Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-19 Thread Edouard Klein
I'll add that it takes a special brand of courage to ask "Why has everything got to be a file" in front of a Plan 9 crowd ;) The off-track discussions with Daniel were enlightening. I think his perspective on "NoT" is quite valuable, and has inspired some ideas since I got back. ron minnich

Re: [9fans] VCS on Plan9

2024-04-19 Thread Edouard Klein
I love it when I discover that something down on my todo-list has already been done, better than I would have, by someone else :) Very neat tool, I'll be using it soon. Dave Eckhardt writes: >> One thing i did was sometimes to create a skeletron directory >> tree and bind *before* each single

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
sirjofri writes: > 06.03.2024 11:36:39 Edouard Klein : > ... >> >> I'll try to compile it on Linux and will let you know :) > > Well, it's designed for plan 9 systems, so you're probably out of luck on > linux, except you try it with plan9ports. > That was th

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
a...@9srv.net writes: > I wonder what percentage of people who reply are going to be running a finger > server they wrote. :-) My tcp79 comes from my implementation, here: > http://txtpunk.com/finger/index.html > > I think we've got enough interoperable unicode-aware implementations we can >

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> writes: > all this makes sense. thank you. > i might be dense, but what's the problem with inetd exactly? > I have two main gripes with it: - it runs as root, in order to switch users when launching a server, and therefore is a security risk. - it can be configured only

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
a...@9srv.net writes: > I wonder what percentage of people who reply are going to be running a finger > server they wrote. :-) Indeed, it may be why I can't seem to find a good, standard implementation: there are as many implementations as servers. > My tcp79 comes from my implementation,

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-06 Thread Edouard Klein
sirjofri writes: > Hi, > > 05.03.2024 22:38:59 Edouard Klein : > >> Hi, >> >> Thank you for your answer. >> >> >> sirjofri writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I don't use /rc/bin/service anymore, but I use /cfg/mach

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-05 Thread Edouard Klein
Hi, Thank you for your answer. sirjofri writes: > Hello, > > I don't use /rc/bin/service anymore, but I use /cfg/machinename/service > instead. My contents are copies of what's in /rc/bin/service or my own > scripts: I assume that you then bind-mount /cfg/machinename/service to that

[9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-02 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear 9fans, Those of you who run a Plan 9 or Inferno box, could you please share the contents of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc dir ? I'm writing about Plan 9's listen, and I've read the scripts included in the default distribution (e.g.

Re: [9fans] Re: Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2024-02-23 Thread Edouard Klein
the IWP9 review. Cheers, Edouard. Edouard Klein writes: > For the record here is the lkml post > https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/10/28/155 > Edouard Klein writes: > >> Thanks Moody for the nudge in a direction I hadn't explored. >> >> It seems that Linux does no

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Edouard Klein
I, for one, will attend, barring any incident. I will send my submission in a frenzy panic minutes before the deadline, as one usually does. "Don A. Bailey" writes: > Last I checked (you) were asking for people to sign up. What’s the actual > attendee count at this point? > > >> On Jan 25,

Re: [9fans] Re: Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2023-10-28 Thread Edouard Klein
For the record here is the lkml post https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/10/28/155 Edouard Klein writes: > Thanks Moody for the nudge in a direction I hadn't explored. > > It seems that Linux does not see 9p as been safe to mount without > privilege. From what I underst

Re: [9fans] iwp9 paper submission ?

2023-10-28 Thread Edouard Klein
Thanks Ori for the update. Please do not hesitate if you feel I can make myself useful somehow. o...@eigenstate.org writes: > Quoth Edouard Klein : >> Dear 9fans, >> >> I tried emailing an abstract to all iwp9*@iwp9.org addresses, but got a >> email delivery failure

Re: [9fans] Re: Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2023-10-28 Thread Edouard Klein
Thanks Moody for the nudge in a direction I hadn't explored. It seems that Linux does not see 9p as been safe to mount without privilege. From what I understand, only FS with the FS_USERNS_MOUNT flag can be mounted in a user namespace. It seems that v9fs is not one of them: For example, tmpfs is

[9fans] Mounting a 9P filesystem under a Linux "user namespace"

2023-10-27 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear 9fans, I'm trying to mount a 9p filesystem under a Linux user "namespace". Apparently this is verboten, because mounting filesystems is dangerous. So only fuse is permitted inside a user namespace. I've tried - using a setuid binary: does not work inside the user namespace, - 9pfuse and

[9fans] iwp9 paper submission ?

2023-10-27 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear 9fans, I tried emailing an abstract to all iwp9*@iwp9.org addresses, but got a email delivery failure notification back. Do anybody know where we stand on the workshop organization ? Is there anything I could do to help ? Cheers, Edouard. -- 9fans: