Re: [9fans] Sad news.

2020-09-30 Thread Christopher Nielsen
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Re: [9fans] Jim McKie

2020-06-24 Thread Christopher Nielsen
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Re: [9fans] PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)

2018-10-08 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:15 Bakul Shah wrote: > On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:03:49 -0400 Dan Cross wrote: > > > > plan9 is breathtakingly elegant, but this is in no small part because as > a > > research system it had the luxury of simply ignoring many thorny problems > > that would have marred that

Re: [9fans] Dragan

2016-02-11 Thread Christopher Nielsen
ee <prof.bru...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Anyone played with a Dragan? >>> >> >> -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Re: [9fans] Plan9 Sources Repository

2014-07-19 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Jul 19, 2014 1:17 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: [snip] - having an SSH2 server (there is one in 9atom, but I didn't see it in the stock Plan9). Are you sure it doesn't have the Heartbleed? i'm sure it doesn't have heartbleed. code for that sort of renegotiation

Re: [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status)

2013-12-02 Thread Christopher Nielsen
that I've provided to David du Colombier. My Plan 9 install needs a little love, but it's almost ready for full-time dev. I have some spare cycles to work on the port, too. I feel strongly that we can get the port in shape by the March 1 deadline. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-09 Thread Christopher Nielsen
currently using. nice work on the hardware support. when i have a decent dev and test environment setup, i'll see if i can figure out what's going on with vmware. thanks for all the help and guidance. i'll keep you posted. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary

[9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
to get it working. I am trying to setup a go dev environment and need 9atom for python 2.7. I'll keep plugging away at it, and if I find something that works, I'll share it. Thanks! -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
Thanks, Matthew. I'll add it to my list of options test. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/06/13 15:33, Christopher Nielsen wrote: This seems to be a regular question, but there is very little to no useful or current information available, so I

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
I said go dev. Thanks! On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using 9front (cpu/auth/cwfs) in vmware for almost a year with no problems. It even supports hda-intel sound. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
know, due to ape changes, 9atom is the only python 2.7 option. jeff, do you have a document outlining how to bootstrap python 2.7? That was my understanding. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
is severely lacking and doesn't agree with what's in 9atom's sdata.c. It's a starting point, though. Does that help? can you just set it up to do ahci? - erik -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Christopher Nielsen cniel...@pobox.com wrote: Sadly, no. That would have been my first choice, if it were an option. I know ahci works great in 9atom. I'll give virtualbox a whirl. You

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: Sadly, no. Why not? VMware does AHCI just fine. Huh. Maybe I missed a setting somewhere. I'll have another look. Thanks! -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-07 Thread Christopher Nielsen
. Don't get me wrong, I am all for sharing code but its to authors right to decide not to share if they wish. -Steve -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must

[9fans] Plan 9 Go 386

2013-05-23 Thread Christopher Nielsen
be happening, your help would be greatly appreciated. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson

Re: [9fans] Google IO

2013-04-20 Thread Christopher Nielsen
I wasn't able to get tickets, but I live in SF and would love to meet up with other 9fans for a beer. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time

[9fans] Go Plan9 ARM Dreamplug

2013-04-15 Thread Christopher Nielsen
/subr.5 /usr/bootes/src/go-plan9-arm/src/cmd/gc/subr.c: '/usr/bootes/src/go-plan9-arm/src/cmd/gc/opnames.h' does not exist -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must

Re: [9fans] Go Plan9 ARM Dreamplug

2013-04-15 Thread Christopher Nielsen
and python did you install? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Christopher Nielsen cniel...@pobox.com wrote: After a little work, I have a Plan 9 dev environment setup. My dreamplug boots with no problems, and after installing python and mercurial, I was able to clone the go repo. The build

Re: [9fans] Go Plan9 ARM Dreamplug

2013-04-15 Thread Christopher Nielsen
with 5c. It cannot switch on vlong. As a stopgap, you can change the types of the things being switched on to integer (type, if I remember right). G. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Christopher Nielsen cniel...@pobox.comwrote: After a little work, I have a Plan 9 dev environment setup. My

Re: [9fans] Go Plan9 ARM Dreamplug

2013-04-15 Thread Christopher Nielsen
I saw the same problem and solved it by setting GOEXPERIMENT=. Not sure that's the correct solution, but it worked. I will look at it in more detail tomorrow, if I have time. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety

Re: [9fans] Go (again) on plan9/arm

2013-04-10 Thread Christopher Nielsen
I have a dreamplug I've been meaning to put Plan 9 on. I should have time this week to get that done for testing. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must be refreshed from

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-22 Thread Christopher Nielsen
this recently, and it really resonated: http://www.lindsredding.com/2012/03/11/a-overdue-lesson-in-perspective/ - Dan C. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty

Re: [9fans] 8c and elf shared libraries

2012-07-17 Thread Christopher Nielsen
on the NetBSD port and had to spelunk the linker, I believe that to be true. Russ would be the better authority, though. The ?c compilers included with Go are derivatives of Inferno's ?c compilers. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty

Re: [9fans] make out?

2011-12-02 Thread Christopher Nielsen
they did that in the C library.  fecking eeegits. Having had to (grudgingly) deal with ant, I would say that it is definitely not the solution. Ant uses XML for its syntax. I think that says it all. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve

Re: [9fans] nanosleep()?

2011-10-29 Thread Christopher Nielsen
, since no other system is using those. I was discussing with Ron the fact that in the longer term goinstall ought to supersede both gmake (at last!) and mk, in building Go. I guess it needs to deal with situations like the present one kind of a priori. ++L -- Christopher Nielsen

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-16 Thread Christopher Nielsen
-rotting.  If it hasn't been removed yet, it sure runs the risk of being removed before long. FWIW, someone is working on a Plan 9 port of Go. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty

Re: [9fans] comment and newline in define

2010-06-26 Thread Christopher Nielsen
. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots tyrants. --Thomas Jefferson

Re: [9fans] Go/Inferno toolchain (Was: comment and newline in define)

2010-06-26 Thread Christopher Nielsen
them up, and share them, if someone wants to work on the toolchains for other targets. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood

Re: [9fans] comment and newline in define

2010-06-25 Thread Christopher Nielsen
The [568]c compilers in the Go tree are based on the Inferno/Plan 9 compilers. Did something change? On Jun 25, 2010 8:47 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: In /sys/src/cmd/cc/macbody:298,301 if(c == '\n') { yyerror(comment and newline in define: %s, s-name);

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
comfortably. LA isn't attractive because everything is spread out. However, there are reasonable and inexpensive accommodations within walking distance. And LA also has the advantage of an easy-to-reach from abroad airport. Of course, it's not exactly pretty here. ;-) -- Christopher Nielsen They who

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-29 Thread Christopher Nielsen
for it. I tried to get Cisco to add IL support back in 2001, but they politely refused. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-29 Thread Christopher Nielsen
, I haven't used IL recently, so maybe something has changed. It's good to hear that you're not having trouble. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time

Re: [9fans] kirkwood doc

2010-04-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 14:11, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Check this page, look for 'functional specification' Maybe everyone else has found this but I just got told about it by marvell. ron Did you mean to include a URL? -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-15 Thread Christopher Nielsen
multi-core systems as distributed heterogeneous systems.  Thoughts? http://www.sigops.org/sosp/sosp09/papers/baumann-sosp09.pdf Tim Newsham http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/ -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-07 Thread Christopher Nielsen
to people?  Any other features of interest that I didnt mention? Tim Newsham http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/ -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Nielsen
of a 'root from' you may get a 'kernel is at' prompt to which you can ask for a shell (!rc) iru -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin

Re: [9fans] Issues with 2 networks, fs server, and namespaces

2009-08-21 Thread Christopher Nielsen
reconfigure my setup to do this, I'd prefer to figure it out this way first, given the amount of time I've been banging my head against the wall on it :) --dho -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-13 Thread Christopher Nielsen
), or highest resolution audio available (e.g. 5.1 flac getting converted to whatever codec supports 5.1 audio). I haven't read up on sox, but I think the converter should be a file server sitting on top of /dev/audio. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-13 Thread Christopher Nielsen
the same thing, and I misunderstand what you're saying. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin

Re: [9fans] Small program PlanKey (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Christopher Nielsen
the system without all your preconceived notions of what should and should not be. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin

Re: [9fans] Small program PlanKey (paraphrase of DOSKey)

2009-01-27 Thread Christopher Nielsen
. . . yeah. No. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin