Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

For the sake of time I am going to just reply here after reading all of the existing thread On 5/10/24 03:17, Lucio De Re wrote: >> why don't you just let 9legacy die? > > You are not paying attention: I have a multi-gigabyte commitment to Fossil. I > am not convinced *I* could "just port"

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

I guess we're on the same page, right up and including the fist fight(s). But I think we are all entitled to be treated more courteously in a public forum such as this, including not ascribing malice unless it is explicit. Being touchy has plagued this forum just about forever, it would be nicer

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

On 5/10/24 05:58, Richard Miller wrote: >> From: o...@eigenstate.org >> ... >> keep in mind that it can literally be brute forced in an >> afternoon by a teenager; even a gpu isn't needed to do >> this in a reasonable amount of time. > > [citation needed] > Two people have independently broken

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

> > What I notice - correct me if I am mistaken - is that any comparison between > 9front and 9legacy seems to needle a few members (very few, there are many > names from that community that have not participated, specifically the ones I > know hand have long respectes, ask them) of the 9front

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

Most certainly not. I called him Jacob in my first response, but that was followed by someone using the surname and I thought I had originally got the surname wrong, probably by reading it wrong in the incoming message. I did consider being wrong, but I thought someone would correct me. Now you

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

On Fri May 10 13:55:58 +0200 2024, lucio.d...@gmail.com wrote: > I am not allowed to ignore some advice when Vic raises a much more > interesting subject matter and does it in a perfectly justified and well > formulated fashion - and gets accused of being an AI or at minimum playing > one on

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

Out of curiosity regarding your problem at hand Lucio : You could use 9vx on 9legacy to establish a connection directly. You said you have an optical drive on your old machine so why don't you just use the 9legacy CD ROM ? You could also put your drive in an external hd case and access it

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

His name is Moody, you keep spelling it differently in what I can only assume is a passive aggressive way to insult him? — thedæmon On Friday, May 10th, 2024 at 6:53 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: > I am not allowed to ignore some advice when Vic raises a much more > interesting subject matter and

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

Just to be clear, I have nothing against getting aid from an AI in expanding ideas. I just recognised the verbose style. Got nothing to reply on the content Il 10 maggio 2024 13:53:56 CEST, Lucio De Re ha scritto: >formulated fashion - and gets accused of being an AI or at minimum playing

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

I am not allowed to ignore some advice when Vic raises a much more interesting subject matter and does it in a perfectly justified and well formulated fashion - and gets accused of being an AI or at minimum playing one on 9fans? How do you know that I did not follow any of Moodley's advice, which

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

> From: o...@eigenstate.org > ... > keep in mind that it can literally be brute forced in an > afternoon by a teenager; even a gpu isn't needed to do > this in a reasonable amount of time. [citation needed] -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

On Fri May 10 11:09:32 +0200 2024, lucio.d...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm finding it ironic, though, that the defenders of the true 9front faith > find it necessary to insult their "enemies" in a forum dedicated to the > very subject matter they are so disapproving of. Surely they realise that > 9fans

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

Vic, > I'm exploring whether there's interest in more collaboration. It would be beneficial to focus on critiquing ideas rather than individuals. The assertion of one's individuality and superiority is generational; what the proponents of that attitude are missing is that it is also a

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

Granted, but neither 9front nor 9legacy are tied to any promise of support. All it took in the past was to include an indication in the /sys/src/cmd/mkfile that the code for Fossil should not be compiled and deployed as part of any installation. By omitting the sources, as I explained, it denied

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

Thanks! I’ve been practicing my impersonation. Want to hear my human impression next? The goal of writing is to articulate ideas in a clear and comprehensive manner. If I were unclear, I apologize. I realize that reading a lengthy post can be a bit demanding on your time. Thank you for your

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

> > (if it was all that easy, why was it discarded entirely? I suspect no-one wanted to maintain it (in 9front). > Permalink > > -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

> why don't you just let 9legacy die? You are not paying attention: I have a multi-gigabyte commitment to Fossil. I am not convinced *I* could "just port" Fossil to 9front (if it was all that easy, why was it discarded entirely?) and I don't have the hardware to migrate the data to a different

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

Is it just me noticing this is chatgpt? Il 10 maggio 2024 06:44:48 CEST, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm ha scritto: >Hi Hiro et al, > >I view Plan 9 4th Edition as a version that remains largely unchanged, serving >as a snapshot in time, while 9legacy represents an active, distinct >distribution.