Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread Jens Staal
> > > On the actual thread topic, I guess Wio is cool. If it works as well as I > think it does, I shall have to improve my opinion of Wayland. > The developer of wio is the same that wrote sway (an i3-like Wayland compositor) and wlroots, which is now used by many projects. Sway is definitely a

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Fri, May 3, 2019, at 1:34 PM, hiro wrote: > a lot of us younger people have an intuitive understanding only of > newer hardware, and no idea about older bottlenecks, obvious back > then. Meanwhile, I have an intuitive understanding of older hardware and no idea about newer bottlenecks. And

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread Lucio De Re
On 5/3/19, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > i think you mean the devdraw lempel-ziv compressed images. font images > are just images really (on the memlayer below devdraw), and i also > tried to understand the compression code (the first i ever looked at), > but couldn't. > they did recommend to

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread hiro
also they repeatedly talked about the benefit of starting anew without unix compatibility: they truly had a good awareness of historic code cost. i guess i just don't always understand their decision process, i'm sure it was well thought out! perhaps sometimes they also did some more pragmatic

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread hiro
i think you mean the devdraw lempel-ziv compressed images. font images are just images really (on the memlayer below devdraw), and i also tried to understand the compression code (the first i ever looked at), but couldn't. they did recommend to read that original paper by lempel-ziv and i didn't -

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread Lucio De Re
In your defence, Hiro, I quite believe at least some of what you said. Plan 9 is superior, aesthetically, but not perfect and graphics is no exception. Which is unfortunate, because it is also a very difficult field that attracts mostly those who are prone to take short-cuts and apply pragmatic

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread hiro
actually i take that back, no thanks to skip, i meant dan!

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-03 Thread hiro
> It wasn't clear to me that there was a question, let alone a point, in that > word salad. thank you skip, that was very poetic, entertaining and so enlightening.