On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:
Just for the record, nothing's changed:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:44:04PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
Where did the Go team say explicitly they are not interested in a
better build system?
http://goo.gl/AtBrC
A lot has changed
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 08:48:39PM +0530, Dan Cross wrote:
So are you saying that because they use bash to build the system, the
language is shitty? Or just the build system is shitty?
I have other issues with Go as a
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 05:36:58PM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote:
Sure, feel free to make something that isn't shitty, there's plenty
out there that can be improved. The machinery to install Go (from
sources) is hardly the most
toolchain.
Uriel
Thinking it over, I'd rather use the regular Linux toolchain for the
task. You can still write sensible C for gcc to compile, and I think
you'll have a lot less work to do. Besides, it's the approach taken by
p9p, inferno, and drawterm, it works well for them. If you're concerned
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:18 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote:
Some people would love warp-to-location for Undo/Redo, some I'm sure
would hate it. Some people can't stand that up/down arrow keys scroll
the page rather than move the cursor (I'm not one). Acme might benefit
from a config
, this is a quite nice visualization, but i would keep the left
button in some shade of green on the paste, cut and copy pictures, to
indicate you should hold it.
In any case hope you are ok that I added it to http://acme.cat-v.org/mouse
Thanks again.
Uriel
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:34 PM, andrey mirtchovski
mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote:
http://alltom.com/files/misc/chords.png
a suggestion?
http://i.imgur.com/hjFJa.png
Ah, that is even better, I added a different green to the held button,
and updated the version at: http://acme.cat-v.org/mouse
for a project called after an Ed Wood film.
uriel
This days probably your best chance is to work with Go (designed by
some of the creators of Plan 9 now at Google), there are quite a few
organizations using it already in production and some are hiring:
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/organizations-using-go
uriel
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Jani
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
uriel is shaney incarnate.
Thanks for the compliment! ;)
By the way, shaney has a new home:
http://glenda.cat-v.org/friends/mark-v-shaney/
Enjoy!
uriel
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
uriel is shaney incarnate. throw me a snail address and shaney will
send you a solstice card.
A shaney solstice card sounds awesome!
Uriel Mangado
Bråvallavägen 12
182 66 Djursholm (SWEDEN)
brucee
On Fri, Dec 17
that paid
programmers not to program.
Unlike with the CAP, this would provide an unquestionable net-social
benefit to the world.
uriel
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
I put some historic papers and distribution images (copyright permitting) on
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/steve/historic, and I believe uriel
has more on http://www.cat-v.org
All the historical papers I have
I recently made a fascinating archeological discovery:
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/humour/shaneys-plan9-faq
Enjoy!
uriel
for example).
Anyone interested on being able to post articles to 9times just send
me an email and I'll create a werc editor account you can use to post
stuff.
uriel
cu
--
--
Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http
either signed or didn't contain personal pronouns.
Good point, they used to include the name of the author, but I think I
removed it a while ago because nobody else was posting, I should add
it back, the information is still there (i think) just need to display
it.
uriel
any version control system
at all (or if you are lucky, kenfs, fossil, hg or git).
uriel
Has anyone ported SVN to plan9 (I only need the client side), or
alternatively is anyone using linuxemu to run the Linux binary?
After spending way too many years of misspent youth trying to get SVN working
There are mirrors of the videos and other stuff at
http://iwp9.cat-v.org but in this case I think the original recording
is simply broken, sorry :(
uriel
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
I finally got around to watching Russ' Acid talk
move with the times, and adopt an XML
format for command arguments which would be much more extensible and
Web 2.0 compliant.
That way all commands could share the same dynamically linked parser,
and one could write scripts with their favorite XML-editor!
uriel
http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2009/09/07/0-mplayer9/
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Anant Narayanan an...@kix.in wrote:
On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:26 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
Good luck trying to get Plan 9 to play video!
minooka; lc /sys/src/9/pc/*tv*.c
devtv.c vgatvp3020.c
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I guess we'll see what happens.
We all know what will happen: more and more layers of crud will be added.
Just as Russ predicted:
From: r...@plan9.bell-labs.com (Russ Cox)
Subject: Re: [9fans] design clairvoyance
is BS.
Even one step further, even if we all agree blocks are BS,
As I was reading this thread I kept hearing inside my head boyd's
voice screaming this at frequent intervals:
Blocks are bollocks!
uriel
moving more generally, that something can already be done using
feature X had BETTER
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Eris Discordiaeris.discor...@gmail.com wrote:
if you have quanstro/sd installed, sdorion(3) discusses how it
controls the backplane lights.
Um, I don't have that because I don't have any running Plan 9 instances, but
I'll try finding it on the web (if it's been
, and grateful for my stupidity.
uriel
a great job at making their developers keep track of as much
Apple-induced crap as possible...
uriel
seen whole OSes for x86 written in assembly.
