[Xpert]Xv - how to draw on top of the overlay.

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Robertson

I need to display some text on top of an Xv image.
I guess I need to arrange for the text to be rendered into the destination
window, which would have been painted in the colour of the chroma key by Xv.
Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks,

Paul Robertson


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Re: [Xpert]Xv - how to draw on top of the overlay.

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Robertson

I think this solution which will work for me...
Place a borderless window on top of the overlay window.
Paint the window with the chroma key as the background, and draw the text in
the foreground.

Paul
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 I need to display some text on top of an Xv image.
 I guess I need to arrange for the text to be rendered into the destination
 window, which would have been painted in the colour of the chroma key by
Xv.
 Is there an easy way to do this?

 Thanks,

 Paul Robertson


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[Xpert]Re: DPMS, Screen blanking with Sun Creator3D (sun4u systems)

2001-12-11 Thread Ferris McCormick

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Antonio Prioglio wrote:

 On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Ferris McCormick wrote:
 
 [..]
  else to complain about.  The short answer is that with David Miller's
  hint, I have been able to put both screen blanking (xset s on s blank)
  and DPMS support (xset dpms p q r) into the sunffb_drv.o driver for
  the Creator3D, FFB2+/Vertical.  I'll keep playing with it, and if it
  seems to keep on working, I'll make it available to anyone who wants
  it.  I hesitate to suggest something like this as a change for the
  driver in general because this driver has to handle various Creator and
  Elite cards, and I am able to play with exactly one possible
  configuration, which is Creator3D, FFB2+/Vertical, GDM-20E20 monitor.
 
 I'd be getting a Creator 2D soon. I'll be happy to test it with a
 GDM-17E10.
 
 Saluti,
 Antonio Prioglio [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Thanks for the interest.  I'll send out a patch file in the next day
or so.  It modifies three source files:
ffb.h
ffb_driver.c
ffb_dac.c
and applies to the CVS version 4.1.99.1, of about November 1.  However
the three files involved are dated 2001/05/04, and I haven't seen anything
else posted which would indicate conflicting changes to the driver.

Regards,
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[Xpert]S3 Trio 3D+XFee86 4.1.0

2001-12-11 Thread Paulo Igor Nascimento

Hi guys,

I've installed Mandrake Linux 8.1 (default installation).
I'd like to use the XFree86 4.1.0 as its driver status
shows:

4.1.0:
Support (accelerated) for the ViRGE, ViRGE/VX, ViRGE/DX,
ViRGE/GX, ViRGE/GX2, ViRGE/MX, ViRGE/MX+, Trio3D and
Trio3D/2X is provided by
the s3virge driver.  Support (accelerated) for the
Savage3D, Savage3D/MV, Savage4, and Savage2000, is provided
by the savage driver.  Support for the other S3 chipsets
has not yet been ported.

Summary:
Only the ViRGE, Trio3D and Savage chipsets are supported in
4.1.0. All of the other chipsets are supported only in
3.3.6.

Well, I can't do that. Everytime, the XFree recognized as
default for this board the XFree86 3.3.6. When I
uninstall it and try to use by force 4.1.0, the system asks
for the insertion of the CD1 to install XFree86 3.3.6.

On Mandrake 8.1, I can't use xf86cfg either. It crashes,
with a segmentation fault message. Does it happen to
everyone? At RedHat 7.2, does the same thing occur?

I go to configure it manually, editing XFree86config. In
the section device I put s3virge. Nothing happens. In
fact I don't even what I must do.

And I continue using the 3.3.6, without anti-aliasing fonts
and icons, thus I could once make my system thought I have
an S3Virge video card. At this time, everything worked well
(I mean anti-aliasing and other features). I had a little
problem with sound and had to reinstall the system entire.
I couldn't make that again. I'd like. it seems for a moment
I could use the s3virge driver.

Could you help me?

Best regards,

PI

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[Xpert]Re: Radeon 8500

2001-12-11 Thread Noah Romer

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Martin Held wrote:

 Hello, I am in the market for buying a Radeon 8500, and read your post to
 the Xpert mailing list.  Have you found DRI to be working yet at all in
 CVS?  I like to be able to play my DVD's under linux, and I only use
 Windows for gaming.  The 8500 has become attractive to me since it
 apparently has dual head support, wondering if you know about either or
 have seen either work well, and how happy you have felt about the support
 for the 8500 (or lack thereof) thus far.  I'm trying to find out as much
 information before I even think of taking the plunge.

I'm not sure. I'm able to run XWindows using a checkout from cvs. However,
using the 2.4.7-10 kernel in RedHat 7.2, my AGP controller (I've got an
Athlon system w/ a VIA KT266A chipset on the motherboard) isn't
recognised and it appears to just be using PCI access to the Radeon 8500.
Thus, no DRM or DRI. I've also tried using the stock 2.4.16 kernel. With
this, the AGP controller is recognised but, when I start XWindows, the
monitor loses it's signal, and the only thing I can do is reboot the
machine. I've checked the log file at /var/log/XFree86.0, and it doesn't
show any problems.

So, w/ the 2.4.7-10 kernel, I still just get a black box where the video
would be (although it's no longer offset to the right of the window's
frame), and w/ the latest kernel's I can't run X at all.

I've pretty much given up on doing much w/ XWindows on my new system for
now. I've ended up leaving my old computer hooked up to my main monitor
and having XWindows apps on my new computer display, across my home
network, in the  XWindows session on my old computer. Althought it may
be an issue w/ the kernel's drm drivers for my motherboards chipset, at
this point, I wouldn't recommend either the Radeon 8500 or the 7500 for a
linux user who want's to do run 3D or video apps. I find myself wishing
I'd bought one of the newer Matrox boards (G450 or somesuch). They're not
as fast for 3D (which I can't use w/ the Radeon 8500 anyways), but they
blow the GeForce3 and Radeon 8500 aways when it comes to super crisp high
resolution non-3D work (the GeForce's fuzziness is the main reason I won't
buy one).

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Re: [Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread Olivier Fourdan

Gabiele,

Would you mind sending me your XF86Config-4 file off list ? I've tried forcing the 
chipset w/out success.

My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks in advance,

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:24:57 -0400
gabriele castellini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 I am happy to be able to say that finally I got a good screen
 configuration on my Toshiba 1800-S204 laptop
 with a trident cyberbladeXPAi1 chip.  It took me a  lot of attempts but
 this is what I did.
 I installed RedHat 7.0 that comes with XFree86-4.0.1 and it did not
 detect my card.
 Next I upgraded to XFree86-4.1.0 using the binaries downloaded from
 xfree86.org, still no improvement.
 I decided to go for the CVS. I downloaded, compiled and installed what
 came out to be the pre-release version XFree86-4.1.99  (or so). Still no
 luck with the configuration tool 'XFree86 -configure', although
 the chip now was correctly identified as a cyberbladeXPAi1.  So, I
 started playing around with some test
 configuration file and by forcing the chipset as a cyberbladeXPm/16 I
 got a perfect picture and everything
 seems to work fine, at least what I tried so far. The strange thing is
 that if I force the chipset as a
 cyberbladeXPAi1, which is what it should be, then it does not work.  I
 wonder if this is a bug or something
 is wrong with my setup.
 I hope that this is useful for those who are still struggling to get
 their video configuration with this chip.
 
