Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
[Keith Packard] Around 21 o'clock on Dec 3, Mark Vojkovich wrote: How about we let through any mail from people subscribed to the list and moderate messages from anyone who isn't? I suppose; that would also reduce the random spam some. This really helps on my lists. It's a bit of a pain to administer, though, I have to click on each of 30-40 messages per day to tell Mailman it's spam, and proper submissions could easily be lost among the spam. The key is to make sure your From address is a member of the list; is there anyone for whom that would be a significant burden? It is possible to subscribe using several addresses, and select No Mail for all but one of them in the Mailman web interface. You can't use an invalid address for posting (it can't be invalid at the time of subscribing, anyway) but you can make it easily identifiable so that mail to that address can be filtered out if an address harvester happens upon a list archive. Common techniques for tagging an address are [EMAIL PROTECTED], or user+localpart@domain (common in Sendmail installations), or user-localpart@domain (Qmail). -- Kjetil T. abusing standards for the greater good http://www.microsoft.com:products@866552/ ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Keith Packard wrote: Around 21 o'clock on Dec 3, Mark Vojkovich wrote: How about we let through any mail from people subscribed to the list and moderate messages from anyone who isn't? We have a significant amount of traffic from non-subscribers; a significant part of this is bug reports, so important to receive. Do we have the manpower to provide a good turnaround for moderation ? I suppose; that would also reduce the random spam some. The key is to make sure your From address is a member of the list; is there anyone for whom that would be a significant burden? I post from 2 addresses, and would rather not receive 2 copies of all traffic. I trust that we can have 2 lists of members, one who receives and one who doesn't ? -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Personaly, I have several mail boxes that netscape checks and drops things in the approate folders. Typicaly I subscribe with a different e-mail address than my standard one. Although I have not done this on this list I would like to be able to post to the list from an unsubscribed e-mail address. I am willing to wait for it to be moderated. (I will change my from: address if my issue is timely, to get the post up quicker.) This is my thought, (agreeing with Mark) Frank On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote: On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Keith Packard wrote: Around 14 o'clock on Dec 4, J Grant wrote: Would it be possible to moderate this list? or a least filter the domains that spam tends to come from so that the majority do not get through? Could you moderate the First post from each new subscriber? that way people could not just spam the list. Moderating the list would significantly slow the flow of information; I'm hoping to eliminate the viruses with some simple filters. I'll also investigate whether we can get some reasonable virus checkers to run on mailing list mail. How about we let through any mail from people subscribed to the list and moderate messages from anyone who isn't? Mark. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Keith Packard wrote: Around 21 o'clock on Dec 3, Mark Vojkovich wrote: How about we let through any mail from people subscribed to the list and moderate messages from anyone who isn't? I suppose; that would also reduce the random spam some. The key is to make sure your From address is a member of the list; is there anyone for whom that would be a significant burden? Does this list support subscription without delivery? On another list I'm on they do this, and allow you to subscribe multiple addresses and disable delivery to any you want. Then you can send from all your valid email addresses, because they are subscribed, and you only get one copy. -- Kevin ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
RE: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Title: RE: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late That wouldn't be a good thing as some of us (like myself) are forced to use Outlook by corporate thugs. The spam is just annoying, it's the viruses that get people kicked off the list by management. Limiting posting to members will reduce spam, but won't eliminate the viruses, unless I also eliminate postings from Outlook... Keith Packard XFree86 Core Team ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
RE: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
whoops! I thought I switched this over to plain text. Sorry. -Original Message- From: George Jones (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:14 AM To: 'Keith Packard'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: xpert Subject: RE: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late That wouldn't be a good thing as some of us (like myself) are forced to use Outlook by corporate thugs. The spam is just annoying, it's the viruses that get people kicked off the list by management. Limiting posting to members will reduce spam, but won't eliminate the viruses, unless I also eliminate postings from Outlook... Keith PackardXFree86 Core Team ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:16:34AM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: How about we let through any mail from people subscribed to the list and moderate messages from anyone who isn't? We have a significant amount of traffic from non-subscribers; a significant part of this is bug reports, so important to receive. Do we have the manpower to provide a good turnaround for moderation ? What is about filtering just the e-mails witch contains attachments? (perhaps Mailman allows it to search for things like Content-Type or Content-Transfer-Encoding) Christian Leber ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Fw: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
