Re: [delicious-discuss] sharing a tag or using a shared account
The real potential problem spot I see is the inability to get *all* links for a tag or tag combination outside of the API-- so if I have a shared tag foofoo then at some point I lose the ability to programatically get at all the foofoo items because non-api access through RSS is limited to a recent historical set... How are you dealing with this? I am assuming a known and coordinated group, so that the group members can each pull their data, in order to get an offline concatenation. If you circulate a tag with a proposed use or set of user-behaviors, and you don't have any way of coordinating with the contributors after the fact, then you won't be able to get it from the API this way, but in that circumstnace, you'd also have trouble with a group account, since it would be unpatrolable unless you have some group controls. The tag party is an interesting idea... Watching the input was fascinating -- the real question will be whether anyone uses those tags starting in the new term, since it was about marking up educational resources. -c ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Flock, the New Browser on the Block, integrating del.icio.us
Frankly, I don't understand why. I mean, how many people use del.icio.ushttp://del.icio.ustoday vs. what's the size of Flock's target market?... And how hard is it to clone del.icio.us?. http://del.icio.us?... Both not-hard and hard. Several people have cloned the functionality, but it's hard to clone positive returns to scale. I would've thought it would've made sense for these folks to roll their own - hoping to leave del.icio.us http://del.icio.us in the dust - but ... shows how much I know, I guess. Why re-invent when you can integrate? The del.icio.us codebase is an empty vessel -- the value comes from us. Starting from scratch means starting with zero value. Starting with del integration is free, and means less distraction from browser-writing, including the fact that del's server-based model requires a different set of skills than writing and shipping a browser. I share your skepticism about Flock's target of 100M users -- that is an absurd number -- but starting with an empty clone of del would leave them with *fewer* initial target users and *more* work to do, a distinctly bad set of options relative to the alternative. -c ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: educated guess - Re: [delicious-discuss] del.icio.us stats
Delicious users seem much more active but maybe it's only a small core of users. All these informations are not enough to make anything else than guessing. May I suggest 20 million bookmarks ? At 200k users that would be 100 per user on average. The deceptive thing about systems like this are that the average is meaningless, as the distribution is not a bell curve. There are, yes, a small core of highly active users, but the decision about who goes in that core is totally random, since the distribution of links per user is roughly a power law. Both del and spurl get most of their activity from a small group of highly active users, but bigger systems benefit from both higher heads *and* longer tails. -clay ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Feature request: Tag myself?
I'm wondering if it would be possible to treat users as any other URI. Why not just do exactly that -- I just tagged http://del.icio.us/cshirky; with 'bald impoverished unreliable' -- what other kind of operation do you need. -c I'd like to be able to tag myself, male, husband, software_developer, java, photographer... This way I could provide meta data about me beyond the tags that I add to a social bookmarking system. I think this would provide some context to the URI tags that I am adding to the system. It would allow me to not only find URL's by tag that I am interested in but allow me to narrow the scope of that tag to users that are treating that tag in the same context. Thoughts? -matt ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss