Re: yojimbo-module

2007-05-25 Thread Sebastian Stark


Hi Niels,

On 24.05.2007, at 23:17, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:


Hi!

Kerris last mail reminded me of the Yojimbo-module for Quicksilver.  
And I just tried to do a Command window with selection and add  
to yojimbo but I can't use Add to Yojimbo for a selected Finder- 
item; any idea what could fix that. And where can I ask for feature  
requests for the Quicksilver-module - here?


For me it works to select something in the Finder (file or folder)  
and the type command-Esc, which I think is a predefined trigger for  
command window with selection*. This pulls the current selection  
into quicksilver and gives me the ability to select add to yojimbo  
as the action.


The _nice_ thing about this is that this actually adds a bookmark  
that points to the file or folder. Perfect!


I would like to do the following: selct a pdf in Finder, Command  
window with selection (it's a QS-trigger in my case), tab, add to  
yojimbo, tab, add yojimbo-tags, tab, tags, enter (import to yojimbo  
with the tags))


Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. You can not manage yojimbo  
tags from withing quicksilver, as far as I know.



Sebastian

* you first need to disable the frontrow shortcut obviously


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Re: yojimbo-module

2007-05-25 Thread Sebastian Stark


On 25.05.2007, at 09:25, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
The _nice_ thing about this is that this actually adds a bookmark  
that points to the file or folder. Perfect!


That's not really perfect for me - the great advantage for me in  
Yojimbo in comparison to stuff like Devonthink is that it syncs the  
stuff in your library.

Add to Yojimbo creates a bookmark - not very useful for local stuff.


Good point, personally I never used .mac sync. This would require me  
to 1) buy a .mac account and 2) buy another yojimbo license. I don't  
believe in the put EVERYTHING, including files, into your personal  
information manager strategy. In the end you find yourself misusing  
yojimbo as a file manager. On the other hand, it would certainly be  
nice to put SOME files into it from time to time.


btw., I think the archive to yojimbo is meant for URLs. At least it  
works with URLs.


Archive in Yojimbo seems not to function with PDFs (at least  
nothing happens)


I would like to do the following: selct a pdf in Finder, Command  
window with selection (it's a QS-trigger in my case), tab, add  
to yojimbo, tab, add yojimbo-tags, tab, tags, enter (import to  
yojimbo with the tags))


Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. You can not manage  
yojimbo tags from withing quicksilver, as far as I know.


And it would be great to do that.
I try to learn now AppleScript for trying to write an action via a  
script that will archive a pdf in yojimbo and which will present  
you a dialog for adding tags like the  
netnewswire_to_pukka_and_yojimbo-script does.


Let me know whan I can beta test :)
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Re: yojimbo-module

2007-05-25 Thread Sebastian Stark


On 25.05.2007, at 09:25, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:



Kerris last mail reminded me of the Yojimbo-module for  
Quicksilver. And I just tried to do a Command window with  
selection and add to yojimbo but I can't use Add to Yojimbo  
for a selected Finder-item; any idea what could fix that. And  
where can I ask for feature requests for the Quicksilver-module -  
here?


For me it works to select something in the Finder (file or folder)  
and the type command-Esc, which I think is a predefined trigger  
for command window with selection*. This pulls the current  
selection into quicksilver and gives me the ability to select add  
to yojimbo as the action.


cmd+esc doesn't work when you have FrontRow enabled - just disabled  
it and it seems that cmd+esc is different to the QS-trigger  
Command window with selection.

If I use cmd+esc I can use the yojimbo-triggers.


Hello again,

Just noticed: It's a real pity you can not drag non-text files or  
folders from Finder into the Yojimbo drop dock. It would be very  
convenient if you could add bookmarks to files or folders by dragging  
them into the drop dock. And since part of this functionality is  
already there it shouldn't be too hard to do.


And how does Yojimbo decide wether a file dragged into the dock is  
actually containing text? Seems like it's looking at the extension,  
because I can not do this with .css files.



Sebastian
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Re: yojimbo-module

2007-05-25 Thread infrahile
…you don't need an additional Yojimbo license. All flavors of  
Yojimbo license we sell allow use on multiple machines.



You'd never make it as a Used Car Salesman. ;o)

T.
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Re: yojimbo-module

2007-05-25 Thread Steve Kalkwarf
Good point, personally I never used .mac sync. This would 
require me to 1) buy a .mac account and 2) buy another yojimbo license.


While the .Mac requirement is true, you don't need an additional 
Yojimbo license. All flavors of Yojimbo license we sell allow 
use on multiple machines.


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Re: Folders/Tag-collections

2007-05-25 Thread Kenneth Kirksey

Some of the comments in this thread have been along the lines of
Well I can find what I'm looking for amongst my 200 Bajillion items
in moments - and, look Ma, no collections, ain't I grand. Well,
great for you, but there are other ways of reviewing data than
knowing what you want and extracting it with aplomb from a big messy
pile. There is a very good reason why this is useful and why
organising these collections better would be even more useful�  
Browsing.




The scene: A man storms angrily into a hardware store, carrying a  
hammer in one hand an a screw in the other. He stomps up to the  
customer service desk and proceeds to give the clerk a good tongue  
lashing.


Man: This hammer you sold me isn't fully featured! It doesn't do what  
I want a hammer to do!


Clerk: (looking perplexed) What doesn't it do?

Man: It won't drive this (holds up philips head screw) into wood!  
Where do you get off selling me a hammer that doesn't do everything I  
want it to do!


Clerk: (looking even more perplexed). Sir, hammers are for driving  
nails, not screws. We've got nails if you'd like to use your hammer,  
or we can sell you a screwdriver to use with your screws. There are  
plenty of options, but you can't drive a screw with a hammer.


Man: Dammit, I don't want nails or a screwdriver! I want to drive  
these screws with this hammer! What's wrong with you people! How do  
you even keep customers? If a customer wants a hammer that will drive  
screws, then dammit, you give them a hammer that will drive screws! I  
don't care what the hammer was designed to do, I want it to do what I  
WANT IT TO DO!


Clerk: (now afraid that he's talking to a bat-s**t crazy lunatic)  
Sir, the manager's office is right over that way...


:)
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Re: yojimbo-module

2007-05-25 Thread Sebastian Stark


On 25.05.2007, at 15:42, infrahile wrote:

…you don't need an additional Yojimbo license. All flavors of  
Yojimbo license we sell allow use on multiple machines.



You'd never make it as a Used Car Salesman. ;o)


Given that I do not own a single Yojimbo license yet (I'm still in  
demo mode) he actually did his best to convince me of a purchase :)

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Re: Folders/Tag-collections

2007-05-25 Thread infrahile

All very amusing, but not a fair analogy in any way…

This is not a request for a new or wildly unrelated feature, I  
already use YJ for browsing, it forms the majority of the way I use  
it and it does so pretty well. Features such as collections and tag- 
collections exist already and have nothing to do with searching,  
they're all about helping the user focus on a subsection of their  
data. This is just a request for a simple enhancement to make the use  
of an established feature more friendly and useful.


If you check the YJ website promo blurb you'll find this listed as a  
highlight…


Organize your information any way that suits your style, from  
“everything in one spot” to “organized to the extreme”


…and elsewhere…

Collections provide a rich and sophisticated method of organizing  
the information you store in Yojimbo. Whether you use the built-in  
Smart Collections or create your own, Yojimbo works with you.


…to my mind any way that suits your style and Yojimbo works with  
you indicates that supporting more than one data management  
methodology is an implicit feature, there is nothing there to  
indicate that the sole purpose of YJ is to tag and search. Indeed,  
organised to the extreme would seem to suggest the opposite is  
equally supported.


So to return to your analogy - that hammer was sold to me on the  
understanding that it supports driving screws into wood, I'm pretty  
happy with the way it does this but I have some suggestions to make  
it better. Is that so unreasonable?


T.





On 25 May 2007, at 15:15, Kenneth Kirksey wrote:


Some of the comments in this thread have been along the lines of
Well I can find what I'm looking for amongst my 200 Bajillion items
in moments - and, look Ma, no collections, ain't I grand. Well,
great for you, but there are other ways of reviewing data than
knowing what you want and extracting it with aplomb from a big messy
pile. There is a very good reason why this is useful and why
organising these collections better would be even more useful�  
Browsing.




