/or after some updates. A = real example in mind : With Norton 2004 Av (I don't remember exact version of updates causing = the trouble), with outgoing smtp scan enabled in the av, trying to do smtp = auth worked only if you explicitly re-enter user login and password in 'smtp auth' dialog box (at least with Outlook/OutlookExpress and = Thunderbird). Av 'proxy' didn't auth at all if you used default option in Outlook/OE to = 'use same login and pass as for pop3'. To be sure to not have auth problems, now our setup procedure is to = allways re-enter the login/pass in smtp auth (set 'use these login/pass for = outgoing smtp auth') in any mua. I never had any more the problem. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=E9 : mardi 9 octobre 2007 23:05 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute Davide, asking users they tell me that the option to autenticate is = marked. How can I be 100% sure that the autentication arrived (or not) here? Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
Mr. Clement, even with only zen.spamhaus.org:0 the problem persists. Authenticated users randomly gets '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, 8 de October de 2007 12:58 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Ok As I presume that if you disable completly the CusMapList var all is OK = for authenticated users (and spammers :( ), it seems that one of your 'custmaplist' servers give some strange value that cause xmail to = reject (a problem on the 'blacklist' server, and a mirror bug on xmail when = receiving a strange value from it ?). Can you try with only one server at a time (I recommend you to start = with only zen.spamhaus.org. because I use only this one and xmail run like a charm here with it) and verify if you continue to get 551 errors ? Note : I really don't recommand a 'big' list of blacklist servers. Only = a little number of them are reliable, have good blakclists, verify each = new potential entry before inserting it in the database, ... My CustMapList contains only one : spamhaus that seems to be the more accurate, the more stable, ..., and I have around 99% rejections of bad 'guys' using it combined with glst. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=E9 : lundi 8 octobre 2007 16:45 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute I=B4m sure it=B4s not because even with domains without any filter = users have=20 the same problem. Here I=B4m not using smtp proxy or assp. Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message -=20 From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, 8 de October de 2007 09:20 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=3DE9 : lundi 8 octobre 2007 14:17 =3DC0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute We are trying to use some blacklists (with CustMapsList) like the =3D following: CustMapsList=3D20 psbl.surriel.com.:0,zen.spamhaus.org.:0,cbl.abuseat.org.:0,new.spam.dns= =3D bl.s orbs.net.:0,dsn.rfc-ignorant.org.:0,list.dsbl.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0 But, for some reason, even using 0 authenticated users are receiving: '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Only after try, and try, and try (10 times or more) they could send the = =3D message. Why XMail isn=3DB4t giving authenticated users the chance to send? ps: XMail 1.25 Win32 Best Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br=3D20 - I never had problem with CustMapsList (with :0 parameter) and =3D authenticated users And I run 1.25 Win32 too ... Are you sure it's not a xmail smtp filter or a proxy before the xmail (assp?) that cause this problem ? Francis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Edinilson - ATINET wrote: We are trying to use some blacklists (with CustMapsList) like the following: CustMapsList psbl.surriel.com.:0,zen.spamhaus.org.:0,cbl.abuseat.org.:0,new.spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net.:0,dsn.rfc-ignorant.org.:0,list.dsbl.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0 But, for some reason, even using 0 authenticated users are receiving: '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Only after try, and try, and try (10 times or more) they could send the message. Why XMail isn´t giving authenticated users the chance to send? ps: XMail 1.25 Win32 One possibility, the mail reader does not actually authenticate. Very likely. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
Davide, asking users they tell me that the option to autenticate is marked. How can I be 100% sure that the autentication arrived (or not) here? Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Tuesday, 9 de October de 2007 15:19 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Edinilson - ATINET wrote: We are trying to use some blacklists (with CustMapsList) like the following: CustMapsList psbl.surriel.com.:0,zen.spamhaus.org.:0,cbl.abuseat.org.:0,new.spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net.:0,dsn.rfc-ignorant.org.:0,list.dsbl.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0 But, for some reason, even using 0 authenticated users are receiving: '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Only after try, and try, and try (10 times or more) they could send the message. Why XMail isn´t giving authenticated users the chance to send? ps: XMail 1.25 Win32 One possibility, the mail reader does not actually authenticate. Very likely. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
