[ZESTCaste] Private or public? (Opinion) (this writer does not even bother to put low caste in inverted commas in this piece!)

2005-08-21 Thread Tarun Udwala
http://www.newstodaynet.com/20aug/rf18.htm
 
Private or public?
Nobody, it seems, can beat Dr S Ramadoss when it comes to rhetorics. He 
is taking his self-appointed role of being the guardian of education in 
Tamilnadu so seriously that he is coming up with bizarre statements on the 
recent pronouncements of the Supreme Court on quotas in private colleges. 
This column had very recently explained how difficult it is to find 
fault with the Supreme Court's verdict. The logic is pretty simple: How can the 
government dictate terms to private colleges? It can put in place broad 
guidelines for overall running of colleges, but it has no right get into the 
business of reserved quotas in private institutions. 
But Ramadoss doesn't think so. In fact, he asserts it is erroneous to 
call these colleges as self-financing private institutions. 'How can you call 
them private colleges when they are getting fees from the public,' he asked at 
a meeting in the city yesterday. 
How ingenious! Socrates would be proud of this logical deduction. 
Anybody who gets money from public for whatever they offer cannot be private. 
So a restaurant or a dress shop, that obviously runs on public patronage, by 
the dint of Ramadoss's assiduously thought-out logic, will henceforth be a 
public enterprise. And if the Left parties also agree to his views, they can 
even become a PSU. 
The problem with these bleeding-heart politicos is that they have been 
so used to giving things from others pockets that they can't stomach the fact 
that they no longer can do so. 
If the political parties are so keen to ensure reservations for the 
downtrodden, then why can't they come up with institutions specifically for the 
purpose. In fact, that should be most logical thing to do. 
If you want to feed a hungry person, you should either cook him food or 
give him money to buy some. You can't order others to provide food. 
But that is what Ramadoss wants now. 
When Dr. Ambedkar raised the demand for reservation of jobs for Dalits, 
he probably never visualised that the issue would one day be deplorably 
exploited by politicians just to boost their vote banks. It was the cruelties 
that he had seen inflicted on Dalits that had motivated him to fight for their 
cause. In fact, he dropped the issue of a separate electorate for low-caste 
Hindus when the Congress Party acceded to his demand of reservation. 
Politicians play the game of reservations for ulterior gain and would 
not mind dividing the whole of society in the name of the quota system. 
The time has now come to ponder over the question of reservation and 
whether it is an effective policy to help the lot of the downtrodden classes or 
those living below the poverty line. 
The confusion over what is private and public is the least one would 
want in the circumstance. 
But who can stop Ramadoss? 
 






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[ZESTCaste] Fwd: [invitesplus] 80 per cent of SC/ST vacancies to be filled

2005-08-21 Thread Goldy George
Sorry for cross-posting

This is a kind of confession by the PM.. Please go through this.
Goldy

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80 per cent of SC/ST vacancies to be filled 

Special Correspondent
the hindu
http://www.hindu.com/2005/08/19/stories/2005081921140100.htm

NEW DELHI: In the first such interaction of this kind since
1977,Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Thursday told members of the
Parliamentary Forum of Scheduled Caste/ Scheduled Tribe MPs that the
Government would ensure that at least 80 per cent of vacancies in the
SC/ST job quota within the Government set-up would be filled by the
end of this calendar year. Dr. Singh said market forces would not be
able to address the needs and aspirations of the weaker sections of
society. He told them that the Government had a role and obligation in
providing access to education and health care and there could be no
turning away from this reality.
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Creation of a casteless and peaceful society is indeed the first step towards 
just, egalitarian, and harmonious society. A society of equals, neither unequal 
nor more-equals, beyond the strings of caste, class, gender, race, etc. 
Otherwise it would lead to social oppression, political exploitation, economic 
deprivation, cultural domination, gender discrimination, class isolation, 
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Re: [ZESTCaste] Dalit, tribal people plan stir

2005-08-21 Thread prakash raghavan
Dalit Consciousness and its perspective on the basis of PRDS History in Kerala


