Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
Hello, I'm one of the other people trying to get plan 9 on the same VPS host provider. I've gotten past that hang. Some haphazard print statements narrowed the hang down to the e820 init function in memory.c. So to work around, setting either *noe820scan=1 or *norealmode=1 in

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Jack
On 3/6/2011 8:09 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: Hello, I'm one of the other people trying to get plan 9 on the same VPS host provider. I've gotten past that hang. Some haphazard print statements narrowed the hang down to the e820 init function in memory.c. So to work around, setting either

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
I hadn't tried it. I was under the impression that 9atom was tried by the OP of this thread. My plan today is to go through with the install and see what happens. I'll try your 9load next to see if I can boot sans excess options. The support guy set up a cron job to update the floppy

Re: [9fans] realemu update

2011-03-06 Thread cinap_lenrek
yes, this started as 8i from russ. it was renamed to realemu after i made it into a fileserver providing /dev/realmode and /dev/realmodemem. this way i dont have to reimplement aux/vga's vesa code and it can be used as drop in replacement. (just start it before running aux/vga) mkfile is fixed

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
have you tried the 9load from 9atom? i moved the e820 scan to before 9load switches from real mode, which should be safer. ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/^(9pxeload 9load) - erik I hadn't tried it. I was under the impression that 9atom was tried by the OP of this thread. My plan

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
I did indeed ask them to configure 9atom.iso as the CD-ROM and got the same results as with plan9.iso. I trusted that the image was switched but I'm not sure how I could verify. i wasn't assuming that the two setups were identical. let me know if that's a bad assumption. if 9atom fails

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
I did indeed ask them to configure 9atom.iso as the CD-ROM and got the same results as with plan9.iso. I trusted that the image was switched but I'm not sure how I could verify. i wasn't assuming that the two setups were identical. let me know if that's a bad assumption. We're customers

[9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread Fernan Bolando
Hi all apparently mac os x turns off wifi when it decides to go low power. It can a happily recover most connections that do not require a steady flow of data. I have not tested it but I dont think it turns off wifi when torrent or ssh is connected to a host. Drawterm dies with a sysfatal error,

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
Is this how 9p currently behaves or is there some settings somewhere that will help prevent it? Is there a thread that have already discussed it's actually tcp that's timing out, not 9p. this is how almost all connection-based protocols behave. typically there are keep-alive packets set every

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:34:58 EST erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Is this how 9p currently behaves or is there some settings somewhere that will help prevent it? Is there a thread that have already discussed it's actually tcp that's timing out, not 9p. this is how almost

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
9atom's 9load prints %d e820 entries on boot. is that number 0? found 7 e8s0 entries Then it freezes. -sl

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Mar 6 22:33:33 EST 2011, stanley.lie...@gmail.com wrote: 9atom's 9load prints %d e820 entries on boot. is that number 0? found 7 e8s0 entries Then it freezes. it's not the e820 code, then. it's either falling over initializing the console, or it's falling over probing devices

Re: [9fans] recent plan9.iso on hosted kvm/qemu

2011-03-06 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Sun Mar 6 22:33:33 EST 2011, stanley.lie...@gmail.com wrote: 9atom's 9load prints %d e820 entries on boot. is that number 0? found 7 e8s0 entries Then it freezes. it's not the e820 code, then. it's either falling over initializing the console, or it's falling over probing

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:34:03 EST erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: there may be some controls determining how soon to turn off the wifi that may be of some help. You don't need to mess with the wifi. Just do $ sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive=0 This will

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
This setting works for ssh, xterm etc. between *BSD/Mac and I think Linux (Windows forcibly terminates everything when the link goes down -- there may be a setting to disable keepalives but I try not to know more about Windows). From RFC1122: 4.2.3.6 TCP Keep-Alives

Re: [9fans] realemu update

2011-03-06 Thread Lucio De Re
mkfile is fixed now. will install itself into /$objtype/bin/aux/realemu and install realemu (8) manpage. impovement on the manpage is welcome as my english is not so good :) Again, I'm delaying testing because I need to install a different video card in the available hardware, but I'm

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread ron minnich
I used to work with David Mills, back long ago. He was one of the original Internet Buzzards, a really great guy. One of the many things he invented was NTP. He would get pretty exercised about keep-alives. Felt that it was not the business of TCP to make these kinds of decisions. I can't

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 20:25:10 PST ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: I used to work with David Mills, back long ago. He was one of the original Internet Buzzards, a really great guy. One of the many things he invented was NTP. I wonder if he still owns a class B block of IP addresses :-) [A

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
He would get pretty exercised about keep-alives. Felt that it was not the business of TCP to make these kinds of decisions. I can't remember if he actually called them an abomination, but at the same time, one was left with the feeling that he might have. I'm sure he's called them worse than

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
I routinely leave ssh, xterm etc. alive for weeks on end and my macbookpro puts itself to sleep a few times a day! Even when I used to take my laptop to work, no connexion broke as long as avoided accidentally typing in the window (which would generate traffic). now that's robust. back to

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Mar 6 23:50:48 EST 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: He would get pretty exercised about keep-alives. Felt that it was not the business of TCP to make these kinds of decisions. I can't remember if he actually called them an abomination, but at the same time, one was left with the

Re: [9fans] drawterm dies when my mac book sleeps by 9p design?

2011-03-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:51:34 EST erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: back to the problem at hand, lets suppose that the mac doesn't generate keep alive traffic, and lets suppose that plan 9 doesn't either, it's going to be hard to come up with a drawterm setup that is useful and has