It all depends on how much crap you want to keep track of.
Dave
- erik
software and
programming division, they are making the GNU and Gnome crack monkeys
look sane, competent and responsible.
uriel
The advantage of the higher
level languages that were designed with concurrency in the language, is that
you don't feel like you're twiddling the bits manually so much
uriel
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/2 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Anant Narayananan...@kix.in wrote:
Mac OS 10.6 introduced a new C compiler frontend (clang), which added
support for blocks in C [1]. Blocks basically
So libthread must be a figment of 9fan's imagination...
Of course, for Apple (or anyone else) to learn from Plan 9 would be
impossible, so instead they had to add a new 'feature' to C.
uriel
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone actually looked
with some cute 'feature' and
then we will figure out how to hype ourselves all the way to hell.
Peace
uriel
How much effort would it be to support a feature similar to blocks in 8c
(and family)? What are your thoughts on the idea in general?
--
Anant
[1] http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews
anything about 9fat and plan9.ini
so we could have a drop in replacement for 9load.
And given that such a setup would have all the advantages you list
here, plus would retain the advantages people enjoy from 9fat, it is
hard to understand why doing something else is such a great idea.
uriel
) signature. if
the 9pcload is on 9fat, not a problem anymore.
Wonderful!
Seems that everyone won the fight in the end.
Perhaps fighting is not as useless as some make it?
Peace
uriel
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Don Baileydon.bai...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there an IWP9 website for this year that provides information about dates
and locations?
Thanks,
I try to keep http://iwp9.cat-v.org updated with information for every year.
uriel
D
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Er, it doesn't need a new PBS, booting Plan 9 from a Plan 9 kernel
already worked just fine with what russ did years ago.
uriel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there's work
Can it load and parse plan9.ini?
uriel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Iruata Souzairu.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote:
Er, it doesn't need a new PBS, booting Plan 9 from a Plan 9 kernel
already worked just fine with what russ did years
Because the whole point of the project was to replace 9load, and the
way plan9 systems tell 9load what kernel to load is using plan9.ini
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:57 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote:
Can it load and parse
(if I'm not mistaken)
just fine in a backwards compatible fashion using russ' boot scheme.
uriel
needed to fulfill russ original idea, so I'm happy
because if I understood this correctly, it should be possible to put
that together with russ loader and have a backwards compatible
replacement for 9load.
uriel
accessible from other systems, etc.)
uriel
It is fine for some, it isn't for others.
uriel
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Michaelian
Ennismichaelian.en...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM, hiro23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry for posting here, but I can't reach you inferno guys.
I don't know whether it could
-lc
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
What the Fuck?!?! What kind of lunix did that?
uriel
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, roger pepperogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/18 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
Interesting, this reminds me of a question I had: is there any command
that would read from stdin, and write to stdout, but if there was an
error when writing to stdout it would ignore
to keep werc's error logs clean of spurious noise.
I guess based on what you said, that I might be able to use sed, but
only until your complaint is fixed :)
uriel
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:41 PM, hugo riverauai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
is there some reason why sed doesn't check for write errors
The software industry is the ultimate recreation of Sisyphus' curse.
uriel
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Lyonsfus...@storytotell.org wrote:
On Aug 12, 2009, at 9:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
if we're going back there, just take me out back and shoot me now.
i want to remember some
to be very complicated.
uriel
If it is of any consolation, it seems to be here:
http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/4/usbdisk
uriel
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote:
I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage
is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem
they are simply confused by whatever errors gnu
tar spews for who knows what reason, but people that have no problems
with other tarballs do have problems with the p9p tarballs, and it has
been going on for a while.
uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Russ Coxr...@swtch.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009
Perhaps a way to solve this problems and save you work and trouble
would be to simply link to: http://code.swtch.com/plan9port/get/tip.gz
and let mercurial do the job of building a tarball for the latest
repo.
uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't used
might find
a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc).
The floppys are here:
/n/sources/contrib/steve/historic/2nd-edition/pcdist/
I found a complete mirror of the old 2nd edition site
and I think uriel has copied it to cat-v.org.
You will need 16Mb to install and 8Mb to run a terminal
though
for any of it. Anyone who thought
CORBA was the answer didn't seem to understand the question.
The problem with CORBA is that it doesn't use XML, fortunately DBUS fixes that.
uriel
:
/n/sources/contrib/steve/historic/2nd-edition/pcdist/
I found a complete mirror of the old 2nd edition site
and I think uriel has copied it to cat-v.org.
Yes, you can find a mirror of the 2nd ed site at
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/2nd_edition/plan9.att.com/
And the floppy is available at
http
If all you want is to preserve the -a flag, add to your profile:
; fn a { acme -a; }
Problem solved.
uriel
P.S.: Admitedly this doesn't fix up the plumber, but once you have an
acme session the plumber will use it, and you can fix it up for the
plumber equally simply.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009
Always get p9p from hg, the tarballs have been partially broken for
ages and always have problems being untared in some environments, hg
is fast, painless, and makes it real easy to keep your installation up
to date.
uriel
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Jason Catenajason.cat...@gmail.com wrote
(http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/4/proc ).
