Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-09 Thread erik quanstrom
It's part of the EFI promise: everything they touch will turn to merde :-) optimist! - erik

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-06 Thread Wilhelm B. Kloke
erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Of course, some support form the OS is needed, which excludes Plan9. what is the basis for this claim? references? - erik Does Plan9 support GPT partitions now? The last time I tried Plan9 on a GPT partitioned disk I got my disk severely screwed

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-06 Thread Wilhelm B. Kloke
Francisco J Ballesteros [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: a gpt partitioned disk should have its mbr declaring mostly the disk in use, IIRC, plan 9 fdisk does not screw it up unless you decide to change the partitions in the mbr. On a GPT partitioned disk the mbr has to be ignored, as there is no way

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Of course, some support form the OS is needed, which excludes Plan9. what is the basis for this claim? references? - erik Does Plan9 support GPT partitions now? The last time I tried Plan9 on a GPT partitioned disk I got my disk severely

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-06 Thread erik quanstrom
Yes. A protective mbr is in the specification. Protective means: Not to be used for fiddling. the spec says that the protective mbr should include entries reserving the space used by gpt partitions. thus if you use fdisk to edit such a partition table, you will not harm gpt unless you delete

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Cox
- Using venti for backing up a streaming application is not a good idea. - Contiguous storage areas may be better. So far I agree with you. - One potential method to provide access to contiguous disk space may be a rich partitioning system, e.g. GPT. I can't believe what a terrible idea

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-05 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, is anyone already working on an venti-based storage format which is optimized for streaming ? ah, well, what's this mean? What kind of data rate are you looking at? ron

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-05 Thread erik quanstrom
It's intendet for video streaming. Upload is uncritical, but sequential download should be fast. The venti behind will be clustered, but that's another story ... there's no such thing as sequential in venti. venti is content addressed. - erik

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-05 Thread Russ Cox
VAC eg. is good for archiving, but it's tree-based structure is probably not optimal for streaming (on large files, a lot of blocks IMHO have to be loaded before getting the first payload block can be reached). A typical venti tree has a branching factor of 409 (8192/20). For a 1GB file,