[Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
---Ah, better question. Yes you can practice Zen without offically becoming a Buddhist. but I wouldn't get so stuck on the semantics. I am a budhist, I'm not a Buddhist; eh, makes no difference to the path. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike and Guy, Thank you for your responses. Let me ask this question a different way: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If no, why? If not, why? Thanks...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote: The heart of the subject is the same. anatmanwave anatmanwave@ wrote: ---Same thing, Zen comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it from India. Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote: What is the relationship, if any, between zen and buddhism? - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
From: anatmanwave Yes you can practice Zen without offically becoming a Buddhist. Don't forget to send me your $5 donation for the I AM A BUDDHIST membership card. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
Or maybe the raft fee is $5? Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: anatmanwave Yes you can practice Zen without offically becoming a Buddhist. Don't forget to send me your $5 donation for the I AM A BUDDHIST membership card. - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good
Re: [Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
Let me amend that - a raft disposal collection fee. Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: anatmanwave Yes you can practice Zen without offically becoming a Buddhist. Don't forget to send me your $5 donation for the I AM A BUDDHIST membership card. - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good
Re: [Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
The heart of the subject is the same. anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Same thing, Zen comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it from India. Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the relationship, if any, between zen and buddhism? - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good
[Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
Mike and Guy, Thank you for your responses. Let me ask this question a different way: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If no, why? If not, why? Thanks...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The heart of the subject is the same. anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Same thing, Zen comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it from India. Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote: What is the relationship, if any, between zen and buddhism? - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
Ooops! That was not a TRICK question. I meant to ask: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If NO, why? If YES, why? ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike and Guy, Thank you for your responses. Let me ask this question a different way: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If no, why? If not, why? Thanks...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote: The heart of the subject is the same. anatmanwave anatmanwave@ wrote: ---Same thing, Zen comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it from India. Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote: What is the relationship, if any, between zen and buddhism? - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
I think one can practice Zen without being a Buddhist because Zen is a philosophy and not a religion. All one has to do is sit... - Original Message From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:31:26 PM Subject: [Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor Mike and Guy, Thank you for your responses. Let me ask this question a different way: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If no, why? If not, why? Thanks...Bill! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote: The heart of the subject is the same. anatmanwave anatmanwave@ ... wrote: ---Same thing, Zen comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it from India. Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same. Guy In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote: What is the relationship, if any, between zen and buddhism? - - --- Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor
Hi Bill! (nice to see they let you out on weekends) It's still a trick question of sorts (whether intentional or not) because ultimately it will lead to a pardox (zen and buddhism are the same, but not). In that sense, I believe zen is different because zen goes beyond the question and brings us back to our ground of being where the question need not even be asked. That was the problem the Chinese had with the Indian form of Buddhism resulting in a more direct form of buddhism. Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops! That was not a TRICK question. I meant to ask: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If NO, why? If YES, why? ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike and Guy, Thank you for your responses. Let me ask this question a different way: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If no, why? If not, why? Thanks...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote: The heart of the subject is the same. anatmanwave anatmanwave@ wrote: ---Same thing, Zen comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it from India. Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote: What is the relationship, if any, between zen and buddhism? - Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good - Sent from Yahoo! #45; a smarter inbox.