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Re: [Xpert]where do keycodes originate?

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Fox

yesterday in a fit of optimism i wrote:

  , doing some research on the logitech itouch keyboard has
  led me to the conclusion that my keyboard generates the same scancodes
  that it does, though with different keysyms.  so i can probably make
  use the itouch xkb keyboard map pretty much directly.  once i figure
  out how to configure _that_.  :-)
  
  when i get home i'll turn off XKbdDisable, and work on getting an itouch
  config to work.  hopefully i'll then be able to report success.

alas, it was not to be.

i think i don't understand how to configure the xkb stuff.  i thought
that to tell the server i have an itouch compatible keyboard that all
i needed to do was this:

Section Keyboard
   ProtocolStandard
   XkbRulesxfree86
   XkbModelitouch
   XkbLayout   us
   XkbOptions  ctrl:swapcaps
EndSection

i still don't get any events from my internet keys though.  is there
something else i have to turn on or enable?  the other odd thing is that
the ctrl:swapcaps setting doesn't seem to work for me, making me think
i really have screwed something up.  bear in mind that i've been running
in XkbDisable mode for years until trying this -- it's not that i just
changed from pc101 to itouch.

is there a document somewhere that fully describes the relationship
between Xkb{Rules,Model,Layout,Etc}?

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RE: [Xpert]SiS630 DRM/DRI status

2001-12-11 Thread David Mansfield

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Andre Werthmann wrote:
 
 when I try use the kernel sisfb (kernel 2.4.17pre8), the kernel module
 gives me an oops.
 You sayed it works for you, have you used any special patches ?
 Where can I find Torsten's DRIVER_CTX_CTOR/DTOR fixes ?

They're in the kernel already.  That's the patch that Alan H. posted to
the group against the XF sources.  The XF sources and the linux sources 
aren't 100% in sync, and Torsten's patches are in the kernel, but not in 
XF yet.

I'm running stock linux-2.4.17-pre8 kernel, and Red Hat 7.2 XFree 4.1.  No 
patched anything.

 Here is the oops message from the kernel.
 
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: sisfb: framebuffer at 0xd000, mapped 
 to 0xce8a3000, size 32768k
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: sisfb: MMIO at 0xdfee, mapped to
 0xd08a4000, size 128k
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: sisfb: mode is 1024x768x16,
 linelength=2048
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
 dereference at virtual address 0066
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel:  printing eip:
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: ce89215e
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: *pde = 
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: Oops: 
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: CPU:0
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: EIP:0010:[ce89215e]Not tainted
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: eax: 0066   ebx: 0001
 ecx: 000c   edx: 0006
 Dec 11 15:56:00 localhost kernel: esi: 0001   edi: 
 ebp: 0016   esp: cb8d7e64
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel: Process insmod (pid: 1089,
 stackpage=cb8d7000)
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel: Stack: acd4 0011 000c
 acd4 0011 0a3d 00010003 004a
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel:00060001 0014 
 004a ce89d4a0 ce89185d  004a
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel:0016 0014 acc2
 00ef 0016 acb0 004a 
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel: Call Trace: [ce89d4a0] [ce89185d]
 [ce89d4a0] [ce8916e7] [ce89d4a0]
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel:[ce89021b] [ce89d4a0]
 [ce89d180] [ce890361] [c0116035] [ce88d060]
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel:[c0106ceb]
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel:
 Dec 11 15:56:01 localhost kernel: Code: 0f b6 04 07 50 0f b7 05 bc 10 8a 
 ce 6a 00 50 e8 de 0f 00 00
 

You need to run this oops through the ksymoops utility.  Make sure that 
the System.map that is used corresponds to the System.map of the kernel 
that oopsed.  It will decode the 'Call Trace' portion into functions and 
offsets.


David

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[Xpert]Xine and Savage S3 total lockup

2001-12-11 Thread Paolo Zeppegno



If I start xine on my desktop (an hp brio) it instantly freezes the
machine.

I attach my XFree86 log file. If someone need more detail, I will
provide them.

TIA

Paolo Zeppegno



This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.99.1 (Unofficial Build: 4.1.99.1-20011211) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: xx November 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: monkey.creatis.insa-lyon.fr
 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Dec 11 12:38:42 2001
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout XFree86 Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor COMPAQ S710
(**) |   |--Device My Video Card
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbLayout it
(**) XKB: layout: it
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to unix/:7100
(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.99.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.99.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8060, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0605 card 103c,1254 rev 01 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8605 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1106,0686 card 103c,1256 rev 22 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:04:1: chip 1106,0571 card 1106,0571 rev 10 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 10 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:4: chip 1106,3057 card 1106,3057 rev 30 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:5: chip 1106,3058 card 103c,1251 rev 20 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 1113,1211 card 103c,9207 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 5333,8a25 card 103c,1261 rev 02 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.99.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0c (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0xdc00 - 0xddff (0x200) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0xd000 - 0xd7ff (0x800) MX[B]
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:4:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) S3 ProSavage PM133 rev 2, Mem @ 0xdd00/19, 0xd000/27
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
[1] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1  0xffe0 - 0x (0x20) MX[B](B)
[1] -1  0x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1

Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 8500

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Lane

At 08:26 AM 12/11/01, Noah Romer wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Martin Held wrote:

  Hello, I am in the market for buying a Radeon 8500, and read your post to
  the Xpert mailing list.  Have you found DRI to be working yet at all in
  CVS?  I like to be able to play my DVD's under linux, and I only use
  Windows for gaming.  The 8500 has become attractive to me since it
  apparently has dual head support, wondering if you know about either or
  have seen either work well, and how happy you have felt about the support
  for the 8500 (or lack thereof) thus far.  I'm trying to find out as much
  information before I even think of taking the plunge.

I'm not sure. I'm able to run XWindows using a checkout from cvs. However,
using the 2.4.7-10 kernel in RedHat 7.2, my AGP controller (I've got an
Athlon system w/ a VIA KT266A chipset on the motherboard) isn't
recognised and it appears to just be using PCI access to the Radeon 8500.
Thus, no DRM or DRI. I've also tried using the stock 2.4.16 kernel. With
this, the AGP controller is recognised but, when I start XWindows, the
monitor loses it's signal, and the only thing I can do is reboot the
machine. I've checked the log file at /var/log/XFree86.0, and it doesn't
show any problems.

