Re: ZooKeeper community
Have you guys setup a zookeeper-private list for the zookeeper ppmc + hadoop pmc to have private discussions? If not, I highly recommend it since it would be the only practical viecel for the ppmc to nominate new commiters or raise sensitive issues the the pmc. Regards, HIram On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok good... as long as the PMC folks are participating it should not be a problem. Regards, Hiram On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Doug Cutting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiram Chirino wrote: looks like you guys are not in the PMC. Sorry about that. But it bring us a weird governance issue which is very anti Apahe.. usually an Apache project is self governed, but from the look of the authorization file, it seems like the zookeeper committers cannot properly self govern. It makes things like doing releases, adding new committers and pmc members much more complex since the PMC members are not actively working on the project. PMC members (like me) are expected to monitor the project. I don't moderate this list, but I'd be surprised if a few other PMC members are not also following it. We hope to eventually promote some of Zookeeper's committers to the Hadoop PMC. All seasoned committers should be on the PMC, but the Zookeeper folks are still relative newbies at Apache and none have made it there yet. To some degree the Hadoop PMC is incubating Zookeeper. Zookeeper's committers are like the PPMC. If things go well, as with all Hadoop committers, they'll be nominated to Hadoop's PMC. There'll be no formal graduation, just gradual maturation. If the community diverges sufficiently from Hadoop's, then it may someday make sense to promote Zookeeper to a TLP. Doug -- Regards, Hiram Blog: http://hiramchirino.com Open Source SOA http://open.iona.com -- Regards, Hiram Blog: http://hiramchirino.com Open Source SOA http://open.iona.com
ZooKeeper community
How big is the ZooKeeper developer community and what commercial associations do they have? -- Regards, Hiram Blog: http://hiramchirino.com Open Source SOA http://open.iona.com
Re: ZooKeeper community
Good question, according to the PoweredBy wiki not too much ;-) http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/ZooKeeper/PoweredBy (please update this if your company is using...) So far we have 5 committers (Ben, Andrew, Flavio, Mahadev and myself) and just a few contributors. There are a number of teams using ZK inside Yahoo, Veoh is using ZK (Ted Dunning gave a talk with Ben at the last Hadoop social), spinn3r, and it looks like IONA might have some interest. :-) http://hiramchirino.com/blog/index.html A number of people attending the last Hadoop social indicated that they are using or looking at ZK. Patrick Hiram Chirino wrote: How big is the ZooKeeper developer community and what commercial associations do they have?
Re: ZooKeeper community
So all the commiters are Yahoo folks? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question, according to the PoweredBy wiki not too much ;-) http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/ZooKeeper/PoweredBy (please update this if your company is using...) So far we have 5 committers (Ben, Andrew, Flavio, Mahadev and myself) and just a few contributors. There are a number of teams using ZK inside Yahoo, Veoh is using ZK (Ted Dunning gave a talk with Ben at the last Hadoop social), spinn3r, and it looks like IONA might have some interest. :-) http://hiramchirino.com/blog/index.html A number of people attending the last Hadoop social indicated that they are using or looking at ZK. Patrick Hiram Chirino wrote: How big is the ZooKeeper developer community and what commercial associations do they have? -- Regards, Hiram Blog: http://hiramchirino.com Open Source SOA http://open.iona.com
Re: ZooKeeper community
Yes, it's documented on the web site: http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/credits.html Patrick Hiram Chirino wrote: So all the commiters are Yahoo folks? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question, according to the PoweredBy wiki not too much ;-) http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/ZooKeeper/PoweredBy (please update this if your company is using...) So far we have 5 committers (Ben, Andrew, Flavio, Mahadev and myself) and just a few contributors. There are a number of teams using ZK inside Yahoo, Veoh is using ZK (Ted Dunning gave a talk with Ben at the last Hadoop social), spinn3r, and it looks like IONA might have some interest. :-) http://hiramchirino.com/blog/index.html A number of people attending the last Hadoop social indicated that they are using or looking at ZK. Patrick Hiram Chirino wrote: How big is the ZooKeeper developer community and what commercial associations do they have?