meant to send this to the list and not to Mr Leber personally Casey - Original Message - From: Casey Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christian Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late filter based on the filename given for the attachments if its .exe, .scr, .vbs, etc... then force it to be moderated this should kill 99% of the virii that would make it to the list Casey - Original Message - From: Christian Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:16:34AM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: How about we let through any mail from people subscribed to the list and moderate messages from anyone who isn't? We have a significant amount of traffic from non-subscribers; a significant part of this is bug reports, so important to receive. Do we have the manpower to provide a good turnaround for moderation ? What is about filtering just the e-mails witch contains attachments? (perhaps Mailman allows it to search for things like Content-Type or Content-Transfer-Encoding) Christian Leber ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Em Ter 04 Dez 2001 04:48, Greg Black escreveu: Keith Packard wrote: | Around 15 o'clock on Dec 4, J Grant wrote: | There are other solutions, i think sites like spamcop.org etc can | provide databases of common spam servers. But this all takes time, and | I believe KeithP has lots better things to do. | | The spam is just annoying, it's the viruses that get people kicked off | the list by management. Limiting posting to members will reduce spam, | but won't eliminate the viruses, unless I also eliminate postings from | Outlook... I can certainly live with the idea of eliminating Outlook posts. A bad idea. See, if anyone has a trouble with X and has no way to reach us but by using Outlook? Sure, there are pine, pppd and other console tools, but some people don't know how to use it propely. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
- Original Message - From: Sérvio Túlio Pires Amarante [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | I can certainly live with the idea of eliminating Outlook posts. | | A bad idea. See, if anyone has a trouble with X and has no way to reach us | but by using Outlook? Sure, there are pine, pppd and other console tools, | but some people don't know how to use it propely. Question from a newbie: Would it be posible to filter HTML posting and attaches? ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Hello As pointed out by the .mil guy who had to leave, i too am now being questioned about this email list. I get reports of viruses emailed to me and the sysadmin regularly. Would it be possible to moderate this list? or a least filter the domains that spam tends to come from so that the majority do not get through? Could you moderate the First post from each new subscriber? that way people could not just spam the list. Not needing to be a member is part of the problem and should be incorporated into the solution i feel. In an ideal world this would not happen, but unfortunately frequently it does. Anyway, i did not want to sound in anyway authoritarian, its upto the list admins to decide. JG ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Around 14 o'clock on Dec 4, J Grant wrote: Would it be possible to moderate this list? or a least filter the domains that spam tends to come from so that the majority do not get through? Could you moderate the First post from each new subscriber? that way people could not just spam the list. Moderating the list would significantly slow the flow of information; I'm hoping to eliminate the viruses with some simple filters. I'll also investigate whether we can get some reasonable virus checkers to run on mailing list mail. So far, the viruses have not come from any particular location, and several have come from people legitimately subscribed to the list. Not needing to be a member is part of the problem and should be incorporated into the solution i feel. The reason for accepting postings from non-members is largely because most of us have many email addresses, and use different addresses for different activities. Please understand that no-one is more interested in fixing this little virus problem -- the viruses themselves are harmless, but the tremendous flood of mail I receive after each such message from various helpful mail systems is not pleasant. Keith PackardXFree86 Core Team ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Keith Packard wrote: Around 14 o'clock on Dec 4, J Grant wrote: Would it be possible to moderate this list? or a least filter the domains that spam tends to come from so that the majority do not get through? Could you moderate the First post from each new subscriber? that way people could not just spam the list. Moderating the list would significantly slow the flow of information; I'm hoping to eliminate the viruses with some simple filters. I'll also investigate whether we can get some reasonable virus checkers to run on mailing list mail. How about we let through any mail from people subscribed to the list and moderate messages from anyone who isn't? Mark. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Hi Miles O'Neal wrote: Are you running anti-virus software? My company mail server is, it has not let any virus through so far, its just the email to me and the CC: to my sys admin/boss that means I get people inquiring all the time about why I am on lists that get viruses regularly. I agree with Mark Vojkovich's moderate non-subscribed members idea. There are other solutions, i think sites like spamcop.org etc can provide databases of common spam servers. But this all takes time, and I believe KeithP has lots better things to do. JG Hypermedia Research Centre Sanyo RD Headquarters, Tokyo http://www.sanyo.co.jp/R_and_D/3dm/ Tel: +81 (0)3 5803 3566 Fax: +81 (0)3 5803 3640 E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please use open standard file formats for attachments ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Too many viruses of late
Keith Packard wrote: | Around 15 o'clock on Dec 4, J Grant wrote: | | There are other solutions, i think sites like spamcop.org etc can | provide databases of common spam servers. But this all takes time, and I | believe KeithP has lots better things to do. | | The spam is just annoying, it's the viruses that get people kicked off the | list by management. Limiting posting to members will reduce spam, but | won't eliminate the viruses, unless I also eliminate postings from | Outlook... I can certainly live with the idea of eliminating Outlook posts. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