I had the same problems and it has to do with your XF86Config. Have you 
designated the right chipset?

I had the 8500 performing beautifully in 2D. Last time I checked out the 
CVS though 3D support was still not added.

I would give you my XF86Config setting but we have already ship the machine 
to the client.

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[Xpert](no subject)

2001-12-11 Thread Bhaswati Mookerjea

Hi,

How do I get the latest version of X (4.1.0-99?) from the CVS repository?

Mookerjea

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Re: [Xpert]where do keycodes originate?

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Fox

   i still don't get any events from my internet keys though.  is there
   something else i have to turn on or enable?  the other odd thing is that
   the ctrl:swapcaps setting doesn't seem to work for me, making me think
   i really have screwed something up.  bear in mind that i've been running
   in XkbDisable mode for years until trying this -- it's not that i just
   changed from pc101 to itouch.
  
  Did you try to run 'showkey' at the console, and press the internet keys
  on your keyboard? Did they then generate events there? Some USB keyboards

yes, sorry, i didn't re-include the background info i went through
yesterday.  the keys work fine at the console.

but something else occurred to me:  does version 4.0.1a, which is what
i'm running, have the necessary support for internet keys?  when did
the code snippet that david dawes quoted yesterday get added, relative
to the release train?

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Re: [Xpert]where do keycodes originate?

2001-12-11 Thread David Dawes

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:05:28AM -0500, Paul Fox wrote:
yesterday in a fit of optimism i wrote:

  , doing some research on the logitech itouch keyboard has
  led me to the conclusion that my keyboard generates the same scancodes
  that it does, though with different keysyms.  so i can probably make
  use the itouch xkb keyboard map pretty much directly.  once i figure
  out how to configure _that_.  :-)
  
  when i get home i'll turn off XKbdDisable, and work on getting an itouch
  config to work.  hopefully i'll then be able to report success.

alas, it was not to be.

i think i don't understand how to configure the xkb stuff.  i thought
that to tell the server i have an itouch compatible keyboard that all
i needed to do was this:

Section Keyboard
   ProtocolStandard
   XkbRulesxfree86
   XkbModelitouch
   XkbLayout   us
   XkbOptions  ctrl:swapcaps
EndSection

i still don't get any events from my internet keys though.  is there
something else i have to turn on or enable?  the other odd thing is that
the ctrl:swapcaps setting doesn't seem to work for me, making me think
i really have screwed something up.  bear in mind that i've been running
in XkbDisable mode for years until trying this -- it's not that i just
changed from pc101 to itouch.

Are you seeing keypress/release events with xev -- even just the
keycodes, with no keysyms?  If not, then it's not going to work by
playing around at the xkb level.  It means that the key events
aren't getting though, either because they're not being recognised
by the XFree86 keyboard handling code, or because they're not
getting through to it at all.

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Re: [Xpert]where do keycodes originate?

2001-12-11 Thread David Dawes

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:32:06AM -0500, Paul Fox wrote:
   i still don't get any events from my internet keys though.  is there
   something else i have to turn on or enable?  the other odd thing is that
   the ctrl:swapcaps setting doesn't seem to work for me, making me think
   i really have screwed something up.  bear in mind that i've been running
   in XkbDisable mode for years until trying this -- it's not that i just
   changed from pc101 to itouch.
  
  Did you try to run 'showkey' at the console, and press the internet keys
  on your keyboard? Did they then generate events there? Some USB keyboards

yes, sorry, i didn't re-include the background info i went through
yesterday.  the keys work fine at the console.

but something else occurred to me:  does version 4.0.1a, which is what
i'm running, have the necessary support for internet keys?  when did
the code snippet that david dawes quoted yesterday get added, relative
to the release train?

It should be there in 4.0.1.  In that version you should even get
a message in your X server log file about an Unreported Prefix0 scancode
if the key events are getting through.

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Re: [Xpert]DRI fails with CVS X

2001-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 07:45, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
 I built X from CVS; and got it to install. however, DRI doesn't work. :(
 glxinfo says it's using indirect rendering, and games are dead slow.
 
 this was a config that had DRI working before; so I know it's possible.
 I installed X to /usr/local/X11R6; and in my .xserverrc pointed to
 /etc/X11/X, which was symlinked to /usr/local/X11R6/bin/XFree86.
 I edited the XF86Config-4 file to use /usr/local/X11R6/lib/ for fonts and
 modules. the DRI modules are indeed in /usr/local/X11R6/lib/modules/dri.
 however, if i run an strace on glxgears and capture the output, it's going
 to /usr/X11R6/lib for its libraries, rather than /usr/local/X11R6/lib.
 
 could this be the problem?

It likely is.

 if so, how do I tell it where the proper libraries are?

Set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/X11R6/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH or add it to
/etc/ld.so.conf (probably before /usr/X11R6/lib) and run ldconfig.


 is there a way to tell what X modules are currently loaded (not kernel
 modules)? (other than capturing stderr).
 
 attached is the output of 'startx 2cvs-x.log'

The server writes a detailed log to /var/log/XFree86.*.log.

But this problem is unlikely to be related to X server modules.


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Re: [Xpert]where do keycodes originate?

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Fox

  but something else occurred to me:  does version 4.0.1a, which is what
  i'm running, have the necessary support for internet keys?  when did
  the code snippet that david dawes quoted yesterday get added, relative
  to the release train?
  
  It should be there in 4.0.1.  In that version you should even get
  a message in your X server log file about an Unreported Prefix0 scancode
  if the key events are getting through.
  

Aargh!  :-/

when i found the server log (in xdm-errors) to check on the above,
i discovered that i'm actually running 3.3.6, which predates the internet
keys change.

it seems that of the following servers in my /usr/X11R6/bin:

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1784092 Aug 20  2000 XF86_8514
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  2073532 Aug 20  2000 XF86_FBDev
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1928124 Aug 20  2000 XF86_Mach32
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  2061660 Aug 20  2000 XF86_Mach64
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  2090204 Aug 20  2000 XF86_Mono
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  2480380 Aug 20  2000 XF86_S3
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  2201852 Aug 20  2000 XF86_S3V
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  3350364 Aug 20  2000 XF86_SVGA
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  2029884 Aug 20  2000 XF86_VGA16
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1847900 Aug 20  2000 XF86_W32
-rwx--x--x1 root root  1538632 Aug 30  2000 XFree86

only XFree86 is version 4.0.1a.  the others are invoked by full path
via xdm/Xservers, but it's XFree86 that's symlinked to from /etc/X11/X,
and that's the path i was invoking to check the server version.  :-/

i don't remember how this mess happened, but i'm sure that it's my fault.

sorry for the noise.  :-(

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[Xpert]With Sis 630 Mandrake 8.1 don't install XFree 4.1.

