Re: [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas

2021-08-19 Thread unobe
Quoth Jack Johnson : > Anyone know if this project went anywhere? > > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412/lectures/L05_Purge_Proposal.pdf > > A Hellaphone revisit. Maybe e-mail davide+reception...@cs.cmu.edu , since it's one of his lectures? -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread ori
Quoth k...@a-b.xyz: > > I'd like to see people communicate and exchange ideas and/or code more > effectively but this will always remain in the hands of individuals > who decide how to socialise and what to work on. > I try to keep an eye open, and integrate patches that make sense. I've also

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-19 Thread Rob Pike
It is Russ Cox's code search suite: https://github.com/google/codesearch On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 5:02 AM wrote: > Quoth un...@cpan.org: > > Quoth Maurizio Boriani : > > > thanks a lot! But... what's csearch? > > > > Possibly > https://manpages.debian.org/testing/codesearch/csearch.1.en.html >

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
My e-mail client decided to mark this thread as read. I am glad it did. -- Aram Hăvărneanu -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9ef6430f3025e731-M19d5cd1a3c6215f93b235b39 Delivery options:

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-19 Thread unobe
Quoth un...@cpan.org: > Quoth Maurizio Boriani : > > thanks a lot! But... what's csearch? > > Possibly https://manpages.debian.org/testing/codesearch/csearch.1.en.html Igonre--the other post, mentioning the go package is more likely. -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: Git & Conventional Browsers (Was Re: [9fans] Software philosophy)

2021-08-19 Thread ori
Quoth un...@cpan.org: > Do you mean working on git repos that > use symbolic links Those also work on git9, though modifying the symlinks is not allowed. Symlinks are treated as copies. See the netsurf port for an example of this in practice. -- 9fans:

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-19 Thread unobe
Quoth Maurizio Boriani : > > Rob Pike writes: > > > % cat bin/cf > > #!/bin/sh > > > > csearch -n -f '\.go$' '^func (\([^)]+\) )?'$1'\(' > > thanks a lot! But... what's csearch? Possibly https://manpages.debian.org/testing/codesearch/csearch.1.en.html

Git & Conventional Browsers (Was Re: [9fans] Software philosophy)

2021-08-19 Thread unobe
Quoth Lucio De Re : > A transparent history of decisions in this matter would prevent losing > any interesting proposals - yes, we need better than Git, but Git is > painfully "enough" to start with, even if as I get more familiar with > Git I'm starting to believe, hopefully wrongly, that Plan 9

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread Eli Cohen
some of it for me is just nostalgia. there was always someone talking about "the world these days" though, I have to admit. ignorance sucks too but noticing anything is excruciatingly painful! I also had a vested interest in submitting patches "upstream" to see what I could learn from trying to do

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-19 Thread Gorka Guardiola
I am guessing: https://github.com/google/codesearch/blob/master/cmd/csearch/csearch.go On Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 13:44 Maurizio Boriani wrote: > > Rob Pike writes: > > > % cat bin/cf > > #!/bin/sh > > > > csearch -n -f '\.go$' '^func (\([^)]+\) )?'$1'\(' > > thanks a lot! But... what's csearch? >

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread hiro
> We have beef with the One Plan 9 idea. Or at least the all people I have > talked to about this topic. personally i have no beef with it. i'd be happy for everybody to upgrade to 9front. it's all open-source for a reason, would be a shame if nobody believes in their own fork...

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-19 Thread Maurizio Boriani
Rob Pike writes: > % cat bin/cf > #!/bin/sh > > csearch -n -f '\.go$' '^func (\([^)]+\) )?'$1'\(' thanks a lot! But... what's csearch? best, -- Maurizio Boriani GPG key: 0xCC0FBF8F -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread sirjofri
19.08.2021 12:56:02 k...@a-b.xyz: Quoth Lucio De Re : What seems to be harped upon by the vocal defenders of 9front, however, is this fictional idea that there is another community, let's call them "9legacy", that is attempting to subvert 9front's efforts to gain some kind of recognition in

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread kvik
Quoth Lucio De Re : > What seems to be harped upon by the vocal defenders of 9front, > however, is this fictional idea that there is another community, let's > call them "9legacy", that is attempting to subvert 9front's efforts to > gain some kind of recognition in the bigger picture. The core

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread Keith Gibbs
> On Aug 19, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: > > It is the pragmatic end of the Plan 9 spectrum, courtesy of Cinap who > clearly would be a Torvalds if Plan 9 had gained the traction of > Linux. > Oh please. You think Cinap is some sort of charismatic demogogue of 9front? Yeah… he’s not

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread Keith Gibbs
>> 3) the p9f website promotes links to the Plan 9 archive software (V1-V4), >> 9legacy as "Plan 9 with many useful patches", the RPi version and other >> Plan 9 resources. 9front is _never_ mentioned at all. It seems like they >> don't consider 9front as a Plan 9 system at all. >> > That is

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread sirjofri
19.08.2021 11:51:48 hiro <23h...@gmail.com>: Thank you for raising them. As I said up front, I am not a P9F member of any kind. But I know that its intentions are far less nefarious than of those who wittingly ascribe nefarious intentions to them. Can you prove that? what makes you

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread hiro
> Thank you for raising them. As I said up front, I am not a P9F member > of any kind. But I know that its intentions are far less nefarious > than of those who wittingly ascribe nefarious intentions to them. Can you prove that? what makes you competent to know without being a p9f member? >

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread hiro
... > would it not be better if the 9front community chose > to create a wikipedia entry for themselves? That said, if there was a > conspiracy, would the conspirators not have already wiped out 9front > from a wikipedia page over which they presumably have some level of > authority? the groups

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread sirjofri
19.08.2021 11:29:29 hiro <23h...@gmail.com>: anymore. Other dubious sources can be found on the 9front /who/ site about p9f, where they apparently stole resources from 9front/cat-v pages. Very suspicious somehow. that's because they lost the bell-labs server. else they could have "stolen"

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread hiro
> anymore. Other dubious sources can be found on the 9front /who/ site > about p9f, where they apparently stole resources from 9front/cat-v pages. > Very suspicious somehow. that's because they lost the bell-labs server. else they could have "stolen" it from their own machines. we mirrored all

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread Lucio De Re
On 8/19/21, sirjofri wrote: > Hello dear community, > > I've read through many things in this thread and just want to add some > two cents in a list format: > > 1) p9f (to my knowledge) never said anything about The One Plan 9. This > was afaik the idea of some other community member, and I never

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread hiro
> more that one is less adverse to pulling the out the whole engine to fix the > car and the other is more adverse i think the better comparison is that with our volkswagen we can actually drive. i know the bell-labs car radio won't even boot bec. you're using the wrong IDE port.

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread sirjofri
Hello dear community, I've read through many things in this thread and just want to add some two cents in a list format: 1) p9f (to my knowledge) never said anything about The One Plan 9. This was afaik the idea of some other community member, and I never heard any statement by p9f about

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-19 Thread igor
Quoth 6o205z...@sneakemail.com: > I had never heard of acme-lsp and LSP (except as a Microsoft internal > thing) until gabi mentioned it earlier in the thread.  I'm interesting > in playing with acme-lsp for C++.  Which LSP server do you use for C/C++ > (I see several listed at

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread Keith Gibbs
Hej Eli, I think, philosophically, there is a disconnect re: the status of 9front vs 9legacy by 9legacy folks. Even David suggested that 9legacy is “real” Plan 9, rather than a fork. Fundamentally this is semantics, but it leads to seeing them as fundamentally different things, when they