[delicious-discuss] Spam on Del.icio.us?
Wow, I'm sure this has happened before, but this is the first time I've noticed spam on the del.icio.us/popular page. This afternoon there is a series of 20+ links all with the title of [Celebrity name] in Relationships, all posted initially by the same account, all also posted by the same dozen other accounts, and all of the links point to a machine-generated crap page on the same website (which is selling some relationship analysis bullshit). The 20+ links are all for celebrity pages that have first names starting with A, and it looks like the original cockroach (username: shlomot) has loaded del.icio.us up with almost 300 of these spam links tied to celebrity names (although his other fake accounts don't seem to have linked all 300 yet). How common is this problem? How is it dealt with? --greg ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Spam on Del.icio.us?
There's a bunch of heuristics to deal with this stuff. Looks like we need a few more. Thanks for pointing this out. Joshua On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Greg Ritter wrote: Wow, I'm sure this has happened before, but this is the first time I've noticed spam on the del.icio.us/popular page. This afternoon there is a series of 20+ links all with the title of [Celebrity name] in Relationships, all posted initially by the same account, all also posted by the same dozen other accounts, and all of the links point to a machine-generated crap page on the same website (which is selling some relationship analysis bullshit). The 20+ links are all for celebrity pages that have first names starting with A, and it looks like the original cockroach (username: shlomot) has loaded del.icio.us up with almost 300 of these spam links tied to celebrity names (although his other fake accounts don't seem to have linked all 300 yet). How common is this problem? How is it dealt with? --greg ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Spam on Del.icio.us?
I wonder whether dealing with this stuff includes, e.g., cooperating w/ the likes of Merrick Furst at Georgia Tech[1], who leads a team that studies botnets; or law enforcement agencies, who presumably also study this sort of thing; or other areas of Y! who face the same issue Is there, btw, an Anti-Spam Team at Y!?... One would think something like this would make sense. I'm just thinking that you could automate communication betw. del. and other interested parties, and that part of this communication could be *inbound*, alerting del. and/or Y! to bad IP addresses, etc Matthew[1] http://www.cc.gatech.edu/index.php?searchword=merrick+furstoption=com_searchItemid=searchphrase=all On 2/12/06, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a bunch of heuristics to deal with this stuff. Looks like weneed a few more.Thanks for pointing this out.JoshuaOn Feb 12, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Greg Ritter wrote: Wow, I'm sure this has happened before, but this is the first time I've noticed spam on the del.icio.us/popular page. This afternoon there is a series of 20+ links all with the title of [Celebrity name] in Relationships, all posted initially by the same account, all also posted by the same dozen other accounts, and all of the links point to a machine-generated crap page on the same website (which is selling some relationship analysis bullshit). The 20+ links are all for celebrity pages that have first names starting with A, and it looks like the original cockroach (username: shlomot) has loaded del.icio.us up with almost 300 of these spam links tied to celebrity names (although his other fake accounts don't seem to have linked all 300 yet). How common is this problem? How is it dealt with? --greg ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss--joshua schachter[EMAIL PROTECTED]___discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.ushttp://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Spam on Del.icio.us?