The scene: A man storms angrily into a hardware store, carrying a  
hammer in one hand an a screw in the other. He stomps up to the  
customer service desk and proceeds to give the clerk a good tongue  
lashing.


Man: This hammer you sold me isn't fully featured! It doesn't do  
what I want a hammer to do!


Clerk: (looking perplexed) What doesn't it do?

Man: It won't drive this (holds up philips head screw) into wood!  
Where do you get off selling me a hammer that doesn't do everything  
I want it to do!


Clerk: (looking even more perplexed). Sir, hammers are for driving  
nails, not screws. We've got nails if you'd like to use your  
hammer, or we can sell you a screwdriver to use with your screws.  
There are plenty of options, but you can't drive a screw with a  
hammer.


Man: Dammit, I don't want nails or a screwdriver! I want to drive  
these screws with this hammer! What's wrong with you people! How do  
you even keep customers? If a customer wants a hammer that will  
drive screws, then dammit, you give them a hammer that will drive  
screws! I don't care what the hammer was designed to do, I want it  
to do what I WANT IT TO DO!


Clerk: (now afraid that he's talking to a bat-s**t crazy lunatic)  
Sir, the manager's office is right over that way...


:)
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Re: yojimbo-module

2007-05-25 Thread infrahile
…you don't need an additional Yojimbo license. All flavors of  
Yojimbo license we sell allow use on multiple machines.



You'd never make it as a Used Car Salesman. ;o)


Given that I do not own a single Yojimbo license yet (I'm still in  
demo mode) he actually did his best to convince me of a purchase :)

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Touché!

;o)
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Flag item

2007-05-25 Thread infrahile

Another minor feature request…

I've recently switched to using YJ in two-pane mode (no preview area)  
and opening items in new windows (allowing me to keep the Library on  
my MBP screen to one side of my main 20 where I view the items in  
individual windows, in case you're curious why!) I also use the Flag  
feature and the 'Flagged items' smart collection as a quick reference  
for currently important stuff. Which brings me to the request… it'd  
be great to add to the individual item window toolbar a 'Flag' button  
- via the 'Customise toolbar' feature. At the moment I can find no  
way to do this from anywhere other than the Library window and even  
the menu entry in 'Item' has 'Mark as Flagged' greyed out for  
individual item windows.



Cheers,
T.

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Re: Folders/Tag-collections

2007-05-25 Thread Jim DeVona

On 5/25/07, Kenneth Kirksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Man: This hammer you sold me isn't fully featured! It doesn't do what
I want a hammer to do!

Clerk: (looking perplexed) What doesn't it do?

Man: It won't drive this (holds up philips head screw) into wood!
Where do you get off selling me a hammer that doesn't do everything I
want it to do!


I have to admit, I find the allusion apt!

I currently have 9 tag collections and 809 items in my library. I use
Yojimbo to manage all sorts of loosely related odds and ends, but I
use folders (in the Finder) to organize more structured projects.
(Like a Rolodex and a filing cabinet, to belabor the traditional
desktop metaphor.) I certainly recognize that people work in different
ways, though.

Jim

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PDF Display

2007-05-25 Thread infrahile

Here's another request, I'm on a roll…

PDF's: maybe I've missed a feature, but it seems there is no way  
currently to view the list of pages in a PDF document. Maybe the  
Acrobat 8 way of displaying page thumbnails down the side of the  
background area would work well - I'm not a developer so I have no  
idea how easy/hard this is, but I'm frequently frustrated with long  
PDF documents if I can't scan through a list of page thumbnails,  
adding this feature would be a positive boon!


I'll pre-empt the inevitable; no, searching won't help - may of the  
documents I'm referring to are very visual, such as design guidelines  
documents, design concepts, etc. which are often image-only or  
largely image based. A quick visual reference would really improve  
the usefulness of PDF's in YJ, for this user at least.



Cheers,
T.
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