Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

Simply awesome! Thanks much to all involved. > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 6:08 AM wrote: > We are thrilled to announce that Nokia has transferred the copyright of > Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation. This transfer applies to all of the > Plan 9 from Bell Labs code, from the earliest days through

Re: [9fans] zero copy & 9p (was Re: PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)

Pure "producer/cosumer" stuff, like sending things through a pipe as long as the source didn't need to touch the data ever more. Regarding bugs, I meant "producing bugs" not "fixing bugs", btw. > On 14 Oct 2018, at 09:34, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > well, finding bugs is always good :) >

Re: [9fans] Fwd: ubiquitous environment?

a mixture of clive macos and plan9ports > On 9 Mar 2018, at 01:45, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > >> I don't think anyone is running it anymore. >> At least, I'm not running it. >> Sorry. > > What do you run? > > -- > Aram Hăvărneanu >

Re: [9fans] Fwd: ubiquitous environment?

Octopus would run on Plan 9, although we used inferno for (hosted) terminals, and it used Op as the protocol (a descendant of 9p like everyone else), Plan B was more a modified Plan 9 system with name spaces replaced and the early ideas of the Octopus window system implemented. No need to

Re: [9fans] Fwd: ubiquitous environment?

In octopus you didn't have to "save" the state. The window system was kept running at a server, including the layout you were using. It was nice, and I miss it. II'll have to do something about it when I get some time. > On 3 Mar 2018, at 20:13, Steve Simon wrote: > > i

Re: [9fans] Reimplementing Plan 9 in Go (Was: Re: [9front] bio io functions)

I don’t now if clive or not, but, I think the world has changed and I’d like to get a plan9 like environment but considering as the HW all the machines I use, including their OS as the new “HW”. I’ve been trying to do that since the octopus, clive was just another attempt; ideas are welcome

[9fans] OT: clive

Hi, we have been working on a new system, named Clive, it’s written in Go and includes its new weird file protocol, named zx. I thought that some of you might be interested, so I’m writing this mail. The http://lsub.org/ls/clive.html page has links to everything, and, to avoid noise in 9fans, we

[9fans] nix mk iv

I have updated the nix page and the sources at sources.lsub.org for nix to include the mark iv kernel. The kernel is still work in progress, but now you can take a look and perhaps borrow bits from it. btw, the 9n kernel close to the nix directory/tar ball, is a modified 9 kernel that includes

[9fans] html5 canvas, go, devdraw

Hi, I'm playing a bit with the html5 canvas, js, and go servers, and I'm thinking it would be quite easy to build a devdraw server (an omero like server would be even easier) so that you only have to run your go program and it would open a browser as your devdraw device. Just wondering, anyone

Re: [9fans] html5 canvas, go, devdraw

devdraw looks cool. I will take a look. thanks again. On Sep 7, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Nick Owens misch...@9.offblast.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 05:48:18PM +0200, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: there has been some work on this here. unfortunately not all devdraw messages are implemented, so

Re: [9fans] html5 canvas, go, devdraw

I will, thanks to all of you for your replies. Yes, I think that provided what canvas can do, doing something like an omero viewer should be both fast to write and efficient when running. Now that I see that drawterms are around the corner, perhaps here already, I will play with more omero like

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: tl;dr: as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on, Aha, the fact that you don't know proves that it's private. ☺ As are most the files I open in my editor, until at some point I do a Put and others can

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

I think its almost ready at least to try and take a look, I will try to put out a copy next week, unless other authors ask me not to. any useful bit for production usage will be shared, anyway, we have always done it that way. In short, I agree 100% with Steve. On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:27 AM,

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

the mark I nix was, thanks to erik, made public and got stuff like graphics. Im sure you know where to find it. We have another version which is still experimental and unreleased, but we were distracted by other things. Hopefully we will publish it in the near future. But, we do what we can.

Re: [9fans] text database Kirara

nice. btw I think I have another tag tool at contrib. not sure, but it was called tags, and the search tool was called F. I say this because it used file and per file type tag listing (ms2txt, etc) to index other file types. It might be an idea to add to your nice tool. On Aug 6, 2013, at

[9fans] nix stuff

Hi, we updated our paper page at lsub with a few TRs describing the last work being done on research nix (mark IV this time). In particular, as shown in http://syssoftware.blogspot.com.es about all allocations of a few data structures under the new allocator are now satisfied fully locally (per

[9fans] 9n

Hi, I have copied at sources.lsub.org/9n a copy of a modified plan 9 kernel that has a new mount table and mount driver, (everything near namec changed), along with a variant of fossil that speaks 9P2000.ix aka 9pix. See 9n.README for the details. It's experimental, so use with caution. I'm

Re: [9fans] 9n

On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: concat us Since concat'ing us may be disgusting, I should have written contact us. sorry.

Re: [9fans] broken floating point exceptions and fpregs

my terminal runs a plan 9 also with those bits. dont worry. On May 26, 2013, at 8:00 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: give us a bit more time and we will put the new bits somewhere. You are back-porting this to the Bell Labs distribution, I hope? grin ++L

Re: [9fans] broken floating point exceptions and fpregs

did not publish it yet, but we have what could be called a nix mark II, comes with a new mount table and a fossil speaking 9pix, plus a new scheduler. It does not have al the stuff like graphics in the modified mark I nix you have, but, the new stuff should be easy to use on it. give us a

[9fans] 9pi and upas/send question

To anyone with a pi out there, can you try to do an upas send on the pi (just send a mail) and let me know if it worked fine there? thanks

[9fans] upas locking

Hi, we found recently that we had a problem with /mail/tmp/L.mbox used by upasfs to lock. Looking into, we found that in upas/common/libsys.c the function generating the lock file name returns always L.mbox but not .../L.mbox file name as it seems it should. Also, the function doing the actual

Re: [9fans] upas locking

Yes, I noticed the comment, but I thought it was wrong. The problem was that we had quite a number of upas/fs's and scanmails running and it was because one of them had a problem and kept a /mail/tmp/L.mbox file locked. All other ones kept waiting for that (although all of them were using

Re: [9fans] upas locking

yes, except that the whole thing got worse because one of our servers had a lot of memory used due to those and we put back the bind for tmp. On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2013 15:51, Fco. J. Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: if

Re: [9fans] International Ispell in Plan9

look under /acme for examples. On Apr 12, 2013, at 2:21 PM, trebol trebol55...@yahoo.es wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 07:57:13PM +0200, Nemo wrote: you could put it in sources, if not yet there. I want to put order in this mess before put it in sources. I change the for loop to work

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

andrey, I agreed the language is nice and that's why I also use it. I just pointed out that binaries are one order of magnitude larger, as you just proved. perhaps I shouldn't have raised this. I didn't want to bother anyone. El Mar 24, 2013, a las 12:45 AM, andrey mirtchovski

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

go runs already on 9. Binaries are one order of magnitude larger and the go tool part of the runtime code are, well…. but it's already there. On Mar 23, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Peter A. Cejchan tyap...@gmail.com wrote: I still hope that some clone of plan9/nix/nxm will merge with Go

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

Than plan 9's C ones. On Mar 23, 2013, at 5:09 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Binaries are one order of magnitude larger and the go tool part of the runtime code are, well…. sorry to be dense. larger than what? - erik

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

Although, in general, I agree. I think that having the resources doesn't mean we have to consume them (although we might if that pays off, of course). For example, looking at what go install does wrt what a few mkfiles would do for the same go source is illustrative of what I'm trying to say. On

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

I have a few programs written, including fs sync tools and a few other things. I guess the largest one might be 10k lines. The language is nice, although binaries are still large. I mentioned hello world because that was the trivial example. I saw the same effect with other real world programs.

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com wrote: Why use mk when the source code has all the information you need to build the program speed. You have a fast and nice compiler. I only copy a std mkfile to each dir with go source. I dont write them.

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

might be, but I was also thinking on macos x, not just 9. On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com wrote: If go install is slow on Plan 9, it's because Plan 9's file system is slow (which it is and always has been), and because go install does transitive dependencies correctly,

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

I used noweb, and web before that, long before go was conceived. In fact, I was a huge fan of that. Knuth literate programming was fun. it was tiny compared with godoc tool. Although the go tool is tiny compared with eclipse or even the old code warrior. I like the language, and worked to get it

Re: [9fans] Go on Plan9/Arm

yes, checked and runs on 386, amd64, and arm. with the 9 tree from sources. iirc, I had to do some changes for amd64 and gorka had to port to arm. hth On Mar 21, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: I think Gorka has it running. At least, it runs in our rpi's

Re: [9fans] new fork?

yes, octopus was a better plan. both should be still avail from our web site. On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:39 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: There is/was a Plan B. Some of the ideas went into Octopus I think... On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] new fork?

until a few weeks ago. it has been retired now. we are working on the next one, but it will take time. On Feb 28, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: Do you guys still use it at lsub? On Feb 27, 2013, at 17:54, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: yes, octopus

[9fans] two questions about go in Plan 9

Hi, I've been using go for a few things in Plan 9, and noticed a couple of things. I'd just like to know if it's me or if this also happens to others: - diagnostics issued by log.Print et al. don't show up unless I call log.Fail - closing a tcp connection which is still open by a nearby reader

Re: [9fans] two questions about go in Plan 9

Forgive me, Somehow I removed the -v from the call to go test. That makes the log print only for failed tests. Regarding TCP, forsyth reminded me that it's what I'd get with the std. Plan 9 system calls, which is so. I guess my question is… how can I interrupt a reader in that case? In C I'd

Re: [9fans] two questions about go in Plan 9

I know, but, what's the std way to do that in go in plan 9? On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:07 PM, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: network connections on plan9 can be hanged up by writing hangup into the corresponding ctl file. -- cinap [/mail/box/nemo/msgs/201302/897]

Re: [9fans] ppxeload nix

Nevertheless, if someone wants a 64bit kernel that could be used as a terminal, I'd say Erik's copy would be fine for that. On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:42 PM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: Erik's 9atom which distributes basically the same source as you can find on lsub.org (because he

Re: [9fans] ppxeload nix

Just to let others know, Erik has everything the lsub nix had. If you want a terminal, you might just pick that one. We are in the process of removing features from the nix at lsub to make it become a more researchy kernel; and we will focus on servers, not terminals. for terminals, there are

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

did you notice the discussion was from this century? surprising! On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:28 PM, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: yeah, like mount... its files all the way down :) linux is like windows... everything is a HANDL^Wfiledescriptor -- cinap

Re: [9fans] Uriel

sad news. he was quite young, also. :( r.i.p. On Oct 14, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: He was certainly a lively and unique character in person and on the various lists / channels he frequented. RIP. --dho 2012/10/14 Calvin Morrison

Re: [9fans] Kmouse?

those were added to let use keys in the laptop as mouse keyboards. they are configured using /dev/kbmap I have a couple of kbmaps using those. On Aug 21, 2012, at 12:46 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: in pc/kbd.c, there are the scan codes Kmouse|button. where button in {1, .., 5}. i am not sure

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox - Clone

Yes. Also, if anyone wants a different behavior, it´s easy to change to source so it fits your preferences. On May 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, steve wrote: Aww, leave sam alone, he served us well for (so) many years, zerox is part of his baroque charm. if where to change any text, which i

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox - Clone

I'd prefer clown, because it reminds me of clone. ;) couldn't resist. On May 30, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: copy? That surely won't be confused with the Snarf functionality at all And on second thought, maybe Dup is a bit too much like Dump ...

Re: [9fans] The creepy WORM. (was: Re: Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience)

On May 20, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: How often would you flush to disk? You still need to worry about the order of writing metadata. that's the nice thing. it's so simple I don't have to worry about order. you write new blocks and, once all of them reached

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

Where no-one is aka Nemo. On May 16, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Gorka Guardiola wrote: It means (loosely translated) no-one provokes me without punishment.

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

On May 16, 2012, at 4:03 PM, hiro wrote: There are towns without restaurants and pubs in America? More than there are in Spain.

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

damn, I'll have now to seek for another uid it's all in the open. On May 15, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I see you've realised that Nemo has nothing to do with that nautical fellow, but refers to the Latin motto Nemo me impune lacessit! On

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

On May 14, 2012, at 12:14 PM, IainWS wrote: Would I be wrong in saying there are four dictators? Yes, there's just good taste :)

Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

Oh! Good catch! Sorry I couldn't be of more help. On May 10, 2012, at 9:58 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: For what you say I think that your plumber might not be configured or that something happen with the configuration file after view tried to plumb it. In the worst case I can

Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

Sorry, I missed the previous mail. To avoid noise for 9fans, can you let me know off-list which OS are you using on the PC and on the terminal and I'll try to help? For what you say I think that your plumber might not be configured or that something happen with the configuration file after view

Re: [9fans] Summary of acme chords

plus I think the man page describes it quite well. IIRC. -- using ipad keyboard. excuse any typos. On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:19 PM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: How did you learn this information -- from a stupid textual list? No, from a youtube vid. There were these nice mouse button

Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

1) In a directory panel, is it difficult to make distinguish directory and files like acme? yes, names are listed. that's all 2) Is it difficult to reflect the change, say create a file etc, the content of directory panel? You have to reopen the dir. Button 3 click on the name, then move

Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:55 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: 4) Why I cannot run inferno applications, such as charon during o/mero and o/live is running. I got wmlib: no draw context error. Kenji You can run emu apps, but there is no graphics context. So you can't run inferno

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

Sure. I'm using it (and nix/plan9) to develop nix. Drop me a line off-list if you want help, but you should have everything you need in the web site, including the distribution of the system. On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:26 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: I was thinking along the lines of

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

To make it explicit, the plan I have is to throw away o/live and o/mero and write something native for macos, linux, and perhaps ios such that the UI widgets are abstract and handled in a similar way they are handled in o/live. Only that they'd be native widgets with the look of the native system

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

Is it exported as files? I thought I knew Qt, but, if it provides a file interface, I missed that. On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:45 PM, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: Hi. To make it explicit, the plan I have is to throw away o/live and o/mero and write something native for macos, linux, and perhaps ios

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

If you consider a set of abstract widgets, reasonable enough, you could map them to native implementations in -a browser -cocoa -gnome -add your one here. then, there could be a portable shared component speaking to those and gatewaying to your favorite protocol (9p, ix), and you could have a

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:41 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: Your intension is to develope two ways, one for server (nix), and one for terminal (like drawterm?) Just to let you use your server(s) but assume that your terminals might be running macos, linux, ios, ... as their native

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

Just to say that we moved the development mailing list. Sorry about that. it's nix at lsub.org and you can subscribe by a mail to nix-request at lsub.org, should you want to do so. Sorry again. On Apr 14, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Nemo wrote: Hi, just FYI, http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html has

[9fans] octopus paper

Given the lag in publication, this system is no longer under development (though we are still using it), but here's a paper about the Octopus. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016412121200043X I post it here because it's related to Plan 9.

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

WoW! I hate them. It seems my university is subscribed and I could browse it freely… I'll talk to you off list. On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: Given the lag in publication, this system is no longer under development (though we are still using it), but here's a paper about

Re: [9fans] usb flash drive with ext2

you can enable debug diagnostics for devices by using the usbd ctl file. I don´t remember which ones are the strings (see the man, probably) but I remember you can enable debug flags without restarting it. You could try to locate them and enable debug for that, plug the disk again, disable debug

Re: [9fans] Building Go on Plan 9

Well, that's actually the approach Ron would choose for nix. IIRC, there were a bunch of mkfiles added to the std. go tree to make it compile, but I may be mistaken. Ron knows better. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: I would be interested in the approach

Re: [9fans] Building Go on Plan 9

+1 for using parallel mkfiles. If they are few, we don't need to import gmake and we could still build just by adding them to the std tree. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: modify ape/make. I was just waiting for this :-P Please do NOT fuck with

Re: [9fans] troff book

I have written books both in latex and in troff. It's a nightmare, no matter in what, to get things like indexes and tocs right. Doing it in troff required me to write a few scripts to generate some of the tables. Doing it in latex required me to write a few scripts to fix up things not handled

Re: [9fans] troff book

Could be worse, they might require using IE on Windows 7 to submit them. Or perhaps they already do? On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:16 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Irony alert! The Bell Labs journal now requires submissions in *word*.

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

You mean -1, don't you? On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Yaroslav yari...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/11/22 Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com: because 9fans not only agree to disagree, they also disagree to agree :) +1

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

I'm impressed by the work Geoff, and others do on Plan9, and I'm not talking about 9front at all. Jim, Charles, and others made an excellent port for amd64, which is cleaner that any other system I've seen. We used that as a starting point for nix. I think is childish to fork a system because the

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

neither am I. I was saying it would have been much better to see which one was the problem with patches and address it. have fun. On Thursday, November 24, 2011, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Um, cinap, just FYI, I was not aiming at you or anyone else in particular. Sorry if it sounded

Re: [9fans] Forks of Plan 9 (Was: 9vx instability)

I'd like to say here that I'm sorry if my mail in this thread did hurt any feelings. That was not my aim, again. I know all of us keep a local copy in one way or another, but I'd like to suggest that all of us keep on sending patches and code to bell labs; that's the least we can do, considering

Re: [9fans] Returning to Plan 9: Virtualization, Distributions

But, if you want more than one core, be sure you install the CL I sent (which has not yet been applied). I'll commit it later today so you could get SMP without applying any CL by hand. I use it as follows: hg clone http://googlecode.com/p/nix-os nix-os cd nix-os ./9vx.OSX10.6 -r . -u

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

funny, it's working like a rock here. just fine. maybe I've been lucky. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: just normal usage, mk install and such in the nix release, and there are times that memory corruption happens. There's been a race in there forever,

[9fans] iwp9

The proceedings can be found in the web page, iwp9.org

Re: [9fans] thanks iwp9 organizers

I don't understand. You were also organizing it :) On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:05 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: i just wanted to say thanks to the organizers for putting in all the work to make the conference a big success. - erik

[9fans] iwp9 WIP

Dear all, the dealine for IWP9 WIP is here, but we encourage everyone with WIP to submit to IWP9. We will still wait a few days for WIP submissions. hth

Re: [9fans] OT: how do 9fans backup their Mac(book)?