2001-12-11 Thread Fabio Dell'Aria



I have a notebook with SIS 630 video 
card.
When i try to install Mandrake 8.X or RedHat 7.X in 
EXPERT MODE, 
its install in my PC XFree 3.3.6, no XFree 4.1. 


Why ?

How i can install Mandrake or RedHat so who its 
install in my PC XFree 4.1 ?
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Re: [Xpert](no subject)

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Bhaswati Mookerjea wrote:

 Hi,
 
 How do I get the latest version of X (4.1.0-99?) from the CVS repository?
 

http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/

   Don't use a branch tag and you get latest CVS.


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Re: [Xpert]DRI fails with CVS X

2001-12-11 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom

  if so, how do I tell it where the proper libraries are?
 
 Set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/X11R6/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH or add it to
 /etc/ld.so.conf (probably before /usr/X11R6/lib) and run ldconfig.

thanks. I figured it was something like that. still new to library
path configurations. :)

  attached is the output of 'startx 2cvs-x.log'
 
 The server writes a detailed log to /var/log/XFree86.*.log.

I do the 'startx 2x.log' thing partly out of habit (was doing it
before X 4 came out); and partly becuase it captures slightly different data
than the /var/log/XFree86.*.log; and partly because it's a private copy of
the log file, so if I test another user's X configuration, it doesn't blow
it away. 
just personal preference. :)

thanks!
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[Xpert](no subject)

2001-12-11 Thread Santiago Perez Garcia



Hi:
I have a Linux RedHat 7.1 with Xfree 4.03 and a trident 
9680 vga card with 1mb ram and I am using it at 8000x600@60hz. The mouse pointer 
looks allright and it points to to the right place (according to the mouse 
things are where they have to be and if I point the lower right part of the 
screen the kde menu appears but in another place and very big) but the rest of 
the images (desktop,icons,etc) are very big and of course I can only see part of 
the desktop. Acceleration is disabled and I have tried every option of the 
trident driver without success. Does anybody know how to fix this?

Thanks
Santiago


Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 8500

2001-12-11 Thread Mike Mestnik


--- Noah Romer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Martin Held wrote:
 
  Hello, I am in the market for buying a Radeon 8500, and read your post to
  the Xpert mailing list.  Have you found DRI to be working yet at all in
  CVS?  I like to be able to play my DVD's under linux, and I only use
  Windows for gaming.  The 8500 has become attractive to me since it
  apparently has dual head support, wondering if you know about either or
  have seen either work well, and how happy you have felt about the support
  for the 8500 (or lack thereof) thus far.  I'm trying to find out as much
  information before I even think of taking the plunge.
 
 I'm not sure. I'm able to run XWindows using a checkout from cvs. However,
 using the 2.4.7-10 kernel in RedHat 7.2, my AGP controller (I've got an
 Athlon system w/ a VIA KT266A chipset on the motherboard) isn't
 recognised and it appears to just be using PCI access to the Radeon 8500.
 Thus, no DRM or DRI. I've also tried using the stock 2.4.16 kernel. With
 this, the AGP controller is recognised but, when I start XWindows, the
 monitor loses it's signal, and the only thing I can do is reboot the
 machine. I've checked the log file at /var/log/XFree86.0, and it doesn't
 show any problems.
 
 So, w/ the 2.4.7-10 kernel, I still just get a black box where the video
 would be (although it's no longer offset to the right of the window's
 frame), and w/ the latest kernel's I can't run X at all.
 
 I've pretty much given up on doing much w/ XWindows on my new system for
 now. I've ended up leaving my old computer hooked up to my main monitor
 and having XWindows apps on my new computer display, across my home
 network, in the  XWindows session on my old computer. Althought it may
 be an issue w/ the kernel's drm drivers for my motherboards chipset, at
 this point, I wouldn't recommend either the Radeon 8500 or the 7500 for a
 linux user who want's to do run 3D or video apps. I find myself wishing
 I'd bought one of the newer Matrox boards (G450 or somesuch). They're not
 as fast for 3D (which I can't use w/ the Radeon 8500 anyways), but they
 blow the GeForce3 and Radeon 8500 aways when it comes to super crisp high
 resolution non-3D work (the GeForce's fuzziness is the main reason I won't
 buy one).
Nvidia/GeForce drivers have problems...
http://linuxgames.com/articles/morenvidiatips-20010930.txt
best describes why I HATE my GeForce.
 
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I have a new ATI Radeon 8500, and it's not being detected by XFree86.
I had it shipped next day air direct from ATI so It may not even be a week old.

I'm running Debian (Woody) and am having trouble recompiling XFree86 in the
Debian manner.  I also was trying to get the cvs working, it seems I have to
download all the *,v and other cvs files I don't want. Dose any one know how I
should get XFree86 www.XFree86.org was most unhelpfull. Is FTP going to have
what I need?

If there is any thing I can do to help letme know.

XFree86 has found a valid card configuration.
Unfortunately the appropriate data has not been added to xf86PciInfo.h.
Please forward 'scanpci -v' output to XFree86 support team.
(I hope by XFree86 support team thay mean this list!)

pci bus 0x1 cardnum 0x05 function 0x: vendor 0x1002 device 0x514c
 ATI  Device unknown
 CardVendor 0x1002 card 0x013a (ATI, Card unknown)
  STATUS0x02b0  COMMAND 0x0187
  CLASS 0x03 0x00 0x00  REVISION 0x00
  BIST  0x00  HEADER 0x00  LATENCY 0x20  CACHE 0x08
  BASE0 0xa008  addr 0xa000  MEM PREFETCHABLE
  BASE1 0xb801  addr 0xb800  I/O
  BASE2 0xefef  addr 0xefef  MEM
  BASEROM   0xefec  addr 0xefec  not-decode-enabled
  MAX_LAT   0x00  MIN_GNT 0x08  INT_PIN 0x01  INT_LINE 0x0b


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Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 8500

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Lane



I have a new ATI Radeon 8500, and it's not being detected by XFree86.
I had it shipped next day air direct from ATI so It may not even be a 
week old.

I'm running Debian (Woody) and am having trouble recompiling XFree86 in the
Debian manner.  I also was trying to get the cvs working, it seems I have to
download all the *,v and other cvs files I don't want. Dose any one know 
how I
should get XFree86 www.XFree86.org was most unhelpfull. Is FTP going to have
what I need?

You need to checkout xc from CVS.

You can get 2D working with standard 4.1 by defining the chipset as ATI 
RADEON QE AGP and setting AGPMode to 1 in your XF86Config-4 if I remember 
correctly. It works but it will crash if you run any OpenGL.

I had no problem with the CVS just downloading from xfree86.org with

cvs checkout xc.

