Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!

2014-11-19 Thread hiro
I recommend windows 98 for normal slacking off, but if you want to do real work rc scripting on 9front is quite nice. C might be easier in some cases, but sadly it never got necessary for me to use it regularly, so I never got proficient enough to use it much. I plan to though. Obviously webkit

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Mats Olsson
Hi dante! Thanks a lot! Now I have saved the script. Kind regards, Mats 2014-11-18 23:09 GMT+01:00, dante subscripti...@posteo.eu: Hi Mats, I posted it before; unfortunately the archive doesn't save the attached files. Here is the original post: http://9fans.net/archive/2014/08/78.

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
- Plan9: don't enable periodic snapshots in Fossil to avoid it getting corrupt This is no longer true, this long standing bug was fixed about a year ago. Can you remember where you saw the documentation saying snapshots where still broken? -Steve

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread dante
Dear Steve, I never knew that there was a known bug there: got my frist Plan9 this summer. I enabled snapshots on my Pi this summer and got a corrupt file system within hours. As I promised Richard, I'll try to reproduce the issue and post a bug report to this list. This looks to me as a

Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!

2014-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
is there anyone using plan9 as their only system for development activities? Not sure if this counts. I use plan9 at work though most of the code I write is for windows (server apps), Linux and embedded, so Plan9 becomes a glofified IDE for me. Having siad this it is an excellent IDE that is

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
I never knew that there was a known bug there: got my frist Plan9 this summer. I enabled snapshots on my Pi this summer and got a corrupt file system within hours. Ah, Thanks for the info. I wonder if this is more to do with flash card reliability and the pi than fossil and snapshots. I

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread dante
Hi Steve, how often do you snapshot? How large is the SD? I used a 32G SD with hourly snapshots, terminal server. I would sort of rule out the SD reliability. After reinstalling on the corrupt SD with snapshots off, no crashes for months of always-on. Thanks! Dante On 19.11.2014 11:18,

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread lucio
I have been running fossil with snapshots for a year or so now and not had a single crash. Is there an easy way to determine when a Fossil/Venti service was first deployed? I have a feeling my specific installation is a good few years old and I'm pretty sure any problem that may have arisen

[9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

2014-11-19 Thread Peter Hull
I've had some success setting up and using plan9 standalone and I have moved on to trying a networked configuration. Following the instructions I have set up a combined cpu/auth server, and a terminal booting with PXE. When I boot my terminal it asks for my username (no password) and starts

Re: [9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

2014-11-19 Thread erik quanstrom
When I boot my terminal it asks for my username (no password) and starts rio. I can then access my home directory as read-only. I then run 'cpu', which asks me for a password, and then I can write my files. is your file server in allow mode? or are you really booting a cpu server with

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Nov 19 00:36:36 EST 2014, skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: i'm a bit paranoid about ether frames jumping the switch somehow, but i guess that's as likely as local snooping while tftping the boot image that has the nvram with creds. your switch is really broken if it forwards ethernet

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Nov 19 01:07:43 EST 2014, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: i'm a bit paranoid about ether frames jumping the switch somehow, but i guess that's as likely as local snooping while tftping the boot image that has the nvram with creds. Well, if you're paranoid, then being able to write

Re: [9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

2014-11-19 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: is your file server in allow mode? or are you really booting a cpu server with nvram? The latter (I think) - the same system is the cpu, auth and file server. I've got bootfile=ether0!/386/9pcf nobootprompt=tcp in the

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:36 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: by the way, at one point i had a hacked up kernel which allowed me to mount a file server over the cec protocol. In what situation would this be useful? -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] DigiLand DL701Q quad core tablet

2014-11-19 Thread cigar562hfsp952fans
erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net writes: In short, it's an Arm Cortex A7 with 512MB DDR3, 8GB NAND flash, 7 touchscreen, uSD, uUSB AB (OTG), Bluetooth, GPS, and 802.11b/g/n. this will require a new kernel, and dealing with some new devices. sounds interesting, though. Yes, I figured

Re: [9fans] using plan9 as the only system!

2014-11-19 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
drawterm exports its local content to Plan 9 via the /mnt/term namespace; you don't have to have p9p. also, Go code is nearly always platform independent (with no cgo or syscall package). On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's important to point

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Quintile
I have 500gb hard disks, mirrored, for fossil and venti. I take ephemeral snapshots every 15 mins, kept for 7 days, and nightly archival snapshots kept forever. this has been running for just over 10 years. though not continuously I have the same setup at wok and at home Steve On 19 Nov

[9fans] Plan 9/ARM port wishlist: ODROID-U3 or XU3

2014-11-19 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
they're well made, priced right, and fast (e.g. compiling Go on linux on rpi is *very* slow when compared with older odroid-u2 with the same config).

Re: [9fans] Plan 9/ARM port wishlist: ODROID-U3 or XU3

2014-11-19 Thread minux
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: they're well made, priced right, and fast (e.g. compiling Go on linux on rpi is *very* slow when compared with older odroid-u2 with the same config). the problem is that samsung doesn't publish the datasheet for

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Bakul Shah
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:29:30 GMT Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: I can't think of any software fault that could wipe out so much of a disk, with no respect for partition boundaries (the dos partition in the first 64MB had not been mounted). But I also know too little about the

Re: [9fans] Plan 9/ARM port wishlist: ODROID-U3 or XU3

2014-11-19 Thread Steven Stallion
Interesting. Looks based on an Exynos. I've already started kernel support for this (I even have a booting kernel, though it is very much a work in progress). Work has been hectic this year, so I haven't had a chance to get back to it since February. I've posted the code online, though nothing is

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com writes: After a bit less than a year, the SD card suffered a catastrophic failure. When I say catastrophic, I mean I can't find any meaningful data anywhere in the first 120MB or so of /dev/sdM0/data ... just not-quite-random looking garbage. Could have

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
I can't speak for Erik's cec-as-nonet setup specifically, but I've wanted nonet (or an equivalent) many, many times. Networks are fast enough that tcp/ip overhead isn't really something that hurts in most cases, but it does exist. Also, I really want to exercise the cross-network parts of Plan

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Nov 19, 2014, at 5:36 , lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Is there an easy way to determine when a Fossil/Venti service was first deployed? I have a feeling my specific installation is a good few years old and I'm pretty sure any problem that may have arisen could not have been hard to fix.

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

2014-11-19 Thread lucio
Ask for /index instead of /storage. Each arena line will give you a created=xxx tag, where xxx is a timestamp. You could do an awk script to give you growth over time, if you like. I looked for that, but I must have managed to overlook these fields. Here is the first: Sat Jul 31