Fish also contributed some pages from section 1 of the Unix Writer's
Workbench: http://man.cat-v.org/unix_WWB/1/
Thanks again to Fish for this wonderful contributions, and of course
to the original authors of all this amazing material.
Peace
uriel
P.S.: I'm
Slightly off topic (of this thread), but I'm looking for troff sources
of 8th, 9th, 10th and Plan 9 1st Editions to complete the man page
collections at http://man.cat-v.org
If anyone knows where I can find copies of any of those, I would be
most grateful.
uriel
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM
It might be worth trying to get control back, I think you can do that
for domain squatters that violate trademarks, as is clearly the case
here.
uriel
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, mahtmattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:
Uriel wrote:
Likely Google juice, there are still plenty of high-rank
there lying around the net.
That and probably the amount of mistaken ad clicks are enough to cover
their registration fees, so why would they let it go?
uriel
-- Forwarded message --
From: aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net
To: 9f...@9fans.net
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:08:08 -0700
-only http 'tree'.
uriel
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Steve Simonst...@quintile.net wrote:
There are several places which have readonly versions of sources available via
http, alternatively there is a socks client or even htfilefs, the former uses
the SOCKS protocol to tunnel through
My bet is on file system performance. Where did the data come from?
9vx is also much faster, even if binaries are identical, because
fossil is such a dog.
uriel
P.S.: In my experience with werc ( http://werc.cat-v.org ) statically
linking p9p tools further increases performance considerably
(other than computing your own diffs based on past snapshots).
So you are on your own, you can take the code (while the site happens
to be up, or from a mirror), do whatever you like with it, but that is
all there is and all anyone can count on.
uriel
; as such, you get at least
the same baseline
rid my annoying comments, some Lisp-heads have been celebrating
the demise of Erik Naggum...).
Thanks
uriel
their best to make Plan 9 and related technologies
successful and keep them from dying in total irrelevancy? One of my
many flaws is that my memory is very bad, so maybe I'm forgetting what
you have done...
uriel
their best to make Plan 9 and related technologies
successful and keep them from dying in total irrelevancy? One of my
many flaws is that my memory is very bad, so maybe I'm forgetting what
you have done...
uriel
Disregard this, my memory does totally suck, and I just have been
reminded by others
directly shunned and unwelcome).
uriel
a right(even a duty!) to complain, and
complaints should be both welcome and heed if Plan 9 (or any project)
is to be successful.
Peace
uriel
P.S.: I got werc to work with a very simple 'magic' wrapper rc script
(I'm sure russ' cgi.c is a much better solution though, but wanted
something that would
What about using a public hg repo and letting others pick what changes
they are interested in?
uriel
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:03 AM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Russ Coxr...@swtch.com wrote:
Should we put patches here, too?
Yes. I'd like plan9port
With which ac97 driver?
uriel
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, sqweeksqw...@gmail.com wrote:
lies! we had ac97 working on the t23 at IWP-Bondi!
-sqweek
2009/7/11 cinap_len...@gmx.de:
usb audio... havnt tried it with ac97 on my t23 yet.
--
cinap
-- Forwarded message
flags under a more consistent and clear
interface.
The ability to mount and unmount 9p file servers without being root is
just a great extra.
http://sqweek.dnsdojo.org/code/9mount/
uriel
P.S.: Oh, and I think debian even packages 9mount!
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:03 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8
interpretation is that they've
rediscovered Ron's idea of borrowing a linux kernel as a minimal (sic)
device driver layer to put a sensible OS on top of, and throwing
everything else away.
You can be sure we wont be so lucky. A huge amount of gnu/gnome guck is assured.
uriel
.
And sound if it's not usb. And bluetooth so you can use your phone
as a modem. And so on.
And C++ and Java and Flash and
(C++ is assured, given that Chrome itself is all C++)
uriel
'window manager' to keep
compatibility with all the plugins, input methods, font management and
other junk that X provides.
I could be wrong, but I have not seen any evidence that could
contradict any of this.
uriel
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Richard Miller9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:
You can
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/8 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think so. We already have IPv6 support and it's not that bad.
Having more drivers and supported
Thanks for the info! I had been wondering about this for many years.
And what of ^A and ^E? I have heard them being credited to Emacs, but
people believes so many silly things this days...