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The greatest spiritual upheaval that the world saw in the beginning of this 
century was staged in India, with the emergence of P.R.D.S. the defensive 
activities of ‘Keezhala People’ have been feathered in different parts of the 
world. But no where else, there took place on an organised spiritual uplift 
based on their history and culture. It was in Kerala, in India, that such an 
event was staged though it went unnoticed. This progressive movement was in the 
backup of the Renaissance  movement in India. Thus the Indian Renaissance 
deserved our special attention. Kerala has a history of Renaissance that his 
distinctive features of its own. These features make the Renaissance in Kerala 
differ from other areas in India. A unique peculiarism in Christianity-The 
activities of Christian Missionaries and the conversion among Dalit People. It 
happened in this background that the ‘Vaukunda Swami Movement’. Sree Narayana 
Movement’ the activities of Ayyankali and Vaikam Sathyagraha, took their
 origin, Religious conversions have directly or indirectly, influenced all 
renaissance movements. But it was P.R.D.S. alone that faced the identity crisis 
of conversion among the Dalit people. P.R.D.S. emerged as a spiritual movement. 
So it has been much misunderstood and misspelt in history. It has been greatly 
distorted and disturbed. In order to learn about the advent of P.R.D.S. 
history, it is essential that the history of Kerala and its democratical 
approach towards renaissance should be re-examined.

The period of history termed the Renaissance of India does not yield to 
prejudicial assessment. The leaders of Indian Renaissance like Raja Ram Mohan 
Roy and Dayananda Saraswathy stood against the Brahmin Supremacy in even 
aspect. Yet the Mahatma Jyothi Baphula, E. V. Rama Swami Naikar and Dr. 
Ambedkar belonged to another layer on level. This shows the conflicting nature 
of the renaissance and its streams. The call to return to the Vedas was given 
by Dayananda Saraswathy and Rajaram Mohan Roy Their idea was to reform Hindu 
religion. What actually happened was the spranging up at different levels of 
anticaste, non-brahmin movements. As a protest against high caste sway; the 
‘Sathaya Sodhaka Movement’, ‘Swabhimana Movement’ in Tamil Nadu, “Adhom 
Movement; in Punjab” , “Adi-Hindu Movement; in M. P., Nama Subhra Movement in 
Bengal and in Kerala, Sree Narayana, Ayyankali and P. R. D. S. movements sprang 
up Raja Ram Mohan Roy and Dayananda Saraswathy were not spokes men of the Bhakti
 Movement advocated by Tukaram, Ram Das and Kabeer. Yet what their movement 
reveals is the inherent weakness of the ‘Bhakthi Movement’. So What happened in 
India in the name of Renaissance was a Hindu Social reformation or a totality 
of Hindu culture.

But none other than Ayyankali, Ambedkar and P.R.D.S. movement suited the 
spiritual development and raise the and lead the defence of the Dalit people. 
Before the beginning of Ambedkar Movement (1924) other Dalit Movements and 
become prominent. They had come into being against the social reformatory views 
of the National Renaissance.

Kerala, in the last quarter of the 19th century presented in its acute form, 
the identity crisis faced by the Dalits in India. Kerala was comprised of three 
Kingdom (Travancore, Cochin and Malabar) Colonialism made this a period of 
conflicts. There conflicts were furthered by the activities of Christian 
Missionaries and the Conversions made by them with their aid and initiative, 
there broke out the “Channar Muttiny” 1829. This may be regarded as the first 
explosion of Renaissance. The Channars/Ezhavas were the people to climb up palm 
trees for toddy tapping. “Vaikunda Swami Movement” was an active movement among 
them at that time. This was in Southern Travancore.

We have to bear in mind that the complicated caste system in Kerala was 
strikingly different from that the caste system anywhere else in India. The 
Renaissance movements in Kerala are to be viewed in this society was divided 
into different compartments. The Nampoothiris (native brahmins), Brahmins from 
outside, Kshatriyas, Nair’s the temple folk. Tamil Vellalas, Chettys, Konginis, 
Syrian Christians, Muslims belonged to the upper strata. Ezhavas, Channans, 
Parayas, Pulayas, Kuravas and the like were of the lower strata. The Nairs 
among the upper classes were considered to be the agents of Brahmin supremacy. 
They were the combrador, caste (linked caste). In 1875, they formed 20% and 
constituted 60% among the land lords. There were about 14,700 Nairs in 

[ZESTCaste] 3-day National methodology workshop on Dalits' begins (News)

2005-08-21 Thread Tarun Udwala
http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnewsid=15306
 
3-day National methodology workshop on Dalits' begins 
Nagpur: The three-day National Methodology Workshop on 'Congregational 
empowerment for Dalit liberation' began here today.
The event was formally inaugurated by National Council of Churches in India 
(NCCI) general secretary Bishop D K Sahu.
Nearly 150 delegates from all over the country are participating in the 
workshop which would discuss various subjects concerning the growing woes of 
dalits and recommend as to how best to ensure the liberation of the oppressed 
in the country.
The workshop has been organised jointly by NCCI in Cooperation with the United 
Evangelical Lutheran Church in India (UELCI), The Church of North India (CNI) 
The Church of Sourch India (CSI) and the Integrated Rural Development of weaker 
sections in India (IRDWSI).
On the occasion, Bishop Sahu said oppression and discrimination of the dalits 
continued affecting access to education, mobility and employment.
He appealed to the dalits to raise their voice of protest and resistance in the 
light of such a precarious situation. Dalits should be empowered to get 
themselves organised in their struggle and liberated from socio-cultural 
oppression, he added. 