On 2/13/06, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a bunch of heuristics to deal with this stuff. Looks like we need a few more. Thanks for pointing this out. Joshua Two ways to deal with spam: * TrustRank: http://www.vldb.org/conf/2004/RS15P3.PDF Perhaps one can start by manually identifying a small set of trusted users whose trust can then be progagated along some social network (e.g.,obtained through inbox subscriptions) using TrustRank. * collaborative filtering Of course, in an environment where users cannot create many accounts easily (e.g., in a university or company), then some simpler social methods can work too. Amir On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Greg Ritter wrote: Wow, I'm sure this has happened before, but this is the first time I've noticed spam on the del.icio.us/popular page. This afternoon there is a series of 20+ links all with the title of [Celebrity name] in Relationships, all posted initially by the same account, all also posted by the same dozen other accounts, and all of the links point to a machine-generated crap page on the same website (which is selling some relationship analysis bullshit). The 20+ links are all for celebrity pages that have first names starting with A, and it looks like the original cockroach (username: shlomot) has loaded del.icio.us up with almost 300 of these spam links tied to celebrity names (although his other fake accounts don't seem to have linked all 300 yet). How common is this problem? How is it dealt with? --greg ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] Feature Request: Search doesn't include option to edit
Hello, I tried to send this message about 2 months ago, but was denied as I wasn't a member of the list. I figured that wouldn't matter because eventually a moderator would get to my post. Guess not. You guys really should have responsive moderators if you want the anonymous public to get legitimate messages though and get mailing list time. And so the original message continues. I've been using delicious for a few months now and thinks its a semi-interesting idea that has some good uses. One thing that I'm confused about is why when I go to my page on delicious (del.icio.us/albino) and do a search for an entry I've posted can I not edit that entry as I would if I had done: My Page -- Find bookmark (Probably Ctrl-F with browser) -- edit/delete. Your search should be useful for editing and deleting too. Also while were at it with the suggestions. You guys should look into suggestions. I mean, say I'm browsing someones bookmarks and I find that some one has made a typo on one of their tags for one of their entries. I could be able to send them a fix. Then when they login next they should have a a page somewhere that lets them click _one_ button to accept the change. I would prefer something that looks like: Fix from $username: Suggest changing tag on bookmark $link_bookmark_title to $corrected_tag_name $link_accept $link_deny $link_ignore_suggestions_from_this_user_forever Or better yet, just a plain tag suggestion: Suggest adding tag on bookmark $bookmark_title to $suggested_tag_name $link_accept $$link_deny $link_ignore_suggestions_from_this_user_forever You get the general idea. Then people could setup white lists for friends that they trust to be able to automatically suggest fixes. This way when I make a typo or forget a tag people I know can help me to correct this. Its not just social bookmarking, its _collaborative_ social bookmarking. If you ever get around to implementing the suggestions+friends white list idea you should keep revision history on changes so I can revert to what I had before if I disagree with a friend. After all, they are my bookmarks. But thats more of a feature request on top of a feature request. Please add me to the CC for replies, I'm not subscribed to this list. Thanks Dan PS Is there a good place for feature requests for delicious? If not I think you guys should setup an email address or something. I couldn't find anything on the website and this mailing lists seemed like the best place to me. I apologize if it's off-topic. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Feature Request: Search doesn't include option to edit
This list gets a few hundred spam emails a day. I try to go in and accept posts now and then but it's a lot of work. We're going to probably shut down the list and move to a yahoo group at some point. There's no good reason to use up actual people to moderate this. (And uhhh is it just me or i'm not subscribed to this list kinda rude?) If you want to get email to us, use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Edit on the search link is coming; the search engine isn't realtime (the penalty for speed) and we are working on this. On Feb 12, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Dan Miller wrote: Hello, I tried to send this message about 2 months ago, but was denied as I wasn't a member of the list. I figured that wouldn't matter because eventually a moderator would get to my post. Guess not. You guys really should have responsive moderators if you want the anonymous public to get legitimate messages though and get mailing list time. And so the original message continues. I've been using delicious for a few months now and thinks its a semi-interesting idea that has some good uses. One thing that I'm confused about is why when I go to my page on delicious (del.icio.us/albino) and do a search for an entry I've posted can I not edit that entry as I would if I had done: My Page -- Find bookmark (Probably Ctrl-F with browser) -- edit/delete. Your search should be useful for editing and deleting too. Also while were at it with the suggestions. You guys should look into suggestions. I mean, say I'm browsing someones bookmarks and I find that some one has made a typo on one of their tags for one of their entries. I could be able to send them a fix. Then when they login next they should have a a page somewhere that lets them click _one_ button to accept the change. I would prefer something that looks like: Fix from $username: Suggest changing tag on bookmark $link_bookmark_title to $corrected_tag_name $link_accept $link_deny $link_ignore_suggestions_from_this_user_forever Or better yet, just a plain tag suggestion: Suggest adding tag on bookmark $bookmark_title to $suggested_tag_name $link_accept $$link_deny $link_ignore_suggestions_from_this_user_forever You get the general idea. Then people could setup white lists for friends that they trust to be able to automatically suggest fixes. This way when I make a typo or forget a tag people I know can help me to correct this. Its not just social bookmarking, its _collaborative_ social bookmarking. If you ever get around to implementing the suggestions+friends white list idea you should keep revision history on changes so I can revert to what I had before if I disagree with a friend. After all, they are my bookmarks. But thats more of a feature request on top of a feature request. Please add me to the CC for replies, I'm not subscribed to this list. Thanks Dan PS Is there a good place for feature requests for delicious? If not I think you guys should setup an email address or something. I couldn't find anything on the website and this mailing lists seemed like the best place to me. I apologize if it's off-topic. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
