Re: [ydn-delicious] subwebs and better link recommendations
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:01:54 +1000, Amir Michail [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, What do you think of the following? Aside from tag-related links and user-related links, this would be a way for a user to provide *explicit* user-related links, things that a user thinks *should* be related to this link. This is conceptually very close or identical to the kinds of collections enabled by Rollyo, Wink, Squidoo, Kaboodle and others (Yahoo MyWeb ? ). So, adding a lightweight, easy-to-add explicit user-defined clustering on a bookmark might be a good idea. If the system showed clusters that other users have created around this bookmark, that might help as well. It appears different enough from other notions of related ( http://tinyurl.com/e854x ) to be interesting if added in a lightweight way to del.icio.us. You could possibly jigger the existing delicious tag system and fake this by creating large sets of special case tags to keep all this glued together with private semantic tags, but that seems to suggest this should really have intrinsic system support. Nitin Borwankar, Tag Schemer http://tagschema.com * when entering a bookmark, you supply not only tags but also virtual inlinks and virtual outlinks; for example, when bookmarking TeXmacs, you might supply LyX as a virtual inlink and several TeXmacs resources pages as virtual outlinks. * these virtual inlinks and outlinks allow you to create your own subweb that you can use to browse your bookmarks; for example, when browsing the LyX bookmark in your subweb, you will see TeXmacs as a virtual outlink * moreover, the combined virtual inlinks and outlinks of all users provide an alternative view of the web, perhaps with more interesting linking * when browsing links, you can click more like this or fewer like this; the system keeps track of both of your liked and disliked links * virtual inlinks and outlinks along with liked/disliked links can be used to enhance personalized recommendations * for example, to compute the personalization score for some link Y with respect to some user P's liked links U_1, ..., U_m and disliked links V_1, ..., V_n, we could do the following: compute scores for Y's virtual inlinks from all users: say S_i for X_i = Y (the stronger the implication, the higher the score) compute scores for Y's virtual outlinks from all users: say S'_i for Y=X_i (the stronger the implication, the higher the score) compute the personalization score for Y with respect to user P as follows: sum S_i over U_i - sum S'_j over V_j Amir Yahoo! Groups Links -- Nitin Borwankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [delicious-discuss] db issues
Hi Joshua, Are you able to talk about what the issues were in any detail? And what you did to fix them? It would be instructive to others building tag based web sites. Disclaimer: My curiosity is somewhat biased because of ownership of the tagdb mailing list. Nitin Borwankar http://tagschema.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] joshua schachter wrote: joshua schachter wrote: The database had minor issues today. I brought down the site and am repairing the relevant stuff. No data was lost, but indexes got corrupted. Things are going to be odd for an hour or two while stuff gets regenerated. Specifically, tag browsing may be broken for a while. Finally, everything appears to have been resolved. A horrific mysql experience all around. Joshua begin:vcard fn:Nitin Borwankar n:Borwankar;Nitin email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:510-872-7066 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Feature request: Tag myself?
Actually, people tagging other people is the basis of a reputation system isn't it? People tagging other people seems like a looser and wider version of an ebay rating systems or similar systems such as advogato peer ratings. A related app I built for a non profit (Nautilus Group www.nautilus.org) allowed them to decide how to create working groups when hosting seminars. Nautilus has a database of a large number of movers and shakers in nuclear non-proliferation and they host seminars where people solve real problems blocking progress in this and other areas. The database of people is annotated by Nautilus staffers with comments like A likes to work with B or C doesn't appear to get along with D and so on. They use these as hints to create groups in their seminars. This app is, in effect, an interpersonal tagging system. In this case the tags are supplied by third parties, but the tags carry approximately, the opinions of the primary actors. People tagging other people with opinion tags or impression tags seems to me to create a network of illusions. But we may choose to share our friends illusions and this may be useful, or not. Agreed that implementing this is likely to open a massive can of grief-worms. Nitin Borwankar. On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:02:07 -0400 (EDT), Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Seems like a good way to be a griefer. -j On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Michael Newton wrote: or, maybe all the tags that anyone has stuck on that user. i think this is a great feature idea. M. On 6/2/05, Matt MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gotcha makes sense. So maybe it'd be good have that as part of the user interface... when I go to a users homepage it displays the tags that the user has provided for that URI. -matt On 6/2/05, Clay Shirky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if it would be possible to treat users as any other URI. Why not just do exactly that -- I just tagged http://del.icio.us/cshirky; with 'bald impoverished unreliable' -- what other kind of operation do you need. -c I'd like to be able to tag myself, male, husband, software_developer, java, photographer... This way I could provide meta data about me beyond the tags that I add to a social bookmarking system. I think this would provide some context to the URI tags that I am adding to the system. It would allow me to not only find URL's by tag that I am interested in but allow me to narrow the scope of that tag to users that are treating that tag in the same context. Thoughts? -matt ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Nitin Borwankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Clay on categories, links, and tags
Gen Kanai wrote: Anselm, Agreed. Would you say that Apple's Spotlight in OS X and Google Desktop are the first steps towards this kind of functionality in the future? On May 18, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Anselm Hook wrote: desktop operating system... I'm tired of clunky web interfaces that only manage one kind of thing. That it took del to break ground here is wonderful but... when is this stuff going to get into our desktops - and start to deal with the other qualifiers we use every day? I'd like to be able to set contraints like 'all things tagged blue, of this mime type, in this date range and authored while I was in france' etc. I'd like this to be the primary way I order _all_ my stuff... not just a novelty for my bookmarks. It is so matter of fact and so simple that it is scarely worth mentioning... yet operating systems that do this are still not out yet. Gen, Anselm, I suspect that before this becomes ubiquitous at the OS layer, we'll see this done in some sort of lightweight fast *cross platform portable* application. Then I can use multiple versions of it, one on my iPod, one on my laptop, one on my desktop, one on each of my server apps on the 'net ( GMail, Yahoo ). I should be able to transparently exchange metadata across *all* the platforms I use and sync across all these. Searching for something on my iPod could suggest I go look on my desktop. Why not ? Why restrict the scope to just one machine. This issue of my tags existing in multiple places at multiple scales and the technical problems created, I call Data 2.0 i.e. data in the folksonomy/Web2.0 world. shameless plug See my blog at http://tagschema.com/ and the article therein titled Web 2.0 needs Data 2.0 /shameless plug As sexy as Google Desktop and Spotlight are, they are still point solutions that don't encompass all my data - which exists on multiple devices, at multiple scales, in multiple locations and I need to be able to search across all of them transparently. OS specific solutions do not work in this context, IMHO. Nitin Borwankar. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