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[ZESTCaste] Bihar governor moots tribals' and Dalits' commission (News)

2005-08-21 Thread Tarun Udwala
http://in.news.yahoo.com/050821/43/5zsnq.html
 
Sunday August 21, 04:31 PM
Bihar governor moots tribals' and Dalits' commission
By Indo Asian News Service 
Patna, Aug 21 (IANS) Bihar Governor Buta Singh has proposed a state commission 
for scheduled castes and scheduled tribes to protect their rights and empower 
them even as opposition leaders rubbished this as a pre-poll gimmick. 

Officials said Sunday that Singh took this decision after he had gone through a 
gloomy World Bank report on the socio-economic conditions of Dalits and tribals 
in the state.

Sources said the proposal has been sent to the central law and company affairs 
ministry, and the commission will be formed only after the centre's approval. 

But like some other decisions taken by Singh since president's rule was imposed 
in the state in March, this latest decision has also drawn flak from opposition 
parties.

State Bharatiya Janata Party leader Giriraj Singh said Buta Singh's decision is 
a gimmick, coming just a few months ahead of the assembly polls. 

'It has nothing to do with improving the condition of Dalits and tribal people 
but is intended to fool them into voting for the Congress and its allies,' said 
Singh.

Janata Dal (United) leader Upendra Kushwaha also said the governor's move to 
form the commission smacks of politics rather than a genuine concern for the 
oppressed.

Dalits constitute around 15.7 per cent of the state's population of 83 million 
and tribals 0.9 percent.

A recent World Bank report 'Bihar: Towards a Development Strategy' stated that 
the scheduled castes and scheduled tribes in the state are likely to be around 
three times poorer than the upper castes, and appreciably poorer than other 
backward castes and Muslims.

The report says that per capita household expenditure and landownership of 
these two communities was significantly lower than that of other castes in both 
urban and rural areas in 1999-2000, and the gap has remained virtually 
unchanged since 1993-94.

It said that more than 70 percent of the head of households from the scheduled 
castes and scheduled tribes were illiterate in 1999-2000, as compared to about 
half from other social groups. 

Similarly, job opportunities for them tend to be restricted to low paid ones, 
as around 60 percent of them were engaged in agricultural labour, compared to 
only 30 percent in the case of other households.

The World Bank says the abject poverty in rural Bihar, where almost 87 percent 
of its population lives, is a result of low landholding among the people.

This has left 40 percent of the state's population below the poverty line, the 
report said. 

Land ownership is closely associated with poverty in rural areas, not just 
because it provides the main source of income, but also since it is seen as a 
means for economic and social opportunities.
 




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[ZESTCaste] Political parties criticise SC direction on Pvt. Colleges (News)

2005-08-21 Thread Tarun Udwala
http://www.indiadaily.com/breaking_news/43265.asp
 
Political parties criticise SC direction on Pvt. Colleges 
Aug. 21, 2005

The recent Supreme Court direction scrapping government quota, including 
reservation for SC/ST and OBC students in private colleges, today came under 
severe criticism with various parties describing it as an injustice to the 
backward classes. This direction is an injustice to Dalits and people of 
economically backward class. We will oppose this direction and urge the 
government to bring a new legislation for its reversal, said CPI secretary, D 
Raja. Addressing a public meeting held on the issue here, he said the matter of 
admission policy and fee structure cannot be left to the private colleges. 
CPI(M) leader, Nilotpal Basu, said the Supreme Court's direction stipulates 15 
per cent reservation for non-resident Indians (NRIs), while denying reservation 
for the actually deserving students. The Dalits and other backward classes 
should get reservation so that they can join the mainstream. But the Supreme 
Court direction denies reservation to them, while it gives reservation to
 NRIs, he said. He said all parties are unanimous on the point that this 
direction should be reversed. An all-party meeting is scheduled on August 23 at 
the residence of HRD, Minister Arjun Singh, to discuss the matter. JD (U) 
leader Sharad Yadav said the private educational institutions have turned into 
money-making agencies. Constitution makes provision for reservation for 
Dalits. The Supreme Court decision violates the rights conferred by the 
Constitution, Yadav said. National president of Indian Justice Party, Udit 
Raj, said the SC/ST and OBC students would lose out on 42,000 seats, which were 
earlier reserved for them in private professional colleges, as a result of the 
court's decision. 
 




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[ZESTCaste] SC diktat on admissions (Deccan Herald Forum)

2005-08-21 Thread Tarun Udwala
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/aug212005/dhforum.asp
DH Forum  
SC diktat on admissions
The recent Supreme Court verdict with respect to admissions in professional 
colleges has not appealed to many of our readers. It is against the poor 
favouring only the rich and the mighty, they say. But, it seems that Centre?s 
proposal to bring in a legislation has instigated many to dwell on judiciary, 
legislature power struggle. However, a handful of them say the apex court 
verdict has put a stop to confusion in the admission process.
Market forces dictate terms
We seem to be leaning completely towards a philosophy where market forces seize 
control and economic power alone will lay down the rules. People who were in 
charge of presenting the State?s case in the Supreme Court on behalf of the 
poor and the merited, failed miserably in doing their bit. Instead, they were 
dangling before an anxious, helpless populace, the pipe dream of opening new 
Medical Colleges by the dozen, as though they were roadside Darshinis! It is 
difficult to believe that if the case for the merited, economically backward 
and needy students had been presented effectively, the Supreme Court would have 
dismissed it.
K M Srinivasa Gowda
Purpose defeated
The SC judgement giving autonomy to unaided minority and non-minority private 
education institutes defeats the reservation policy introduced for admissions 
to educational institutions for the upliftment of the lower castes. The Supreme 
Court verdict has put future of thousands of students? future in the dark. Once 
again education will again be the property of the rich. 
It has been considered that rights of the private educational institutions are 
much more important than the right of access to education. This will leave 
higher education at the mercy of the market forces. Majority of the institutes/ 
professional colleges are owned by the politicians who are the first to flout 
rules and violate laws of the land.
Surendra P Bendigeri
Elitist bias
The Apex Court's verdict is unfortunate. The Supreme Court while upholding the 
right to private property has overlooked the avowed social objectives of 
education and the need to protect the poor. Most of these institutions claim 
minority status and quote Article 30(1) to do business of education as a 
profit-making commercial enterprise. 
The whole thrust of capitation fee institutions is that they sell the major 
chunk of seats for admission to the rural and city rich and leave a few seats 
for the vast majority of meritorious poor students. 
Now they will sell all the seats for the rich and the NRIs. This is elitism in 
the crude form.
Jacob Abraham
Oppose verdict
The credibility of Supreme Court is at stake today for the first time. Every 
citizen is bound to honour all pronouncements of this apex body. But 
unfortunately, this court has dealt a death blow to the very concept of ?social 
justice? by providing full freedom to private professional colleges to have 
their own procedures and policies in matters relating to admission, fee 
structure, etc.
We should oppose the verdict. All religious groups, caste groups, political 
parties, state govts and others have expressed their total opposition to the 
Supreme Court judgment. It will be really great if Supreme Court revises or 
withholds its most universally unpopular verdict before it is too late.
Mumtaz Ali Khan
Horrible
The Supreme Court is an assault on the students of a country which is still 
developing. Fifteen percent reservation for NRI quota is amazing. We feel this 
decision is totally unjustifiable and horrible. At this crucial moment, we are 
happy to know that our honourable prime minister Dr Manmohan Singh has promised 
to enact a centralised law.We are eagerly waiting for that.
Murlimanju B V
Find alternative
The best option would be to earmark majority of seats for the meritorious, with 
a sub-division for the socially backwards. There should be an ombudsman to 
watch the selection process and exercise of authority. 
U S Iyer
Start debate
The Supreme Court verdict has raised vital issues for debate by all sections of 
society. Since the verdict is applicable only from next academic year, it has 
given adequate time for the authorities to work out a solution satisfying all 
the stakeholders involved in professional education in the country. 
The Centre should encourage a debate among stake holders so that a consensus is 
reached and a comprehensive model bill is drafted and introduced in Parliament 
for debate and approval. 
R Ganesh
Review needed
For once, the SC verdict professing freedom to private professional colleges 
has assumed the proportion of a national debate. 
Promotion and protection of the interests of the students is of utmost 
importance in a developing country like India. The SC stand has gone against 
this principle.
Next, for ages, there has been an unending feud over the supremacy of the