Then I went into the directory and ran:

make World
make Install

Then I placed a bogus chipset name in XF86Config-4 so it would give me the 
list of chipset in the error log.

I chose the 8500 chipset name and added it to my XF86Config-4 file. I also 
removed the nodri option and added the AGPMode option to set AGP to 4.

There was no 3D support for the Radeon 8500 the last time I did this but 
the 2D support is the fastest I have ever seen.

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon 8500

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Mike Mestnik wrote:

 
 --- Noah Romer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Martin Held wrote:
  
   Hello, I am in the market for buying a Radeon 8500, and read your post to
   the Xpert mailing list.  Have you found DRI to be working yet at all in
   CVS?  I like to be able to play my DVD's under linux, and I only use
   Windows for gaming.  The 8500 has become attractive to me since it
   apparently has dual head support, wondering if you know about either or
   have seen either work well, and how happy you have felt about the support
   for the 8500 (or lack thereof) thus far.  I'm trying to find out as much
   information before I even think of taking the plunge.
  
  I'm not sure. I'm able to run XWindows using a checkout from cvs. However,
  using the 2.4.7-10 kernel in RedHat 7.2, my AGP controller (I've got an
  Athlon system w/ a VIA KT266A chipset on the motherboard) isn't
  recognised and it appears to just be using PCI access to the Radeon 8500.
  Thus, no DRM or DRI. I've also tried using the stock 2.4.16 kernel. With
  this, the AGP controller is recognised but, when I start XWindows, the
  monitor loses it's signal, and the only thing I can do is reboot the
  machine. I've checked the log file at /var/log/XFree86.0, and it doesn't
  show any problems.
  
  So, w/ the 2.4.7-10 kernel, I still just get a black box where the video
  would be (although it's no longer offset to the right of the window's
  frame), and w/ the latest kernel's I can't run X at all.
  
  I've pretty much given up on doing much w/ XWindows on my new system for
  now. I've ended up leaving my old computer hooked up to my main monitor
  and having XWindows apps on my new computer display, across my home
  network, in the  XWindows session on my old computer. Althought it may
  be an issue w/ the kernel's drm drivers for my motherboards chipset, at
  this point, I wouldn't recommend either the Radeon 8500 or the 7500 for a
  linux user who want's to do run 3D or video apps. I find myself wishing
  I'd bought one of the newer Matrox boards (G450 or somesuch). They're not
  as fast for 3D (which I can't use w/ the Radeon 8500 anyways), but they
  blow the GeForce3 and Radeon 8500 aways when it comes to super crisp high
  resolution non-3D work (the GeForce's fuzziness is the main reason I won't
  buy one).
 Nvidia/GeForce drivers have problems...
 http://linuxgames.com/articles/morenvidiatips-20010930.txt
 best describes why I HATE my GeForce.

   Bernhard has AGP problems.   His Fix is not needed 
and merely breaks 2D/3D synchronization.   There are plenty
people running Intel AGP chips which have no problems at all.


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Re: [Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread Alan Hourihane

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 09:06:21PM +0100, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
 Alan,
 
 Sorry, but although the card is correctly detected, the driver doesn't 
 work well for me (CyberBladeXPAi1, Toshiba S1800-814)
 
 In 16 and 24bpp the display shows a lot of noise, especially when moving 
 windows/cursor. I've tried to change the horz/vert display settings 
 (LCD) w/out success.
 
Try a 60Hz mode.

 The driver is still a lot slower than Vesa and FBdev on this laptop 
 (PIII 1.1GHz)
 
Turn on ShadowFB and you should get the same speed as Vesa and FBDev.

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[Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Jonathan Walther

The question, then the context:

I have a bitmap, A.  I set this bitmask as the clip mask
in my GC.  If I modify A, do I have to re-call XSetClipMask()
for the modifications to take effect?

I have a square area, lets say 400x400.  I frequently re-paint the
whole area with different sections of a larger drawable.  However
I have another little image that I draw on top, 30x30 in size.
When I draw this little box, I have no problem doing the masking such
that the little arrow symbol is drawn on top of the larger area without
disturbing the image underneath.  But the location of the little box
also frequently changes, so making a static clipmask the size of the
400x400 area isn't the way.  I'd like to be able to repaint the whole
400x400 area, without disturbing the little arrow symbol.  I would like
to do this with one XCopyArea() operation, because when I use more than
one XCopyArea to copy the area, the artifacts are very visible.

What is the method that involves the least amount of X calls, or at
least is the fastest possible, method to repaint my window?

Creating a subwindow and using those cool alpha channels that seem to be
included in the Render extension might be the way, but I have no idea
how to begin using it.

Keith, even if you aren't going to release your hacked version of twm,
can you tell the eager masses what the trick was to make those root-menu
windows in your twm screenshot be translucent?

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Re: [Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread Olivier Fourdan

Alan,

 Try a 60Hz mode.


I'll try that in a few minutes...

 Turn on ShadowFB and you should get the same speed as Vesa and FBDev.


Humm, nope, ShadowFB is on in my XF86Config-4 :

Section Device
 Identifier  Trident
 Driver  trident
 BoardName   cyberbladeXPAi1
 BusID   PCI:1:0:0
 Option  ShadowFB
EndSection

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[Xpert]XFree 4.1.99, Radeon Mobility DGA

2001-12-11 Thread Stefan Oettl

Hi,

I've got a problem getting DGA to work properly with a Radeon mobility LY 
(AGP). The application I try to use with DGA is VMWare 3.0. When switching to 
fullscreen mode in VMWare the display gets completely scambled. (you can see 
mouse moves by appearing horiz. lines, but that's all you can imagine). The 
VMWare log claims that DGA2 and DGA acceleration is supported, reads the 
XvidModes and does a mode switch, that's it.
I'm using XFree86 4.1.99 (CVS from Nov 23) and binary ATI modules from the 
GATOS project (Dec 5). Also tried the stock Xfree modules before, same result.

Has anyone seen such a behaviour ?
I'd also like to check if it's really XFree related and not VMWare, so any 
pointers to other DGA (test) apps (which also do a mode switch perhaps) would 
be great.
See the XFree86.0.log below.

Thanks,
Stefan

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XFree86 Version 4.1.99.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: xx November 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.10-4GB i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Dec 11 19:13:33 2001
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout Layout[all]
(**) |--Screen Screen[0] (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor[0]
(**) |   |--Device Device[0]
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard[0]
(**) Option Protocol Standard
(**) Option XkbKeycodes xfree86
(**) XKB: keycodes: xfree86
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) XKB: model: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout de
(**) XKB: layout: de
(**) Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys
(**) XKB: variant: nodeadkeys
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device Mouse[1]
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1 does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1 does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(**) Option AllowMouseOpenFail
(**) Option Xinerama off
(++) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 

Re: [Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Jonathan Walther wrote:

 The question, then the context:
 
 I have a bitmap, A.  I set this bitmask as the clip mask
 in my GC.  If I modify A, do I have to re-call XSetClipMask()
 for the modifications to take effect?

Yes.

 
 I have a square area, lets say 400x400.  I frequently re-paint the
 whole area with different sections of a larger drawable.  However
 I have another little image that I draw on top, 30x30 in size.
 When I draw this little box, I have no problem doing the masking such
 that the little arrow symbol is drawn on top of the larger area without
 disturbing the image underneath.  But the location of the little box
 also frequently changes, so making a static clipmask the size of the
 400x400 area isn't the way.  I'd like to be able to repaint the whole
 400x400 area, without disturbing the little arrow symbol.  I would like
 to do this with one XCopyArea() operation, because when I use more than
 one XCopyArea to copy the area, the artifacts are very visible.
 
 What is the method that involves the least amount of X calls, or at
 least is the fastest possible, method to repaint my window?

   Changing the GC clip mask is a very slow operation and using
GC clip masks should be avoided in performance paths.

  Render everything into a pixmap, set it as the window background
and call XClearArea on the window areas you need updated.
Note that if you've changed the pixmap contents you need to
reset it as the window background because the protocol doesn't
guarantee that the new contents will go into effect without that.
Note that the pixmap doesn't get damaged when the window does
and the window will automatically get repainted from the background
pixmap on exposures so you don't need to handle expose events anymore.

  If the arrow is monochrome, the fastest way to render it is with
a stippled fill using a monochrome bitmap with the shape of the
arrow in it.

Copy large drawable to 400x400 pixmap (single rectangle)
render arrow (single stippled rectangle, note that you'll have
   to use XSetTSOrigin to have it match the arrow location since
   GC stipples are drawable aligned).
set pixmap as window background
XClearArea

   Do nothing at all for exposures.


Mark.

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Re: [Xpert]XFree 4.1.99, Radeon Mobility DGA

2001-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 22:06, Stefan Oettl wrote:

 I've got a problem getting DGA to work properly with a Radeon mobility LY 
 (AGP). The application I try to use with DGA is VMWare 3.0. When switching to 
 fullscreen mode in VMWare the display gets completely scambled. (you can see 
 mouse moves by appearing horiz. lines, but that's all you can imagine). The 
 VMWare log claims that DGA2 and DGA acceleration is supported, reads the 
 XvidModes and does a mode switch, that's it.
 I'm using XFree86 4.1.99 (CVS from Nov 23) and binary ATI modules from the 
 GATOS project (Dec 5). Also tried the stock Xfree modules before, same result.

DGA 2.0 support in the radeon driver has apparently been fixed in
XFree86 CVS on November 26th. (you could have found out by looking at
the cvs-commit mailing list archives ;)


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast
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Re: [Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread Alan Hourihane

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 09:49:37PM +0100, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
 Try a 60Hz mode.
 
 I'll try that in a few minutes...
 
 Turn on ShadowFB and you should get the same speed as Vesa and FBDev.
 
 Humm, nope, ShadowFB is on in my XF86Config-4 :
 
 Section Device
 Identifier  Trident
 Driver  trident
 BoardName   cyberbladeXPAi1
 BusID   PCI:1:0:0
 Option  ShadowFB
 EndSection
 
Mmm, 

Looks as though someone tried to add support for miext/shadow, so I've
put it back to the way it used to be. You might want to update your CVS
again. It should be the same performance now.

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Re: [Xpert]S3 Trio 3D+XFee86 4.1.0

2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Brosius

Paulo Igor Nascimento wrote:
 
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I've installed Mandrake Linux 8.1 (default installation).
 I'd like to use the XFree86 4.1.0 as its driver status
 shows:
 
 4.1.0:
 Support (accelerated) for the ViRGE, ViRGE/VX, ViRGE/DX,
 ViRGE/GX, ViRGE/GX2, ViRGE/MX, ViRGE/MX+, Trio3D and
 Trio3D/2X is provided by
 the s3virge driver.  Support (accelerated) for the
 Savage3D, Savage3D/MV, Savage4, and Savage2000, is provided
 by the savage driver.  Support for the other S3 chipsets
 has not yet been ported.
 
 Summary:
 Only the ViRGE, Trio3D and Savage chipsets are supported in
 4.1.0. All of the other chipsets are supported only in
 3.3.6.
 
 Well, I can't do that. Everytime, the XFree recognized as
 default for this board the XFree86 3.3.6. When I
 uninstall it and try to use by force 4.1.0, the system asks
 for the insertion of the CD1 to install XFree86 3.3.6.

XFree86 doesn't do this itself.  This sounds like the Mandrake installer
is not allowing installation of 4.1.0.  Is there a way in mandrake to
install 4.1.0 manually?  Then if you have to you can manually configure
XFree86.  (I haven't used Mandrake.)

After a manual install, try 'X -configure' as root and let us know what
you get.  (You should get a sample config file.)

 
 On Mandrake 8.1, I can't use xf86cfg either. It crashes,
 with a segmentation fault message. Does it happen to
 everyone? At RedHat 7.2, does the same thing occur?
 
 I go to configure it manually, editing XFree86config. In
 the section device I put s3virge. Nothing happens. In
 fact I don't even what I must do.
 
 And I continue using the 3.3.6, without anti-aliasing fonts
 and icons, thus I could once make my system thought I have
 an S3Virge video card. At this time, everything worked well
 (I mean anti-aliasing and other features). I had a little
 problem with sound and had to reinstall the system entire.
 I couldn't make that again. I'd like. it seems for a moment
 I could use the s3virge driver.
 
 Could you help me?
 
 Best regards,
 
 PI
 

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Re: [Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Jonathan Walther

Thank you Mark.  Your description was just what the doctor ordered.  I
can get rid of clip masks entirely now, and a bunch of other
extraneous operations.

Thanks to your description, I don't need to know the following
information now, but its been bugging the heck out of me:
how did Keith Packard make his twn menu-windows translucent?
Are there docs somewhere that should make this obvious to me, which I
haven't found yet?  On the Render list archives I saw someone saying
explicitly this stuff ISN'T documented anywhere...

Jonathan

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:14:24PM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
   Changing the GC clip mask is a very slow operation and using
GC clip masks should be avoided in performance paths.

  Render everything into a pixmap, set it as the window background
and call XClearArea on the window areas you need updated.
Note that if you've changed the pixmap contents you need to
reset it as the window background because the protocol doesn't
guarantee that the new contents will go into effect without that.
Note that the pixmap doesn't get damaged when the window does
and the window will automatically get repainted from the background
pixmap on exposures so you don't need to handle expose events anymore.