Peace
uriel
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Rob Pikerobp...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe ^H ^W ^U date
The standard Unix mount command sucks (but then, so does v9fs, but
that is another story), use sqweek's wonderful 9mount command that
will make your life much less miserable in the dark world of Linux:
http://sqweek.dnsdojo.org/code/9mount/
Peace
uriel
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:55 AM, lu
Er, that was meant to be the standard *Lunix* mount command.
uriel
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote:
The standard Unix mount command sucks (but then, so does v9fs, but
that is another story), use sqweek's wonderful 9mount command that
will make your life much less
be interested in hearing more details on the exact
origins of ^H ^W and ^U.
Now back to your usual 9fans schedule, enjoy your keyboard vs. mouse flame
uriel
P.S.: I even recently wrote a Google Chrome extension to implement the
Unix text editing keyboard shortcuts in web pages, it works fairly
and your current page (often
with all text) is lost.
Oh, and note that unfortunately due to current limitations in the
Chrome extensions API, this changes only apply to text fields in the
page, not to the url bar :(
uriel
Russ
and workshop organizers.
Enjoy
uriel
P.S.: I also have collected photos taken by various people at:
http://iwp9.cat-v.org/2008/photos/ if you have photos that you would
like added to collection just send them to me.
not welcome.
If you expect people to contribute to Plan 9 on their copious spare
time while they are being treated with this kind of contempt, good
luck to you, you are going to need it.
Thank you
uriel
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:34
Ah, very cool, break is one of the few things I have missed in rc some times.
What do you think of adding return? I have wanted it a few times and
Rob seems to think it makes sense to add it:
http://9fans.net/archive/2003/03/44
Thanks!
uriel
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:52 AM, erik quanstrom
if they can email it to me or
tell me where I could find it.
The source for the app that displays the manual pages can be found as
part of the standard werc distribution at http://werc.cat-v.org under
apps/wman/, patches, bug reports and suggestions are very welcome too
;)
Peace
uriel
it doesn't
seem to run there.
It does run under any CGI environment, there are various ways to
provide a CGI environment in Plan 9.
uriel
We can't tell you who uses Plan 9, because it is a secret and they
don't want anyone to learn about their secret competitive advantage.
/sarcasm (But still sadly true.)
uriel
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman
bdhee...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/18/2009 01:02 AM, Gorka Guardiola
of the Internet -- e.g. lack of speed and security
-- service abstraction is the right level of distributedness.
presenting the services as file hierarchy makes sense; 9p is efficient
9p is efficient as long as your latency is 30ms
uriel
and so the plan9 approach still feels like the right
paths.
uriel
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:22 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Fri Apr 17 08:33:12 EDT 2009, urie...@gmail.com wrote:
And then you would need some hideous SQL database.
As ken said: we have persistent objects, they are called files; and
that is what werc uses.
i
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote:
Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
uriel
well
of the real
idea, which is quite neat and interesting. Sort of similar to the
process of going from various (l)unixes to Plan 9.
Peace
uriel
howto, patches and docs welcome ;)
Peace
uriel
respecting Unix user loves.
uriel
agree with Alex that the best is Public Domain, or at
least BSD/MIT/ISC-style license, which is as close as you can get to
Public Domain while retaining copyright.
Peace
uriel
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 04:42:18PM -0400, J.R. Mauro
it is.
Peace
uriel
ends
before it is finished? And in this case it would be another abandoned
dead end.
So far I see many people posing very substantive objections, and
others saying 'it would be nice'
uriel
is the one better tested, in better shape
and a better starting point, but I'm mostly guessing.
uriel
.
uriel
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote:
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
I have thought about that too, but became convinced that POST is more
like create (or more like write on a subdirectory -- hence the original
question
of an Octopus port.
Porting drawterm is a dead end with very little potential of either
learning anything interesting or being useful in the future.
uriel
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Federico G. Benavento
benave...@gmail.com wrote:
My personal belief is that this is a really bad
A 9vx, p9p or inferno cocoa port is a project that seems fairly
reasonable and I think everyone (even those that don't use Macs) can
agree on (and then if somebody wants they can port it to the other
draw users).
uriel
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:50 PM, andrey mirtchovski
mirtchov...@gmail.com
contributions.
uriel
wonder, would it be excessive to double the current
limit? While 8k is quite ample, 16k would be even more so :)
Thanks everyone for all the ideas and suggestions
uriel
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:25 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Tue Mar 17 20:29:50 EDT 2009, urie...@gmail.com
Thanks Geoff for the prompt explanation, but I'm getting the same
results with ifs=() Not sure why, but I'm not sure I understand the
difference between setting ifs to '' and ().
Thanks again
uriel
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:40 AM, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
Setting ifs='' defeats rc's
this small change would be worth
consideration.
I will give it a try when I get a chance, but if it fixes the lost
chars, I'll be happy.
Thanks!
uriel
; diffy -c havefork.c
/n/dump/2009/0317/sys/src/cmd/rc/havefork.c:74,80 - havefork.c:74,80
Xbackq(void)
{
char wd[8193
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