RE: [ydn-delicious] Re: is del.icio.us a social news service?
John Remmers wrote: A personal star system is good for labeling your personal favorites, but not so good for finding what other people consider to be their favorites. For favorites-sharing, you need a standardized way of doing it. If the online documentation were to mention a few of these common desires, and mention possible workarounds (just use one to five asterisks to rate your bookmarks!) it would become a de facto standard. No additional coding necessary - you just have to nudge people in the right direction. Tim -- Tim Larson West Corporation, Interactive TeleServices Eschew obfuscation! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [ydn-delicious] Re: Feature Request: better cloud styling (hierarchy comment)
Personally, I'd still like a hierarchy, like regular bookmarks, because sometimes a word you tag with can mean different things depending on what it's paired with What you are seeking is the ability to associate a key word with a taxonomy. A common example I use the word architecture. Is that architecture as in software architecture or landscape architecture? Choosing the word from a taxonomy would eliminate that ambiguity. The work-around in del.icio.us and most other taggers is use of compound or delimited words: SoftwareArchitecture, LandscapeArchitecture or Software.Architecture, Landscape.Architecture. Choosing which word comes first or appears to the left of the delimiter is a matter of circumstance. If you want to classify everything under Software then it comes first. Whether using taxonomy or a work-around, think of it like building a path to the word. The downside to taxonomy is that it must exist. That sounds silly, I know, but if you do not already have a well-defined and accepted taxonomy, arriving at consensus for a proper system of classification can be difficult. That's why folksonomy exists. Best, Kevin Kevin M. Curry Chief Scientist, Bridgeborn http://www.bridgeborn.com http://www.bridgeborn.com 596 Lynnhaven Parkway, Suite 100 Virginia Beach, VA 23452 Office: 757.437.5000 Mobile: 757.613.8158 Fax: 757.531.7460 _ From: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of selune13 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:00 PM To: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ydn-delicious] Re: Feature Request: better cloud styling I think what I like best about flickr clouds is that the font is nice and easy to read, and they are all lowercase, which makes them easier to read that some caps and some not. Personally, I'd still like a hierarchy, like regular bookmarks, because sometimes a word you tag with can mean different things depending on what it's paired with. For instance, I use the tag adult to refer to adult clothing patterns and adult (not for kids) sites. Bundling sort of does that, but you'd have to bundle adult with only one of those choices. It would be nice if you could click on Adult, then choose from Clothing or Over18 or something. Sort of like a drop-down menu for tags, I guess. Does that make sense? --- In ydn-delicious@ mailto:ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, lil_crazy_gekko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, Can I just say I love delicious to bits! Recently I have been using it a lot more, and it has been a great information organising tool. Thank you so much to all involved. Now on to my feature request. I have found the cloud to be too basic, though it is functional. I am used to clouds that are more styled, perhaps like http://en.wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flickr_Tag_Cloud.gif. .org/wiki/Image:Flickr_Tag_Cloud.gif. Can this be looked into? Or should I implement client-side CSS for delicious? Cheers, Xin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] Re: An active user, shown with 0 item count and no tags
--- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, Toby Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There appears to be a bug that we're working on addressing. It should be fixed in the next push. Thanks Toby! the sidebar and item counter can be displayed correctly now. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ydn-delicious] Searching issue resolved by re-importing, but had to make all public AGAIN!
On Oct 13, 2006, at 6:08 AM, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: Toby Elliott wrote: While I'm discussing rebuilds, I'm pleased to announce that the new url history backend is now in place and should be much faster. However, like the search, it's taking a while to generate all the data and you may see incorrect 'no history' pages for the next couple of days. I do expect this one to finish much faster. Is this sort of thing announced anywhere on the site, or is being on this list the only way to understand these otherwise-inexplicable service outages? Large scale planned or longer-than-expected site outages will be announced on blog.del.icio.us. Smaller outages that otherwise leave the core functionality of the site unaffected (such as URL history), or affect a small handful of users (personal search) tend to be announced on this mailing list. Regards, Toby Elliott del.icio.us Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] a fun idea to intergrate w/ delicious
ello all; after so much reading it was only a matter of time until i couldn't contain this one idea. so, hello and lemme know what ya think. del is hands down the best human oriented engine since google; del, like it's latter, is boiling with potential. a service that decentralizes the very process for scouring information placing a stronger emphasis on user input is easily the new networking standard for only those who make it so. now, inevitable gloating aside; yet, in the end delicious is still what it is, a domain hack for bookmarks. considering each user input is quantified as a user-specfic domain, which merely creates this function w/o formidable output considering domain strength of it's input. exploiting such an idea creates this dynamic engine amongst billions of users while leaving the organizational aesthetics and structure completely static, as it is w/ all keyword search engines. there's so much potential, considering a unique domain, in reconfiguring how we view and approach systems of knowledge altogether. Opposed to squandering our time on sequential search results, might we envision a holistic, action oriented, visual of those same static results. intergrating user specific data sets and the recent advent of general-purpose/domain-specific modeling of information donates a new form of interacting with information and knowledge so uncanny it might very well render a new means of communication. granting an indivdual user visual hacking techniques by cutting, splicing, layering, editing, repositioning, etc. will create this domain-specific type of processing of domain-specific types of data. such a design might very well render traditional forms of learning new information obseloete! but, w/o an action oriented visual platform for modeling all this unique data they're merely sequential search results. Creating a rich and unique form of user-input is only half the task of such an exploit. to exploit-the-exploit is for the user to truly make their information their own by modeling user-specific subjective visual systems. does anyone else see this potential? or is this merely an silly idea w/o enough perspective? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] Re: is del.icio.us a social news service?