  If the arrow is monochrome, the fastest way to render it is with
a stippled fill using a monochrome bitmap with the shape of the
arrow in it.

Copy large drawable to 400x400 pixmap (single rectangle)
render arrow (single stippled rectangle, note that you'll have
   to use XSetTSOrigin to have it match the arrow location since
   GC stipples are drawable aligned).
set pixmap as window background
XClearArea

   Do nothing at all for exposures.



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[Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread Gabriele



Hi there,

I have a Toshiba Satellite 1800-S204 with a Trident 
cyberbladeXPAi1 video chip and of course RedHat 7.0 did not recognize it. I 
upgraded to XFree-4.1.0 but no improvement. I recently downloaded and installed 
the latest 
CVS of December 4 and although everything seemed to 
be 
ok, I still don't get the card to work. It is 
recognized, but I 
get an extremely poor configuration, absolutely 
anusable. 
I wonder why it doesn't work since I read that this 
chip was 
included in the soon to be released XFree-4.2.0. 


Does anybody know of any possible fix? If needed I 
can 
provide the log-file.

One more things, after installing the CVS, which is 
basically 
4.1.99.1 my startx quit working. 
It now gives the error message:
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: 
LibXmuu.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory.

What went wrong in the installation?

I would greatly appreciate if somebody could help 
me.

Thanks

Gabriele



[Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread Gabriele



Hi 

This is the configuration file that worked for 
me.

Gabriele

P. S. I did some cut and paste in order to include 
the XF86Config file below. Since I am not familiar with microsoft oriented 
programs I don't know if this includes some extra control characters that will 
need to be removed manually.

-

# Module loading section 
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection
Section "Module"
# Load "v4l" # Video4Linux 
# Load "pex5" # PHIGS for X 3D environment (obsolete) 
# Load "record" # X event recorder 
# Load "xie" # X Image Extension (obsolete) 
# You only need the following two modules if you do not use xfs. 
# Load "freetype" # TrueType font handler 
# Load "type1" # Adobe Type 1 font handler 
Load "dbe" # Double-buffering 
Load "GLcore" # OpenGL support 
Load "dri" # Direct rendering infrastructure 
Load "glx" # OpenGL X protocol interface 
Load "extmod" # Misc. required extensions 
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "My Monitor"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Unknown"
HorizSync 31.5 - 48.5
VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "* Generic VESA compatible"
Driver "vesa"
BoardName "Unknown"
Option "UseFBDev"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Linux Frame Buffer"
Driver "fbdev"
BoardName "Unknown"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Trident"
Driver "trident"
BoardName "Unknown"
ChipSet "cyberbladeXPm/16"
Option "NoAccel" "false"
Option "ShadowFB" "false"
Option "CyberStretch" "false"
Option "CyberShadow" "true"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Trident"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection



Re: [Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Keith Packard


Around 1 o'clock on Dec 11, Jonathan Walther wrote:

 What is the method that involves the least amount of X calls, or at
 least is the fastest possible, method to repaint my window?

You can do this in one call with the Render extension -- create a 1 bit 
mask that has 0 where the image is and then use XRenderComposite with that 
as the alpha channel.  As the alpha mask is a separate drawable, you can 
adjust the location of the object by changing where the zero bits are in 
that mask.

No need for subwindows; just a simple mask.

 Keith, even if you aren't going to release your hacked version of twm,
 can you tell the eager masses what the trick was to make those root-menu
 windows in your twm screenshot be translucent?

To make this work reasonably is requiring significant restructuring of the 
insides of the X server.  I'm still busy getting the Render extension 
deployed so the other X server hacks are kinda on the back burner.

Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamCompaq Cambridge Research Lab


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Re: [Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Keith Packard


Around 16 o'clock on Dec 11, Jonathan Walther wrote:

 Thanks to your description, I don't need to know the following
 information now, but its been bugging the heck out of me:
 how did Keith Packard make his twn menu-windows translucent?

Serious server hacking suitable for a rigged demo only.  Real 
implementations are requiring a lot of server restructuring.

Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamCompaq Cambridge Research Lab


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Re: [Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Jonathan Walther

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:42:01PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
 What is the method that involves the least amount of X calls, or at
 least is the fastest possible, method to repaint my window?

You can do this in one call with the Render extension -- create a 1 bit 
mask that has 0 where the image is and then use XRenderComposite with that 
as the alpha channel.  As the alpha mask is a separate drawable, you can 
adjust the location of the object by changing where the zero bits are in 
that mask.

No need for subwindows; just a simple mask.

Thanks.  I'm reading the white papers on your homepage right now.

Jonathan



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Re: [Xpert]SiS630 and LCD

2001-12-11 Thread Giuseppe Sacco

I have probably the worst configuration :-(
ASUS A1000 series laptop with 14.1 LCD (1024x768x15)

Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 1452
Flags: 66Mhz, medium devsel
BIST result: 00
Memory at d800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Memory at cd80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
I/O ports at 9800 [size=128]

XFree3.3.6 works with both sis and fbdev driver
XFree4.0.2/3 works with VESA driver at 1024x768
XFree4.1.0.1 works with VESA but only at 800x600
XFree4.1.99.1 works with VESA but only at 800x600

the latest cvs snapshot I have (three days ago) seems to have some
improvements with the SiS drivers. Actually it starts, but the display is
corrupt: the last part of the screen lines are shown on top:

6
7

1
2
3
4
5

that means that 2/7th of the lines are shown on top, then I have a blank
line, then I have the first 5/7th of the screen.

And, this is not working in 1024x768 but 800x600.

Please note that every X version I have is perfectly working sith an
external monitor. The problems appears only using the LCD screen.

I never tried the VesaFBHack patch. Where may I found it?

bye,
Giuseppe

Il Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:02:24PM +0100, Thomas Winischhofer ha scritto:
 
 Egbert Eich writes:
  Stuart Young writes:
   The VesaFBHack patch, which was my little effort at re-implementing the
 [...]
 
  Right. Your patch was OK. I'm thinking about adding it for 4.2.
 
 Please do this otherwise 4.2 is unusable with this chipset (using LCD). 
 
 There seems to be a small glitch with Stuart's patch as I still get the
 melting screen sometimes when restarting X after the machine had been
 suspended and resumed once. (Can't reproduce this unfortunately, but he
 might have missed one call of SiSSetMode() [or whatever procedure he
 skipped when VesaFBHack=true])
 
 Thomas
 
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Re: [Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Jonathan Walther

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 05:07:02PM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
   Actually, if the arrow is simple, the fastest way to draw
it would be with a rectangle and a polygon (triangle).  That
would be faster than an arrow shaped stipple.

Alas, the arrow is a png that uses 200 different colors, plus has alpha
channel information which I'm ignoring for now.

Is XSetClipOrigin() also really slow, or could I get away with using it,
given that I'm only updating the screen 30-40 times per second?  I have
yet to dip my toes into the Render extension, so if XSetClipOrigin() is
fast enough, then my application need have no fuss nor muss.

   You mean in the pictures from his talk?  I believe that was
a hack to the X-server he did as a proof of concept.  The

Thanks.  I was wondering about that.  I can't wait till 4.2 comes out.
Is it true Xfree86 plans to support Sparc and HPUX platforms in the
future, now that it is the standard X?

Render extension was a skeleton back then.  Though I suppose
you could do it by putting up a window without a background
and then rendering into it with with Render.  When you

I ready a post in the archives; doing it that way may work now but is
actually undefined behavior.  Not kosher.


Jonathan



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Re: [Xpert]QUESTION: subtle behavior of XSetClipMask() ?

2001-12-11 Thread Keith Packard


Around 20 o'clock on Dec 11, Jonathan Walther wrote:

 Alas, the arrow is a png that uses 200 different colors, plus has alpha
 channel information which I'm ignoring for now.

You'll end up using the Render extension sooner or later in any case; the 
alpha channel information can't be used with core X...

 Is XSetClipOrigin() also really slow, or could I get away with using it,
 given that I'm only updating the screen 30-40 times per second?  I have
 yet to dip my toes into the Render extension, so if XSetClipOrigin() is
 fast enough, then my application need have no fuss nor muss.

XSetClipOrigin is pretty slow, but it might just barely be fast enough for 
this.

Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamCompaq Cambridge Research Lab




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[Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread gabriele castellini

Hi

I am happy to be able to say that finally I got a good screen
configuration on my Toshiba 1800-S204 laptop
with a trident cyberbladeXPAi1 chip.  It took me a  lot of attempts but
this is what I did.
I installed RedHat 7.0 that comes with XFree86-4.0.1 and it did not
detect my card.
Next I upgraded to XFree86-4.1.0 using the binaries downloaded from
xfree86.org, still no improvement.
I decided to go for the CVS. I downloaded, compiled and installed what
came out to be the pre-release version XFree86-4.1.99  (or so). Still no
luck with the configuration tool 'XFree86 -configure', although
the chip now was correctly identified as a cyberbladeXPAi1.  So, I
started playing around with some test
configuration file and by forcing the chipset as a cyberbladeXPm/16 I
got a perfect picture and everything
seems to work fine, at least what I tried so far. The strange thing is
that if I force the chipset as a
cyberbladeXPAi1, which is what it should be, then it does not work.  I
wonder if this is a bug or something
is wrong with my setup.
I hope that this is useful for those who are still struggling to get
their video configuration with this chip.

Gabriele

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Re: [Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread Alan Hourihane

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:24:57AM -0400, gabriele castellini wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am happy to be able to say that finally I got a good screen
 configuration on my Toshiba 1800-S204 laptop
 with a trident cyberbladeXPAi1 chip.  It took me a  lot of attempts but
 this is what I did.
 I installed RedHat 7.0 that comes with XFree86-4.0.1 and it did not
 detect my card.
 Next I upgraded to XFree86-4.1.0 using the binaries downloaded from
 xfree86.org, still no improvement.
 I decided to go for the CVS. I downloaded, compiled and installed what
 came out to be the pre-release version XFree86-4.1.99  (or so). Still no
 luck with the configuration tool 'XFree86 -configure', although
 the chip now was correctly identified as a cyberbladeXPAi1.  So, I
 started playing around with some test
 configuration file and by forcing the chipset as a cyberbladeXPm/16 I
 got a perfect picture and everything
 seems to work fine, at least what I tried so far. The strange thing is
 that if I force the chipset as a
 cyberbladeXPAi1, which is what it should be, then it does not work.  I
 wonder if this is a bug or something
 is wrong with my setup.
 I hope that this is useful for those who are still struggling to get
 their video configuration with this chip.
 
Thanks Gabriele,

It was a bug. I've just fixed it in CVS. You shouldn't need to force
the chipset now.

Alan.
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Re: [Xpert]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread David L. Gehrt

snip

 The strange thing is that if I force the chipset as a cyberbladeXPAi1,
 which is what it should be, then it does not work.  I wonder if this
 is a bug or something is wrong with my setup.

How about this as a clue:  On my 1805-274 when I look at Windoze XP the
chip is reported as a CyberBladeXPAi1, but when I boot up Linux the chip
is detected as a CyberBladeXPm.  And if that weren't confusing enough
The Toshiba Web site system specification sheet (pdf) lists the graphics
chip as a Trident CyberAladdin-T graphics controller.

The Trident web page says the Trident CyberAladdin-T is a CyberBladeXP
combined with an Acer Laboratories's North Bridge (M1651T) to provide a
...new generation of low-power integrated graphics and core logic
supporting the latest Intel Pentium® III-M (Tualatin) processor family.

while a CyberBladeXPAi1 combines Trident's 2D/3D graphics core (BLADE
3D[tm]) and Acer Laboratories ' North Bridge (M1641) to provide a
...low-power integrated graphics and core logic supporting Intel's
Pentium® III and Celeron[tm] processor family.

So now at least on my box I am unclear as to a) what the graphics Chip
really is and b) how much difference the confusion in a) matters when it
cones to picking a driver.  What a mess!

 I hope that this is useful for those who are still struggling to get
 their video configuration with this chip.

I too would like to see you config file.

dlg

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[Xpert]RE: [Newbie]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1

2001-12-11 Thread fernando

Hi,
Somebody knows about DVD? or am I in the wrong place.
I would like to know about the software and the steps to install this
software.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Fernando

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Behalf Of gabriele castellini
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Newbie]Trident cyberbladeXPAi1


Hi

I am happy to be able to say that finally I got a good screen
configuration on my Toshiba 1800-S204 laptop
with a trident cyberbladeXPAi1 chip.  It took me a  lot of attempts but
this is what I did.
I installed RedHat 7.0 that comes with XFree86-4.0.1 and it did not
detect my card.
Next I upgraded to XFree86-4.1.0 using the binaries downloaded from
xfree86.org, still no improvement.
I decided to go for the CVS. I downloaded, compiled and installed what
came out to be the pre-release version XFree86-4.1.99  (or so). Still no
luck with the configuration tool 'XFree86 -configure', although
the chip now was correctly identified as a cyberbladeXPAi1.  So, I
started playing around with some test
configuration file and by forcing the chipset as a cyberbladeXPm/16 I
got a perfect picture and everything
seems to work fine, at least what I tried so far. The strange thing is
that if I force the chipset as a
cyberbladeXPAi1, which is what it should be, then it does not work.  I
wonder if this is a bug or something
is wrong with my setup.
I hope that this is useful for those who are still struggling to get
their video configuration with this chip.

Gabriele

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