What I do is to consider the macs as volatile. Very much like firmware. All the stuff I care about is in our main file server. I might either use my files using the octopus or just cache them in the local disk of the mac when I need that. To recover such firmware, yes, I use an external disk and

[9fans] iwp9 camera ready deadline: oct 13rd.

Dear all, this is to announce that, due to local logistics, the camera ready deadline for iwp9 is now set to October, 13rd. (That is, Thursday). It was previously set to 14th, so it's one day before. thanks

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2011 program

Don´t know by now. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Alexander Clouter a...@digriz.org.uk wrote: Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: This is the provisional program for IWP9 2011. It will be updated in the web site soon, but in the mean time, this is how it looks like. Possibly

[9fans] iwp9 2011 program

Dear all, This is the provisional program for IWP9 2011. It will be updated in the web site soon, but in the mean time, this is how it looks like. Best regards October 20th 11:00 Registration (and coffee) 11:50 Welcome + keynote 12:00 panel: news from new systems: osprey, inferno-ports,

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2011 program

I'm sorry. A jtag workshop (also included in iwp9 2011) was missing from the program I sent. This is the correct one. The one in the web will be updated soon. 11:00 Registration (and coffee) 11:50 Welcome + keynote 12:00 panel: news from new systems: osprey, inferno-ports, and nix 13:00

[9fans] C beautifier

Hi, anyone is using a C beautifier in Plan 9? I mean, other than gnu indent, which I tried and does not work quite right for me. thanks

Re: [9fans] C beautifier

I'll have to learn to search and read man pages :) thanks! On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:15 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: /386/bin/cb?

Re: [9fans] C beautifier

I was looking for something capable of unifying say if(...){ }else{ } and if(...) { } else { } into a single style. But it might do. thanks again. On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:11 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Sun Sep 18 14:10:06 EDT 2011, n...@lsub.org wrote: Hi, anyone

Re: [9fans] C beautifier

As I said, I should learn to read man pages. cb -s was exactly what I was looking for. thanks again. On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: I was looking for something capable of unifying say if(...){ }else{ } and if(...) { } else

Re: [9fans] C beautifier

Somehow indent has indented wrong some ifs (the code in the body is at the same tab level than the if). Perhaps I made a mistake. I'm not saying it doesn't work (I'm sorry if I did). but cb was just fine. On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: I have an indent

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

I agree, but I think it's ok if we use them only if we have them, and rely on just 2M otherwise. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:28 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: please don't make it required.  there's

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

What's the problem if you let the kernel work with 2m/1G entries when you have them, and with just 2M entries with it doesnt? Or perhaps your reply was not to my mail... or I'm confused :) On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: i would hate to have

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

It's already there. We can discuss this off-list On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:44 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: OK, ok, I'm being unreasonable. If somebody will please write the cpuid function that returns 1 if GiB pages are supported and 0 if not, I'll do the rest next week. ron

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

That's what 1G pages are for. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: On Fri Sep 16 14:26:53 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:46 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: (can't one just preemptively map the

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

Ok. If you check out the release tag from nix-os.googlecode.com it should be ok and compile and work fine. I just checked. We are sorry we didn't tell before. From now on we'll tag as release the last release we are happy with. hth

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

Perhaps you checked out an old version? I just checked and there's a $nixroot/BUILDING_AMD64 file, provided you did the check out at $nixroot. This is what the file has: cd /sys/src objtype=386 mk libs cd ape/lib mk install cd /sys/src objtype=amd64 mk install BTW, for building the nix kernel

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

Let's make a deal. Anyone who writes something can give it a name. :)

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

I could run old binaries. Perhaps profiling no longer works for them, didn't even try. Either way, we had no choice. We had to put some stuff in there.

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

In the experiments I made I was sending all results through shared memory (a pointer to the reply). But I don't think that code is in the main rep. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:13 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: On Thu Sep 15 10:04:54 EDT 2011, n...@lsub.org wrote: I could run

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

futexes do not promise to behave like actual semaphores the last time I checked them out. These ones do. But the main difference is not that. They come with a semalt() op that tries to do a down at the same time on a set of semaphores. So, if you model tubes (nix channels) as a regular

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: So you use both 2MB and 1GB PTEs? Yes. - Tubes, a new IPC mechanism like pipes that uses the optimistic semaphores Tubes in memory of Sen Ted Stevens? No. In the memory of regular standard tubes. But yes, there's a

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

Yes, IX was already taken for a file system protocol. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:38 PM, s s leonardne...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure you want to call it NIX, though?

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