I´m sure it´s not because even with domains without any filter users have the same problem. Here I´m not using smtp proxy or assp. Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, 8 de October de 2007 09:20 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=E9 : lundi 8 octobre 2007 14:17 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute We are trying to use some blacklists (with CustMapsList) like the = following: CustMapsList=20 psbl.surriel.com.:0,zen.spamhaus.org.:0,cbl.abuseat.org.:0,new.spam.dns= bl.s orbs.net.:0,dsn.rfc-ignorant.org.:0,list.dsbl.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0 But, for some reason, even using 0 authenticated users are receiving: '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Only after try, and try, and try (10 times or more) they could send the = message. Why XMail isn=B4t giving authenticated users the chance to send? ps: XMail 1.25 Win32 Best Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br=20 - I never had problem with CustMapsList (with :0 parameter) and = authenticated users And I run 1.25 Win32 too ... Are you sure it's not a xmail smtp filter or a proxy before the xmail (assp?) that cause this problem ? Francis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
Ok As I presume that if you disable completly the CusMapList var all is OK = for authenticated users (and spammers :( ), it seems that one of your 'custmaplist' servers give some strange value that cause xmail to = reject (a problem on the 'blacklist' server, and a mirror bug on xmail when = receiving a strange value from it ?). Can you try with only one server at a time (I recommend you to start = with only zen.spamhaus.org. because I use only this one and xmail run like a charm here with it) and verify if you continue to get 551 errors ? Note : I really don't recommand a 'big' list of blacklist servers. Only = a little number of them are reliable, have good blakclists, verify each = new potential entry before inserting it in the database, ... My CustMapList contains only one : spamhaus that seems to be the more accurate, the more stable, ..., and I have around 99% rejections of bad 'guys' using it combined with glst. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=E9 : lundi 8 octobre 2007 16:45 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute I=B4m sure it=B4s not because even with domains without any filter = users have=20 the same problem. Here I=B4m not using smtp proxy or assp. Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message -=20 From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, 8 de October de 2007 09:20 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=3DE9 : lundi 8 octobre 2007 14:17 =3DC0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute We are trying to use some blacklists (with CustMapsList) like the =3D following: CustMapsList=3D20 psbl.surriel.com.:0,zen.spamhaus.org.:0,cbl.abuseat.org.:0,new.spam.dns= =3D bl.s orbs.net.:0,dsn.rfc-ignorant.org.:0,list.dsbl.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0 But, for some reason, even using 0 authenticated users are receiving: '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Only after try, and try, and try (10 times or more) they could send the = =3D message. Why XMail isn=3DB4t giving authenticated users the chance to send? ps: XMail 1.25 Win32 Best Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br=3D20 - I never had problem with CustMapsList (with :0 parameter) and =3D authenticated users And I run 1.25 Win32 too ... Are you sure it's not a xmail smtp filter or a proxy before the xmail (assp?) that cause this problem ? Francis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP'
OK, thanks very much for your help. I will try like you said and report. Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, 8 de October de 2007 12:58 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Ok As I presume that if you disable completly the CusMapList var all is OK = for authenticated users (and spammers :( ), it seems that one of your 'custmaplist' servers give some strange value that cause xmail to = reject (a problem on the 'blacklist' server, and a mirror bug on xmail when = receiving a strange value from it ?). Can you try with only one server at a time (I recommend you to start = with only zen.spamhaus.org. because I use only this one and xmail run like a charm here with it) and verify if you continue to get 551 errors ? Note : I really don't recommand a 'big' list of blacklist servers. Only = a little number of them are reliable, have good blakclists, verify each = new potential entry before inserting it in the database, ... My CustMapList contains only one : spamhaus that seems to be the more accurate, the more stable, ..., and I have around 99% rejections of bad 'guys' using it combined with glst. Francis -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=E9 : lundi 8 octobre 2007 16:45 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute I=B4m sure it=B4s not because even with domains without any filter = users have=20 the same problem. Here I=B4m not using smtp proxy or assp. Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message -=20 From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Monday, 8 de October de 2007 09:20 Subject: [xmail] Re: Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Edinilson - ATINET Envoy=3DE9 : lundi 8 octobre 2007 14:17 =3DC0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Too many '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Importance : Haute We are trying to use some blacklists (with CustMapsList) like the =3D following: CustMapsList=3D20 psbl.surriel.com.:0,zen.spamhaus.org.:0,cbl.abuseat.org.:0,new.spam.dns= =3D bl.s orbs.net.:0,dsn.rfc-ignorant.org.:0,list.dsbl.org.:0,bl.spamcop.net.:0 But, for some reason, even using 0 authenticated users are receiving: '551 Server access forbidden by your IP' Only after try, and try, and try (10 times or more) they could send the = =3D message. Why XMail isn=3DB4t giving authenticated users the chance to send? ps: XMail 1.25 Win32 Best Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br=3D20 - I never had problem with CustMapsList (with :0 parameter) and =3D authenticated users And I run 1.25 Win32 too ... Are you sure it's not a xmail smtp filter or a proxy before the xmail (assp?) that cause this problem ? Francis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
