Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread sqweek
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried with both qcow2 and raw; raw takes longer to get to a crash, but still reliably crashes. Strangely, connecting to qemu with gdb before Plan 9 starts reduces the crash rate a lot, but it might just be

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
Everything, in my experience, crashes QEMU. Nice try. Just the opinion of me and my dog (who barks loudly when I shout f**king QEMU - piece of f**king sh*t!). Hey, this is off topic but ... anyone had fun with a Asus EeePC? The excess stock are being sold in Oz and I got a 4G for US$300. Tho

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Rodolfo kix García
I have problems with Qemu too. Qemu hangs booting, hangs after booting, hangs ramdomly, ... with or without venti. I am using now a new PC for Plan9 Everything, in my experience, crashes QEMU. Nice try. Just the opinion of me and my dog (who barks loudly when I shout f**king QEMU - piece of

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Fazlul Shahriar
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I currently use Plan 9 in qemu 0.9.1; whenever I try to do anything I/O demanding such as unpacking a ~100MB tarball, qemu locks up and refuses further connections (via vnc, or gdb for example). I am using fossil

Re: [9fans] Running plan 9 on a Toshiba laptop

2008-06-13 Thread hugo rivera
well, the only thing I could find using Widows Vista was: Intel(R) 82801HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller and FUJITSU MHY2250BH 2008/6/11 Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]: By disk controller I mean the chipset that handles your disk. I believe (I've had problems myself) that

Re: [9fans] Running plan 9 on a Toshiba laptop

2008-06-13 Thread erik quanstrom
well, the only thing I could find using Widows Vista was: Intel(R) 82801HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller and FUJITSU MHY2250BH are you using a very recent cd? if you can copy down any lines that look like these that pop up during the boot process and send them to me offline? #S/sdE:

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Terminal Target

2008-06-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 13 10:14:33 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 280 USD this seemed like a nice Plan 9 terminal or native inferno target. http://www.linutop.com/ Ian i think that's 280 euros — over $400. the infos or miscs didn't include the ethernet chipset or the vga chipset. it's quite

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Bakul Shah
Everything, in my experience, crashes QEMU. Nice try. Just the opinion of me and my dog (who barks loudly when I shout f**king QEMU - piece of f**king sh*t!). I have used qemu/freebsd for the past 4 years or so. On the whole it has worked quite well. I often use plan9, Windows 2000 and

[9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, is there any command line tool for reading and writing files on venti ? The venti/read and venti/write commands just support single blocks. Vac seems fine as archive tool, but it only can store - I need some unvac command. (mounting each single archive via vacfs is a bit too

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
9fs dump command /n/dump//mmdd/absolutepathtofile - year mmdd - month and date On Jun 13, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, is there any command line tool for reading and writing files on venti ? The venti/read and venti/write commands just support single blocks.

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
In fact it is definetly not a plan9 issue... If qemu fails hosting plan 9, it affects plan 9 but there is little to be done unless we communicate with the qemu dev team. Plan 9 is not the only os having problems with DMA access through qemu. I am myself a moron... All I know is that the issue

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread a
Since you mention using vac for storage, I assume you're using venti directly, not via fossil, in which case the '9fs dump' suggestion will do nothing for you. I don't believe there is anything in Plan 9 that does what you want (certainly the BUGS section in venti(1) implies not), but you might

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
the peculiar thing about the modern virtualisers/hypervisors etc is that sorry. i meant to write one peculiar thing ..., because there are others.

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
perhaps qemu-ide specific drivers need to be done. Many hosted OSs need custom made drivers to be used with a virtualizer. i must say that my experience with VM/370 was otherwise, for the standard devices. there were extensions you could access if you liked, but the basic emulation was solid.

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9fs dump command /n/dump//mmdd/absolutepathtofile but this still requires me to mount each single vac archive before reading, and I need to create a new one for each upload, right ? cu --

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread erik quanstrom
the peculiar thing about the modern virtualisers/hypervisors etc is that they require specialised drivers but are no easier (often harder) to drive than actual hardware! it's all gone wrong! but the blinding performance is ... check that. - erik

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Terminal Target

2008-06-13 Thread dave . l
Talking of cheap machines ... Does anyone know anything about the Elonex One? http://elonexone.co.uk/ It's ~USD200. I'm getting a couple anyway for other reasons, but if they could be used to do something 9ish as well, that would be a bonus. I'll start looking at running 9 on it ASAP of

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you mention using vac for storage, I assume you're using venti directly, not via fossil, in which case the '9fs dump' suggestion will do nothing for you. ACK. I don't believe there is anything in Plan 9 that does what you want (certainly

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
FPGA's are getting cheaper. A friend of mine got a nice Spartan III for less than us$50 Clock speeds are still behind the usual ASIC (lack of sleep might alter my grammar habilities), but I think they are ok for things like a java vm, or a nes emulator... Years ago I made a picoJava based

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente FPGA's are getting cheaper. A friend of mine got a nice Spartan III for less than us$50 Clock speeds are still behind the usual ASIC (lack of sleep might alter my grammar habilities), but I think they are ok for things like

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The venti/read and venti/write commands just support single blocks. Vac seems fine as archive tool, but it only can store - I need some unvac command. (mounting each single archive via vacfs is a bit too complicated for my project). I'm hesitant to

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:52:22 EDT erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need this sort of code in a virtualizable processor. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popek_and_Goldberg_virtualization_requiremen ts i'm not convinced that the illusion that the virtualized

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:39:48 EDT erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a T42 running FreeBSD, a stock FreeBSD-4.11/qemu gets 18MB/s plan9/qemu gets 3MB/s. Both tested by writing 100MB from /dev/zero to a file. Neither needs any special drivers. I think part of the performance

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Bruce Ellis
I don't know how the praise of excellent was bestowed on QEMU. It may work well on a x86 emulating an x86 but try something else. It ends in tears. brucee

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how the praise of excellent was bestowed on QEMU. It may work well on a x86 emulating an x86 but try something else. It ends in tears. just like opening up an x86 machine and trying to stick a mips processor