See the bottom of http://del.icio.us/help/tags - I added a mention of this asterisk-tagging idea in the recent help-section revision. :) -Britta --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, Larson, Timothy E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Remmers wrote: A personal star system is good for labeling your personal favorites, but not so good for finding what other people consider to be their favorites. For favorites-sharing, you need a standardized way of doing it. If the online documentation were to mention a few of these common desires, and mention possible workarounds (just use one to five asterisks to rate your bookmarks!) it would become a de facto standard. No additional coding necessary - you just have to nudge people in the right direction. Tim -- Tim Larson West Corporation, Interactive TeleServices Eschew obfuscation! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] Re: Automatically saving links from trusted network members
I haven't read up on Pukka but it came up in a discussion I was having with a developer who's doing some work for us as a possible solution. Unfortunately, we're PC-based in this office but I'll go back to Pukka and see what it actually does. I'm sure it would be possible to script something but sadly I'm not a programmer! However, what you're thinking about sounds like exactly what I'm after. Would this include options to only receive for:'d links from certain accounts? What would also be useful is some kind of marker or alert so received links don't just disappear underneath your own posts before you notice them. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [ydn-delicious] Searching issue resolved by re-importing, but had to make all public AGAIN!
I don't think posting to the list or posting to the blog is the right way to get this out. We'll fix the message at the top notification thing to do this more easily (currently it only goes out with software releases) so we can do this. We've been in deep firefighting mode this week, however _ From: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larson, Timothy E. Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:09 AM To: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ydn-delicious] Searching issue resolved by re-importing, but had to make all public AGAIN! Toby Elliott wrote: While I'm discussing rebuilds, I'm pleased to announce that the new url history backend is now in place and should be much faster. However, like the search, it's taking a while to generate all the data and you may see incorrect 'no history' pages for the next couple of days. I do expect this one to finish much faster. Is this sort of thing announced anywhere on the site, or is being on this list the only way to understand these otherwise-inexplicable service outages? Tim -- Tim Larson West Corporation, Interactive TeleServices Eschew obfuscation! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ydn-delicious] Searching issue resolved by re-importing, but had to make all public AGAIN!
At 08:24 PM 2006-10-12, Toby Elliott wrote: ... and you may see incorrect 'no history' pages for the next couple of days. Sorry, I had not read this before I sent my message about history broken. Paul Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ydn-delicious] Can't import favourites
On Oct 13, 2006, at 16:44, Jocke Andersson wrote: I joined delicious earlier today and happily sat down and tagged a number of pages that I like. When I got home I decided to expand my experience and give Flock a try as well. Problem was that Flock ended up wiping my delicious favourites, keeping 2 randomly chosen ones that it (or delicious) apparently liked. Fortuneatly I had exported all my favourites from delicious and saved them locally in a htm file. Here's the big problem: when I try to import those favourites (or ones exported from Firefox) all I get is error, error, error. The file is 12kb large and there shouldn't be any problems at all with the format since it was delicious that created the file from the beginnging. What is wrong? Hi, Jocke. I don't know what's wrong yet, but I can find out. Send me your del.icio.us account name, and I'll check the logs. -- Rocco Caputo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] Failing imports? We have the cure!
If your imports have been failing over the past few hours, it's probably because of an error on one of our imports machines. Give it another try. We've corrected the problem, and imports should be working again. -- Rocco Caputo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] Re: Searching issue resolved by re-importing, but had to make all public AGAIN!
Hamsters, huh. Maybe an upgrade to guinea pigs is in order. I've heard they're more user-friendly anyway. :) Thanks for the update. :) --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, Toby Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 12, 2006, at 4:53 PM, selune13 wrote: I don't know if any of you have been experiencing issues searching your own tagged items, but I haven't been able to do it from the start. Finally (hit self on head), just exported all the links and re-imported them. That fixed the search issue, but then, of course, had to go through EVERY SINGLE BOOKMARK and make them public, and remove the import tag (although I'm not 100% sure you have to tag them as imported, I just accepted the default). Still frustrated that you cannot bulk change. I was trying to do that through an on-line script to do bulk changes with a 4 second delay and got locked out of Delicious for at least several hours. Grr. We're rebuilding the user searches at the moment. However, this represents an enormous amount of data, so it takes a long time to process everything. At the moment, we expect everyone to be fixed in approximately a week and a half, though many users will see fixes come in before then (we're processing user by user). Apologies for the length of time it's taking, but the hamsters can't run any faster. While I'm discussing rebuilds, I'm pleased to announce that the new url history backend is now in place and should be much faster. However, like the search, it's taking a while to generate all the data and you may see incorrect 'no history' pages for the next couple of days. I do expect this one to finish much faster. Regards, Toby Elliott del.icio.us Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] Bundling - prepare yourself for stupid question......Ready?
I'm not sure if this is just an added feature of the Firefox extension or what, but when I use bundled tags with one of the delicious extension sidebars, I am able to select multiple tags under one bundle and it will filter out accordingly. For instance, I can click on tags for baby and crochet and it will only choose items with those two words in the tags (or descriptions, I think). But on the delicious home page, I am not able to click on two different tags under one bundle. Is this just me or is it just an added functionality in the extension? Either way, I love being able to do that. It's like super easy searching in the sidebar. Now, if they just had actual searching of your bookmarks in a sidebar, that would be spiffy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
